04/12/2017

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0:00:15 > 0:00:19Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

0:00:19 > 0:00:22bringing us tomorrow.

0:00:22 > 0:00:24With me are Asa Bennett, Brexit Editor at the Telegraph,

0:00:24 > 0:00:28and Polly Curtis, editor in chief at Huff Post UK.

0:00:28 > 0:00:30We are joined from Dublin by Pat Leahy, political

0:00:30 > 0:00:31editor of The Irish Times.

0:00:31 > 0:00:39Tomorrow's front pages.

0:00:39 > 0:00:43The i reports that Brexit was a done deal before the DUP said "no".

0:00:43 > 0:00:46The FT runs with a similar line, saying the deal fell

0:00:46 > 0:00:54apart at the 11th hour, amid DUP objections.

0:00:54 > 0:00:56The Telegraph describes Theresa May's push as ending "in chaos".

0:00:56 > 0:00:59The Times says May is fighting on for a Brexit deal after what it

0:00:59 > 0:01:03describes as the "DUP veto".

0:01:03 > 0:01:09The Guardian says the DUP has "wrecked" May's Brexit plans.

0:01:09 > 0:01:12The Metro's headline suggests the paper thinks the DUP

0:01:12 > 0:01:14is exploiting its weight over the government.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17The Mirror puns on the DUP's name - suggesting Mrs May has

0:01:17 > 0:01:20been "duped" by them.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22The Sun's front page focuses on a story about Meghan Markle's

0:01:23 > 0:01:28relationship with her father.

0:01:32 > 0:01:37Let's begin with, well, it's the headline in all the papers pretty

0:01:37 > 0:01:46much in the morning but The Mirror with the one word headline "Duped".

0:01:46 > 0:01:51Summing up what a lot of the papers are saying.I think it's right. It's

0:01:51 > 0:01:55the culmination of two things. The possible Brexit deal but also the

0:01:55 > 0:02:00minority government being propped up by the DUP. I think that came to a

0:02:00 > 0:02:07head today in the Brexit negotiations.Extraordinary the way

0:02:07 > 0:02:12these events unfold and picked up in all the papers.It's astonishing. It

0:02:12 > 0:02:16seemed to start so well. Donald Tusk saying this is why I like Mondays

0:02:16 > 0:02:24had a great call with the Taoiseach. Now it is a grid Monday for the

0:02:24 > 0:02:28negotiations. The Mirror touches on Jeremy Corbyn, highlighting the

0:02:28 > 0:02:36grubby DUP deal, and the DUP threatening to throw their toys out

0:02:36 > 0:02:40of the pram essentially. They pointed out that the text on offer

0:02:40 > 0:02:46would have potentially put the union at risk. Tory backbenchers rallied

0:02:46 > 0:02:52behind the DUP and the Prime Minister has taken flight and

0:02:52 > 0:02:56realised she needs more time to square with the DUP. I'm surprised

0:02:56 > 0:03:02she didn't check with them first. This is why The Daily Mirror is

0:03:02 > 0:03:08making hay with them being "duped" because the DUP have struck again.

0:03:08 > 0:03:18Pat, your paper the Irish Times is focusing on this story. Blows to

0:03:18 > 0:03:22hopes for Brexit deal as Tory backbenchers support the DUP. Tell

0:03:22 > 0:03:27us a bit more about the take from your paper on the extraordinary

0:03:27 > 0:03:33events that unfolded during the day. Unfortunately we missed that

0:03:33 > 0:03:36important story about Meghan Markle's dad but we are pretty much

0:03:36 > 0:03:43up to speed on the rest of the day's happenings. It was an extraordinary

0:03:43 > 0:03:49day in Dublin. We started off with suggestions from the Minister for

0:03:49 > 0:03:52foreign affairs on a morning news programme that he expected a

0:03:52 > 0:03:55breakthrough over the course of the day, and it was an early-morning

0:03:55 > 0:04:01special Cabinet meeting called by the Taoiseach Leo Varadkar to brief

0:04:01 > 0:04:05ministers on the negotiations. Halfway through that meeting he was

0:04:05 > 0:04:15called out to take the phone call from John -- from Jean-Claude

0:04:15 > 0:04:20Juncker. It revealed the deal had been agreed and the British

0:04:20 > 0:04:25negotiating team in Brussels. At that stage we expected that the deal

0:04:25 > 0:04:31would be agreed between Theresa May or Jean-Claude Juncker, given that

0:04:31 > 0:04:38the text had been approved by both the British side and by the Irish

0:04:38 > 0:04:42side. That seems to have fallen apart over lunch when Theresa May

0:04:42 > 0:04:53took a call from Arlene Foster. From then on the deal pretty much

0:04:53 > 0:04:56unravelled. The Taoiseach was due to call a news conference to announce

0:04:56 > 0:05:01the deal at two 30p. He took another call from Jean-Claude Juncker saying

0:05:01 > 0:05:09hold off. We've got a problem. That conference was called off until

0:05:09 > 0:05:155:15pm. I attended it and it really was one of the most extraordinary

0:05:15 > 0:05:23press conference as I have ever been at from the point of view of British

0:05:23 > 0:05:31Irish relations. He said he was surprised and disappointed...Are

0:05:31 > 0:05:38lot of the other papers picking up on that. The FT talking about the

0:05:38 > 0:05:42Brexit divorce derail that the 11th hour after the DUP blocks the Irish

0:05:42 > 0:05:47border deal.The timing is very delicate for the process because

0:05:47 > 0:05:51this is how the EU like to do things. The clock might stop at the

0:05:51 > 0:06:07last minute but the thing is Donald Tusk is still very sanguine. She can

0:06:07 > 0:06:11take it back to the EU later in the week and get it rubber-stamped and

0:06:11 > 0:06:15move on but she can't waste a day now.The word is sanguine, they are

0:06:15 > 0:06:23trying to prevent -- present a relaxed front. I think they are

0:06:23 > 0:06:29trying to use those last days to pull it off. But it's tough.If we

0:06:29 > 0:06:39look at The Guardian, it is talking about the DUP Rex May's Brexit deal.

0:06:39 > 0:06:44Talking about how Jean-Claude Juncker when Theresa May are trying

0:06:44 > 0:06:51to put a brave face on it and saying this needs more time, it doesn't

0:06:51 > 0:06:58seem to be the take here.The Guardian report gives some of the

0:06:58 > 0:07:02detail of the drama of the day. Diplomats were waiting for two hours

0:07:02 > 0:07:06and then sent home. It was like, guys let's go to the pub, it's all

0:07:06 > 0:07:14over. It was a dramatic change of events.Pat Cummins you were talking

0:07:14 > 0:07:19about that extraordinary news conference and it seems as though

0:07:19 > 0:07:22the Irish government was pretty angry at the way this unfolded. Do

0:07:22 > 0:07:28you think it's going to make it more difficult for the Prime Minister to

0:07:28 > 0:07:36square the Irish government now?I think the difficulty is less with

0:07:36 > 0:07:40the government here in Dublin and with the DUP. The Irish government

0:07:40 > 0:07:44has been pretty consistent in terms of what it requires. It's quite

0:07:44 > 0:07:49transparent, it requires eight cast iron guarantee that whatever the

0:07:49 > 0:07:53future deal between the British and the EU, it will not entail a return

0:07:53 > 0:07:59to a hard border and they want strong language guaranteeing that. I

0:07:59 > 0:08:05think the difficulty will probably be at the DUP side. The British

0:08:05 > 0:08:07after all appear to have agreed the language with the Irish government

0:08:07 > 0:08:13and with the European Commission this morning before the DUP

0:08:13 > 0:08:16registered their objections. It really is astonishing that no one in

0:08:16 > 0:08:22London but check with the DUP beforehand. But that I suppose is

0:08:22 > 0:08:28the situation we find ourselves in now. What you'll find is intensive

0:08:28 > 0:08:33discussions between Dublin, London and Belfast. Those relationships

0:08:33 > 0:08:36have been so damaged by today's events I think it will make it

0:08:36 > 0:08:44doubly difficult.There is also focus on that reaction of some

0:08:44 > 0:08:50Conservative MPs. If we look at The Times, Brexit deal after Unionist

0:08:50 > 0:08:57veto.It's touching on some of the reaction, like Jacob Rees-Mogg.

0:08:57 > 0:09:00Reminding everyone the Conservatives are meant to stand for the union. It

0:09:00 > 0:09:06would be bizarre if they had Northern Ireland staying in the

0:09:06 > 0:09:13single market and the customs union in all but name and act like it

0:09:13 > 0:09:23still is. Many other backbenchers would feel the same. It is seemingly

0:09:23 > 0:09:25problematic, dangerous and risky. What if Northern Ireland wants to

0:09:25 > 0:09:32become different from the Republic of Ireland. When you have Scotland

0:09:32 > 0:09:36trying to claim its own right is the dispensation and the snowball effect

0:09:36 > 0:09:42goes on.We've already seen Scotland and Wales saying if Ireland can get

0:09:42 > 0:09:47a special deal maybe we can to.The other thing to highlight in The

0:09:47 > 0:09:53Times is I think they've got the best dab at an explanation of what

0:09:53 > 0:09:59actually happened. Ms Foster had been told broadly what the document

0:09:59 > 0:10:02would say but not the specific wording. I think that's probably the

0:10:02 > 0:10:12most insightful regulatory alignment which doesn't make it into the

0:10:12 > 0:10:19headlines as a sound bite.That was the phrase that really angered the

0:10:19 > 0:10:24DUP.And it didn't stand up to the scrutiny when it was discussed in

0:10:24 > 0:10:32the court of public opinion. It was from EU friendly sources who said it

0:10:32 > 0:10:39is a complete capitulation. The Brexiteers have to eat humble pie.

0:10:39 > 0:10:49Is it any surprise they don't want eat it when it tastes so awful?They

0:10:49 > 0:10:54were so confident they would get the deal they booked in Parliamentary

0:10:54 > 0:10:58time to debate it. It seems like a mystery why they have that

0:10:58 > 0:11:06confidence, given the DUP position. Your own paper talking about how the

0:11:06 > 0:11:11push the deal ends in chaos.We are telling it like it is. It started so

0:11:11 > 0:11:22promisingly. She wanted to do it today, it was meant to go according

0:11:22 > 0:11:28to plan. The cat out of the bag too early and it didn't look right and

0:11:28 > 0:11:33she failed to secure her stakeholders. She forgot to talk to

0:11:33 > 0:11:36the DUP thoroughly enough. She's meant to be on top of the detail but

0:11:36 > 0:11:47it escaped her this time.A brief final word on Pat Liam -- from Pat

0:11:47 > 0:11:50Leahy. It has highlighted how difficult it's going to be to

0:11:50 > 0:11:54resolve this issue of the Irish border.I think that's true. One

0:11:54 > 0:11:58thing that is puzzling people in Dublin, I know the DUP weren't the

0:11:58 > 0:12:02only people who raised concerns about this. Clearly the Scots and

0:12:02 > 0:12:06the Mayor of London and the Welsh also said if Northern Ireland is

0:12:06 > 0:12:09getting a special deal we would like that. We hear this constant

0:12:09 > 0:12:14objection from both the DUP but also from Tory backbenchers saying

0:12:14 > 0:12:17Northern Ireland couldn't possibly be any different from the rest of

0:12:17 > 0:12:21the UK. The fact is Northern Ireland is quite different from the rest of

0:12:21 > 0:12:28the UK. That is the basis that the whole Good Friday Agreement which

0:12:28 > 0:12:31the government say they are committed to defending. There is a

0:12:31 > 0:12:40fair bit of puzzlement in Dublin at that. I think there is in Dublin a

0:12:40 > 0:12:47sense that this is simply the latest example of Mrs May not being very

0:12:47 > 0:12:52good at this process. It is terribly difficult, but at every crucial

0:12:52 > 0:13:02point she seems to have.Thank you for joining us, Pat Leahy. Let's

0:13:02 > 0:13:08look at a couple of the other stories in the papers. A 10,000

0:13:08 > 0:13:11strong Google army to tackle extremists is the other story on the

0:13:11 > 0:13:18front page of The Telegraph here. There has been a lot of concerns

0:13:18 > 0:13:23that Google isn't doing enough to tackle some of those who are using

0:13:23 > 0:13:30this as a platform to peddle extremist views in your paper.It's

0:13:30 > 0:13:33timely and good on Google and YouTube to do this. When you have

0:13:33 > 0:13:38half a million hours of content posted everyday, and the stats of

0:13:38 > 0:13:44this, they found 150,000 had to be taken down. You realise the scale of

0:13:44 > 0:13:48the challenge. You have to have human interaction and that personal

0:13:48 > 0:13:53subjective analysis on how worthwhile this is as content when

0:13:53 > 0:13:57all sorts can get through the net. It's good they are taking social

0:13:57 > 0:14:02responsibility for this.If they really significant move to Google

0:14:02 > 0:14:07and an admission they were acknowledging the fact they are a

0:14:07 > 0:14:10publisher as well as a platform. They have to be responsible for what

0:14:10 > 0:14:14they are printing.It seems as though governance here and around

0:14:14 > 0:14:19the world are really struggling to know how to tackle this.Absolutely.

0:14:19 > 0:14:24This is a sign they are going to take some responsibility. For years

0:14:24 > 0:14:28Google and Facebook have been saying it's not our responsibility, we are

0:14:28 > 0:14:33just a platform, don't shoot the messenger. There has been a creeping

0:14:33 > 0:14:37acknowledgement on both sides that they have to take responsibility. As

0:14:37 > 0:14:41a result of some really excellent reporting by The Times in

0:14:41 > 0:14:46particular, the work they've done to expose the dangerous material that

0:14:46 > 0:14:50is on those platforms.Thank you.

0:14:50 > 0:14:52That's it for The Papers tonight.

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0:15:11 > 0:15:16Thank you Polly and Asa.