04/09/2017

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:00:16. > :00:19.Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

:00:20. > :00:22.With me are Deborah Haynes, defence editor at The Times

:00:23. > :00:24.and Jack Blanchard, editor of Politico's new Playbook

:00:25. > :00:36.Let's give you a preview of the front pages.

:00:37. > :00:39.The Metro has split its front page, with Kate and Kim

:00:40. > :00:47.Express The Daily Express doesn't muddy the waters in any way and goes

:00:48. > :00:50.all in with Baby number three for Kate and Wills.

:00:51. > :00:58.The main story in the Times focuses on cyber attacks on British

:00:59. > :01:02.universities, with medical and scientific research apparently

:01:03. > :01:09.targeted. The Guardian has an investigation into Azerbaijan's

:01:10. > :01:16.elite operating a secret scheme to pay the Europeans and launder money.

:01:17. > :01:21.The Sun has a twist on that story, claiming that the baby was conceived

:01:22. > :01:24.on their trip to Poland. And the Daily Mail highlighting fears of

:01:25. > :01:27.home-grown terrorism in isolated communities.

:01:28. > :01:44.Let's kick off. Welcome to you both, the Korean crisis and the story that

:01:45. > :01:49.has... Welcome it has been a crisis for so many years, but this one

:01:50. > :01:53.seems to be more dangerous than ever before? Absolutely, almost every day

:01:54. > :01:58.it brings a new escalation of tensions. Today, we have had the US

:01:59. > :02:07.ambassador to the United Nations coming out and using quite blunt

:02:08. > :02:16.language, accusing Kim Jong-un of begging for war. Strong quotes on

:02:17. > :02:20.the front of The Guardian, war is never something the United States

:02:21. > :02:24.wants, we don't want it now but our patients is limited, we will defend

:02:25. > :02:28.our allies and territory. I was meeting with academics who are over

:02:29. > :02:30.the, planning war games, they are going to be doing it at Kings

:02:31. > :02:39.College London yesterday. They have done lots of war games

:02:40. > :02:47.about the North Korea scenario. It comes to an end where all parties

:02:48. > :02:50.involved realise they have a vested interest in maintaining the status

:02:51. > :02:53.quo. While the headlines are terrifying, you wonder if it might

:02:54. > :02:58.eventually be resolved without things going horribly wrong. The

:02:59. > :03:01.only problem is that I bet none of their war games involve Donald Trump

:03:02. > :03:08.being President of the United States. Funny you should say that,

:03:09. > :03:18.the new one does. How does it end? Was interesting, and added

:03:19. > :03:25.dimension. The Times, saying that they are set to launch more missile

:03:26. > :03:29.tests. That will be the task for Donald Trump, if Kim Jong-un keeps

:03:30. > :03:33.upping the ante? I think he will, what stops them from doing it?

:03:34. > :03:37.People say he is crazy, maybe he is, but he has a clear focus, develop

:03:38. > :03:41.nuclear weapons to the point where he feels his regime cannot be

:03:42. > :03:44.touched. So far, people are shouting and screaming each time he does it,

:03:45. > :03:48.but nothing happens. Really, what can people do to stop him? I would

:03:49. > :03:58.expect more missiles to continue to be tested. That is in his interest.

:03:59. > :04:02.Some analysts are saying his motivation is the more scared the

:04:03. > :04:05.rest of the world is of him, the safer he is. He doesn't want to go

:04:06. > :04:11.the way of Saddam Hussein in Iraq or Colonel Gadaffi of Libya. He doesn't

:04:12. > :04:16.want to be deposed and he thinks nukes are a deterrent? He kind of

:04:17. > :04:27.has a point. He apparently looks at videos of Gaddafi's painful demise

:04:28. > :04:31.and sees that... And looks at what happened in Iran, they had a nuclear

:04:32. > :04:38.deal to try to stop that regime from pushing forward with the nuclear

:04:39. > :04:44.programme. Look at the power that such a small country, with such

:04:45. > :04:51.limited resources, that has been a pariah state for so long, and yet it

:04:52. > :04:58.is gripping the most powerful man in the world. It is top of his agenda.

:04:59. > :05:01.He has got a point, unfortunately. You do wonder whether the Trump

:05:02. > :05:05.dimension will actually break the deadlock that we have had to live

:05:06. > :05:09.with so long. Let's look at some of the other stories. The Times have a

:05:10. > :05:17.story about university secrets being stolen by cyber gangs? Looks like

:05:18. > :05:19.the journalists have done freedom of information work, looking at the

:05:20. > :05:22.number of successful cyber attacks on different British universities.

:05:23. > :05:26.They say it has doubled in the past couple of years. I think it is just

:05:27. > :05:31.indicative of the world we are now living in, where so much more crime

:05:32. > :05:33.is just becoming an online issue. The really smart criminals, they are

:05:34. > :05:37.not going around robbing banks any more. They are doing this kind of

:05:38. > :05:43.work. You think of the wealth of information that universities hold,

:05:44. > :05:46.or all sorts of different issues, technology, medical research,

:05:47. > :05:58.anything else, there is a real financial incentive to do that kind

:05:59. > :06:03.of attack. Another university story, this is the head of Oxford

:06:04. > :06:10.University attacking what they call pay lies of ministers? It is quite a

:06:11. > :06:14.long-running story. The various heads of universities being attacked

:06:15. > :06:17.for bringing home massive pay packages at a time when students are

:06:18. > :06:21.buckling under the debt they accumulate going to university. I

:06:22. > :06:25.guess it is like a fightback. The paper also quotes Jo Johnson, the

:06:26. > :06:30.University Minister, well, not quoting him, saying he will announce

:06:31. > :06:35.plans this week to stop the upward ratcheting of salaries by linking

:06:36. > :06:40.pay to performance. It does seem like it is a bit of a spat. What is

:06:41. > :06:44.interesting is that the Government took a pretty big pasting during the

:06:45. > :06:47.general election on tuition fees. It seems to be a big vote winner for

:06:48. > :06:52.Jeremy Corbyn. We might be seeing a pushback from the government,

:06:53. > :06:55.saying, what would the students like to see us doing? One thing we could

:06:56. > :06:58.do is look at these massively overpaid Vice Chancellor is taking

:06:59. > :07:03.him so much money while the students are paying tens of thousands each

:07:04. > :07:09.year. Professor Louise Richardson, who is saying this, from

:07:10. > :07:13.Oxfordshire, is earning three and ?50,000 a year, saying that they

:07:14. > :07:17.don't get much compared to footballers and bankers? Well, which

:07:18. > :07:22.is true. They bring more to society. If that is the bar, people can get

:07:23. > :07:26.paid whatever they want! I'm not trying to support it, but you want

:07:27. > :07:30.to attract talent. If you want to get the best people in, you need to

:07:31. > :07:40.pay them well. The Telegraph, again, just briefly, Britain is losing its

:07:41. > :07:44.religion in the words of the REM song. The proportion of the

:07:45. > :07:47.non-believers is the highest it has ever been? I don't think it will

:07:48. > :07:51.come as a surprise to many people. Britain has been moving in this

:07:52. > :07:54.direction for a long time. It doesn't show any signs of changing.

:07:55. > :07:57.A lot of the most religious people in the UK now are people that have

:07:58. > :08:02.moved here from other countries. It's a rarity to meet very religious

:08:03. > :08:11.people in this country, and it is only going one way, I'm afraid. The

:08:12. > :08:14.Sun have got a story about Theresa May's government wanting the EU to

:08:15. > :08:20.hurry up with the Brexit negotiations. That's quite

:08:21. > :08:23.interesting. The EU are saying, well, Britain was very slow in

:08:24. > :08:27.triggering Article 50 in the first place, and then there was the

:08:28. > :08:32.election that got in the way. It is us that have been dragging our

:08:33. > :08:39.heels, now we are saying it is them? They have taken the story from

:08:40. > :08:44.Politico. We have these negotiations, where they go over,

:08:45. > :08:47.David Davis, for about three days, they have an awkward press

:08:48. > :08:52.conference and then come back and talk among themselves. We are not

:08:53. > :08:56.getting anywhere. Britain has said, let's just stay here and keep

:08:57. > :08:59.talking until we get somewhere. At the moment, it feels like total

:09:00. > :09:04.deadlock. It seems a smart thing to do. Both sides have to agree to it.

:09:05. > :09:09.Time is running short, really. There is not that long to go. There is

:09:10. > :09:12.obviously going to be parliament coming back after the summer

:09:13. > :09:18.holidays tomorrow. They are going to be voting on various... It is the

:09:19. > :09:21.legislation around the withdrawal. It seems like Theresa May is

:09:22. > :09:26.potentially going to be in a rough ride there, according to tomorrow's

:09:27. > :09:33.papers. Can the EU hurry up, that is the headline in the The Sun. The PM

:09:34. > :09:39.demands nonstop Brexit talks? I'm not sure they will be nonstop? I

:09:40. > :09:45.don't think so, the EU does not do weekends or Friday. It is a relaxed

:09:46. > :09:50.pace. Britain has triggered this, and it is Britain faces to lose at

:09:51. > :09:53.the most of it doesn't work. We are the ones under pressure. That is why

:09:54. > :10:03.the push for speed is coming from the UK side. It is us that needs

:10:04. > :10:07.this. Do you think the US EU EU will be amenable? You would hope so, it

:10:08. > :10:13.is in everybody's interests to get it sorted out. Deborah, the big

:10:14. > :10:18.story of the day, Kate's third baby. I was kind of thinking, in these

:10:19. > :10:23.times of great turmoil and huge events, stressful North Korea

:10:24. > :10:28.screaming headlines, it is quite nice to get some happy news, happy,

:10:29. > :10:34.soft, fluffy news about another baby. Before her. I feel sorry for

:10:35. > :10:41.her, having the whole morning sickness. She had that with all

:10:42. > :10:45.three pregnancies. It sounds pretty horrific. I had my third last year.

:10:46. > :10:51.Fortunately, I did not endure the morning sickness, but I did have the

:10:52. > :10:57.sleepless nights afterwards. It is quite a big jump from two to three.

:10:58. > :11:07.Any advice about having three? Just endless patience. Also, the older

:11:08. > :11:13.you get, the harder it is to deal with those. She will probably have

:11:14. > :11:19.more staff than you. A palace full of staff probably eases the pain.

:11:20. > :11:24.Surely want to help your baby. Delighted with the news of the baby?

:11:25. > :11:28.I am completely indifferent. They seem like a nice couple, good for

:11:29. > :11:33.them. I am not sure I would put it on my front page. Would you put this

:11:34. > :11:42.on? Jeremy Corbyn, Tahir and, apparently, with being vegan. --

:11:43. > :11:46.toying with being a vegan. There is a bit on the Telegraph as well. The

:11:47. > :11:54.Times today lovely job. He was addressing an event at Lush. He was

:11:55. > :11:57.talking about how he is eating more and more vegan food. He says it is

:11:58. > :12:02.getting so much better. He went to a house and had a lovely vegan wheel.

:12:03. > :12:10.But he says, I am not going vegan quite yet. I can tell you why. I was

:12:11. > :12:14.speaking to him at Christmas. Do you have Christmas together? Frequently!

:12:15. > :12:19.You started talking about his love of cheese. He is passionate about

:12:20. > :12:23.cheese. He talked endlessly about different cheeses, he talked about

:12:24. > :12:29.smuggling it across borders so he could have his favourite cheese. The

:12:30. > :12:40.story says he is being held back from full vegan by his love of

:12:41. > :12:46.creamy Somerset Brie? Hasn't held back at least four MPs. A revelation

:12:47. > :12:52.in the Times about how there are, at present, four openly vegan MPs, all

:12:53. > :13:00.of them Labour. It makes you wonder how many closet vegans there are. Do

:13:01. > :13:07.you think it is a vote winner? According to the article, and I take

:13:08. > :13:12.all of my information about vegan eating from this article, it seems

:13:13. > :13:19.to be about 500,000 people. But more of a proportion of people are vegan

:13:20. > :13:25.than MPs are. Half a million, that is quite a lot? Maybe this could

:13:26. > :13:27.make the difference. Thank you so much for being with us. I give your

:13:28. > :13:32.time. Thank you for your time. Don't forget you can see the front

:13:33. > :13:35.pages of the papers online It's all there for you -

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:13:39. > :13:42.the programme any evening you can