03/09/2017

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:00:00. > :00:00.Hospital bosses have warned the NHS in England may suffer its worst

:00:00. > :00:00.winter in recent history if it doesn't receive an emergency

:00:00. > :00:24.bailout. Welcome to our look ahead to what

:00:25. > :00:29.the papers will be bringing us. My guests today, the Parliamentary

:00:30. > :00:32.journalist Tony grew, and the entertainment journalist, Caroline

:00:33. > :00:37.Frost. Good evening to both of you. We will take on a minute. First, the

:00:38. > :00:40.front pages. The FT writes that Donald Trump has

:00:41. > :00:45.opened the door to military action following the latest nuclear weapons

:00:46. > :00:55.test by North Korea. Same story in the i. The Secretary

:00:56. > :01:01.of State warns of possible annihilation in response.

:01:02. > :01:04.The same story in the Metro, showing a picture of the North Korean leader

:01:05. > :01:08.shortly after the test. The Times says Donald Trump has

:01:09. > :01:12.threatened to sever trade ties with any country that deals with North

:01:13. > :01:16.Korea, including China. The Daily Telegraph says there is

:01:17. > :01:20.growing concern in Europe that Mr Trump is considering unilateral

:01:21. > :01:24.action as the UN Security Council is due to meet tomorrow.

:01:25. > :01:28.The Guardian leading with an unpublished report saying families

:01:29. > :01:32.who have lost loved ones in police custody are being failed by

:01:33. > :01:36.authorities and calls for reform to the system.

:01:37. > :01:41.And finally the Daily Mail, headlines about households who

:01:42. > :01:46.oversaw their bin could face a fine up to ?2500 and a criminal

:01:47. > :01:51.conviction as councils try to push recycling and cut collections.

:01:52. > :01:55.Let's begin, Caroline and Tony, a lot of those front page is dominated

:01:56. > :02:06.by North Korea. We will start there with the i. What did you make of it

:02:07. > :02:13.when you first saw the headline? These pictures remind me of back in

:02:14. > :02:16.the 1970s and 1980s when we use the CDs Russian propaganda shots. The

:02:17. > :02:25.fact North Korea are releasing a picture of their leader, hands on

:02:26. > :02:29.deck. -- when we used to see these Russian propaganda shots. But it is

:02:30. > :02:34.far too real. And Donald Trump asking for an immediate response.

:02:35. > :02:40.It's making me feel nervous. You are nervous? What about you, Tony? I am

:02:41. > :02:44.more concerned about Trump than North Korea. His leadership is a

:02:45. > :02:49.destabilising force. More destabilising than Kim Jong-Un?

:02:50. > :02:58.Towards the end of the Financial Times story from an academic who is

:02:59. > :03:00.an expert in North Korea. They said Kim Jong-Un understands Washington

:03:01. > :03:08.does not have the ability to crank up Russia any further. This is part

:03:09. > :03:11.of the weakness of the US's position internationally. The press secretary

:03:12. > :03:14.to say they have many military options, they don't, they have

:03:15. > :03:20.limited options, it would be massive and overwhelming retaliation.

:03:21. > :03:29.Annihilation is a word being used. President Trump will cut off trade

:03:30. > :03:42.links with China, saying that, it would not be a good move. Let's turn

:03:43. > :03:46.to the subject of what weapons would be in the arsenal. We know that

:03:47. > :03:51.North Korea has nuclear weapons. It's frightening. Let's say this

:03:52. > :03:56.military option goes ahead. You must wonder what type of retaliation Kim

:03:57. > :04:02.Jong-Un would come back with. We don't know, do we? So few go to

:04:03. > :04:06.speak. We don't have the channels with the rest of the world where you

:04:07. > :04:12.have the diplomacy into the open diplomatic channels. Everybody is

:04:13. > :04:16.talking of hopefully back channels. I am hoping that there is a lot of

:04:17. > :04:22.stuff going on that we don't know about. For once I find myself

:04:23. > :04:26.sympathising with Donald Trump because, as Tony said, there is a

:04:27. > :04:30.limit to what he can say. They've backed themselves into a corner

:04:31. > :04:36.effectively. It becomes almost a blink off. Who is going to stand

:04:37. > :04:41.down? It is old school Cold War type stuff. That is what worries me. We

:04:42. > :04:45.have a president of the United States spending his time on Twitter,

:04:46. > :04:51.attacking South Korea, saying your appeasement hasn't worked. When the

:04:52. > :04:55.president said they tweaked like that he does not seem to understand

:04:56. > :05:01.that there are only two options, and that is option two. When you go with

:05:02. > :05:05.appeasement, you have to wonder what North Korea want. All the talk, you

:05:06. > :05:09.have the sanctions, and they are still going ahead. They don't care

:05:10. > :05:12.what people are talking about. It is, we dare you to do something, in

:05:13. > :05:16.the meantime we are on step two macro of the development of our

:05:17. > :05:21.arms. They are making the steps forward in the meantime. The North

:05:22. > :05:24.Korean leader points to what happened to Colonel Gaddafi. The

:05:25. > :05:28.other leaders that have come to an arrangement with the US and stopped

:05:29. > :05:32.their nuclear weapons programme. What happens is regime change. That

:05:33. > :05:36.is his fear. There should always be more room for more talk and more

:05:37. > :05:40.application of sanctions and pressure by people like China, who

:05:41. > :05:45.are the only ones who really have any influence with them. The idea of

:05:46. > :05:50.the president of the US stopping trading with China, it shows how ill

:05:51. > :05:55.suited he is to his role. Makes you wonder if he has seen the numbers.

:05:56. > :06:01.We will stick with the FT. Very quickly. ?50 billion, I don't think

:06:02. > :06:07.so, is David Davis's response to this. This is the Brexit deal. You

:06:08. > :06:10.have done the numbers. I checked what the net contribution is to the

:06:11. > :06:17.EU. Net contribution, not the amount of money we give and get back, as

:06:18. > :06:21.well. When you do the sums, the UK was on course to pay around ?10

:06:22. > :06:26.million per year, for the next four years come into the EU. That already

:06:27. > :06:31.comes to ?42 billion. David Davis thinks we will get away with paying

:06:32. > :06:35.nothing. And this idea that we shouldn't be generous with our EU

:06:36. > :06:39.partners to get to the next stage of negotiations and talk about a trade

:06:40. > :06:46.deal. The UK is the second-largest net contributor to the EU. When we

:06:47. > :06:52.leave it will leave hole in their budget. Who else would be in the top

:06:53. > :06:56.three? It's complicated. France gets a huge amount of money back through

:06:57. > :07:00.things like the common agricultural policy. Germany is the biggest net

:07:01. > :07:06.contributor, as I recall. The point and trying to make is that the UK

:07:07. > :07:09.financial commitments. -- I am trying to make. We should stop

:07:10. > :07:16.talking about money. Stop pretending the UK doesn't have to pay. And

:07:17. > :07:21.there are schemes like Erasmus. I used it. If we want to continue

:07:22. > :07:28.using it we must continue paying for it. And we must support the EU, and

:07:29. > :07:32.the country is not part of the EU that the EU contributes to. We have

:07:33. > :07:37.to make sure we continue doing that so those places are peaceful. I'm

:07:38. > :07:43.not sure many people will be as friendly as you with the numbers.

:07:44. > :07:49.But after we all got absolutely sold on the fabled ?350 million we were

:07:50. > :07:53.going to save. I would suggest that these numbers become important to

:07:54. > :07:57.people suddenly. They were abstract figures before. Just a year ago. Now

:07:58. > :08:03.these numbers are concrete things the government is going to have to

:08:04. > :08:06.justify. Especially as Labour have shifted their position. They

:08:07. > :08:11.signified the day, they were talking about how when the negotiations

:08:12. > :08:14.start kicking off in parliament, questions will be asked, and it'll

:08:15. > :08:19.be along the lines of exactly how much. It must be frustrating for

:08:20. > :08:23.David Davis. He's as part of negotiations is not showing your

:08:24. > :08:27.cards, and people are asking for him to do exactly that. And it is

:08:28. > :08:31.October, the EU Commission? Yes, that's when the leaders come

:08:32. > :08:36.together and discuss what progress has been made so we can then discuss

:08:37. > :08:39.the trade-off. Britain is hoping that the political leaders will be

:08:40. > :08:44.able to talk them round and get some flexibility. The EU can only act in

:08:45. > :08:49.the way the 27 members instruct them to do. I think Britain will have to

:08:50. > :08:54.start paying some money. Then things might move their way. But I am a

:08:55. > :08:55.pessimist. Unlike David Davis who is an optimist.

:08:56. > :09:02.CHUCKLES Let's turn to the times. There is

:09:03. > :09:05.the possibility of a reshuffle in the air, or maybe not? As a

:09:06. > :09:08.political journalist, there were always three stories you could

:09:09. > :09:14.write, leadership challenge, reshuffle, when there will be a

:09:15. > :09:17.general election. We have the takeaway one of those two. You can

:09:18. > :09:26.always write a leadership challenge story and a reshuffle story. Briefed

:09:27. > :09:30.by somebody who as far as I can see is delusional. This is a Prime

:09:31. > :09:36.Minister who lost her government's majority. She saw several of her

:09:37. > :09:40.ministers lose them a seat in the general election. She called it

:09:41. > :09:44.would she didn't need to do it. The idea she will wield the knife

:09:45. > :09:48.against people, I find it bizarre. And also talking about sacking

:09:49. > :09:54.people. One of which is Liam Fox. Two of the leading Brexiteer

:09:55. > :10:06.politicians in your party. Also talk of Jason Reese Hogg getting

:10:07. > :10:12.promoted. To her advisers think that will win her back some votes?

:10:13. > :10:16.Appointing a right wing reactionary politician? That's going to go down

:10:17. > :10:20.well in the marginal seats they need to win back in the north and the

:10:21. > :10:27.Midlands. I find this bizarre. The idea the PM is under the impression

:10:28. > :10:31.she has power, because she doesn't. Some say she may hold off on this.

:10:32. > :10:35.Because of what she said while she was in Japan. I don't know if you

:10:36. > :10:38.picked up on the point, I don't know how closely you have been following

:10:39. > :10:42.this, but Boris Johnson might be moved if this reshuffle did go ahead

:10:43. > :10:48.because Theresa May is losing patients with him. Where you aware

:10:49. > :10:54.those tensions? This comes from the background of Boris Johnson's, what

:10:55. > :10:58.is it, perennial leadership campaign? He has been quiet. He's

:10:59. > :11:03.been overseas. In theory doing his job. But perhaps he is getting his

:11:04. > :11:06.loins and other seductive attack on ten Downing St. It is the way you

:11:07. > :11:10.say it. CHUCKLES

:11:11. > :11:18.Here's a fascinating character. I think he will go for the fluffy vote

:11:19. > :11:22.with Jason Reese Hogg. I think it will be interesting. I'm loving this

:11:23. > :11:30.because every time you open a paper this is a sign of her growing

:11:31. > :11:40.confidence. -- Jason Rees Mogg. It is just who you believe. Coming to

:11:41. > :11:48.the end of silly season. Two more stories to squeeze in. This donor

:11:49. > :11:57.scandal, could you take us through that quickly? In Scotland, and it is

:11:58. > :12:03.about to come in in Scotland, it already takes place in Wales, you

:12:04. > :12:09.are automatically put on the donor list and you have to opt out of it.

:12:10. > :12:13.What do you make of that? I think it is pretty standard. We

:12:14. > :12:19.have thousands of people on a waiting list, waiting for a donor.

:12:20. > :12:24.Many people died last year because they were not able to have an organ

:12:25. > :12:31.transplant operation. And this is on the back of a Private members Bill.

:12:32. > :12:34.That will be coming forward and will change the rules. I am sanguine

:12:35. > :12:40.about it. I don't see the problem with it. It's one of those things

:12:41. > :12:44.were a shift is traumatic for certain people. People with strong

:12:45. > :12:47.religious beliefs or something similar. It's one of those things,

:12:48. > :12:52.had it been in existence for a long period of time nobody would be

:12:53. > :12:57.worried about it. I would applaud a system like this when you have

:12:58. > :12:59.numbers like this. We have had politics, international affairs,

:13:00. > :13:03.health, let's go to a story I think a lot of people were waiting to

:13:04. > :13:15.break. We were all waiting to see these. Trouble in the Rooney

:13:16. > :13:17.household. I don't care. In a shock twist, a famous highly paid

:13:18. > :13:21.footballer has to squeezed himself away from the pitch. It happens to

:13:22. > :13:26.be Wayne Rooney. Could have been another player. What can we tell

:13:27. > :13:30.you? A bit of background, he has a lovely, pretty wife, who is pregnant

:13:31. > :13:34.with her fourth child, who was on holiday last week, while Wayne

:13:35. > :13:42.Rooney celebrated his departure from the bulk of his professional career

:13:43. > :13:45.in style. There is a lady with an open cardigan on the front of the

:13:46. > :13:51.daily Mirror. She must be embarrassed by that. Same story in

:13:52. > :13:56.the sun newspaper. Yes, spread the riches. As my grandmother would say,

:13:57. > :14:02.she'll catch her death in that top! Do you really think it is over? Will

:14:03. > :14:07.we have a split in this famous football coupling? Tony is sitting

:14:08. > :14:13.there thinking about it. What do you think? I don't know much about

:14:14. > :14:19.football or celebrities because I am a political journalist. Did Wayne

:14:20. > :14:26.Rooney tell this journalist? It says it is an exclusive. It is a card he

:14:27. > :14:30.is having to play. He cannot be arrogant about it. He can't be

:14:31. > :14:40.walking around like a peacock. It is a huge trauma for the pregnant

:14:41. > :14:46.Coleen. It just reminds me of Footballers Wives. That popular one.

:14:47. > :14:52.Is it popular? That's not fiction, you know? You get overpaid,

:14:53. > :14:56.sometimes and advised, highly skilled footballers who are

:14:57. > :15:01.absolutely praised and revered for their testosterone fuelled antics on

:15:02. > :15:06.the pitch. You expect them to -- could you expect them to go home,

:15:07. > :15:12.park the car, and walk the dog? Perhaps we all need a wake-up.

:15:13. > :15:16.Thanks very much to you both. We are back at 11:30pm. Hope to see you all

:15:17. > :15:21.then. Don't forget, the front pages are online at the BBC News website.

:15:22. > :15:27.You can read a detailed review of the papers. It is all there for you.

:15:28. > :15:33.You can also see a replay of this programme with each night's edition

:15:34. > :15:40.of the papers posted on that page shortly after we have finished. In

:15:41. > :15:41.the meantime, thanks to James and Caroline. For now, it is Meet