18/11/2017

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0:00:00 > 0:00:05He takes over from Kezia Dugdale.

0:00:16 > 0:00:19Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

0:00:19 > 0:00:21bringing us tomorrow.

0:00:21 > 0:00:25With me the broadcaster and former Fleet Street editor,

0:00:25 > 0:00:32Eve Pollard and the journalist, Yasmin Alibhai-Brown.

0:00:32 > 0:00:38Welcome to you both. Let's take a look at tomorrow's front pages.

0:00:38 > 0:00:41The Observer leads on the situation in Zimbabwe, with a picture of one

0:00:41 > 0:00:43of the anti-Mugabe demonstrators that have been out

0:00:43 > 0:00:44on the streets of Harare.

0:00:44 > 0:00:46The Mail on Sunday reports on an apparent altercation

0:00:46 > 0:00:48between two Labour MPs in the Commons chamber.

0:00:48 > 0:00:50The Sunday Express claims that in Wednesday's budget the Chancellor

0:00:50 > 0:00:53will announce support for Britain's tech industries that could mean

0:00:53 > 0:00:58we'll have driverless cars on our roads by 2021.

0:00:58 > 0:01:00The Sunday Telegraph also leads on a pre-budget announcement,

0:01:00 > 0:01:10this time reporting that nurses are in line for a pay rise.

0:01:10 > 0:01:17Well now, where shall we start? The Observer, shall we do them first? Ya

0:01:17 > 0:01:23's men, it is about Robert Mugabe, extraordinary scenes in Zimbabwe

0:01:23 > 0:01:32will stop -- Yasmin.It is an extraordinary story. The Army has

0:01:32 > 0:01:37not behaved as army is usually do. They have been respective of the old

0:01:37 > 0:01:42man. I was in Uganda when the EDI main coup happened and I can tell

0:01:42 > 0:01:51you that armies behave shockingly when coups happen. -- Idi Amin. Now

0:01:51 > 0:01:56it seems that people are coming out. They were quite scared in the

0:01:56 > 0:02:04beginning or disbelieving. Now even the army people and Zanu people are

0:02:04 > 0:02:09saying...That is the party.He has ruled over them. He has been

0:02:09 > 0:02:13shocking at times. I think he will have to go but he could have done it

0:02:13 > 0:02:20differently. He could have left with grace. He has a lot of money.With

0:02:20 > 0:02:30Grace or with his wife?Good point. Design extraordinary situation.It

0:02:30 > 0:02:35is heartening, if you're going to topple a dictator which he was, this

0:02:35 > 0:02:42is a civilised way of doing it. Today he handed out things at a

0:02:42 > 0:02:45university. He went out specially. He is 93. They are showing him a bit

0:02:45 > 0:02:53of respect. But you'd think is only every other country which was run by

0:02:53 > 0:03:03a code to...But it ain't over. The person who was selected was his

0:03:03 > 0:03:10first choice.This is a man with the nickname the crocodile. A long-time

0:03:10 > 0:03:15associate of Robert Mugabe involved with most things...One thing which

0:03:15 > 0:03:19it is important to remember, and I read a column about this, we do need

0:03:19 > 0:03:25to remember what he was like in the early days. He was a hero, a

0:03:25 > 0:03:32liberationist hero. He was put into prison for ten years.He got a

0:03:32 > 0:03:37degree when he was in prison.His baby boy died then. The radiation

0:03:37 > 0:03:44authorities and our government would not let him go to the funeral -- the

0:03:44 > 0:03:47Rhodesian authorities. Then he turned into this person who was

0:03:47 > 0:03:54dictatorial and thought the country belonged to him.He did.It is the

0:03:54 > 0:04:01end of an era. Let's go domestic. Eve, the Sunday Telegraph, looking

0:04:01 > 0:04:07ahead to the budget. Philip Hammond's in trade must be enormous.

0:04:07 > 0:04:13They are talking about a pay boost for nurses?Quite a lot of his

0:04:13 > 0:04:18intraday is coming from his own team and this is actually, apparently he

0:04:18 > 0:04:24is going to give a boost to nurses and probably to schools, but what is

0:04:24 > 0:04:30interesting is that I've four years and others have said this, the NHS

0:04:30 > 0:04:35is not -- should not be a political football, it is much too serious. It

0:04:35 > 0:04:41should have a Royal commission. We are paying managers a fortune. We

0:04:41 > 0:04:46are paying agencies a fortune to get nurses. We don't have nurses homes.

0:04:46 > 0:04:51How can you afford to live in London if you are in a? I can remember the

0:04:51 > 0:05:00time, my parents had a friend who was a nurse, lived in a nurses home.

0:05:00 > 0:05:03But the reason it is always going to be in politics is because taxpayers

0:05:03 > 0:05:07pay for it so it is bound to be a political football.But in France

0:05:07 > 0:05:14they paid for the health service and it is not a football.As you have

0:05:14 > 0:05:20said, they want the teachers, they want the cap removed. State schools

0:05:20 > 0:05:26are in a terrible state. And then there are the people who want a

0:05:26 > 0:05:30Brexit whatever it is called, war chest, because it is going to cost.

0:05:30 > 0:05:35I don't know how he's going to do all of this because he is a sensible

0:05:35 > 0:05:40man.He is a sensible man who has built up a good business of his own.

0:05:40 > 0:05:44The curious thing about Brexit is it seems like a very bad divorce.

0:05:44 > 0:05:54Somebody has taken the money and Somerby has taken the house and they

0:05:54 > 0:05:58say only when you give me the money and the house I will tell you when

0:05:58 > 0:06:01you can see the children.I wish we had got a mediator and not got a

0:06:01 > 0:06:03divorce!Nobody told us we would have to give billions. I don't know

0:06:03 > 0:06:08why.We seem to have strayed from the NHS to Brexit. I know there are

0:06:08 > 0:06:12links. There is a lot of detail in this story. There are quite a few

0:06:12 > 0:06:18other things in there as well.They are talking about tech because the

0:06:18 > 0:06:24driverless cars which of course journalists are fascinated by,

0:06:24 > 0:06:27because most of them are in a state where they would like to have

0:06:27 > 0:06:34driverless cars and not want to drive themselves when they have had

0:06:34 > 0:06:38a drink or two.That is a rather sweeping statement!It is. They will

0:06:38 > 0:06:44probably tell us we cannot drive them anyway. I would love it, I

0:06:44 > 0:06:48could talk on the phone and put on make-up it would be fantastic.In

0:06:48 > 0:06:53the idea of this thing in your house which you speak to and it does

0:06:53 > 0:07:00things, oh no!Hang on, we have strayed again. Get back to this

0:07:00 > 0:07:03story in the Sunday Telegraph.In previous budgets we more or less

0:07:03 > 0:07:09knew all about the budget by now. This one is happening this week and

0:07:09 > 0:07:15we are still making guesses as to what Philip Hammond will do.

0:07:15 > 0:07:22Housing.No money really. He has got to loosen austerity.The point about

0:07:22 > 0:07:28all these stories, it is not just about what will the Chancellor do,

0:07:28 > 0:07:34will he put a penny on tax here or there, he has a political battle to

0:07:34 > 0:07:42fight, Yasmin? Brexit is on his mind but he wants to stop young people

0:07:42 > 0:07:48voting Labour.It is a political agenda because the Tory party is

0:07:48 > 0:07:53losing support. But he himself is in a lot of trouble because of this

0:07:53 > 0:07:59Brexit think tearing his own party up. I would not want to be Philip

0:07:59 > 0:08:04Hammond.No one talks about Brexit caring the Labour Party apart.They

0:08:04 > 0:08:09are not in power so they did have to do the budget.They don't count. It

0:08:09 > 0:08:17will mean a big change for him. Let's go back to this business of

0:08:17 > 0:08:20driverless cars because the Sunday Express is saying driverless cars by

0:08:20 > 0:08:262021. Where do they get that 2021 from?I don't know. According to the

0:08:26 > 0:08:32Sunday express, it very confidently said driverless cars will be on the

0:08:32 > 0:08:39roads in three years as part of a multi-million pound plan, as part of

0:08:39 > 0:08:44the technological revolution. I don't know if these are placed

0:08:44 > 0:08:50stories, prebudget placed stories or mad thinking.For a start, you would

0:08:50 > 0:08:56have to flatten half our roads which have eternal bumps. 2021 is much to

0:08:56 > 0:09:11year. And Kessler are still busy getting out there driverless cars --

0:09:11 > 0:09:17Tesla. I love the idea of them. You can do your washing and make up!We

0:09:17 > 0:09:22seem to have gone round in a circle again! The point is, I have to

0:09:22 > 0:09:25confess, I have a motorcar now which I have learned to be cautious with

0:09:25 > 0:09:33it, because if it thinks there is another car getting in the way the

0:09:33 > 0:09:36brakes come on. We are not too far away from the time when cars are

0:09:36 > 0:09:47automatic.It is very soon. The human still has two count. The have

0:09:47 > 0:09:52been some incidents where they have started testing these things. The

0:09:52 > 0:09:57human instinct is a very important one.Are they going to be running on

0:09:57 > 0:10:00electricity? How will we make enough electricity and will we have enough

0:10:00 > 0:10:07place to plug your car in?We have any got the front page of the Sunday

0:10:07 > 0:10:10Express, but it does say Philip Hammond is a Houdini of politics if

0:10:10 > 0:10:17he gets all this right, he is expected to spend money developing

0:10:17 > 0:10:20artificial intelligence.Europeans are doing this, the Americans are

0:10:20 > 0:10:25doing this, the one way we will survive if we sadly do have to stave

0:10:25 > 0:10:31off on our own is being as fit and as good as them at business so we

0:10:31 > 0:10:36will have to make stuff. There is no doubt we need money put into it.I

0:10:36 > 0:10:40think I would prefer money to be put into more essential services than a

0:10:40 > 0:10:45driverless car. We don't need it. This might lead us back to the

0:10:45 > 0:10:54Observer again. They have a story on the front page, 1000 nurseries shut

0:10:54 > 0:10:59as childcare crisis mounts. What is this about?This is about how many

0:10:59 > 0:11:03nurseries, many of them outstanding, have closed over the last year. The

0:11:03 > 0:11:09Tories did promise, if you remember, 30 hours for people earning less

0:11:09 > 0:11:13than £100,000 a year, 30 hours of free childcare. That is terribly

0:11:13 > 0:11:16important because when you and I were working, childcare was not so

0:11:16 > 0:11:23expensive, but now it has become a very expensive.This will help the

0:11:23 > 0:11:31middle classes, £100,000 is beyond the imagination.But it means if you

0:11:31 > 0:11:34are less than that if you are a woman you can have a part-time job.

0:11:34 > 0:11:38The truth about this as they are going bust these places, because

0:11:38 > 0:11:42their rates have gone up, because their rents have gone up. What

0:11:42 > 0:11:46should have happened if everybody should have looked at schools around

0:11:46 > 0:11:50the country and said, can we build a class on. It would be easier if

0:11:50 > 0:11:55parents were taking little ones and bigger ones to the same place. Can

0:11:55 > 0:12:07we make space somewhere on the

0:12:12 > 0:12:14facilities. The playground may not be as big. Then they would not have

0:12:14 > 0:12:17to pay rent and all the rest of it. Talking about a radical approach to

0:12:17 > 0:12:20childcare?It is also about how much childcare workers are paid. We are

0:12:20 > 0:12:22going to have to start thinking more seriously about means tested

0:12:22 > 0:12:24benefits. People that can afford it pay for their own childcare and

0:12:24 > 0:12:29people who can't and need to go out to work need to be better

0:12:29 > 0:12:34subsidised. This 100,000 cap, I never agreed with it. But also what

0:12:34 > 0:12:38I am astonished by, it says the preschool learning Alliance say

0:12:38 > 0:12:45local authorities typically pay nurseries and childminders for

0:12:45 > 0:13:00pounds 27 hour. -- £4.27.The other thing is I bet you if you or I

0:13:00 > 0:13:05volunteered to be teachers and we would both be bloody good, in a

0:13:05 > 0:13:10nursery for a day a week, they would... The trouble with means

0:13:10 > 0:13:16testing if it costs more to means test than to pay people out almost.

0:13:16 > 0:13:22I know why it was a universal benefit, lots of these universal

0:13:22 > 0:13:26benefits have been good since the end of the war, but we cannot afford

0:13:26 > 0:13:31for middle classes to be getting the amount of money out of the state,

0:13:31 > 0:13:36including me.Very quickly, one last one, the Sunday Telegraph front

0:13:36 > 0:13:42page, a picture of a smiling couple 70 years married. What do you think?

0:13:42 > 0:13:47Ask her, she is a royalist! I am not!I think the Queen has done a

0:13:47 > 0:13:56brilliant job. One of the brilliant jobs is she and the Duke of

0:13:56 > 0:13:58Edinburgh have stayed married for 17 years.That is an achievement. But

0:13:58 > 0:14:05lots of other couples do.Not as many as they used to.That

0:14:05 > 0:14:11generation.Will see of the next generation can keep it up.They

0:14:11 > 0:14:16can't, they went!Thank you very much. -- they won't.

0:14:16 > 0:14:18That's it for The Papers this hour.

0:14:18 > 0:14:21Thank you Eve and Yasmin - you'll both be back at 11.30

0:14:21 > 0:14:23for another look at the stories making the news tomorrow.