10/12/2017

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0:00:00 > 0:00:05Now on BBC News, The Papers.

0:00:16 > 0:00:19Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

0:00:19 > 0:00:20bringing us tomorrow.

0:00:20 > 0:00:23With me are David Wooding, political editor of the Sun on Sunday.

0:00:23 > 0:00:26And journalist and broadcaster Penny Smith.

0:00:26 > 0:00:33Welcome to you both. Let's start by showing the front pages.

0:00:33 > 0:00:34Welcome to you both. Let's start by showing the front pages.

0:00:34 > 0:00:36The Mail on Sunday reports that Theresa May had

0:00:36 > 0:00:39to intervene in a stand up row between the Defence Secretary

0:00:39 > 0:00:41and the Chancellor in the House of Commons.

0:00:41 > 0:00:44The Observer leads with a warning that the EU is under pressure NOT

0:00:44 > 0:00:47to give the UK a better trade deal than other non-member

0:00:47 > 0:00:48countries get after Brexit.

0:00:48 > 0:00:50The Sunday Express says leading Brexit supporting Mps want the UK

0:00:50 > 0:00:54to make clear it will walk away from any trade deal they don't

0:00:54 > 0:00:56think is good enough.

0:00:56 > 0:00:58The Sunday Telegraph goes with tensions within the Cabinet

0:00:58 > 0:01:01over the meaning of the commitments the Prime Minister made to move

0:01:01 > 0:01:07the Brexit talks on.

0:01:07 > 0:01:10And the Sunday Mirror reports that some delivery drivers

0:01:10 > 0:01:13are working 14 hour days, it claims they're earning less

0:01:13 > 0:01:14than the minimum wage.

0:01:19 > 0:01:26Let's kick off Brexit as so often dominating the front pages. The

0:01:26 > 0:01:30Observer has a new blow for Theresa May as the EU gets tough over trade

0:01:30 > 0:01:36deal. The focus moving onto phase two now that they've won it out of

0:01:36 > 0:01:41the way.The next thing is what we do in terms of the future

0:01:41 > 0:01:45relationship with the EU but also trade. That is the big one, the

0:01:45 > 0:01:51Goldman prize of getting a deal for trade with the EU. And reaching out

0:01:51 > 0:01:55globally to other countries. The Observer Splash is telling us the

0:01:55 > 0:02:00other countries, those we are reaching out to two trade with, they

0:02:00 > 0:02:04are saying to the EU "If you are going to give a special deal with

0:02:04 > 0:02:09the UK, what about us? We would frown upon it if you give special

0:02:09 > 0:02:13trade relationship with the UK after they leave the EU. I would argue we

0:02:13 > 0:02:16do have a special relationship with the EU because we've been a member

0:02:16 > 0:02:20for so many years.And all our goods and so on are standardised to EU

0:02:20 > 0:02:28requirements.Their regulations and the various laws they have about the

0:02:28 > 0:02:33standards.That should make a trade deal on some days easier.Whether we

0:02:33 > 0:02:37have tariffs on what is the bigger issue. Lord Carr, the format

0:02:37 > 0:02:43diplomat who drafted Article 50 say the chances of getting a useful deal

0:02:43 > 0:02:46of zero.That's not good either. We could always go down the Norway

0:02:46 > 0:02:53route. The Brexiteers do not want that but there is a comment on the

0:02:53 > 0:03:01Observer where there is a pro-Brexit person who says very annoyed at the

0:03:01 > 0:03:04how much has been seeded to Brussels in the first round of the

0:03:04 > 0:03:10negotiations and one prominent Tory saying we are worried. One large

0:03:10 > 0:03:16part says that, this is a divorce. In a divorce there is give-and-take.

0:03:16 > 0:03:19You can't say, we put all the money in, I put all the money and so I

0:03:19 > 0:03:23will have the house for the children are living with you, I'm not giving

0:03:23 > 0:03:27you all the money. And the other person says "I gave up my job for

0:03:27 > 0:03:32you, I'm looking after the children, often the garden", it is

0:03:32 > 0:03:39give-and-take, it split.But in a way that is what we have seen? With

0:03:39 > 0:03:43the deal Theresa May has done? That's what I'm saying. The

0:03:43 > 0:03:48Brexiteers saying we have ceded it, what did you expect did you expect

0:03:48 > 0:03:51to all the staff were not give anything about the way, you're

0:03:51 > 0:03:57having the children and taking them. Boris Johnson was saying the

0:03:57 > 0:04:00eco-could go whistle if it wanted tens of billions and that's been

0:04:00 > 0:04:07quietly forgetting?Owen Paterson the former Environment Secretary in

0:04:07 > 0:04:11our piece says if they don't give us the deal we should say they can't

0:04:11 > 0:04:15have the money, nothing is agreed until it's all agreed. It will be a

0:04:15 > 0:04:19long process.You have to think about how it is in vitro, again like

0:04:19 > 0:04:22a divorce, you have to look down the line, the reason you're handing over

0:04:22 > 0:04:26the money is because down the line you won't be paying anything to it.

0:04:26 > 0:04:31Or a very small amount.The Sunday Telegraph still on Brexit has

0:04:31 > 0:04:39Cabinet Brexit truce threatens to unravel. Why? This is about

0:04:39 > 0:04:46language.A lot of people think that the riders were expressed Brexit

0:04:46 > 0:04:51breakthrough.Congratulations for saying that.That was a bit of a

0:04:51 > 0:04:52fraud.

0:04:52 > 0:04:55And it had to be a bit of a bug -- a

0:05:01 > 0:05:11-- a bit of a fudge. Someone has allegedly said that from Downing

0:05:11 > 0:05:17Street full alignment from the EU regulations was meaningless and not

0:05:17 > 0:05:23legally binding within EU law. In other words, this is all just words.

0:05:23 > 0:05:25Empty, meaningless word.But important words in the sense that

0:05:25 > 0:05:31they did secure that fudged agreement which moves us onto the

0:05:31 > 0:05:35trade talks.And we have to accept that these talks about trade, there

0:05:35 > 0:05:39has a lot of all the papers today about how it probably won't be

0:05:39 > 0:05:43sorted out, for five years that's how much it takes. I think there

0:05:43 > 0:05:48will probably be a lot of people who feel they are spending far too much

0:05:48 > 0:05:53time and far too many column inches talking about Brexit have really big

0:05:53 > 0:05:58problems we need to get sorted out in this country. We were talking

0:05:58 > 0:06:02earlier on about social mobility, education, housing, health. So many

0:06:02 > 0:06:06other things and they are getting pushed off the front page. Those are

0:06:06 > 0:06:10the things that affect people's lives so much more than this.This

0:06:10 > 0:06:13is going to be central to the economy for decades or even

0:06:13 > 0:06:20centuries to come.Of course. And we know they are desperate for cash,

0:06:20 > 0:06:27clawing back taxes left right and centre to fund all this. But other

0:06:27 > 0:06:34people's lives are going on and they are trying to make ends meet.It's

0:06:34 > 0:06:39not just the coverage, it's the time all being focused on Brexit and it's

0:06:39 > 0:06:43very difficult to focus on anything else. You would focus on Brexit as

0:06:43 > 0:06:47the PM because it's the biggest thing to get right. There is little

0:06:47 > 0:06:53time to do those other.In terms of the timescale, people are saying

0:06:53 > 0:06:58it's unlikely that that agreement can be ranged by 2019.That's the

0:06:58 > 0:07:03other thing, the time. We said they couldn't do it by last Friday and

0:07:03 > 0:07:09they did it.In a sense, some observers said it was an easy part.

0:07:09 > 0:07:14These trade talks are difficult to work out. I don't know how we will

0:07:14 > 0:07:19cover it in the media because it is tedious and deep in detail.It's all

0:07:19 > 0:07:23about services as well. The service industry, we forget how big that is.

0:07:23 > 0:07:31How difficult that is going to be. Goods is one thing. This is another.

0:07:31 > 0:07:34We all thought she had won a big war on Friday, but all we've done is the

0:07:34 > 0:07:41right to enter the first battlefield.On Theresa May, at one

0:07:41 > 0:07:44stage after the election it look like she could even not survive a

0:07:44 > 0:07:50few more days, she still around. She has got this success, victory if you

0:07:50 > 0:07:54want to call it, a breakthrough. She's done quite well? A colleague

0:07:54 > 0:08:02of mine, I think this is a bit optimistic, was liking her to Alex

0:08:02 > 0:08:06Ferguson, the first three years of his charge of Manchester United were

0:08:06 > 0:08:11hopeless and they were nothing. He was about to be sacked and then they

0:08:11 > 0:08:14scored this last-minute goal against Forest in the FA Cup, and went on to

0:08:14 > 0:08:18great things. She could turn this around and become Prime Minister

0:08:18 > 0:08:22again but that's a long shot?There are other people of course,

0:08:22 > 0:08:27mutterings about people who were were a bit stronger and charismatic

0:08:27 > 0:08:34might have done it. That's the trouble. Unless we have a parallel

0:08:34 > 0:08:36universe, how can we tell quicker than we have an extraordinary story

0:08:36 > 0:08:41in the Mail on Sunday, claiming there was pretty much a bust up in

0:08:41 > 0:08:48the House of Commons.Theresa May was almost like the referee was

0:08:48 > 0:08:52separating the two prizefighters slugging it out.This is Philip

0:08:52 > 0:08:59Hammond, aged 62.In one corner.And then Gavin Williamson, aged 41, in

0:08:59 > 0:09:04the defence corner. And essentially, they are just being a bit naughty.

0:09:04 > 0:09:10My mum would say, bash your heads together, not that she ever did, but

0:09:10 > 0:09:19that is what it is.What actually happened? According to one MP, the

0:09:19 > 0:09:22Defence Secretary went for Philip Hammond's throat. That sounds... Do

0:09:22 > 0:09:27you believe that?There is a bit of a history, he's not been Defence

0:09:27 > 0:09:32Secretary for more than a few weeks can make you may remember that Gavin

0:09:32 > 0:09:35Williamson was the Chief Whip and was quite an effective Chief Whip

0:09:35 > 0:09:41because there was not a single rebellion while he was Chief Whip.

0:09:41 > 0:09:44He was made Defence Secretary and then immediately comes up with big

0:09:44 > 0:09:51mouths of what I bolster the defence cuts, Philip Hammond then sneeringly

0:09:51 > 0:10:00saying when he understands the budget working.He likened him to a

0:10:00 > 0:10:02character from Dubs Army.

0:10:05 > 0:10:14-- Dad's Army.Not taking on foreign trips because we need to preserve

0:10:14 > 0:10:16resources, there is a tit-for-tat war going on between them, and the

0:10:16 > 0:10:25one thing is that Gavin Williamson is seen as an outsider for the

0:10:25 > 0:10:31Conservative leader. He's gone into the job and people think he may

0:10:31 > 0:10:35succeed Theresa May. Like John Major came from nowhere to be Michael

0:10:35 > 0:10:38Heseltine some of the favourite at the post.And the Mail actually have

0:10:38 > 0:10:44a profile on page five, the outsider with his sides zeroed in on number

0:10:44 > 0:10:50ten. Penny, do you think he could be by Minister?This thing is at the

0:10:50 > 0:10:53moment don't think most of us who are not steeped in politics know

0:10:53 > 0:10:57enough about him to know whether or not. You are saying there were no

0:10:57 > 0:11:00rebellion when he was too wet and at the centre is

0:11:01 > 0:11:03That's because

0:11:04 > 0:11:13when he was Chief Whip.He keeps a tarantula.But those lovely.There's

0:11:13 > 0:11:21a bit of venom around anywhere.Even if some of that is true, it shows

0:11:21 > 0:11:26Theresa May does have a lot of warring parties in her Cabinet that

0:11:26 > 0:11:33she has two, whether is literally all physically, separate. Or bring

0:11:33 > 0:11:39together.There's a personality clash here.The other side is that

0:11:39 > 0:11:43politics has become very anodyne, the days when you actually could

0:11:43 > 0:11:47clearly tell the difference between one and another, you could seriously

0:11:47 > 0:11:51tell someone was left-wing all right-wing, possibly by the way they

0:11:51 > 0:11:54wore their clothes or what they chose to drink or whether they chose

0:11:54 > 0:11:59smoke. Now it's all become a little more woolly.Even with Jeremy

0:11:59 > 0:12:05Corbyn?That's what I'm saying, up until now. I think the political

0:12:05 > 0:12:09landscape is changing.It's more colourful, in a sense?In some ways

0:12:09 > 0:12:13that is no bad thing, we needed to get people involved in politics

0:12:13 > 0:12:18because it affects us all.He so you quite like to see Cabinet ministers

0:12:18 > 0:12:20with their hands on other Cabinet ministers strokes?

0:12:24 > 0:12:25-- strokes?

0:12:29 > 0:12:32We don't how close they got but it's good that they are committed and

0:12:32 > 0:12:41passionate.The Telegraph have fast track degree. The idea you might be

0:12:41 > 0:12:47a two year or rather than three. This is about making it quicker and

0:12:47 > 0:12:50cheaper for people who want to do a degree but then won three years,

0:12:50 > 0:12:58it's to £11,000 a year for a two-year degree, saving you five and

0:12:58 > 0:13:03a half thousand pounds because you do two years not treat you get a job

0:13:03 > 0:13:08quicker with the average starting salary for it to telling the latter

0:13:08 > 0:13:14is £19,000. Jo Johnson says this will cost, save £20,000.Good news

0:13:14 > 0:13:19for mature students, people who are poorer and busy Christmas holidays

0:13:19 > 0:13:23and summer holidays will have to be sure and it comes on the back of the

0:13:23 > 0:13:27National Audit Office last week saying some degrees were not fit for

0:13:27 > 0:13:30purpose and people were going in paying a lot of money and coming up

0:13:30 > 0:13:39with less prospect of your prospects. -- fewer prospects.

0:13:39 > 0:13:42Sunday Times, civil partnerships to go straight, heterosexuals in civil

0:13:42 > 0:13:47partnership.Good idea. You don't have to go to a church and makes out

0:13:47 > 0:13:51if you don't believe in that sort of thing. You therefore have rights. At

0:13:51 > 0:13:57the moment were lots of people think there is a common-law marriage,

0:13:57 > 0:13:59there isn't and you have no right. This confers rights without having

0:13:59 > 0:14:05to go.It makes sense?There was some argument when it was introduced

0:14:05 > 0:14:08for gay people that heterosexuals should have it as well and now that

0:14:08 > 0:14:12the gay people have got married, equal marriage, this is a level

0:14:12 > 0:14:19playing field.It's good.Let's get into the Christmas, fast of spirit

0:14:19 > 0:14:26because there is our Prime Minister and putting the decorations in the

0:14:26 > 0:14:30tree in Maidenhead, her constituency. This is a bit of a

0:14:30 > 0:14:34difference though?It's a stiletto because we know she likes those

0:14:34 > 0:14:38shoes. Whatever you want to do. Why is she wearing a proper Christmas

0:14:38 > 0:14:44jumper or something bright was whether it's a gloomy picture. A

0:14:44 > 0:14:50nice bright jumper, a pink cardigan like me or get really good jumpers

0:14:50 > 0:14:55with lit up bits.Does that show little sense of having a stiletto

0:14:55 > 0:15:02grip now, she's always talked about shoes.I once asked how many pairs

0:15:02 > 0:15:05of shoes she had doing an interview and select me sternly and said not

0:15:05 > 0:15:11enough. I know she's got lots of shoes.I wonder if she used this

0:15:11 > 0:15:14stiletto to separate those two Cabinet minister. It might be a

0:15:14 > 0:15:22useful weapon!The used to talk about Margaret Thatcher and

0:15:22 > 0:15:25handbagging, a stiletto is also a knife.Don't give the Prime Minister

0:15:25 > 0:15:33ideas. That's finished off with a bracing picture on the Sunday Times

0:15:33 > 0:15:37and it is snowing across a lot of the country, it is very chilly.

0:15:37 > 0:15:41Someone didn't check the forecast. Or maybe they did because they swim

0:15:41 > 0:15:48in these places. He looks quite fit, doesn't he? Helix that the sort of

0:15:48 > 0:15:54person that could dive into ice.I wonder if you just happen to be

0:15:54 > 0:15:57swimming and a photographer takes a picture, and you find is plastered

0:15:57 > 0:16:01over the front pages next morning. It must be a bit of a shock.It

0:16:01 > 0:16:06makes me shiver just look at that picture. Having come through this

0:16:06 > 0:16:11road this morning and then to see that.They are now cutting the odds

0:16:11 > 0:16:15on a white Christmas but we have been swotting up on a white

0:16:15 > 0:16:19Christmas. A white Christmas, if a snowflake falls on Christmas Day,

0:16:19 > 0:16:25anywhere in the UK. One snowflake. But obviously anywhere.You got

0:16:25 > 0:16:29about seven or eight on your jumper. Hopefully they won't drop off in the

0:16:29 > 0:16:34machine next to my wash it. In all areas where the Met office have a

0:16:34 > 0:16:40measuring unit. This is what we were doing, 1138 times in the past 54

0:16:40 > 0:16:46years with one snowflake but able but white Christmas, blankets

0:16:46 > 0:16:54snowing, has only happened four Times in 51 years. Do you remember

0:16:54 > 0:16:59any? I do. But I'm coming up to goodness knows how many decades on

0:16:59 > 0:17:05earth.Does it mean a lot to have a white Christmas's it

0:17:06 > 0:17:12for the kids --for the kids but we are

0:17:12 > 0:17:14for the kids --for the kids but we are screwed.

0:17:20 > 0:17:29-- we are Scrooge.Bah humbug. Merry Christmas if I don't see you, that

0:17:29 > 0:17:36is it for the papers.

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