0:00:21 > 0:00:31An empty newsroom but a very full studio here! Hello, and welcome to
0:00:31 > 0:00:35our look at what The Papers will be bringing you tomorrow.
0:00:35 > 0:00:37With me are Kate Andrews, News Editor at the Institute
0:00:37 > 0:00:39of Economic Affairs and Ned Simons, Assistant political
0:00:39 > 0:00:40editor at HuffPost UK.
0:00:40 > 0:00:43It's great to see you both, happy New Year. You have just returned
0:00:43 > 0:00:47from the US and you are nursing a hangover from New Year's Eve! It's
0:00:47 > 0:00:53good to see you both, and I'm glad you are both looking so well! The
0:00:53 > 0:00:58Financial Times says...
0:00:58 > 0:00:59that the UK
0:00:59 > 0:01:01is looking to join a Pacific trade group after Brexit.
0:01:01 > 0:01:03Tomorrow's Metro leads on the man jailed after
0:01:03 > 0:01:04killing his third partner.
0:01:04 > 0:01:07Theodore Johnson's last victim had endured his violence for decades.
0:01:07 > 0:01:09The I criticises the Transport Secretary Chris Grayling,
0:01:09 > 0:01:12who was on an official visit to Qatar as rail passengers saw
0:01:12 > 0:01:14the highest rise to fares in five years.
0:01:14 > 0:01:16The Telegraph's lead story - the NHS tells hospitals to cancel
0:01:16 > 0:01:18non-urgent operations to cope with a flu outbreak.
0:01:18 > 0:01:21The Daily Express reports on thousands of foreign women coming
0:01:21 > 0:01:24to the UK to have babies - health tourism that could be costing
0:01:24 > 0:01:34the NHS £16 million.
0:01:44 > 0:01:47The Daily Mirror highlighting pressures on the health service with
0:01:47 > 0:01:51some children's teeth in worse shape than those living in the developing
0:01:51 > 0:01:56world. And with a dazzling picture of the first super mean of 2018, as
0:01:56 > 0:02:02its orbit brings our heavenly companion extra close to us...
0:02:02 > 0:02:08Let's begin with the Telegraph, the NHS tells hospitals to cancel all
0:02:08 > 0:02:12routine operations. It is winter, the NHS are hugely overburdened at
0:02:12 > 0:02:17this time of year but it is particularly bad this year?It is a
0:02:17 > 0:02:23huge story, to cancel all nonemergency operations, that's
0:02:23 > 0:02:26about 50,000 operations until at least February, with senior
0:02:26 > 0:02:30consultant saying that patients are being treated in third world
0:02:30 > 0:02:33conditions among mass overcrowding. There are some important points
0:02:33 > 0:02:38here. We need to scrap the idea that the NHS is the envy of the world, we
0:02:38 > 0:02:42have consultants coming out saying it feels like a third World country
0:02:42 > 0:02:44but in this international comparisons, when you look at the
0:02:44 > 0:02:49NHS, it tends to rank in the bottom third internationally. If we are to
0:02:49 > 0:03:00fix this problem we need
0:03:04 > 0:03:06honest and serious conversations about the NHS. If you are to
0:03:06 > 0:03:08continue to have a system that is fundamentally based on rationing,
0:03:08 > 0:03:11that's not really what they do in the rest of Europe, you will run
0:03:11 > 0:03:13into crucial situations where 50,000 people will be denied operations
0:03:13 > 0:03:16that are crucial, a lot of these people who are needing hip or knee
0:03:16 > 0:03:18operations are in a lot of pain. Weir there are some specific things
0:03:18 > 0:03:20going on here. People are taking taxis increasingly to hospitals,
0:03:20 > 0:03:24they will have two ban the rules on mixed sex roles, that is what people
0:03:24 > 0:03:28like because of the pressure on the NHS, there's always a winter crisis,
0:03:28 > 0:03:32it doesn't make it any less serious, the fact we get it every year, and
0:03:32 > 0:03:38it doesn't seem to be getting better.It would be wonderful if we
0:03:38 > 0:03:41didn't have a crisis, looking at Europe, Germany, Switzerland, we
0:03:41 > 0:03:45aren't getting the same stories from these countries because the hospital
0:03:45 > 0:03:49systems operate better for patients. Poor doctors in A&E have to put them
0:03:49 > 0:03:56in quarters, what a horrible situation for them.It is difficult
0:03:56 > 0:04:00for the NHS, managers and officials for many years have been saying that
0:04:00 > 0:04:04they are not getting the funding that they need. Does there need to
0:04:04 > 0:04:10be a more radical thought process going into how you deal with the NHS
0:04:10 > 0:04:16and fund it?The funding matters, for a number of coalition years
0:04:16 > 0:04:23there was a funding freeze. And it is kicking in. I'm sure that as part
0:04:23 > 0:04:28of what we are seeing now. Although the freeze has ended, what we are
0:04:28 > 0:04:34seeing coming through as a result of those decisions.Funding has
0:04:34 > 0:04:37increased but at a different proportion. I'm open-minded about
0:04:37 > 0:04:45where we want to make our decisions, maybe we should cut grandstanding
0:04:45 > 0:04:48budgets but fundamentally, ranking in the bottom third internationally
0:04:48 > 0:04:56is not because you are a quid short but because you need to change
0:04:56 > 0:04:59demographics and look at the system as a whole.But there is a not
0:04:59 > 0:05:09residual respect and belief in that the NHS is a good thing. The polling
0:05:09 > 0:05:14figure is normally pretty high? People love the NHS for good
0:05:14 > 0:05:22reasons. It should be allowed to be criticised.But it doesn't stop
0:05:22 > 0:05:28criticism, that is key.I think it is extremely difficult to criticise
0:05:28 > 0:05:31the NHS, if you look at our politicians, they say it is the envy
0:05:31 > 0:05:36of the world, but then we have stories like this with patients
0:05:36 > 0:05:39getting hurt. The principle of the NHS is extremely important, free
0:05:39 > 0:05:51access at the point of use, and most of Europe has passed this.I'm not
0:05:51 > 0:05:58sure that it is right if we don't dare criticise the NHS.I think
0:05:58 > 0:06:01politicians are terrified to criticise it. They are the ones who
0:06:01 > 0:06:17will fundamentally change it.A story from the express, four months
0:06:17 > 0:06:22and £16 million NHS rip-offs. Shockingly they do not like
0:06:22 > 0:06:27foreigners in this!Start the New Year as you need to go on!They say
0:06:27 > 0:06:32women flock to Britain, cheating the NHS out of £60 million by having
0:06:32 > 0:06:37their babies here. In my mind, so? I'm not going to begrudge a mother
0:06:37 > 0:06:42who comes into the country to have her baby for whatever reason.It may
0:06:42 > 0:06:50sound like a lot.At least 2631 in eligible foreigners had their babies
0:06:50 > 0:06:55here.The story was £1 billion being wasted every year due to missed
0:06:55 > 0:07:01appointments on the NHS. I think it is completely right that this reeks
0:07:01 > 0:07:06of an anti-immigration sentiment. £1 billion versus £16 billion, paying
0:07:06 > 0:07:11your taxes you would feel a bit resentful if someone came to take
0:07:11 > 0:07:15something for free -- £16 million. But we have a record number of Brits
0:07:15 > 0:07:21flying abroad to access health care. Health tourism has its benefits.I
0:07:21 > 0:07:28would like to see a breakdown of these numbers.Brits go abroad and
0:07:28 > 0:07:32have their operations, that would be on their front pages!There is a
0:07:32 > 0:07:39story and it is mostly about immigration and putting more into
0:07:39 > 0:07:48the system than they are taking out. Andy the Financial Times, Tories
0:07:48 > 0:07:51looking beyond Brexit, looking beyond the continent of Europe! All
0:07:51 > 0:07:58the way the Pacific Rim. Apparently that will be a big training block of
0:07:58 > 0:08:03eight, nine, 10,000 miles away?The transpacific partnership was big
0:08:03 > 0:08:07news last year, when Donald Trump famously pulled out of it. This
0:08:07 > 0:08:12initiative was led by Barack Obama, of all people. Criticism from the
0:08:12 > 0:08:19left is a little hypocritical. There was a lot of bipartisan support
0:08:19 > 0:08:22before the RB lists took over and pulled the US out of the deal. A
0:08:22 > 0:08:28quote from Barry Gardiner, he said this could be helpful but it isn't
0:08:28 > 0:08:32the main event and I think that is true. Obviously be priority for the
0:08:32 > 0:08:37UK is to get a good trade deal with the EU. This is one of the benefits
0:08:37 > 0:08:41of Brexit, when we have these negotiations going through, we can
0:08:41 > 0:08:46look beyond Europe and that is a positive thing.In the Financial
0:08:46 > 0:08:50Times, it was a Remained newspaper and still is. A little dig at the
0:08:50 > 0:08:57Daily Express earlier, maybe I am thinking too hard on this but is
0:08:57 > 0:09:01this the Financial Times saying they've had to go all the way to the
0:09:01 > 0:09:06Pacific, isn't this a ridiculous situation?I don't think it is a bad
0:09:06 > 0:09:12story for the government. The government argument is by leaving
0:09:12 > 0:09:19the EU we can strike trade deals globally. Whether it smacks of
0:09:19 > 0:09:22desperation, as Tim Farron the former Labour leader says in the FT,
0:09:22 > 0:09:26or whether it is a good idea, it shows we can do trade deals
0:09:26 > 0:09:31everywhere and the Trade Minister's quotes, he isn't saying this is what
0:09:31 > 0:09:35we are going to focus on but this is part of a package of things. It
0:09:35 > 0:09:42isn't a story that the government will be irritated about. It's a
0:09:42 > 0:09:46narrative on what they want to say. Depends on who the Brexit secretary
0:09:46 > 0:09:55is! We do only have one at the moment...Give it a week!I suspect
0:09:55 > 0:09:59the Brexit secretary will not be Chris Grayling if there is a
0:09:59 > 0:10:03reshuffle! We want to avoid bad news, and we go to extraordinary
0:10:03 > 0:10:07lengths to avoid bad news. Chris Grayling decided that he would go to
0:10:07 > 0:10:13the Middle East to avoid the bad news of the public announcement that
0:10:13 > 0:10:18yes, rail firms are going up with the biggest rise in five years.This
0:10:18 > 0:10:23announcement was always going to come today! It was a long planned
0:10:23 > 0:10:29trip, a cynic in me would say, was a long planned? Because the rail fare
0:10:29 > 0:10:33rise was long planned. But they say it's striking Brexit deals with
0:10:33 > 0:10:42Qatar...So he is the Brexit Secretary?Not inside gossip! It
0:10:42 > 0:10:48wasn't that he was on the radio or television defending it, London
0:10:48 > 0:10:58Bridge getting a nice new station, but...This is so shocking and
0:10:58 > 0:11:01incompetent, there are strong arguments for what happened today.
0:11:01 > 0:11:08If you have a system like ones in Europe with more taxation, you have
0:11:08 > 0:11:11people on minimum wage and people who are poor topping up those who
0:11:11 > 0:11:18tend to be richer.What about those you were lauding minutes ago, higher
0:11:18 > 0:11:22taxes!In some countries yes but in others know. But my bigger point
0:11:22 > 0:11:27here is that you had to look at whether or not it is a regressive
0:11:27 > 0:11:33move and if you want those on the minimum wage topping up commuters. I
0:11:33 > 0:11:40don't think it is a hard argument to make.Particularly in the political
0:11:40 > 0:11:44sense. It's strong ground for Labour, their policy of
0:11:44 > 0:11:48rationalising that the franchise has come up. Is the policy Jeremy Corbyn
0:11:48 > 0:11:52has adopted but it helps with the move to the south of England. There
0:11:52 > 0:11:56are a lot of middle-class voters who have moved out of London and now
0:11:56 > 0:11:59live in the Home Counties and Sussex commuting into London, they would
0:11:59 > 0:12:04not be natural Labour voters but they care about commuting prices.
0:12:04 > 0:12:06Great territory for Corbyn and labour and great for the government
0:12:06 > 0:12:13not to be ahead of this going into today.And Labour have a free pass,
0:12:13 > 0:12:16in a sense, saying they will renationalise the railways and
0:12:16 > 0:12:19prices will come down. They aren't talking about how costs will go up
0:12:19 > 0:12:23for a lot of people but they got away with it.In America they would
0:12:23 > 0:12:30say that the optics are not very good. It does look bad. But finally,
0:12:30 > 0:12:39the front page of The Guardian. The Department exaggerated
0:12:39 > 0:12:42qualifications for a university post. He taught undergrads at
0:12:42 > 0:12:48Harvard and Cambridge but did not have a post there. That has meant
0:12:48 > 0:12:53that disappointment -- this appointment is looking we?I think
0:12:53 > 0:12:58The Guardian are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Saying yes, I
0:12:58 > 0:13:02taught there, not strip the academic. It doesn't look like he's
0:13:02 > 0:13:05trying to hide anything that they are not happy about his appointment.
0:13:05 > 0:13:10They clearly think that Toby Young is too extreme. For me, this
0:13:10 > 0:13:13fundamentally comes down to the question of choice. Toby Young was
0:13:13 > 0:13:17at the forefront of bringing in three schools can he founded the
0:13:17 > 0:13:23first in the UK, I believe. He runs the free schools network, and he has
0:13:23 > 0:13:26been at the forefront of putting toys in front of parents to send
0:13:26 > 0:13:30their kids to the right school. It has proven successful and people are
0:13:30 > 0:13:35nervous about that.He has been forthright in his qualifications but
0:13:35 > 0:13:42the point is... The Department for Education has not.Also, another
0:13:42 > 0:13:52surprising thing about Toby Young, something, I don't suppose "Lavish"
0:13:52 > 0:13:56things that he has said, some of the things that he has said about women
0:13:56 > 0:14:01and gay people -- laddish. It's interesting someone totally
0:14:01 > 0:14:07justified in writing strong columns, but some of the things he has
0:14:07 > 0:14:11tweeted and safe, makes you wonder whether it is the right choice.We
0:14:11 > 0:14:16have two ended there. Thank you to both of you, James and Kate. That's
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