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0:00:15 > 0:00:18Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

0:00:18 > 0:00:21bringing us tomorrow.

0:00:21 > 0:00:23With me are the journalist and broadcaster Aasmah Mir,

0:00:23 > 0:00:28and the political commentator and former Tory adviser Jo-Anne Nadler.

0:00:28 > 0:00:32Welcome to you both. Let's have a look at tomorrow's front pages. We

0:00:32 > 0:00:36start with the Financial Times, leading with the situation in

0:00:36 > 0:00:39Zimbabwe, and also with a picture of Richard Ratcliffe who met the

0:00:39 > 0:00:46Foreign Secretary today his wife is -- the man whose wife is imprisoned

0:00:46 > 0:00:49in Iran. And this picture on the Metro of a military vehicle on the

0:00:49 > 0:00:57streets of Harare. The i is another paper reading on Zimbabwe, a picture

0:00:57 > 0:01:05of Robert Mugabe with his wife Grace. The Daily Express claims

0:01:05 > 0:01:10£30,000 could be saved -- 30,000 lives in NHS could be saved between

0:01:10 > 0:01:15now and 2030. The Daily Telegraph leads on the so-called pro-Brexit

0:01:15 > 0:01:19mutineers. And as well as the situation in Zimbabwe, the Times has

0:01:19 > 0:01:24the story about the record high number of EU citizens now working in

0:01:24 > 0:01:30Britain. The guardian again focuses on Zimbabwe but also has a group of

0:01:30 > 0:01:38MPs calling for an investigation into Russia's role in Brexit. The

0:01:38 > 0:01:41daily Mirror running a story on schools begging parents to pay for

0:01:41 > 0:01:45pens and glue. Aasmah, there is only one story on the front pages.

0:01:45 > 0:01:51Everybody gripped by what is going on in Zimbabwe. It sounds like a

0:01:51 > 0:01:56coup, and it looks very much like a coup, but we are not allowed to say

0:01:56 > 0:02:00it is?No, if you look at the front pages we have selected, the tank on

0:02:00 > 0:02:04the front page of the Metro, and very strikingly on the front page of

0:02:04 > 0:02:17the Guardian, a Major General, Sibusiso Moyo, in a uniform, on

0:02:17 > 0:02:21television, but it has essentially become the C that people are not

0:02:21 > 0:02:25allowed to say because with a coup come very many ramifications,

0:02:25 > 0:02:30clearly, the chaos that that could mean, what it could mean for the end

0:02:30 > 0:02:34of Robert Maghaberry, and also what it might mean in terms of membership

0:02:34 > 0:02:38of the African union, because for example...Is this the point,

0:02:38 > 0:02:43because they call it a coup African Union away in?Has to weigh in and

0:02:43 > 0:02:47say stuff, which we know they have been loathe to say. They have been

0:02:47 > 0:02:51great supporters of Robert McCartney over the years, and also in terms of

0:02:51 > 0:02:54Egypt, when they had their coup they were pretty much put it out, so that

0:02:54 > 0:02:58will have a lot to do with the fact of why they haven't said that as a

0:02:58 > 0:03:07coup.Large focus, Jo-Anne on Grace, Grace Mugabe, who a lot of the

0:03:07 > 0:03:15papers are referring to as Gucci Grace.Indeed, and we are hearing a

0:03:15 > 0:03:19lot about the personality of the young wife of Robert Mugabe and she

0:03:19 > 0:03:22seems to have been instrumental in what has happened there. The concern

0:03:22 > 0:03:26of other members of the top of the government that she might miniver

0:03:26 > 0:03:30herself into a situation of taking over from her husband at his death,

0:03:30 > 0:03:33it seems to have been what has precipitated the events of the last

0:03:33 > 0:03:39couple of days, and obviously there is some coloured pieces, and some of

0:03:39 > 0:03:45the papers, about her and her high spending proclivities, and equally

0:03:45 > 0:03:48of Mugabe's sons and rather vulgar pictures they have been taking of

0:03:48 > 0:03:51themselves in nightclubs and the sort of thing.You were saying to me

0:03:51 > 0:03:57outside when you read the papers, look at the front pages, you get the

0:03:57 > 0:04:02sense what they are really trying to do here, the army, and Mnangagwa,

0:04:02 > 0:04:05the vice president, is heal the rift within their own party. It has not

0:04:05 > 0:04:10been brought about by conditions in the country?This is the irony.

0:04:10 > 0:04:13People in Zimbabwe have been suffering for many years now, and as

0:04:13 > 0:04:18we see on the front page of the Financial Times, charts showing the

0:04:18 > 0:04:24absolutely horrendous condition of the economy there, the crisis in

0:04:24 > 0:04:27agriculture, the runaway inflation etc, we have been hearing about that

0:04:27 > 0:04:30for years, and yet the whole situation does not seem to have been

0:04:30 > 0:04:35brought about by a revolt of ordinary people, because they have

0:04:35 > 0:04:40not been in a position to do that, but it is the fallout of

0:04:40 > 0:04:44machinations right at the top.Yes. The Daily Telegraph had an

0:04:44 > 0:04:50interesting piece. She has gone back to Zimbabwe on her Zimbabwean

0:04:50 > 0:04:53passport, and there is a scholar in here. We don't often speak about

0:04:53 > 0:04:57life in Harare and how bad it has got, but what strikes you, Aasmah,

0:04:57 > 0:05:02about what it is like in Harare at the moment?I think it is very much

0:05:02 > 0:05:06a case of there is still a little bit of support for Robert Mugabe,

0:05:06 > 0:05:13the die-hard loyalist people who believe that he very much fights for

0:05:13 > 0:05:16African people, has done over the last 40 years, then there are also

0:05:16 > 0:05:19people who don't want to dare to dream, who say they can't believe

0:05:19 > 0:05:23this day has finally come, and because again no one is calling it a

0:05:23 > 0:05:26coup, they still don't want to believe, and they would believe it

0:05:26 > 0:05:30until they actually see it, until they see a new leader in the

0:05:30 > 0:05:33presidential mansion. I think it is very much that sense that comes

0:05:33 > 0:05:37through of just being on the edge of something historic, but not quite

0:05:37 > 0:05:44there yet.It is the money as well, though, the fact there is none, none

0:05:44 > 0:05:49on the banks?Exactly, and Mnangagwa has been making noises, outward

0:05:49 > 0:05:54noises, about bringing in foreign capital, and trying to rebuild the

0:05:54 > 0:05:58economy in a way perhaps that Mugabe himself and his direct followers

0:05:58 > 0:06:06would not have had any truck with, because obviously he is a Marxist.

0:06:06 > 0:06:11Really, I mean, this story, we have been at this point, looking at the

0:06:11 > 0:06:15fall of dictators across so many countries over the last 20-30 years,

0:06:15 > 0:06:19and there is always this intense feeling of enthusiasm and excitement

0:06:19 > 0:06:22at the moment that appears to be happening, then so often

0:06:22 > 0:06:28unfortunately something else rushes in to fill the vacuum and we can...

0:06:28 > 0:06:33The Zimbabwean Spring. We will see. Just before we moved off Micah

0:06:33 > 0:06:36Telegraph, a story you, Jo-Anne, would have been interested in the

0:06:36 > 0:06:42day. -- move off the Telegraph. A story of the rebels, the mutineers,

0:06:42 > 0:06:46as we tell them, a lot of criticism in that front page. Theresa May you

0:06:46 > 0:06:50think came out in the right sort of way today?I think the Conservative

0:06:50 > 0:06:55Party has handled the story on the front page of the day's Telegraph

0:06:55 > 0:06:59very effectively actually. They have closed on the story by really

0:06:59 > 0:07:04saying, we encourage people to make sensible amendments to bills, and

0:07:04 > 0:07:10this is all part of that process, and indeed the 15 so-called

0:07:10 > 0:07:14mutineers pretty much took that line themselves and ministers involved

0:07:14 > 0:07:19with the discussions are around the bill also took that line, so this

0:07:19 > 0:07:25idea, rightly or wrongly, whether the Telegraph was trying to foment

0:07:25 > 0:07:30some further aggression, well, not aggression but falling out within

0:07:30 > 0:07:33sectors of the Conservative Party, it doesn't seem to have worked.But

0:07:33 > 0:07:39on that point we have heard on social media, some of these 15

0:07:39 > 0:07:42people, one or perhaps more, have had death threats, which I have to

0:07:42 > 0:07:46say is very sad and does not surprise me at all, Drew doesn't.

0:07:46 > 0:07:50Which is why the newspapers need to be more careful, Twitter and social

0:07:50 > 0:07:54media -- it really doesn't. Let's talk about the Financial Times, and

0:07:54 > 0:08:01about Scotland because Scotland has brought in this regulation today

0:08:01 > 0:08:06about alcohol prices. Tell us about it.This legislation was actual

0:08:06 > 0:08:09brought up many years ago, but it has been caught up in many legal

0:08:09 > 0:08:13challenges and it is the UK Supreme Court to have finally given it the

0:08:13 > 0:08:17go-ahead today because the Scotch Whisky Association had said, Norma,

0:08:17 > 0:08:20we don't want minimum alcohol pricing, clearly, because it would

0:08:20 > 0:08:25affect their margins. We are talking about... The clue is in the name,

0:08:25 > 0:08:29and minimum price, you can't go below that so obviously prices would

0:08:29 > 0:08:35then go up what the Government hopes, that clearly it would become

0:08:35 > 0:08:39too expensive for some people and they would stop drinking and the

0:08:39 > 0:08:43particular problem would be reduced. There have been other arguments that

0:08:43 > 0:08:47for example taxing it might be more effective, but the UK Supreme Court

0:08:47 > 0:08:51has said, Norma, we think the most effective way of sorting this

0:08:51 > 0:08:56problem is going to be a minimum price -- has said, no. It could be

0:08:56 > 0:09:00at this point round about 50p per unit. A fantastic day for the SNP.

0:09:00 > 0:09:08Yet another piece of legislation, you know, that they would say that

0:09:08 > 0:09:10they are leading the way on, something that doesn't exist

0:09:10 > 0:09:13anywhere else in the UK.Something the UK would follow?Anywhere else

0:09:13 > 0:09:17in the world, I believe. Canada and Russia apparently have someform of

0:09:17 > 0:09:21minimum pricing on alcohol, which I didn't know until I read that.Let's

0:09:21 > 0:09:27move onto Boris and Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe. He has been

0:09:27 > 0:09:35meeting her husband Richard Ratcliffe today. Interesting, about

0:09:35 > 0:09:40the deal that might be on the table to bring her home?That's right. We

0:09:40 > 0:09:45haven't heard very much about this but Mr Ratcliffe is saying in the

0:09:45 > 0:09:48Expressed that he feels his wife is being used as a bargaining chip by

0:09:48 > 0:09:54Iran to force Britain to pay I think it is £400 million, which was agreed

0:09:54 > 0:10:01in an arms deal before the Iranians revolution in 1979. Obviously with

0:10:01 > 0:10:07the revolution that deal went on hold, as it were, and he is arguing

0:10:07 > 0:10:11that his wife...Frozen, sitting in a bank, while the sanctions were in

0:10:11 > 0:10:15place?Indeed, in his argument is that his wife has very unfortunately

0:10:15 > 0:10:20been caught up and is now is being used as a pawn to try to force the

0:10:20 > 0:10:25UK's hand to release this money to Iran Aasmah.It is interesting, we

0:10:25 > 0:10:29don't pay terrorist groups but we are prepared to pay governments that

0:10:29 > 0:10:34hold people hostage?Nobody is saying we are prepared to do it but

0:10:34 > 0:10:37that now seems to be an element in the diplomatic...But the Americans

0:10:37 > 0:10:39have done it. They don't pay terrorist groups but they did pay

0:10:39 > 0:10:43money that was frozen in the bank for Americans held in Iran? What's

0:10:43 > 0:10:51the difference?Discuss! You could say there is no difference, but a

0:10:51 > 0:10:55lot of people who are very sympathetic for Nazanin

0:10:55 > 0:10:58Zaghari-Ratcliffe, they would that is what it takes, after the awful

0:10:58 > 0:11:06mess we got into over a misguided remarks, then so be it.I think the

0:11:06 > 0:11:09British Government does everyday money has to go back, that it is

0:11:09 > 0:11:13their money.But it would be very unfortunate if it were seen to have

0:11:13 > 0:11:19been triggered by this particular incident.That is the point. The

0:11:19 > 0:11:23court ruled the money was theirs, but it is about how it is given

0:11:23 > 0:11:27back...It is interesting because it does begin to shed light on exactly

0:11:27 > 0:11:31how complex this is as a diplomatic negotiation, regardless of whether

0:11:31 > 0:11:34ministers have said clumsy things or whatever, there are many more layers

0:11:34 > 0:11:37of this under the surface that we have yet to find out about.Yes.

0:11:37 > 0:11:42Let's look at the story on the times. Record number of EU workers

0:11:42 > 0:11:46in Britain, despite Brexit. I thought they were all supposed to be

0:11:46 > 0:11:49going home because they didn't want to be in Brexit Britain.Absolutely.

0:11:49 > 0:11:56I think there was either about to be a documentary about crops lie and

0:11:56 > 0:12:01wasted in the fields because no one wants to do the work that the EU

0:12:01 > 0:12:04workers previously dead, that they have gone or were about to go, and

0:12:04 > 0:12:08allegedly no British workers want to do that -- workers previously did.

0:12:08 > 0:12:12But these figures would suggest that is not the case. It is all about the

0:12:12 > 0:12:16particular timescale we are speaking about here, isn't it? 2.37 million

0:12:16 > 0:12:23migrants from the U the EU states employed between July and December.

0:12:23 > 0:12:27Compared with the same period last year -- from that year. What will

0:12:27 > 0:12:30the next set of figures say? This is perhaps not something that will

0:12:30 > 0:12:33happen straightaway and the repercussions will happen perhaps in

0:12:33 > 0:12:37the next set of figures, but at this point, no, they don't seem to have

0:12:37 > 0:12:42left yet.You have a nine-year-old. Do you send them to school with glue

0:12:42 > 0:12:46and p?I thought you were going to say, do you send them to school

0:12:46 > 0:12:49with... LAUGHTER

0:12:49 > 0:12:54-- glue and pens. The front page of the Mirror. Schools making parents

0:12:54 > 0:12:58pay for pens and go. TheI suspect this is a chance for the daily

0:12:58 > 0:13:02Mirror to have go at Theresa May.If they are short of money, that is one

0:13:02 > 0:13:09thing, but who makes parents pay for pens and glue? I know I do...I

0:13:09 > 0:13:13don't think that is unusual. If the Mirror really wanted to embarrass

0:13:13 > 0:13:17the Prime Minister then I'm sure there would be more fundamental

0:13:17 > 0:13:23elements of the school requirements that perhaps periods are being

0:13:23 > 0:13:31prepared to pay for now.I'm asking. Are their parents at some schools,

0:13:31 > 0:13:35poorer parents, who get help with this, and should be? This is a

0:13:35 > 0:13:41school in Berkshire.£90 a year for each child to buy basic items like

0:13:41 > 0:13:47books, glue and pens. Again I am not dogma my daughter is not quite at

0:13:47 > 0:13:50that age I'm deferring to both of you who have school aged children.

0:13:50 > 0:13:54Would you be expected to buy books and glue? Pens and pencils, yes, but

0:13:54 > 0:14:02books and glue?Let's not get hung up on glue, per se, but I think it

0:14:02 > 0:14:06can become more contentious. Absolutely.If you're able to it is

0:14:06 > 0:14:08great to buy your children books, but if it is an expectation on

0:14:08 > 0:14:11parents who has not previously been before, that would be where the

0:14:11 > 0:14:16story might be.Just very quickly, the Telegraph has a story that

0:14:16 > 0:14:20Google wants the US Government to ban foreign governments from posting

0:14:20 > 0:14:24election adverts. We have heard lots more from Google and Facebook

0:14:24 > 0:14:28recently that there were more, you know, for an ad is being paid for,

0:14:28 > 0:14:33and now they want to get to grips with it.Yes, well, it seems it is

0:14:33 > 0:14:37about time they did. The question is, it seems to me, not

0:14:37 > 0:14:39understanding a great deal necessarily about the technology of

0:14:39 > 0:14:45it, how can you ensure that that doesn't... I mean the Internet is

0:14:45 > 0:14:49global, and if you badly for foreign add any particular jurisdiction, how

0:14:49 > 0:14:53could you ensure it was not seen elsewhere? On the same platform? I

0:14:53 > 0:15:00would need to hear a bit more about how that was going to work.Able to

0:15:00 > 0:15:03police themselves. We are out of time. Thank you both for your

0:15:03 > 0:15:06company. That is almost it for the Papers tonight. There are papers

0:15:06 > 0:15:09that have since come in. The Daily Mail splash with a warning from

0:15:09 > 0:15:20Probert -- Brexit Tories, don't betray your voters. And the Son, BBC

0:15:20 > 0:15:28staff sleeping at their desk. Really? -- the Sun. Anyway, we are

0:15:28 > 0:15:38very much a week! Thanks very much for watching.