0:00:00 > 0:00:06That's all the sport for now.
0:00:17 > 0:00:20Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers
0:00:20 > 0:00:23will be bringing us.
0:00:23 > 0:00:25With me are the journalist and broadcaster Shyama Perera and
0:00:25 > 0:00:33The Sunday Times Education Editor, Sian Griffiths.
0:00:33 > 0:00:36Let's look at the front pages.
0:00:36 > 0:00:38The Observer leads on Jeremy Corbyn's calls
0:00:38 > 0:00:40for Boris Johnson to quit, after comments he made
0:00:40 > 0:00:42about a British mother imprisoned in Iran.
0:00:42 > 0:00:45The Sunday Times says 40 Tory MPs have agreed to sign a letter
0:00:46 > 0:00:51of no-confidence in Theresa May.
0:00:51 > 0:00:53The Telegraph leads on plans by the Environment Secretary,
0:00:53 > 0:00:55Michael Gove, for stronger environmental policy
0:00:55 > 0:01:00following Brexit.
0:01:00 > 0:01:03Meanwhile, the Mail on Sunday says Mr Gove and Boris Johnson
0:01:03 > 0:01:07are holding Theresa May to ransom in order to secure a hard-Brexit.
0:01:07 > 0:01:10The Sunday Express says the economy is in for a £3 billion
0:01:10 > 0:01:17windfall after Brexit.
0:01:17 > 0:01:24Let's kick off was the Mail on Sunday story, Boris and Michael Doe
0:01:24 > 0:01:32plot to hijack number ten, Sian. -- Michael Gove.It is spread across
0:01:32 > 0:01:38the pages and the make quite a big deal of it. It is a leaked letter
0:01:38 > 0:01:45written by Michael Gove and Boris Johnson. It basically tells Theresa
0:01:45 > 0:01:50May how she should be running her Cabinet and makes a series of veiled
0:01:50 > 0:01:54threats, according to the Mail on Sunday, and it spells out the
0:01:54 > 0:02:00divisions within Theresa May's cabinet between the hard Brexit
0:02:00 > 0:02:06supporters and those taking a softer approach. They make a series of
0:02:06 > 0:02:09demands an ugly out their hard Brexit manifesto and the criticise
0:02:09 > 0:02:18Philip Hammond for not being sufficiently energetic, as they see
0:02:18 > 0:02:25it, but hard Brexit. It comes at a time when Theresa May's Cabinet is
0:02:25 > 0:02:29in disarray, continuing leadership speculation, she has lost two
0:02:29 > 0:02:33Cabinet ministers with two more under investigation and the
0:02:33 > 0:02:36overwhelming feeling is it is a mess.
0:02:36 > 0:02:41Boris Johnson is one of those a lot of people are saying should be out
0:02:41 > 0:02:44of the Cabinet. That feels like a last-ditch effort
0:02:44 > 0:02:52by Boris Johnson, yet again with Michael Gold alongside, to put his
0:02:52 > 0:02:56mark on the race he seems to have been losing because every single
0:02:56 > 0:03:02time he opens his mouth he puts his own foot in it. They remind me of
0:03:02 > 0:03:06the political equivalent of the Tamworth two. They have broken
0:03:06 > 0:03:11through the fence and running crazily. Of course it was Michael
0:03:11 > 0:03:17Gove who famously stabs Boris Johnson in the back, or the front.
0:03:17 > 0:03:22These two ultimately rub each other the wrong way and do not get on yet
0:03:22 > 0:03:26how all the back together again and yet how prescient, I think, because
0:03:26 > 0:03:31I think it gives us some sense of how this effort to undermine Theresa
0:03:31 > 0:03:36May will go. Apart from anything else, there is nobody ready to jump
0:03:36 > 0:03:42in and take her place and Philip Hammond, when we speak of him having
0:03:42 > 0:03:47insufficient energy, that is just personal because he is just so laid
0:03:47 > 0:03:49back. All of this feels quite personal.
0:03:49 > 0:03:57It is personal but also critical for what kind of Brexit we have.It is,
0:03:57 > 0:04:01and we have the EU withdrawal bill coming through Parliament this week
0:04:01 > 0:04:05and we seem to be completely stuck at the moment with the hard Brexit
0:04:05 > 0:04:09supporters and those wanting a softer option and battling it out,
0:04:09 > 0:04:16unable to move forward and the idea we will not pay will not agree to
0:04:16 > 0:04:20pay the £60 billion bill and move forward with trade talks. The Sunday
0:04:20 > 0:04:25Times, labour are making massive capital, Jeremy Corbyn is writing
0:04:25 > 0:04:31about this and saying if Theresa May cannot govern she should go and make
0:04:31 > 0:04:38way for a Cabinet, a Government that can take Brexit forwards and can
0:04:38 > 0:04:44somehow free up this stock position we seem to have been in for a long
0:04:44 > 0:04:49time. The Sunday Times have Tory turmoil
0:04:49 > 0:04:54as 40 MPs say Theresa May must go. If that is right and there are 40
0:04:54 > 0:04:59MPs who want her out that is reaching a critical mass.
0:04:59 > 0:05:06It is because you only need eight small. -- eight is more to unseat
0:05:06 > 0:05:11her. Coming back to the first story although there are lots of
0:05:11 > 0:05:17detractors, nobody is actually offering to take up the role and one
0:05:17 > 0:05:21wonders by creating this moment of critical mass, what is the party
0:05:21 > 0:05:27doing? It is imploding. Reading it just as a punter, you think, what
0:05:27 > 0:05:34are the hoping to achieve? Theresa May is immovable, all this will do
0:05:34 > 0:05:41is cause a panic which she will take six or seven days to respond to and
0:05:41 > 0:05:46by which time the next crisis within the party and the Brexit
0:05:46 > 0:05:51negotiations. All I feel is this sense of anxiety and tension and
0:05:51 > 0:05:57headless chicken moment. The point of critical mass is when we discover
0:05:57 > 0:06:02the pen is full of headless chickens.
0:06:02 > 0:06:06You have those two wings of the Conservative Party, the remaining
0:06:06 > 0:06:15and leave, with different views of what Brexit should be.And on top of
0:06:15 > 0:06:20that you have all these other things. Boris Johnson and Michael
0:06:20 > 0:06:24Gove writing this letter, but Boris Johnson himself is under immense
0:06:24 > 0:06:29pressure with people calling for him to quit because of the way he
0:06:29 > 0:06:34handled the case of the British mother imprisoned in Iran. It is not
0:06:34 > 0:06:39just you have divisions in the Cabinet, you have a whole lot of
0:06:39 > 0:06:43other things, the sexual harassment allegations also going on. I think
0:06:43 > 0:06:51it must look from Brussels as though our Cabinet is in complete disarray.
0:06:51 > 0:06:56Let's move on, still in the Sunday Times, another of her Cabinet
0:06:56 > 0:07:07ministers in danger, one might say, about his cabinet future, Damien
0:07:07 > 0:07:10Green, effectively the Deputy Prime Minister and according to the Sunday
0:07:10 > 0:07:16Times button's most senior police officer saying he was tall
0:07:16 > 0:07:19pornography was discovered and Damien Green's parliamentary
0:07:19 > 0:07:27computer back in 2008. Boris Johnson and now Damien Green under threat
0:07:27 > 0:07:32perhaps.I cannot work out what is a meaningful about the Damien Green
0:07:32 > 0:07:36story. There was the accusation of some inappropriate texting and now
0:07:36 > 0:07:41the suggestion pornography was found on his office computer but we are
0:07:41 > 0:07:46told it was not illegal pornography so what exactly is being suggested
0:07:46 > 0:07:52here? Did he use his office time to serve things he should not have
0:07:52 > 0:07:58surfed? OK, why is that newsworthy? Or are we saying this implies
0:07:58 > 0:08:02something other Damien Green which I cannot see what it is implying.
0:08:02 > 0:08:09So you think his job is not in danger?I think his job is clearly
0:08:09 > 0:08:13in danger because people are gunning for them but at this stage I do not
0:08:13 > 0:08:21quite understand what he has done. Sian, are you any clearer?That is
0:08:21 > 0:08:25an enquiry into his conduct and this evidence will go forward to that
0:08:25 > 0:08:31enquiry. I think this is significant because we broke the steely -- broke
0:08:31 > 0:08:37the story that extreme pawn had been found on his parliamentary computer
0:08:37 > 0:08:44-- extreme pornography. And now we see Sir Paul Stephenson has found
0:08:44 > 0:08:47extreme pornography was found on these computers.
0:08:47 > 0:08:53The one would willingly admit to having a look at pornography. It is
0:08:53 > 0:08:56something so intensely private and I do not blame him for saying, it
0:08:56 > 0:09:02could not have been me.That is the whole point, who looks at
0:09:02 > 0:09:07pornography in work on a work computer?I suspect at least two
0:09:07 > 0:09:13thirds of all men in offices. And a good number of women. I don't know.
0:09:13 > 0:09:17When we think pornography is the most accessed subject on the
0:09:17 > 0:09:27internet it is probable most offices will have pornography accessed from.
0:09:27 > 0:09:32In most offices I have worked and it is absolutely a disciplinary matter
0:09:32 > 0:09:37if you have looked at pornography on your work computer.We mention the
0:09:37 > 0:09:42Boris Johnson and left his job was under threat. Lots of people have
0:09:42 > 0:09:47been calling for him to go on a very strong words about him from Jeremy
0:09:47 > 0:09:54Corbyn, not just the usual calls for him to resign but saying Boris
0:09:54 > 0:09:59Johnson has undermined our country and put our citizens at risk with
0:09:59 > 0:10:03his incompetence and Colonial throwback views. Pretty tough words
0:10:03 > 0:10:08from Jeremy Corbyn. Absolutely. I worked on this story
0:10:08 > 0:10:22this week and I was shocked, Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe's MP and I
0:10:22 > 0:10:26realised when I spoke to her MP they have been trying to get Boris
0:10:26 > 0:10:30Johnson or someone in the Foreign Office to look at this case for 18
0:10:30 > 0:10:36months. There has been a petition signed by 200 MPs, e-mails, letters,
0:10:36 > 0:10:42visits, they could not even get a visit in the diary, the meeting, and
0:10:42 > 0:10:46Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe's British husband also could not get a meeting
0:10:46 > 0:10:52in the dining with Boris Johnson. This is a British citizen imprisoned
0:10:52 > 0:10:57-- could not get the meeting. This is a British citizen held in
0:10:57 > 0:11:02solitary confinement in Iran and her daughter is also out there. Surely
0:11:02 > 0:11:06we should be protecting citizens abroad and the idea you can have 18
0:11:06 > 0:11:11months ago passed and no one will even look at this case is appalling.
0:11:11 > 0:11:15It may be sometimes the Foreign Office say a softly softly approach
0:11:15 > 0:11:19behind the scenes is better than a public campaign.
0:11:19 > 0:11:23But then you can still engage with the family but as far as I
0:11:23 > 0:11:28understand today that is supposed to be a phone call between Richard
0:11:28 > 0:11:33Ratcliffe and Boris Johnson, the first one for 18 months. She has
0:11:33 > 0:11:38said she has even stopped in the lobby, doorstep him to try and get
0:11:38 > 0:11:46them to at this. She set up a meeting with the Tory MP who also
0:11:46 > 0:11:53has a constituent imprisoned in Iran and that was postponed for two weeks
0:11:53 > 0:11:59and when it finally happened that was when Boris Johnson made that
0:11:59 > 0:12:03terrible mistake in the House of Commons when he said Nazanin
0:12:03 > 0:12:05Zaghari-Ratcliffe was training journalists in Iran.
0:12:05 > 0:12:12Do you think he will go or not?I think he should publicly apologise
0:12:12 > 0:12:16for his mistake, we try it and make it clear it is the British
0:12:16 > 0:12:18Government's official position that Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe be
0:12:18 > 0:12:26released. But that still has not happened. We also do not know
0:12:26 > 0:12:26released. But that still has not happened. We also do not know how
0:12:26 > 0:12:29many other criticisms are being held in Iran.
0:12:29 > 0:12:34Do you think he will go on this?I do not think you well, he is like
0:12:34 > 0:12:41Teflon.-- I do not think he will. On that, Michael Gove has just been
0:12:41 > 0:12:50saying there is no reason she should be held in prison in Iran.
0:12:50 > 0:12:54Let's look at the Observer. Armistice Day and commemoration
0:12:54 > 0:13:01services around the country today. The picture there of younger people
0:13:01 > 0:13:06with the headline, we shall not forget them. It is important the
0:13:06 > 0:13:11young remember as well.It is a telling picture but there is quite a
0:13:11 > 0:13:14lot of news about this this year because the Queen and Prince Philip
0:13:14 > 0:13:19will be watching the ceremony rather than taking part.
0:13:19 > 0:13:24Watching from the balcony. But we will miss her putting her
0:13:24 > 0:13:30wreath on. There was some outrage yesterday because Harry and William
0:13:30 > 0:13:36were rugby matches when the rest of the Royal family were marking the
0:13:36 > 0:13:4011th. It has been interesting because suddenly everything is
0:13:40 > 0:13:46changing. I think the literal changing today is a very serious
0:13:46 > 0:13:49moment. Understandable, it is called, lots
0:13:49 > 0:13:55of standing for the Queen. It says a lot about the changing of
0:13:55 > 0:13:56our establishment. Let's finish off with the Sunday
0:13:56 > 0:14:03Telegraph. How words and phrases are disappearing from the English
0:14:03 > 0:14:10language, as spoken in the UK.It is a very sweet story. It says grade
0:14:10 > 0:14:20adverbs, it gives examples of quite, rather unfairly, are in decline. I
0:14:20 > 0:14:28used, actually, all the time. The study by an expert in linguistics at
0:14:28 > 0:14:35Lancaster University, it shows use of these words are seen as a middle
0:14:35 > 0:14:42or upper class way of speaking. Some of these other words, like
0:14:42 > 0:14:48frightfully, awfully, terribly, they are seen as a bit too posh, perhaps.
0:14:48 > 0:14:54I thought, word we all talk you have to deliver bad news as a sandwich,
0:14:54 > 0:14:57something good, then say something bad and then something good. These
0:14:57 > 0:15:05add to allow us to do that. You've done really well here but I wasn't
0:15:05 > 0:15:10awfully happy with the middle bit. These are what we use all the time
0:15:10 > 0:15:21to deliver bad news. A super-centre Pabst -- super sensitised society,
0:15:21 > 0:15:24like we have no, I am amazed me no longer use these.
0:15:24 > 0:15:30I think the application is because of the American influence, which is
0:15:30 > 0:15:34perhaps simpler with fewer adjectives and fewer adverbs.
0:15:34 > 0:15:39We have a lot of very, very bad, very, very good.
0:15:39 > 0:15:46Is that the Wii English language is going in the UK?I wonder if it is
0:15:46 > 0:15:50due to the effects of texting because if you are texting you would
0:15:50 > 0:15:57not text frightfully, that is too long. And such once up to 14 140
0:15:57 > 0:16:03characters. I would like to see a gendered study on this because I
0:16:03 > 0:16:08suspect women used frightfully and awfully more so than men...
0:16:08 > 0:16:15But they are diplomatic words. They are about creating a moment where
0:16:15 > 0:16:18everybody can be consensual, though I suspect Theresa May has been using
0:16:18 > 0:16:24too many of these words! I suspect all of these stories link up and the
0:16:24 > 0:16:28problem with the bodice is he does not use enough of these which is why
0:16:28 > 0:16:32he messed up over Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe -- the problem
0:16:32 > 0:16:37with Boris Johnson. I would like to see we are
0:16:37 > 0:16:42frightfully, terribly, grateful to both of you for coming in. Thank you
0:16:42 > 0:16:47to Shyama and Sia. We take a look at tomorrow's front pages of the
0:16:47 > 0:16:57evening on BBC News at 10:40pm every evening. Goodbye for now.