0:00:16 > 0:00:19Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be
0:00:19 > 0:00:20bringing us tomorrow.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22With me are Stephen Bush, Special Correspondent
0:00:22 > 0:00:24for The New Statesman, and David Wooding, Political Editor
0:00:24 > 0:00:29of the Sun on Sunday.
0:00:29 > 0:00:31Thank you for coming in.
0:00:31 > 0:00:33Tomorrow's front pages, starting with
0:00:33 > 0:00:35The Telegraph says that Theresa May is preparing for her succession
0:00:35 > 0:00:38with the surprise appointment of the former Chief Whip Gavin
0:00:38 > 0:00:46Williamson to Defence Secretary.
0:00:46 > 0:00:50The Times says the appointment leaves the Prime Minister vulnerable
0:00:50 > 0:00:55to a renewed coup for her job. The Guardian also lead to that
0:00:55 > 0:00:58appointment saying the Prime Minister's choice has angered
0:00:58 > 0:01:04backbench Tory MPs. Also focusing on the anger from Tory backbenchers
0:01:04 > 0:01:10that his appointment. This also leads the Metro.
0:01:10 > 0:01:12The FT leads with the rise in interest rates
0:01:12 > 0:01:14signalling that more increases could be on the way.
0:01:14 > 0:01:15The Express says that thousands
0:01:15 > 0:01:17of foreign nationals, who were supposed to be deported
0:01:17 > 0:01:21by the Home Office, are on the run in Britain.
0:01:25 > 0:01:29So it's politics and economics for the next ten minutes. Take is to the
0:01:29 > 0:01:34front of the times. Theresa May under fire in the light of changes
0:01:34 > 0:01:40in defence.Michael Fallon has resigned and she has replaced him
0:01:40 > 0:01:47with Chief Whip Gavin Williamson and this has angered a great number of
0:01:47 > 0:01:53people for the variety of reasons, and I think it's important to really
0:01:53 > 0:01:58get this story, that the role of Defence Secretary is hugely
0:01:58 > 0:02:01important, particularly to Conservatives. If you say to the
0:02:01 > 0:02:06average Labour MP and they want health and education, and defences
0:02:06 > 0:02:10the dream job for a lot of people in the Conservative Party and this man
0:02:10 > 0:02:16has no more held a ministerial post expressed any opinions about
0:02:16 > 0:02:20anything, least of all defence, and so it is particularly galling for
0:02:20 > 0:02:26the Conservative Party to see Gavin Williamson elevated, and adding to
0:02:26 > 0:02:29the problem is that he has been somebody who has are always argued
0:02:29 > 0:02:33things like people having to wait their turn and if you promote too
0:02:33 > 0:02:38many from a young and take it irritates the whole balance, and he
0:02:38 > 0:02:41has effectively skip the queue and it makes people feel they have been
0:02:41 > 0:02:46jerked around, so people are angry with Theresa May of doing this or
0:02:46 > 0:02:51being forced into it.Is this how you see it as well?Ice folk with a
0:02:51 > 0:02:57few people today and that is quite a backlash over this. They feel that
0:02:57 > 0:03:02Gavin Williamson got the job because he asked for it. He was in charge of
0:03:02 > 0:03:07the wet's office and recommended that Michael Fallon goal and now he
0:03:07 > 0:03:12has got the job. With all this talk of MPs behaving in a creepy manner
0:03:12 > 0:03:17towards women, we have got the man with the creepy Crawley, he has a
0:03:17 > 0:03:23pet tarantula which she keeps in the wet's office, and he is moving it
0:03:23 > 0:03:28into the Ministry of Defence. There's a feeling among some MPs
0:03:28 > 0:03:32that the big search is on now to find out who is the author of this
0:03:32 > 0:03:39dirty dossier which names all these MPs for what they have allegedly
0:03:39 > 0:03:43done, and some people are pointing the finger that the wet's office and
0:03:43 > 0:03:49saying that there is no proof, but was he the source for this?Go back
0:03:49 > 0:03:52to what he said a moment ago about the departure of Michael Fallon. How
0:03:52 > 0:04:00is it known that Mr Williamson may have had some influence?As the
0:04:00 > 0:04:03Chief Whip he was allegedly in there when the decision was made that
0:04:03 > 0:04:12Michael had the goal. Some people are seeing Machiavellian views on
0:04:12 > 0:04:17the job at such as politics. Politics to an extent is about
0:04:17 > 0:04:26rewarding loyalty. Is this not an example of that? I do think people
0:04:26 > 0:04:31are seeing agency on Williamson's part. This is a classic Theresa May
0:04:31 > 0:04:35promotion, someone who has worked hard and who she trusts and who is
0:04:35 > 0:04:39not from a private school and we saw that from Karen Bradley and James
0:04:39 > 0:04:44broken shower with Northern Ireland. I remember when people spoke about
0:04:44 > 0:04:48him being the preferred successor rolled all that seems to have died a
0:04:48 > 0:04:51death along with devolved administration in Northern Ireland,
0:04:51 > 0:04:55and he is very much in that model of somebody who is within the inner
0:04:55 > 0:05:01circle and she has awarded him. I think it is a particularly wise move
0:05:01 > 0:05:04for him or her but I think your right to say that some people are
0:05:04 > 0:05:08engaging in this idea that Gavin Williamson is sitting like a James
0:05:08 > 0:05:14Bond villain with this tarantula. I don't think that is what is going
0:05:14 > 0:05:19on.I am glad you mentioned success because the Telegraph has succession
0:05:19 > 0:05:24in the headline. They are basically saying Theresa May has appointed him
0:05:24 > 0:05:34because she would one day like him to succeed?This is fascinating. He
0:05:34 > 0:05:38has moved from the wet job which is completely different from a bloody
0:05:38 > 0:05:42minister stick into eight Cabinet post running his own department
0:05:42 > 0:05:49which is a huge step not having been a junior minister first. But at him
0:05:49 > 0:05:53as the successor has raised some eyebrows. A lot of people thought
0:05:53 > 0:05:57she would bring on the next generation by having a wholesale
0:05:57 > 0:06:01reshuffle landlords of names have been mentioned. Promoted into the
0:06:01 > 0:06:07Cabinet and all she has actually done is to change the Chief Whip. Or
0:06:07 > 0:06:11promote the deputy Chief Whip. And with him into the Ministry of
0:06:11 > 0:06:18Defence. A little bit early to detect but one or two of the rising
0:06:18 > 0:06:22stars, backbenchers waiting to get their first break, are beginning to
0:06:22 > 0:06:27think when will our chance,? If he was moved on now with no reshuffle
0:06:27 > 0:06:32then it could be another year before she does anything?And I think that
0:06:32 > 0:06:35is particularly important in terms of the question whether or not she
0:06:35 > 0:06:40can survive for as long as you'd like. If it looks as though she is
0:06:40 > 0:06:45going to promote had image and she is not going to bring him in, then
0:06:45 > 0:06:49the argument for David Davis as a interim leader or somebody from the
0:06:49 > 0:06:52older generation to aid the regeneration of the Tory party is
0:06:52 > 0:06:57only going to increase. But I think what a lot of people are missing is
0:06:57 > 0:07:01that I don't think she wants to plan for the succession. I think she'd
0:07:01 > 0:07:05like another crack at the electorate. She is doing a good job
0:07:05 > 0:07:12of holding on. The post Theresa May options to look any more appetising
0:07:12 > 0:07:15and that helps. I think they are going to have to properly come for
0:07:15 > 0:07:19her with the long knives it they want article.She will not be
0:07:19 > 0:07:26winkled out easily. Allegations of sexual harassment, Michael Fallon's
0:07:26 > 0:07:29departure falls under that heading to an extent and we now have killed
0:07:29 > 0:07:36and Hopkins. Still on the front of the Telegraph with the Labour Party
0:07:36 > 0:07:41now suspending him following similar allegations.A 27-year-old woman who
0:07:41 > 0:07:49said when she was 24 about Kelvin Hopkins, who was a shadow minister,
0:07:49 > 0:07:54touched in an inappropriate way, sent her text messages and dropped
0:07:54 > 0:07:59himself against an Iraqi political event. She said she complained and
0:07:59 > 0:08:04nothing was done and described it as revolting. He is 76 and she is in
0:08:04 > 0:08:10her 20s. He used the phrase, if I were a few years younger, well if he
0:08:10 > 0:08:17was half a century younger. I must say, we cannot see what Kelvin
0:08:17 > 0:08:24Hopkins's response is.I do not think that is one.This has moved
0:08:24 > 0:08:28back to labour as well because the dirty dossier is all Conservative
0:08:28 > 0:08:35MPs and there is talk of a Labour list flying around. We have had to
0:08:35 > 0:08:39Maxis Labour instances so far. The new MP for Sheffield Hallam Hope
0:08:39 > 0:08:50been suspended for sending abusive online rants. And we had the young
0:08:50 > 0:08:58lady...The really significant thing is this allegation, but the
0:08:58 > 0:09:01significant thing in terms of the politics as it appears according to
0:09:01 > 0:09:06this woman's testimony that she spoke twice to Ed Miliband and to
0:09:06 > 0:09:13the leadership then nothing was done. She spoke to the Jeremy Corbyn
0:09:13 > 0:09:17leadership and nothing was done and he was promoted. The second thing is
0:09:17 > 0:09:23when did the leaders now and why? That is why the Williamson promotion
0:09:23 > 0:09:26is a big mistake. You can have semi-plausible deniability and the
0:09:26 > 0:09:30leader doesn't know but every scandal that comes out on the
0:09:30 > 0:09:34conservative said the question will be asked, what did Gavin Williamson
0:09:34 > 0:09:37now and what did his opposite number now and I think she has gone from
0:09:37 > 0:09:42the Defence Secretary who was implicated in scandal directly to a
0:09:42 > 0:09:45Defence Secretary who will be implicated in the a of scandals
0:09:45 > 0:09:53indirectly. That is good to be the big story. It is not just the abuse
0:09:53 > 0:09:55but the political parties protecting their political interests have
0:09:55 > 0:09:59covered up these allegations which is why Bailey was rightly arguing
0:09:59 > 0:10:07for an independent...David, you are and must see this. You must be
0:10:07 > 0:10:16worried about this?There a fear the corridors of power, MPs worried what
0:10:16 > 0:10:22will be said against them. There are of course MPs on this list who are
0:10:22 > 0:10:25completely innocent. This is the difficulty, particularly with the
0:10:25 > 0:10:29rise of the Internet, things are being posted which are often untrue,
0:10:29 > 0:10:34so quite a lot of work to do to check these things out.I mentioned
0:10:34 > 0:10:37economics as well as politics because interest rates have gone up
0:10:37 > 0:10:45for the first time in a decade. The suggestion that this will be the 1st
0:10:45 > 0:10:52of May be two more interest rate rises.So we had interest rates of
0:10:52 > 0:10:590.2 500 will go up to 0.5 and it will go up to 1%. The argument
0:10:59 > 0:11:02against this is the economy does look quite fragile and growth is not
0:11:02 > 0:11:07great. Inflation, lots of reasons why perhaps the economy cannot be
0:11:07 > 0:11:11even a small rate rise but what the Bank of England believes is that the
0:11:11 > 0:11:15Brexit vote has damaged our potential for growth forever and now
0:11:15 > 0:11:21is the only time to start increasing rates. This very small rise, most
0:11:21 > 0:11:26people won't feel it, but if you are part of that 21% on tracker
0:11:26 > 0:11:31mortgages are not fixed rate, you are more likely not to have
0:11:31 > 0:11:34financially planned that well and although it is quite small with you
0:11:34 > 0:11:39all in one house, if you own ten it is quite a lot of money. You can't
0:11:39 > 0:11:44fairly easily pass that money on quickly through your tenants, so we
0:11:44 > 0:11:47may begin to see more pressure than the buy to let market. Lots of my
0:11:47 > 0:11:51generation would love to see that come unstuck slowly but not
0:11:51 > 0:11:56overnight so we all end up homeless. And equip take on the Times take on
0:11:56 > 0:11:59this because they are talking about bikes heading home owners but
0:11:59 > 0:12:06refusing to help savings.If you are Bora worldview gets hurt, £22 a
0:12:06 > 0:12:11month average rise. If you are as leader, get nothing.Was ever thus,
0:12:11 > 0:12:19to a degree. That is our take, I suspect both anticipating more
0:12:19 > 0:12:26political stories.I think this one will run and run. Crawl and crawl,
0:12:26 > 0:12:32like the tarantula!On that note, thank you very much indeed. That is
0:12:32 > 0:12:35that from the paper is what you can see the front pages of the papers
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0:12:47 > 0:12:49Thank you, Stephen Bush and David Wooding.
0:12:49 > 0:12:54Goodbye.