0:00:00 > 0:00:06the profession than joining it.
0:00:16 > 0:00:19Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be
0:00:19 > 0:00:20bringing us tomorrow.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22With me are Jessica Elgot, Political Reporter with
0:00:22 > 0:00:25the Guardian and Henry Zeffman, Political Reporter at The Times.
0:00:25 > 0:00:29The Telegraph covers an agreement between the UK and France over
0:00:33 > 0:00:36Apologies that we are so laid, Chelsea and Norwich couldn't get
0:00:36 > 0:00:40their act together in 90 minutes!
0:00:40 > 0:00:41The Telegraph covers an agreement
0:00:41 > 0:00:44between the UK and France over migrants at the border in Calais,
0:00:44 > 0:00:48with Theresa May expected to pay up to £44 million to keep police checks
0:00:48 > 0:00:49on the other side of the Channel.
0:00:49 > 0:00:53With the same story, the Daily Mail says its 'Le Stitch Up' and also
0:00:53 > 0:00:55claims the offer to loan Britain the Bayeux Tapestry is designed
0:00:55 > 0:00:58to sweeten the Calais pay-out deal.
0:00:58 > 0:01:00The Times quotes the Government's spending watchdog saying billions
0:01:00 > 0:01:03of extra pounds are being spent on private finance initiatives, with
0:01:03 > 0:01:04little benefit for the taxpayer.
0:01:04 > 0:01:06The Guardian also leads with the controversy over PFIs,
0:01:06 > 0:01:09saying the projects can cost up to 40% more than using
0:01:09 > 0:01:13government cash.
0:01:13 > 0:01:15The I headlines a pensions shock for high earners,
0:01:15 > 0:01:18as new rules take effect ahead for the tax return deadline
0:01:18 > 0:01:25at the end of this month.
0:01:25 > 0:01:28While the Financial Times says Goldman Sachs is being pressured
0:01:28 > 0:01:30into changing its fixed-income and commodities trading business,
0:01:30 > 0:01:38after a 50% drop in revenues.
0:01:38 > 0:01:41And finally The Sun claims a former SAS soldier who helped free hostages
0:01:41 > 0:01:43at the Iranian Embassy siege in 1980, has been left homeless
0:01:43 > 0:01:47after the local council failed to house him.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50It's a right old mix of front page stories our guests will be
0:01:50 > 0:01:53checking out tonight...
0:01:53 > 0:01:58One story in particular features, and most of the front pages, and
0:01:58 > 0:02:03that is Calais. A look at the front pages of the Telegraph. The big
0:02:03 > 0:02:10picture is of the Duchess of Cambridge, on a visit to Great
0:02:10 > 0:02:14Ormond Street Hospital there. She is having a high five with the little
0:02:14 > 0:02:20heart patients. The top story, £45 million to keep the border at
0:02:20 > 0:02:25Calais. Jessica, that is a lot of money and people will be upset about
0:02:25 > 0:02:30that?It is, you can see that The Daily Telegraph has that in. The
0:02:30 > 0:02:37leading Brexiteers there, giving more money to France is absurd, they
0:02:37 > 0:02:41say, they suggest it will go on to this Brexit bill. I'm not sure that
0:02:41 > 0:02:49is how Google works but Theresa May, the former Home Secretary, she knows
0:02:49 > 0:02:54how important the agreement is. She knows... She probably thinks £44
0:02:54 > 0:02:58million is the price worth paying to make this a French problem rather
0:02:58 > 0:03:03than a British problem.One suspects that Emmanuel Macron could have come
0:03:03 > 0:03:07up with any figure and they would have had to have said yes. Have
0:03:07 > 0:03:13migrants that side rather than the side?It was important, she was the
0:03:13 > 0:03:17longest serving Home Secretary ever, she spent a lot of time dealing with
0:03:17 > 0:03:21issues like this. From her perspective yes, it is a lot of
0:03:21 > 0:03:25money but for the government, any amount of money is the right amount
0:03:25 > 0:03:29to keep that problem on the French side of the border.The
0:03:29 > 0:03:33self-declared boys of Middle England, the Daily Mail... Let's see
0:03:33 > 0:03:40what they think of it. -- voice of middle England. £45 million more in
0:03:40 > 0:03:44block capitals to stop migrants at Calais. We get to borrow the Bayeux
0:03:44 > 0:03:49tapestry as a sweetener but only if the local murder agrees with it. --
0:03:49 > 0:03:59but only if the local mayor agrees. But this is the prize that is to be
0:03:59 > 0:04:02paid, even if people are not impressed?The Daily Mail,
0:04:02 > 0:04:06consistently the most supportive of Theresa May, championed her early in
0:04:06 > 0:04:09the leadership campaign when Boris Johnson was the front runner. They
0:04:09 > 0:04:13are not happy. This is the kind of thing that they have campaigned on
0:04:13 > 0:04:18for a long time, it was assigned to Theresa May that if there are more
0:04:18 > 0:04:23capitulations or stitch ups, they are willing to say that the
0:04:23 > 0:04:29government has gone too far.With the Daily Mail have been happy if
0:04:29 > 0:04:34Theresa May said no and the border came back to Kent?Am sure that what
0:04:34 > 0:04:40is Theresa May would say...You can imagine the headlines, all of the
0:04:40 > 0:04:44border posts had to be moved from Calais to Dover, then you spend
0:04:44 > 0:04:48millions of your own money on setting up new systems over here.
0:04:48 > 0:04:52You cannot see that the Daily Mail would have reacted well to that
0:04:52 > 0:04:57either. Theresa May may think it is a short-term hit but beyond that...
0:04:57 > 0:05:04What game is the Daily Mail plane? What are they trying to say? That
0:05:04 > 0:05:09she should have accepted a lower figure? I don't understand.I guess
0:05:09 > 0:05:22they are saying, are we paying 45 million quid for the bare tapestry.
0:05:22 > 0:05:26That is the sweetener that they have given us. -- the Bayeux tapestry.
0:05:26 > 0:05:34Maybe it is good PR play by Emmanuel Macron. He has an eye for a stunt
0:05:34 > 0:05:41like that...He didn't have to give it!And it was a nice story in The
0:05:41 > 0:05:47Times but the really important thing is this border. That's what she will
0:05:47 > 0:05:52want to do when she sees Emmanuel Macron tomorrow.Plus onto The
0:05:52 > 0:06:05Times... Henry, this one is for you. The Times newspaper, billions lost
0:06:05 > 0:06:10by taxpayer on wasteful PFI contracts, public money being used
0:06:10 > 0:06:15for private initiatives, we know all about Carillion and that, it's a
0:06:15 > 0:06:22sign of the whole debate. And PFI in the news as a result?There are
0:06:22 > 0:06:25extraordinary figures from the National Audit Office, the
0:06:25 > 0:06:29government spending watchdog. They say that they cannot find evidence
0:06:29 > 0:06:40to back up the Treasury 's gains. With an infrastructure programme,
0:06:40 > 0:06:44that they pay back of a long period. They cannot find evidence to support
0:06:44 > 0:06:50claims that it is cheaper than borrowing itself. It is worth noting
0:06:50 > 0:06:56that Theresa May may get some flak for this but the report finds that
0:06:56 > 0:07:0085% of payments made under PFI last year were procurement decisions made
0:07:00 > 0:07:05more than ten years ago. It really is a story about a load of public
0:07:05 > 0:07:08policy decisions made by Gordon Brown, first in the Treasury and
0:07:08 > 0:07:16then when you move to 10 Downing St. Yafai is not as popular with the
0:07:16 > 0:07:19government any more.But the rent on these buildings, the government and
0:07:19 > 0:07:30what the tax payer pays, it is comparable to the cost of the build?
0:07:30 > 0:07:34The cost of publicly financing projects can be 40% higher than
0:07:34 > 0:07:38relying solely upon government money. If that was a bank offering
0:07:38 > 0:07:45you those kinds of differences, you would always turn it down. The
0:07:45 > 0:07:52figures are quite astonishing. £10.3 billion, the annual charges for
0:07:52 > 0:07:582016-17 for those deals. It is money that is effectively going on
0:07:58 > 0:08:08improving health services and schools in those companies.John
0:08:08 > 0:08:10Major, Tony Blair, it was really extended. You would argue that you
0:08:10 > 0:08:17would not get certain structures built if you did not have a PR five.
0:08:17 > 0:08:25And in The Guardian, residents face a huge bill to remove cladding. This
0:08:25 > 0:08:31is people living near or at the Grenfell Tower?It is extraordinary,
0:08:31 > 0:08:35these residents are living in a building where they have the same
0:08:35 > 0:08:42kind of flammable panels as the Grenfell Tower. The property owner,
0:08:42 > 0:08:50where they all own those flats, they need to spend £2 million to replace
0:08:50 > 0:08:54the cladding but he will give them the bill of £31,000 each in order to
0:08:54 > 0:09:00make the flats they own say. It is extraordinary.They are private
0:09:00 > 0:09:11flats?Yes, at the moment, because the flats are unsafe, and the
0:09:11 > 0:09:16flammable cladding, there are fire wardens patrolling there. 24 hours a
0:09:16 > 0:09:24day, at the cost of £4000 a week. The government will have to do
0:09:24 > 0:09:32something...It is a flabbergasting story. Sajid Javid, the housing
0:09:32 > 0:09:37Secretary, said that the government told the owner of the freehold five
0:09:37 > 0:09:40months ago that the cladding was unsafe. Imagine being a resident,
0:09:40 > 0:09:45having seen that same cladding go up in flames at Grenfell not so long
0:09:45 > 0:09:50before. You would be petrified. For many of them, it is more than they
0:09:50 > 0:09:53earn in a year. As just said, surely the government will have to pay
0:09:53 > 0:10:03here.It would be interesting, they are not going to use public money to
0:10:03 > 0:10:13bail out Korea, why would they do that for this guy? Or whoever has to
0:10:13 > 0:10:20service this block of flats. -- to bail out Carillion. This is
0:10:20 > 0:10:29basically the former Chancellor, Mr Osborne, usually they get some sort
0:10:29 > 0:10:32of nod, but that will not happen in this case. They do not like one
0:10:32 > 0:10:38another, do they?Some would say that George Osborne has a lot of
0:10:38 > 0:10:43jobs and maybe he doesn't need another one! But the two do not get
0:10:43 > 0:10:47on. As evidence by George Osborne's entry in the Evening Standard. You
0:10:47 > 0:10:51only need to look at the front pages...He hammers Theresa May
0:10:51 > 0:11:00everyday!I don't know, something tells me that George Osborne doesn't
0:11:00 > 0:11:04necessarily consider his political career to be over. If he was to join
0:11:04 > 0:11:08the House of Lords, then maybe that would put the brakes on him ever
0:11:08 > 0:11:12returning to the House of Commons. I don't know, whether this is
0:11:12 > 0:11:17something that he once?He certainly wasn't expecting anything from
0:11:17 > 0:11:22Theresa May, the woman who sacked him...In her first act as Prime
0:11:22 > 0:11:26Minister comic she didn't even let him clear out his flat! In the
0:11:26 > 0:11:30story, friends of George Osborne so that he never wanted a peerage. I
0:11:30 > 0:11:35can believe that, I wonder if he considers himself a Tory still? It's
0:11:35 > 0:11:38an extraordinary thing to say about someone who was Chancellor less than
0:11:38 > 0:11:43two years ago but his politics are so different to Theresa May. He's
0:11:43 > 0:11:47made it clear so often. He definitely does not see his career
0:11:47 > 0:11:50necessarily as being over but maybe he is looking at the French
0:11:50 > 0:11:55president, looking at Theresa May -- meeting Theresa May tomorrow and
0:11:55 > 0:12:01thinking, hmm, maybe I can be the British Macron?I don't know if the
0:12:01 > 0:12:11country would agree... If he isn't a Tory, what is he?Well, there is
0:12:11 > 0:12:17this centre ground, certainly a lot of people in Westminster think they
0:12:17 > 0:12:20fall somewhere between Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May. Whether the
0:12:20 > 0:12:25appetite for that in the countries is larger, I don't know. But I think
0:12:25 > 0:12:29Osborne is part of the bridge in the middle.Very interesting! In the
0:12:29 > 0:12:37Daily Mail, it is the demise of landmines... Landmines! Land lines!
0:12:37 > 0:12:44That would be a good thing! Can nuisance callers lead to the death
0:12:44 > 0:12:48of the landline? My mum used to call the landline, but I can talk to her
0:12:48 > 0:12:53on my mobile so it doesn't matter. Is this really what will happen, do
0:12:53 > 0:12:59you think?I do, I don't have a landline either. My mum has my
0:12:59 > 0:13:04mobile number, that is fine! But this story attributes the demise of
0:13:04 > 0:13:09the landline to nuisance telephone calls. A survey found that of $2000,
0:13:09 > 0:13:1332% had missed calls from their parents because they did not want to
0:13:13 > 0:13:18answer their landline in case it was a nuisance call.I didn't do that!
0:13:18 > 0:13:23It may be true, but the story is, why do you need them? We have mobile
0:13:23 > 0:13:31phones.The nuisance call thing influenced my decision.I don't have
0:13:31 > 0:13:36a landline but in the story, most people have missed calls from their
0:13:36 > 0:13:42parents but 5% of people said that they missed calls from a long lost
0:13:42 > 0:13:48love who may only have their landline. Maybe that is an
0:13:48 > 0:13:53incentive?So long lost that they were together before mobile phones!
0:13:53 > 0:13:59OK...! Finally. The inside of The Times newspaper, a big statue in the
0:13:59 > 0:14:08middle there. That is Baroness Thatcher. Apparently, it still does
0:14:08 > 0:14:18not have a home.Yeah...You don't care?Apparently not! They say one
0:14:18 > 0:14:21of the reasons it doesn't have a home is because it hasn't been
0:14:21 > 0:14:25rubber-stamped by Margaret Thatcher's family, the objection is
0:14:25 > 0:14:30that she does not have her famous handbag.Is that the objection?
0:14:30 > 0:14:42Apparently...Is there any reason as to why the sculptor did not put the
0:14:42 > 0:14:48handbag in?The sculpture was a freelance trust and raised a lot of
0:14:48 > 0:14:54money soon after Lady Thatcher died in 2013. Offering back they
0:14:54 > 0:14:58commissioned the sculpture. It isn't just the handbag but the family are
0:14:58 > 0:15:03anxious about the risk of it being vandalised. Even Winston Churchill,
0:15:03 > 0:15:06perhaps a less divisive figure, his statue in Parliament Square, where
0:15:06 > 0:15:13they want to put it, has repeatedly been vandalised. What is worth
0:15:13 > 0:15:22noting is she is a divisive figure but still, there isn't a statue of a
0:15:22 > 0:15:26woman in Parliament Square but that will be looked at in the coming
0:15:26 > 0:15:31years, more female statues.When the application was first submitted the
0:15:31 > 0:15:34Royal Parks Association, managing Parliament Square, they objected it
0:15:34 > 0:15:38on the grounds that it was not supported by Lady Thatcher's family.
0:15:38 > 0:15:43Was that on the grounds of possible vandalism?Yes, I think the handbag
0:15:43 > 0:15:49thing is a funny story but to me it feels like the key objection is they
0:15:49 > 0:15:54are worried that if the statue goes up in a place like Parliament
0:15:54 > 0:15:58Square, the site of a lot of demonstrations, both of us work in
0:15:58 > 0:16:03Parliament, there is usually some sort of demonstration or meeting or
0:16:03 > 0:16:09gathering in that space every day. With Margaret Thatcher, although she
0:16:09 > 0:16:12was the first female Prime Minister of this country, she is a divisive
0:16:12 > 0:16:20figure and I can imagine that a statue would be a target for vandals
0:16:20 > 0:16:26and why it could be a target in a place like that.Thank you to both
0:16:26 > 0:16:28of you. Apologies for the late start again.
0:16:28 > 0:16:31Don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online
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0:16:45 > 0:16:47Thank you Jessica Elgot and Henry Zeffman.
0:16:47 > 0:16:49Goodbye.