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0:00:00 > 0:00:01Coming up in a moment, The Papers.

0:00:15 > 0:00:18Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

0:00:18 > 0:00:22will be bringing us tomorrow.

0:00:22 > 0:00:25With me are Jessica Elgot, political reporter at the Guardian

0:00:25 > 0:00:28and Steve Hawkes, Deputy political editor at The Sun.

0:00:28 > 0:00:35Good to see you both, no fisticuffs. Never.I don't want any violence

0:00:35 > 0:00:46tonight.It will be good-natured. The times devotes its front page to

0:00:46 > 0:00:51the Tory rebellion.

0:00:51 > 0:00:52The Telegraph leads on the government's parliamentary

0:00:52 > 0:00:55defeat this evening due what it calls a "mutiny" by Tory rebels.

0:00:55 > 0:00:58The Guardian also features the Brexit rebellion on its front

0:00:58 > 0:01:00page, alongside Chris Froome's statement that he is not a cheat,

0:01:00 > 0:01:03after the results of an "adverse" drugs test emerged.

0:01:03 > 0:01:05The Financial Times reports that the UK will soon receive

0:01:05 > 0:01:07imports of Russian gas, as well as predictions that banks

0:01:07 > 0:01:10will only move 6% of jobs out of London after Brexit.

0:01:10 > 0:01:12The Daily Mirror's top story is comedian Peter Kay's apology

0:01:12 > 0:01:14to fans after cancelling his 100-date comeback tour due

0:01:15 > 0:01:17to unforeseen family circumstances.

0:01:17 > 0:01:20The Daily Express front page also features Peter Kay's tour

0:01:20 > 0:01:23cancellation, alongside warnings that millions of people

0:01:23 > 0:01:25face "pension crisis", because they are not saving

0:01:25 > 0:01:27enough for retirement.

0:01:27 > 0:01:30And the Metro's main story is the death of 3-year-old

0:01:30 > 0:01:32Lia Pearson, the fourth child to die following a house fire

0:01:32 > 0:01:38in Greater Manchester on Monday.

0:01:41 > 0:01:46We are on leave of a EU summit, a pretty crucial one, but there are

0:01:46 > 0:01:50some people who believe Theresa May's cans are now tied. Look at the

0:01:50 > 0:01:56front page of the Guardian. Tory rebellion humiliates PM on Brexit

0:01:56 > 0:02:03bill. A very close vote in the Commons this evening. 309 to 305, I

0:02:03 > 0:02:08think it was, a majority of four for those people who feel that

0:02:08 > 0:02:13Parliament should have a big say in the final Brexit deal. Also the

0:02:13 > 0:02:23front page of The Times. Revenge of the rebels. MPs win the right to

0:02:23 > 0:02:29final vote on Brexit. Jessica, this is a humiliation, isn't it?And just

0:02:29 > 0:02:32think at the end of last week Edward like Theresa May was in a really

0:02:32 > 0:02:39strong position on moving the Brexit talks on to the next stage, so we

0:02:39 > 0:02:42can start to talk about trade. And suddenly she was going into the

0:02:42 > 0:02:46summit on the back of a really humiliating defeat in Parliament,

0:02:46 > 0:02:50and the European leaders might start saying to each other, is she really

0:02:50 > 0:02:55going to have the backing to deliver a deal, even if we agree it?The

0:02:55 > 0:02:59whole point about Brexit, Steve, some would argue, is that Parliament

0:02:59 > 0:03:02would get primacy, it would be the final arbiter of laws in this

0:03:02 > 0:03:07country. And surely the rebels at the Tory party would argue this, and

0:03:07 > 0:03:13Labour and the Lib Dems and the SNP would say, this is what Brexit is

0:03:13 > 0:03:20all about.There is that line, you want to take back control, this is

0:03:20 > 0:03:25it. It is driving them mad. This is got to come back to the Commons for

0:03:25 > 0:03:29another reading so it could be changed, but it is the tone, the

0:03:29 > 0:03:34shift. It is what it means full stop Theresa May tomorrow morning goes to

0:03:34 > 0:03:38Brussels about a crunch summit about the start of trade talks. Now her

0:03:38 > 0:03:42negotiating hand is weakened by this. You have three different

0:03:42 > 0:03:47things, the arch Remainers who now think that Brexit can be stopped,

0:03:47 > 0:03:50people like Lord Adonis saying this is the first step, we can derail

0:03:50 > 0:03:56this. The arch Brexiteers who always thought this was going to happen,

0:03:56 > 0:04:02something would stop it. And the Tory party is furious with these

0:04:02 > 0:04:09rivals, saying it hands the initiative to the EU. How does it

0:04:09 > 0:04:12possibly help our party?The front page of the Daily Mail as welcome

0:04:12 > 0:04:18which we will bring up, it is reporting on this story. I think it

0:04:18 > 0:04:24will come, here it is, eventually. Jessica, the fact is, I know we all

0:04:24 > 0:04:28said, it is a hoary old phrase, a week is a long time in politics,

0:04:28 > 0:04:32Theresa May last week flying to Brussels was enjoying her eggs

0:04:32 > 0:04:36Benedict, Heurtaux stand her orange juice. She has no appetite on that

0:04:36 > 0:04:42plane tomorrow, has she? She will be as sick as a pig!This has been the

0:04:42 > 0:04:46hallmark basically of Theresa May's entire career as PM, about how

0:04:46 > 0:04:51quickly things can change will stop look at that front page. Proud of

0:04:51 > 0:04:55yourselves question?

0:04:55 > 0:05:00look at that front page. Proud of yourselves I mean, what is that?!To

0:05:00 > 0:05:04be honest, they probably are proud of themselves.Jess was pointing

0:05:04 > 0:05:07out, the Telegraph front page where they had the mutineers were stopped

0:05:07 > 0:05:12Nicky Morgan tonight, a lot of these Tory MPs will face huge problems in

0:05:12 > 0:05:18their own constituencies, but she is saying the Telegraph front page,

0:05:18 > 0:05:26they will have T-shirts made of it. It emboldened them. 17 million

0:05:26 > 0:05:29people wanted Brexit, remember, so a lot of them will say, great, they

0:05:29 > 0:05:34would be happy about this.But all these MPs are the ones on the front

0:05:34 > 0:05:37of the Daily Mail, they will make the point that this is not going to

0:05:37 > 0:05:43derail Brexit. This is backing Brexit up, it is giving the people a

0:05:43 > 0:05:48voice.These MPs voted for Article 50, the moment of triggering it that

0:05:48 > 0:05:53set the two-year timeline in motion, which means that, unless we

0:05:53 > 0:05:58unilaterally withdraw it, then we are leaving the EU at the end of the

0:05:58 > 0:06:05process. This doesn't derail it, but does it make a softer Brexit more

0:06:05 > 0:06:08likely, is that the underlying motivation for some of these rebels?

0:06:08 > 0:06:13Probably.There is a vote next week, we get an amendment about the end

0:06:13 > 0:06:18date. That will be key, because of the rebels rebel then, there will be

0:06:18 > 0:06:22real issues. Because then they would be accused of starving Brexit.Sure,

0:06:22 > 0:06:29absolutely. The Financial Times, sticking with Brexit. Banks defied

0:06:29 > 0:06:34gloomy Brexit with forecast with plans to just remove 6% of London

0:06:34 > 0:06:40jobs. The suggestion was there would be the flight of the talents in the

0:06:40 > 0:06:47banking world, Steve, but actually the banks think it is all OK.6%

0:06:47 > 0:06:52doesn't define all OK I suppose, but it is big, coming from the FT. They

0:06:52 > 0:06:56have been very pro-Remain. They will be happy with the night's vote.

0:06:56 > 0:07:03There was a all these jobs this is just 6%. Who knows, if the

0:07:03 > 0:07:05transition deal comes, which is the main thing about tomorrow, then

0:07:05 > 0:07:10everyone takes a breath, justices will keep the jobs here. It is the

0:07:10 > 0:07:12last part that perhaps we should be more worried about, it says it is

0:07:12 > 0:07:17not about what happens on day one, it is three to five years down the

0:07:17 > 0:07:22line.But Jessica, your newspaper, doom and gloom when it comes to

0:07:22 > 0:07:27Brexit. The sky will fall in, it will all be a disaster. The front

0:07:27 > 0:07:38page of the Financial Times, look at that!How unfair! (!) This is the

0:07:38 > 0:07:43FT's own analysis of how it will go. It is different to the city bosses

0:07:43 > 0:07:47who say we will have to move unless we get a deal. It sort of shows you

0:07:47 > 0:07:52how much they are trying to influence it. There was a tweet if

0:07:52 > 0:07:57you weeks ago from the CEO of Goldman Sachs, saying I have just

0:07:57 > 0:08:00been to Frankfurt, what a lovely place this is, I will spend a lot

0:08:00 > 0:08:06more time here. It is all mood music.This is reality.These are

0:08:06 > 0:08:12the raw figures. At the moment, 6% is still significant.That is

0:08:12 > 0:08:16interesting, given the vote tonight, and that MPs will now have more than

0:08:16 > 0:08:20likely the final say on a deal, are you going to get these

0:08:20 > 0:08:23constituencies, the banking sector, they will build ringing up their

0:08:23 > 0:08:28local MPs, when they they went bother going to Theresa May any

0:08:28 > 0:08:32more, just ring up the guy in the constituency office.When all the

0:08:32 > 0:08:43dust settles down, Labour stops patting itself on the back, you have

0:08:43 > 0:08:46the European Parliament's main negotiator in the Telegraph crowing

0:08:46 > 0:08:49about this is a great day for democracy. That will go down like a

0:08:49 > 0:08:55lead balloon in the Tory party, you have the opposition, as such,

0:08:55 > 0:08:59crowing about what a great job the rebels have done. Looks like it will

0:08:59 > 0:09:04be a softer Brexit, that is what they need, what they want. I have

0:09:04 > 0:09:08forgotten your point now, Clive! That is the beauty of the hung

0:09:08 > 0:09:13parliament. People can ring up their MP, try and change their minds, and

0:09:13 > 0:09:18it might change what the government says.It is the beauty of

0:09:18 > 0:09:23representative democracy.That snapped election, well done,

0:09:23 > 0:09:27Theresa.Which is why we don't often have referenda in this country, some

0:09:27 > 0:09:34might argue.I wonder what David Cameron would say?Indeed. Back to

0:09:34 > 0:09:38the Telegraph, NHS staff 's shortages, millennials demanding

0:09:38 > 0:09:45career breaks?It is probably true, I probably just about fit into the

0:09:45 > 0:09:52millennial bracket.Wow.I feel like my contemporaries definitely want

0:09:52 > 0:09:59more flexible working hours, to work from home or, take a couple of

0:09:59 > 0:10:03months off and work longer hours for other months. I think the world of

0:10:03 > 0:10:08work is changing. It is something employers need to adapt to and it is

0:10:08 > 0:10:14healthier. So many studies showing it is.Not healthy for the NHS,

0:10:14 > 0:10:19though, that seems to be the problem! While you are enjoying your

0:10:19 > 0:10:22holidays, whatever, staff are needed in the NHS, so it is causing a

0:10:22 > 0:10:27problem here.There could be more bursaries fitness training and that

0:10:27 > 0:10:32sort of thing. It is easier to blame millennials who want a holiday.When

0:10:32 > 0:10:35robots are doing everything from you could have a really long career

0:10:35 > 0:10:40break.But nursing would be one of those areas where you could not get

0:10:40 > 0:10:45it to do it properly, that's the thing.Some of the things you hear

0:10:45 > 0:10:49from perhaps the older, my generation, but they talk sometimes

0:10:49 > 0:10:55about the younger staff who come in, and their work ethic, and there is

0:10:55 > 0:10:58that divergences. The older worker who has been used to working eight

0:10:58 > 0:11:02till seven, the young ones come in and say I don't want to do that.I

0:11:02 > 0:11:07don't think it is necessarily about not wanting to work hard.It is just

0:11:07 > 0:11:13different, yes.And flexibility. Being a bit more constructive with

0:11:13 > 0:11:19your use of time, I suppose. Jessica, women feel more unhappy

0:11:19 > 0:11:25than men until they reach their mid-80s.There is a quake Orton

0:11:25 > 0:11:28great quote, some of your viewers might be thinking, I wonder why that

0:11:28 > 0:11:35is? Psychiatrists say it is maybe because so many are widowed by them.

0:11:35 > 0:11:42That might be a reason!Women decide to become happier when they are

0:11:42 > 0:11:49widowed!When they haven't got blokes hanging around them being a

0:11:49 > 0:11:54pain?I am not too sure about that. This great stat that men who are

0:11:54 > 0:11:57widowed, single or divorced are more vulnerable to developing depression,

0:11:57 > 0:12:03but married women are more likely to develop depression. There is a real

0:12:03 > 0:12:09insinuation running through this.We shouldn't dwell on that, Steve. We

0:12:09 > 0:12:12will go to the express was to look at this photograph, ladies and

0:12:12 > 0:12:18gentlemen. This is a squirrel, and he has got his nuts, and there is a

0:12:18 > 0:12:23bird wanting to fly in and Nick his nuts, or her nuts. Look at that,

0:12:23 > 0:12:34fantastic photograph. It is ice. Ice age squirrel in shock as cheeky bird

0:12:34 > 0:12:39pinches it snapped. Look at the photograph beneath. There is a nut

0:12:39 > 0:12:44inside the ice, I am being told. Our photo copier is on the blink and I

0:12:44 > 0:12:49can't see a dam thing. At the bottom of the page is this story about a

0:12:49 > 0:12:55whole Christmas dinner, battered and fried. Brussels sprouts, chicken,

0:12:55 > 0:13:02the potato, everything, deep-fried. Steve?Perfect. We had our Christmas

0:13:02 > 0:13:06party last night so I probably could have finished this off at lunchtime.

0:13:06 > 0:13:11Or at five in the morning when he got home, more like it!It is one of

0:13:11 > 0:13:16those great stories of Christmas, it takes you away from some of the more

0:13:16 > 0:13:19serious stuff, but it is a Fish bar in Devon that has deep-fried

0:13:19 > 0:13:26everything. We will have to try it, bring it in, Clive.Jessica?It says

0:13:26 > 0:13:29£9 95. I don't know how much people spend on Christmas dinners for

0:13:29 > 0:13:32themselves, but you end up spending quite a lot. That seems like really

0:13:32 > 0:13:37good value. It is the deep-fried mince pie that comes with it in the

0:13:37 > 0:13:41box that puts me off.The quote from the chip shop owner, Andrew

0:13:41 > 0:13:47Marshall. It is a little heavy. LAUGHTER

0:13:47 > 0:13:52Jessica, Stephen, good to see you. Thanks for that, and to youth are

0:13:52 > 0:13:56watching. That is it for the night. Don't forget, you can see all of the

0:13:56 > 0:14:00front pages of the papers online and the BBC website.

0:14:00 > 0:14:03It's all there for you - seven days a week at bbc dot co uk

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0:14:10 > 0:14:12Thank you Jessica Elgot and Steve Hawkes.

0:14:12 > 0:14:13Goodbye.