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0:00:17 > 0:00:20Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be
0:00:20 > 0:00:21bringing us tomorrow.
0:00:21 > 0:00:23With me are Henry Mance, political correspondent
0:00:23 > 0:00:25at the Financial Times and Deborah Haynes, defence editor
0:00:25 > 0:00:33at the Times.
0:00:33 > 0:00:37Lovely to have you both. Let us remind you what the front pages look
0:00:37 > 0:00:37like.
0:00:37 > 0:00:40The Times leads on comments by a government minister about plans
0:00:40 > 0:00:43to tax internet giants if they don't help combat terrorism.
0:00:43 > 0:00:46There's also a colourful picture of Eddie the Eagle and fans ahead
0:00:46 > 0:00:48of London's New Year's Day Parade.
0:00:48 > 0:00:51The Observer takes a closer look at the fallout from Lord Adonis'
0:00:51 > 0:00:59resignation and the Labour Peer's call for Chris Grayling to resign.
0:00:59 > 0:01:02The Mail on Sunday reports on plans for so-called unpaid border guards
0:01:02 > 0:01:04at ports and airports.
0:01:04 > 0:01:07It also shows Rod Stewart modelling an interesting choice of knitwear
0:01:07 > 0:01:10when he turned up to support his beloved team Celtic
0:01:10 > 0:01:16earlier this evening.
0:01:16 > 0:01:19The Telegraph's top story focuses on retailers' plans to get around
0:01:19 > 0:01:21the government's ban on credit card fees.
0:01:21 > 0:01:25The Sunday Express leads on plans for the over 75s to get a new super
0:01:25 > 0:01:32vaccine to help combat the flu.
0:01:32 > 0:01:39The Sunday Mirror has the headline, birth of hope, the story of a
0:01:39 > 0:01:46newborn baby boy who was the brainchild of one of the victims of
0:01:46 > 0:01:55the bombing in May. Let us start off with the Sunday Times. Do you want
0:01:55 > 0:01:59to kick us off, Deborah?They have an interesting interview with Ben
0:01:59 > 0:02:05Wallace, Security Minister. He is talking about trying to think of new
0:02:05 > 0:02:11ways to make tech companies comply more with the police and security
0:02:11 > 0:02:14services in the fight against terrorists. We know that online, as
0:02:14 > 0:02:20much as the real world, is a battle space. The government has
0:02:20 > 0:02:23repeatedly, Theresa May has repeatedly been calling on companies
0:02:23 > 0:02:29like Google, Facebook to do more, to take extreme material off-line. And
0:02:29 > 0:02:34also not provide a safe haven for terrorists to communicate using
0:02:34 > 0:02:41encrypted apps. He has come up with this idea that they should either do
0:02:41 > 0:02:47more to help the security services or face some kind of tax penalty. It
0:02:47 > 0:02:51is not clear how it will actually work or whether it will have any
0:02:51 > 0:02:57effect. The tech companies do have this balance between privacy and
0:02:57 > 0:03:03security. The fact is there is a big concern that if you give a backdoor
0:03:03 > 0:03:09to encrypted messaging apps then it could be abused as much as it could
0:03:09 > 0:03:14be useful. It is a difficult problem. Mr Wallace says that the
0:03:14 > 0:03:21whole issue of that technology and the Internet being used by
0:03:21 > 0:03:25terrorists is what keeps him up at night. He says we are more
0:03:25 > 0:03:28vulnerable than at any point in the last 100 years. Really underlining
0:03:28 > 0:03:33the problem.Happy tech giants taken much action since people started
0:03:33 > 0:03:39talking about this -- have the tech giants?They said has been a slight
0:03:39 > 0:03:44change, not as much of their would have liked. They are taking
0:03:44 > 0:03:49Westminster seriously. It all seems like a small dispute far away. The
0:03:49 > 0:03:53difficulty is taxing them. The Treasury knows how difficult it is
0:03:53 > 0:03:57to get Internet companies to pay out, their business models are not
0:03:57 > 0:04:01like previous business models. Their bases are often overseas. He is
0:04:01 > 0:04:07hoping for some kind of windfall tax. If he has a real idea of how
0:04:07 > 0:04:11you extract hundreds of millions of pounds from Apple and Google, he
0:04:11 > 0:04:15needs to talk to the Treasury who have not been able to crack this.I
0:04:15 > 0:04:20suppose technology has been moving so fast. It is leaving people who
0:04:20 > 0:04:24are trying to fight, people taking advantage of the Internet, and that
0:04:24 > 0:04:31global audience. They cannot keep up with things.What he is saying is
0:04:31 > 0:04:34that the government, because they cannot access these sites and
0:04:34 > 0:04:38services like what's up, they are having to invest in human
0:04:38 > 0:04:43surveillance, which is really expensive.There is a place for
0:04:43 > 0:04:48that.He is saying hundreds of millions of pounds. That seems like
0:04:48 > 0:04:52a large estimate for additional costs. If you are a tech company you
0:04:52 > 0:04:56are saying that this is the bill that is costing you. Let's break it
0:04:56 > 0:05:01down. I am sure they would have some questions around that. In all sorts
0:05:01 > 0:05:05of ways these tech companies have broken the way that policy is set up
0:05:05 > 0:05:11and it will take regulators and lawmakers used to scramble to put
0:05:11 > 0:05:17together a system on tax, on legal compliance...Do you think that is
0:05:17 > 0:05:21the way to do it or should they be pushing on with the technology side,
0:05:21 > 0:05:25the algorithms, do you think taxing them is really going to have any
0:05:25 > 0:05:30effect? These are huge companies. They bring in a lot of money.When
0:05:30 > 0:05:34Google was fined billions by the European Commission on competition
0:05:34 > 0:05:40grounds their shareholders have barely blinked. It is clear that
0:05:40 > 0:05:43they are such profitable companies with enormous growth trajectories
0:05:43 > 0:05:50that they can withstand major hits. The government is not going to ban
0:05:50 > 0:05:53WhatsApp because it is such a popular service. This looks a very
0:05:53 > 0:05:58strong language, but without a clearly thought out plan for UK
0:05:58 > 0:06:05next.Ben Wallace, to pick up on that description of it," just
0:06:05 > 0:06:10because they sit on beanbags were T-shirts it does not mean they are
0:06:10 > 0:06:13not ruthless profiteers" and how they are quite willing to sell
0:06:13 > 0:06:20private details to private companies but not to give to the government.I
0:06:20 > 0:06:23don't to ask you, you don't to comment, but do you think the
0:06:23 > 0:06:27government should have access to our private messages and what have you,
0:06:27 > 0:06:33or should there be some form of system of checks in place? What are
0:06:33 > 0:06:39your thoughts?There is already a system in place. In the wake of
0:06:39 > 0:06:44Edward Snowden there has been a whole raft of new procedures put in
0:06:44 > 0:06:49place to ensure there is no misuse of the powers that the security
0:06:49 > 0:06:54services have, but I kind of think it is such a difficult problem and
0:06:54 > 0:07:00there is a real concern about whether it is actually feasible. If
0:07:00 > 0:07:04you create a backdoor for apps like WhatsApp, then the bad guys will
0:07:04 > 0:07:12just go to different methods. It is an impossible problem. But I kind of
0:07:12 > 0:07:17think, given the situation we are in, given the scale of the threat,
0:07:17 > 0:07:20the more capability that the security services have to tackle the
0:07:20 > 0:07:28problem be better.Let us move to the Observer and calls for Chris
0:07:28 > 0:07:33Grayling to step down.It is always risky calling for someone to quit in
0:07:33 > 0:07:39politics. If they do not quit you look a bit silly. Jonas, a former
0:07:39 > 0:07:44advisor on infrastructure to Theresa May's government, he resigned on
0:07:44 > 0:07:47Friday -- Lord Adonis. He said Chris Grayling should be next. Chris
0:07:47 > 0:07:51Grayling to the decision in November that allows the companies that
0:07:51 > 0:07:55operate East Coast Main Line to exit their contract three years early. In
0:07:55 > 0:07:58those three years they were supposed to pay about £2 billion to the
0:07:58 > 0:08:02government. He is saying that money is at risk. Taxpayers will not get
0:08:02 > 0:08:07that money that the train operators have promised. Greyling is the man
0:08:07 > 0:08:12who should carry the can because he had another option, that was that
0:08:12 > 0:08:16when Lord Adonis was a minister he could sit at their public company --
0:08:16 > 0:08:19Chris Grayling. It is part of a broader battle over Brexit and how
0:08:19 > 0:08:24much public money is available. This will strike a chord with some
0:08:24 > 0:08:28commuters, people fed up with the train companies, and people in the
0:08:28 > 0:08:32last election thought the whole system could do with a massive
0:08:32 > 0:08:37shakeup and renationalisation.What do you make of him saying this now?
0:08:37 > 0:08:45He would say it, wouldn't he? Given that he is a former Labour minister
0:08:45 > 0:08:52and he is anti-Brexit. He is using maximum effect. He is calling for
0:08:52 > 0:08:56the transport secretary to resign. He is really critical of him.
0:08:56 > 0:09:03Linking it all in. There is this quote about how it is of a peace
0:09:03 > 0:09:07with him being a radical Brexiteer to whom everything is subordinate to
0:09:07 > 0:09:13hide right ideology. Linking this whole decision of giving the money
0:09:13 > 0:09:16to Railway companies to him being there is a radical Brexiteer. He is
0:09:16 > 0:09:20making the most of this platform, making the most of this opportunity
0:09:20 > 0:09:24to head the government.The best time for him to be talking. Moving
0:09:24 > 0:09:30to the Mail on Sunday. Dad's army. My kids loved it. This is a
0:09:30 > 0:09:37different take on it.It is for the 21st century. Capturing jihadis in
0:09:37 > 0:09:42small airfields across the UK. There is a serious side to this story, the
0:09:42 > 0:09:49UK has lots of access points which the Border Force isn't strong enough
0:09:49 > 0:09:54to look after individually to check who is coming in, are they people
0:09:54 > 0:09:59who fought in Syria, are they illegal immigrants, without
0:09:59 > 0:10:03increasing the budget to much you could address this by having
0:10:03 > 0:10:06volunteers sign up for the Border Force, as they already do for some
0:10:06 > 0:10:10police forces around the country, special constables, could we have a
0:10:10 > 0:10:15special Border Force? They are going to trial it. I don't think the Dad's
0:10:15 > 0:10:19Army label is the one they were going for. They have run into
0:10:19 > 0:10:24scepticism. Unions are like it MPs don't like it, people would rather,
0:10:24 > 0:10:28when it comes to securing a Borders pressed Brexit, they want Pockley
0:10:28 > 0:10:32trained and paid people doing that job -- securing our borders.Would
0:10:32 > 0:10:37you be happy with volunteer securing the Borders and watching who is
0:10:37 > 0:10:43coming in and policing at all?To be honest with you, there is a
0:10:43 > 0:10:46capability review going on at the moment in the government which is
0:10:46 > 0:10:51looking at everything to do with security and our security
0:10:51 > 0:10:57capabilities, it includes border protection. It does kind of sound to
0:10:57 > 0:11:01me as if they obviously have a problem, there are a lot of points,
0:11:01 > 0:11:07they do not have the staff to do it themselves, they are thinking it
0:11:07 > 0:11:11worked with police having a special constables, so surely someone is
0:11:11 > 0:11:15better than no-one, so long as they are vetted properly. It would be
0:11:15 > 0:11:19strange if they did not that these people. You could have potential
0:11:19 > 0:11:25jihadists welcoming more jihadists in, which would not be ideal. To me
0:11:25 > 0:11:29it seems, it is a signal that they are stressed and need more
0:11:29 > 0:11:35resources.Let us move to the Sunday Telegraph, credit card fees, it is
0:11:35 > 0:11:42set to backfire on the shoppers. Eventually we will pay.There is no
0:11:42 > 0:11:47such thing as a free lunch. If you tell companies they cannot charge X
0:11:47 > 0:11:52of credit card they find another way to get money. A lot of people who
0:11:52 > 0:11:56have used the Internet to buy tickets or make purchases will think
0:11:56 > 0:12:00it is a bit excessive how much is charged for using a credit card
0:12:00 > 0:12:04instead of a debit card. That is where the anti- Kenyan and that is
0:12:04 > 0:12:08where the government came in to say you cannot use those fees any more.
0:12:08 > 0:12:13The question is whether everybody should pay a little bit more for the
0:12:13 > 0:12:17price of a ticket or their shopping to cover that cost that the company
0:12:17 > 0:12:21incurs the using a credit card and what is a shame is that they could
0:12:21 > 0:12:25not introduce a reasonable fee for a credit card. Why could it not be a
0:12:25 > 0:12:31tendency instead of £3.50.They will get that money somewhere. They are
0:12:31 > 0:12:37bankers. They will recoup it. Got to balance the books. New Year
0:12:37 > 0:12:41party-goers, let us dampen the party spirit, facing strikes and storms.
0:12:41 > 0:12:52Storm Dylan. Yes. It is a classic music weather warning. There will be
0:12:52 > 0:12:56rail disruption for south-western Railway over the 24 hour walkout.
0:12:56 > 0:13:01Revellers will struggle to get home, potentially. Obviously there is
0:13:01 > 0:13:06Storm Dylan blowing around the country. There are apparently four
0:13:06 > 0:13:11weather warning is, predicted winds of up to 80 mph. Edinburgh
0:13:11 > 0:13:15celebrations will still continue, despite the threat of wind. That is
0:13:15 > 0:13:22good to hear. We are looking at the Ben Wallace interview earlier, that
0:13:22 > 0:13:25was talking about the security threat, not only do you have weather
0:13:25 > 0:13:29and rail, but there is a need to keep a vigilant, because the threat
0:13:29 > 0:13:34is real.We forgot the motorways. If you are on the roads as well. Just
0:13:34 > 0:13:40add to the list. Back to the Sunday Times, very quickly. Mum's names to
0:13:40 > 0:13:47be put on wedding certificates. Why haven't they been on All this Time?
0:13:47 > 0:13:52I cannot believe I never questioned it was there. It is so sexist.What
0:13:52 > 0:14:00do you think of this, Henry?Nobody is against this idea. Vote people on
0:14:00 > 0:14:05the right and the left are saying this makes absolutely no sense to
0:14:05 > 0:14:13have a gender to vision on marriage -- both people. The wedding
0:14:13 > 0:14:18certificate only has the father's name and occupation.It is
0:14:18 > 0:14:25ludicrous. A step forward. We are forgetting that. OK. Deborah and
0:14:25 > 0:14:29Henry, thank you so much. Have a lovely new years, whatever you are
0:14:29 > 0:14:35up to. Avoid the Rose, do not go to parties. Thank you for having us,
0:14:35 > 0:14:44joining us for the papers. Coming up next it is the Travel Show.