0:00:00 > 0:00:00Copenhagen. I wonder what she will do with it. Give it to someone for
0:00:00 > 0:00:02Christmas? Or keep it. Why not?
0:00:02 > 0:00:04That's all the sport for now.
0:00:04 > 0:00:08Now on BBC News, here's Ben with The Papers.
0:00:14 > 0:00:17Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what The Papers will be
0:00:17 > 0:00:21bringing us.
0:00:21 > 0:00:24With me are Katy Balls, of the Spectator, and journalist
0:00:24 > 0:00:29and broadcaster Shyama Perera.
0:00:29 > 0:00:31Thank you very much for coming in.
0:00:31 > 0:00:34First, let's have a look at today's front pages.
0:00:34 > 0:00:40The Observer leads on Brexit, and warnings from Tory
0:00:40 > 0:00:42peers that they will vote against the Government in Parliament
0:00:42 > 0:00:45if the Prime Minister tries to bully them into supporting an extreme
0:00:45 > 0:00:51version of leaving the EU.
0:00:51 > 0:00:53The Sunday Telegraph's front page features an article
0:00:53 > 0:00:55by the Prime Minister with a quote, "I've proved doubters wrong."
0:00:55 > 0:00:57And another of its stories highlights changes
0:00:57 > 0:00:59to company pensions and new government plans
0:00:59 > 0:01:06to reduce the automatic enrolment age from 22 to 18.
0:01:06 > 0:01:10In the Sunday Times, as well as their lead
0:01:10 > 0:01:12on Boris Johnson's warning on Brexit, there's
0:01:12 > 0:01:14a story on tuition fees, with the former Universities
0:01:14 > 0:01:16Minister, David Willetts, saying he wants an urgent government
0:01:16 > 0:01:21review to scrap high interest rates on loan repayments.
0:01:21 > 0:01:25Theresa May writes in the Sunday Express,
0:01:25 > 0:01:27saying she will not be derailed from her duty to deliver the
0:01:28 > 0:01:31public's decision to leave the EU.
0:01:31 > 0:01:34The Mail on Sunday claims left-wing trolls sent abuse to the pregnant
0:01:34 > 0:01:43wife of a Tory MP after he heckled Jeremy Corbyn over his age.
0:01:43 > 0:01:52Let us start with the Sunday Telegraph, the Prime Minister, Katy,
0:01:52 > 0:01:56I have proved the doubters wrong, in she has. The doubters after the
0:01:56 > 0:02:00election said she could only survive a few days. Here she still is is.
0:02:00 > 0:02:05Her victory comment piece after she has basically made it to Christmas,
0:02:05 > 0:02:09touch wood, and after she was granted sufficient progress to move
0:02:09 > 0:02:15on to the second stage of the Brexit talks, this is her saying, I have
0:02:15 > 0:02:19got through it, got through the first part of the negotiations,
0:02:19 > 0:02:24everyone thought I would be gone. She also says, amid all the noise,
0:02:24 > 0:02:29we are getting on with the job. Some of that noise has been brought by
0:02:29 > 0:02:33herself and the Cabinet.Yes!Still a correct statement, they are making
0:02:33 > 0:02:38progress. A lot of people would not have gambled she would be here, she
0:02:38 > 0:02:43does look in a stronger position, I think, than a few weeks ago.Despite
0:02:43 > 0:02:47the Commons defeat the other day, Shyama, at the hands of rebel MPs,
0:02:47 > 0:02:54it has on the whole been a good few days.Absolutely. She responded by
0:02:54 > 0:02:58saying, we will not be derailed from this fundamental duty to delivered
0:02:58 > 0:03:03the democratic will of the British people. It is obviously not being
0:03:03 > 0:03:08derailed if people are saying we should get a view. But it is a very
0:03:08 > 0:03:13robust statement from the Prime Minister in the Sunday Telegraph.
0:03:13 > 0:03:18For whoever is reading it, I guess they will be reassured.Whenever the
0:03:18 > 0:03:21Prime Minister writes in a Sunday paper, so too it seems startled
0:03:21 > 0:03:29Foreign Secretary, arguably on manoeuvres again. -- it seems does
0:03:29 > 0:03:34the Foreign Secretary.Always fully supportive, backing up her vision!
0:03:34 > 0:03:38Boris getting in ahead. This week is when the Cabinet for the first time
0:03:38 > 0:03:44will start talking about what Britain's end relationship with the
0:03:44 > 0:03:48EU should be. Ahead of that meeting, Boris has decided to tell the Sunday
0:03:48 > 0:03:53Times what he thinks the vision should be. I am not sure Theresa May
0:03:53 > 0:03:59will thank him. The idea being we should diverged from the EU rules.
0:03:59 > 0:04:05This will be 2018's discussion! Not the juiciest topic. Breaking free
0:04:05 > 0:04:12from Ray meat regulations, but it has risks -- from regulations.To
0:04:12 > 0:04:17what extent should we be aligned with the EU?It is an interesting
0:04:17 > 0:04:20exercise, the whole Brexit negotiation, in how diplomacy works
0:04:20 > 0:04:24because we are seeing it on the front pages every day, the changing
0:04:24 > 0:04:28of the single word suddenly creating a new way of looking at something or
0:04:28 > 0:04:34somehow calming those who are getting into... Creating a new way
0:04:34 > 0:04:47of looking at the same old, same old. When it said Boris, I read it
0:04:47 > 0:04:54as Wassle state, Christmas statement...He does tend to have
0:04:54 > 0:05:01you reaching for your dictionary! His criticism of Jeremy Corbyn did
0:05:01 > 0:05:10not quite work, hopefully will be more successful. I have forgotten
0:05:10 > 0:05:17what the definition of mugglewump was. The Observer, call off the
0:05:17 > 0:05:20Brexit bullies, the Commons defeat the other day, the whips were
0:05:20 > 0:05:26accused of being a little overzealous in their whipping to the
0:05:26 > 0:05:32extent they may have been bullying. Absolutely. We note the 11
0:05:32 > 0:05:36dissenters have all received death threats and allsorts of unpleasant
0:05:36 > 0:05:44things. This is two Tory peers also writing in the Observer, so I do not
0:05:44 > 0:05:50know if Mrs May and Boris and the Observer and the two baroness as
0:05:50 > 0:05:53were hoping they would get a newspaper to edit when they leave,
0:05:53 > 0:05:58but they are writing that the resulting appalling insult from
0:05:58 > 0:06:02Brexiteers calls for the expulsion from the party and even death
0:06:02 > 0:06:06threats are worrying symptoms of the toxic atmosphere which has been
0:06:06 > 0:06:09created in our country. Harriet Harman will be introducing it in the
0:06:09 > 0:06:14Commons tomorrow. She will be calling for some action to be taken.
0:06:14 > 0:06:19The question is, what and how?That is the modern atmosphere in which
0:06:19 > 0:06:24politics is played out, not only the whips, but social media, in a sense,
0:06:24 > 0:06:29and some of the very virulent attacks politicians now are on the
0:06:29 > 0:06:35end of.Yeah, not only in this story, in the story on the front of
0:06:35 > 0:06:39the mail on Sunday, abuse from Jeremy Corbyn supporters... This is
0:06:39 > 0:06:45not the majority of people and the majority of people are not online
0:06:45 > 0:06:49trolls but there is a space for them and there is this vitriol which you
0:06:49 > 0:06:54do not see or it used to be a letter to the MP that they were not shown.
0:06:54 > 0:06:59Now they are confronted with it constantly. It is tricky what the
0:06:59 > 0:07:02Labour leadership, what the Government can do. But they can send
0:07:02 > 0:07:06a clear message it is not OK which is what they are asking Theresa May
0:07:06 > 0:07:10to do.It is terrifying that it comes into your personal space, that
0:07:10 > 0:07:14is the difference, your phone is attached to your body, almost. If
0:07:14 > 0:07:19you look on social media and the on Twitter receiving horrible threats,
0:07:19 > 0:07:23it feels like someone is right in your face, that is the difference.
0:07:23 > 0:07:28If you are politician, you cannot cut yourself off from social media,
0:07:28 > 0:07:41ignore it, say, I am not to be on Twitter. Then you will be accused of
0:07:41 > 0:07:43being behind on social media which the Conservatives are already
0:07:43 > 0:07:45accused. Nigel Farage, Shyama, still sort of on Brexit, claiming he is
0:07:45 > 0:07:49skint. Poor Nigel. No money in politics.He is going slightly off
0:07:49 > 0:07:56the Brexit theme, he says he has separated and is skint at 53. After
0:07:56 > 0:08:0024 years, he is really not earning enough from politics. Of course, we
0:08:00 > 0:08:06forget he has been an MEP. We forgot all about MEPs until Nigel Farage
0:08:06 > 0:08:10started asking for us to leave Europe. I think this is a story
0:08:10 > 0:08:15about a man on the brink of divorce. Therefore, he is utterly panicked
0:08:15 > 0:08:20because he will have to hand over half of his doings to his Mrs. It
0:08:20 > 0:08:25says he has a 4 million sperm town house. Let us say in London at the
0:08:25 > 0:08:29moment prices are so down, no matter what the papers say, it will only go
0:08:29 > 0:08:35for 3 million, so Nigel will only get 1.5 million, and by those
0:08:35 > 0:08:38standards, he probably is skint, quite frankly.Are you feeling
0:08:38 > 0:08:43sorry, is your heart bleeding for Nigel Farage?He also played a role
0:08:43 > 0:08:48in losing one of his jobs because it is hard to see how he will continue
0:08:48 > 0:08:52as an MEP, so maybe he needs to have a think about that.He gave himself
0:08:52 > 0:09:00the warnings and sacked himself!An interesting story today about
0:09:00 > 0:09:04teenagers and whether they should be saving in pension schemes from their
0:09:04 > 0:09:10first day at work, the idea of reducing that age from 22 to 18.
0:09:10 > 0:09:15Some 18-year-olds will be saying, why do I need to think about a
0:09:15 > 0:09:18pension?I think this is great news because it is one of those things
0:09:18 > 0:09:23were although you probably do not think you should be saving for your
0:09:23 > 0:09:28pension, if it comes out before you get paid, you do not really notice,
0:09:28 > 0:09:32that is how I have found with this and my student loan. It is quite
0:09:32 > 0:09:37terrifying when you think about it, by the time I get to the age of
0:09:37 > 0:09:42retiring, I will not hazard a guess at what age that will be, there will
0:09:42 > 0:09:46be... The state pension, you do not know what it will be. Whenever I
0:09:46 > 0:09:52speak to my friends, I asked them what kind of... Great chat at a
0:09:52 > 0:10:00party! Percentage of the salary, the 1%, if your employer will matched
0:10:00 > 0:10:06that, the best thing to be doing.Is that what you talk about at parties?
0:10:06 > 0:10:11Sometimes I am alone in the corner, weird. Is there a problem getting
0:10:11 > 0:10:16younger people to save?They have very little money left in their pay
0:10:16 > 0:10:21packet to say. I have two adult daughters a little bit younger than
0:10:21 > 0:10:27Katy and they are in the jobs market and they can barely make ends meet
0:10:27 > 0:10:31with paying student loans, Masters loans, bits and bobs. This is a
0:10:31 > 0:10:37brilliant thing to do. Even from our age group, when I was there age, I
0:10:37 > 0:10:41was earning enough and I imagined that was absolutely... The state
0:10:41 > 0:10:45pension would be more than enough to maintain the lifestyle I had. You
0:10:45 > 0:10:50forget as you get older, you have children, homes, other things, which
0:10:50 > 0:10:55as a pensioner, you still need to maintain. Let us get them all saving
0:10:55 > 0:11:02as much as is humanly possible.We had the rental memorial service at
0:11:02 > 0:11:07St Paul's, very moving, six months on from the terrible disaster -- the
0:11:07 > 0:11:15Grenfell memorial service. Steve McQueen is going to make a film
0:11:15 > 0:11:20tribute to the victims of Grenfell Tower.It is going to involve a
0:11:20 > 0:11:24helicopter going over the building, starting this week, while at his
0:11:24 > 0:11:28there, taking footage. They are saying it will be exhibited but not
0:11:28 > 0:11:33further two years, part of the reason being, still an inquiry
0:11:33 > 0:11:36ongoing and all of their residence in the area have been notified
0:11:36 > 0:11:40because obviously it is such a sensitive issue and will be four
0:11:40 > 0:11:47years to come.Do you think it is worth more memorial, Shyama?I do. I
0:11:47 > 0:11:51think it is wonderful Steve McQueen is funding it himself which says an
0:11:51 > 0:11:58awful lot, a white City buy, from just down the road, we are both
0:11:58 > 0:12:02within spitting distance, you are closer than me, Katy, and it is
0:12:02 > 0:12:07wonderful to know it will live on in some way.Let us go on to the
0:12:07 > 0:12:13Telegraph, a story about Amazon, questions about whether they can
0:12:13 > 0:12:19deliver their parcels on time, really.Amazon Prime, it is supposed
0:12:19 > 0:12:23to be the super fast delivery option, you pay a premium.You pay a
0:12:23 > 0:12:28bit extra.Lots of people ordering stuff in time for Christmas, missing
0:12:28 > 0:12:32the deadline. The good news is Christmas... I have not started
0:12:32 > 0:12:39Christmas shopping yet.Nor have I! As you get closer, if people are
0:12:39 > 0:12:43going to make the deadline, there is an inquiry going, but people will
0:12:43 > 0:12:53not shop with them.I am a member of Amazon Prime.It is quite expensive.
0:12:53 > 0:12:57£79 a year and it promises delivery within two days.When it works, it
0:12:57 > 0:13:00really does work. You can do something and have it delivered the
0:13:00 > 0:13:06same day if you order early enough, if you think of it as a saving of
0:13:06 > 0:13:11your own time, even if you any charge yourself the minimum wage,
0:13:11 > 0:13:16£79 is a day off work, isn't it? It saves you so much because you do not
0:13:16 > 0:13:23need to use your own time. But it is not working.We should go back to
0:13:23 > 0:13:27traditional shopping perhaps.If you want to be sure, go and buy it
0:13:27 > 0:13:35yourself.Go into a shop.What kind of concept is that? Let us end with
0:13:35 > 0:13:38Strictly, we started with Brexit, ending with Strictly, the winner,
0:13:38 > 0:13:50the start of Holby City, Joe McFadden. Are you a fan?I am not.
0:13:50 > 0:13:55From what I can tell, I had it on the television last night, I did see
0:13:55 > 0:14:02a bit...You had it on but you were not watching?Two screams. He looked
0:14:02 > 0:14:07very surprised. A good sign, it is not just about whether you are a fan
0:14:07 > 0:14:10favourite in terms of how popular you are before you do it, not the
0:14:10 > 0:14:22best dancer...I watch it vicariously through Goggle Box.
0:14:22 > 0:14:27Brexit to Strictly, you said as if it was a non sequitur, but if
0:14:27 > 0:14:31Theresa May and the Cabinet could get but she and right, put on the
0:14:31 > 0:14:35right costumes, Brexit would happen more easily. There is a lot to be
0:14:35 > 0:14:39learned for choosing the moment, the rhythm, the steps.I am loving the
0:14:39 > 0:14:46analogy!It is all about intelligent thinking.I have a vision of Theresa
0:14:46 > 0:14:52May and Jean-Claude Juncker on Strictly together.Wonderful.What
0:14:52 > 0:15:03would they dance?The tanker. Something slinky.Theresa and Boris.
0:15:03 > 0:15:10Fiery!The oldest winner, 42, the oldest winner of Strictly.That
0:15:10 > 0:15:17sounds quite young.It does to me. Debbie McGee, 59, one of the
0:15:17 > 0:15:21finalists, she has really been showing her stripes. She has
0:15:21 > 0:15:27actually been showing everything! She has been brilliant. It has been
0:15:27 > 0:15:35a really good year for the oldies.I cannot believe you said... You
0:15:35 > 0:15:39hinted he might be 59! I could not believe that is true. So good to
0:15:39 > 0:15:47have you with us. Thank you, Shyama and Katy. That is it from The
0:15:47 > 0:15:52Papers. We take a look at tomorrow's front pages every evening on BBC
0:15:52 > 0:15:57News, at 10:40pm. Goodbye to my guests.