0:00:00 > 0:00:02immortal. The Red Devils's spirit will never die.
0:00:16 > 0:00:19Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be
0:00:19 > 0:00:21bringing us tomorrow.
0:00:21 > 0:00:25With me are Stephen Bush, Special Correspondent
0:00:25 > 0:00:27for the New Statesman, and the Deputy Political Editor
0:00:27 > 0:00:30at The Sun, Steve Hawkes.
0:00:30 > 0:00:32Welcome to you both.
0:00:32 > 0:00:38Many of tomorrow's front pages are already in.
0:00:38 > 0:00:43The FT's leaders of volatility of world stock markets complete with a
0:00:43 > 0:00:46picture of frayed nerves on Wall Street. The Guardian reports that
0:00:46 > 0:00:52Tesco may face a £4 million bill for back pay in what could become the
0:00:52 > 0:00:58UK's largest ever equal pay claim. It also has an image of so-called
0:00:58 > 0:01:02Cheddar man, dating back 10,000 years. A planned reform of the gig
0:01:02 > 0:01:08economy could lead to millions of new work is getting better rights,
0:01:08 > 0:01:10according to the i newspaper. The top story in the Metro is the
0:01:10 > 0:01:16jailing of a stalk of 26 years after he murdered his former partner. The
0:01:16 > 0:01:20Mirror features a pledge from the mother of brain-damaged Alvi Evans
0:01:20 > 0:01:26to never stop fighting to save his life. The Daily Express claims
0:01:26 > 0:01:30Britain could be forced to accept new EU regulations after Brexit.
0:01:30 > 0:01:35That's according to a new report. In the Times has a picture of the
0:01:35 > 0:01:40Falcon Heavy rocket taking off in Florida. A mixed bag of front-page
0:01:40 > 0:01:47stories. Thank you both, Stephen and Steve, for being here. Must begin
0:01:47 > 0:01:52with the FT, Europe and Asia bearing the brunt as stocks reel from
0:01:52 > 0:01:57volatilities. All day I have been hearing it as a correction and not a
0:01:57 > 0:02:03crash but wide range of repercussions for this.The Dow
0:02:03 > 0:02:08Jones index was up 567 points so this huge sell-off has already run
0:02:08 > 0:02:12its course. My view is that we are bound to see things like this
0:02:12 > 0:02:16because the stock market has been on such a boom, it's gone up 20 points
0:02:16 > 0:02:20so that will always be a correction if people get worried, is this note
0:02:20 > 0:02:26the peak, do we stop selling, and if someone does, it highlights a me two
0:02:26 > 0:02:31things. An interesting paragraph anywhere when a trader says this is
0:02:31 > 0:02:35about the economy moving off life support. People think interest rates
0:02:35 > 0:02:40will go up a lot this year. In a way that is a sign of good things
0:02:40 > 0:02:43because we are coming off life support from the credit crisis
0:02:43 > 0:02:46almost a decade ago and returning to normality. We should see it as a
0:02:46 > 0:02:51good thing that the economy is moving back into that normal cycle.
0:02:51 > 0:02:58Would you agree, Stephen?Yes, they have predicted nine out of the five
0:02:58 > 0:03:01last recessions and we know for the last decade central banks have
0:03:01 > 0:03:06created this parallel universe of big businesses. The economy appears
0:03:06 > 0:03:10to be recovering, still very low wage growth and a slight worry about
0:03:10 > 0:03:15what that means. The interesting question is, it looks as if the Dow
0:03:15 > 0:03:19Jones has recovered most of its losses. I wouldn't be surprised if
0:03:19 > 0:03:23on Friday Europe and Asia have recovered most of theirs as well.
0:03:23 > 0:03:28Interesting. Notice, we didn't start with Brexit! But we need to go to it
0:03:28 > 0:03:41now. The EU six to limit UK's access if Brexit terms are broken. We
0:03:41 > 0:03:45likely to get any more clarity on the direction we are going in?It
0:03:45 > 0:03:52seems unlikely. According to this story the EU wants a transition
0:03:52 > 0:03:55period while it negotiates the trade deals are effectively we would still
0:03:55 > 0:03:59be members of the EU although without a say. The EU is worried
0:03:59 > 0:04:04that we will start to leave without having properly left. What kind of
0:04:04 > 0:04:07think the British government has spent too much time worrying about
0:04:07 > 0:04:13the transition. A bit like, if we were a hermit crab, we would not sit
0:04:13 > 0:04:17there going, this shell is not good that Shell is not God, we would put
0:04:17 > 0:04:23on a shell and look for the next. The EU needs to stop fussing and
0:04:23 > 0:04:28think about what had once the UK to look like in 2030, 20 40. A
0:04:28 > 0:04:33long-term vision as opposed to this short-term one that we've got.Is
0:04:33 > 0:04:39this not another example of the EU flexing its muscles?It's another
0:04:39 > 0:04:44well timed leak ahead of this subcommittee meeting of the Cabinet
0:04:44 > 0:04:47tomorrow when hopefully they will spell out what kind of Brexit they
0:04:47 > 0:04:52want which is taken far too long, almost a year now, we still haven't
0:04:52 > 0:04:57set out what we want to achieve. I disagree in a way, the transition is
0:04:57 > 0:05:00important to the government because it helps them work out what they
0:05:00 > 0:05:05want to do, it gives them more time. Viewers will be happy because we are
0:05:05 > 0:05:08into the endgame in a way so hopefully in the next month in
0:05:08 > 0:05:12Brussels and London will flesh out where we are, there will be all
0:05:12 > 0:05:15manner of arguments, stories about who will do what still but I think
0:05:15 > 0:05:22we are getting there!The front page of the Daily Express claims the EU
0:05:22 > 0:05:26is still trying to rule Britain. This story was in the Telegraph last
0:05:26 > 0:05:33night, new laws that may come into force, we may have to have full
0:05:33 > 0:05:36recycling bill steering this transition period. Was it only
0:05:36 > 0:05:41yesterday, now confirmed?It was a leak obtained by the Telegraph,
0:05:41 > 0:05:46saying the EU might do this, and now they said they would.Except that we
0:05:46 > 0:05:51know that this is what transition looks like, the EU will continue to
0:05:51 > 0:05:54evolve and change and do what it once and after we leave will do what
0:05:54 > 0:05:59we want but they will be a period transition when we will still follow
0:05:59 > 0:06:02the rules. It's a bit like if you move out of a flat your flatmates
0:06:02 > 0:06:07can repaint the walls while you are still there and you don't get to
0:06:07 > 0:06:09vote on it because everyone knows that you are leaving and you won't
0:06:09 > 0:06:15be paying the rent animal. This is a product of the governments failure
0:06:15 > 0:06:19to sit down and explain what Brexit means to voters beyond saying, we
0:06:19 > 0:06:24can't talk to you about that, Brexit means Brexit, we haven't negotiated
0:06:24 > 0:06:32the end state. This stuff about the EU wanting to rule us is just not.
0:06:32 > 0:06:35There's the fear among hard-core Tory Brexiteers but they were told,
0:06:35 > 0:06:41the consequence of Theresa May dithering as such, they were told,
0:06:41 > 0:06:462019, we will take back control. Money, law and Borders, no it will
0:06:46 > 0:06:50be 2021 because of this transition phase, we have to accept everything.
0:06:50 > 0:06:56They have no say over what puzzles does because we moving out.
0:06:56 > 0:06:59Brexiteers are worried that Brussels could force the laws that we need to
0:06:59 > 0:07:03accept that might be to our disadvantage, will have no say in
0:07:03 > 0:07:12it.Ireland pushing for border deal threatens to hit Brexit talks, says
0:07:12 > 0:07:19this headline. Steve?If we have said we are coming out of the
0:07:19 > 0:07:21customs union it brings up the question of what will happen on the
0:07:21 > 0:07:27border between the North of Ireland and the South. A massive issue,
0:07:27 > 0:07:31Ireland squad we will say about it, they want reassurance that button
0:07:31 > 0:07:35won't have this hard border coming back. It keeps coming back, this
0:07:35 > 0:07:40argument. This will all hopefully be resolved soon and we can move on.
0:07:40 > 0:07:44You look at it and think, I went to the Brexit negotiations last year
0:07:44 > 0:07:49and the civil servants, in a room could sort this out easily and all
0:07:49 > 0:07:55the politicians are all arguing they feel like this.Any word to add on
0:07:55 > 0:08:01that, Stephen, or would you like to move on to the suffragettes?Ireland
0:08:01 > 0:08:06is the big unsolvable issue for Brexit. If you diverge from the EU
0:08:06 > 0:08:10you'll have a hard border. If you don't what is the point of Brexit?
0:08:10 > 0:08:14The sensible solution is that Ireland does not leave. The whole
0:08:14 > 0:08:19Ireland does not leave. Sadly Theresa May has lost a majority and
0:08:19 > 0:08:23has to deal with the DUP and they will never accept it. The only
0:08:23 > 0:08:29sensible solution is either, we don't leave order hard border. --
0:08:29 > 0:08:36either we don't leave or we have a hard border.Theresa May has been
0:08:36 > 0:08:38asked to consider posthumously pardoning those suffragettes who
0:08:38 > 0:08:44committed crimes in pursuit of the vote. I wonder if this is right.
0:08:44 > 0:08:47Perhaps the suffragettes wanted to get arrested to draw attention to
0:08:47 > 0:08:55their cause. They may not want to be pardoned.I will plug my magazine
0:08:55 > 0:08:59and said there was a great these by Caroline creat or Peres about this.
0:08:59 > 0:09:06-- is a great piece in our magazine. She says the government was wrong to
0:09:06 > 0:09:11imprison them. The government did do something wrong. Maybe a formal
0:09:11 > 0:09:16apology but this idea that you pardon somebody. I think if I was
0:09:16 > 0:09:19descended from a suffragette I would be quite proud to be descended from
0:09:19 > 0:09:23someone who had been imprisoned for breaking an unjust law. I think a
0:09:23 > 0:09:28pardon is quite the wrong course of action.It's one of those things
0:09:28 > 0:09:32that happening now, like with Alan Turing, people asked if he would get
0:09:32 > 0:09:37a medal, would he be pardoned. What was great today and what we should
0:09:37 > 0:09:40focus on more is the enjoyment of that centenary celebration and how
0:09:40 > 0:09:46far have moved. One line in the speech by Theresa May was the line
0:09:46 > 0:09:50about moving on and talking about online abuse. Nowhere near that
0:09:50 > 0:09:54historic battle but another big battle we have to win. Katie Price
0:09:54 > 0:09:58was in the Commons today talking about the violence directed at her
0:09:58 > 0:10:04son Harvey. Abuse suffered by a lot of female MPs on Twitter for
0:10:04 > 0:10:17example.Let's move on to the i newspaper.It's a policy from the
0:10:17 > 0:10:21government, surprise surprise that could do some good. Matthew Taylor
0:10:21 > 0:10:28was sent to look at the gig economy. You don't really have sick pay and
0:10:28 > 0:10:31holiday day with these firms, it's a massive review of what can be done
0:10:31 > 0:10:37to help people in that gig economy. The government may look at getting
0:10:37 > 0:10:40these guys sick pay and holiday pay and the chance to ask for a normal
0:10:40 > 0:10:45contract which make them than with a higher minimum wage. Great news for
0:10:45 > 0:10:48the 5 million people in that. I wonder if the sting in the tail will
0:10:48 > 0:10:52be how the Treasury treats them tax rise. Last year Philip Hammond
0:10:52 > 0:10:55talked about raising national insurance for self-employed workers.
0:10:55 > 0:11:00That might be the sting in the tail. Stephen, does this link with the
0:11:00 > 0:11:13story on the front page of the
0:11:13 > 0:11:15Guardian, Tesco may face a £4 billion bill of equal pay claim,
0:11:15 > 0:11:18would that be the biggest of equal pay claim in the country?The
0:11:18 > 0:11:21largest clawing back of money that should have been paid. It turns out,
0:11:21 > 0:11:24thanks to this law firms that Tesco has been paying more to men who have
0:11:24 > 0:11:28been working in its warehouse than women in the same jobs and more to
0:11:28 > 0:11:32men who have been working on tills. People who work in Tesco's are not
0:11:32 > 0:11:37self-employed, they have a contractual relationship with Tesco.
0:11:37 > 0:11:41It's part of the same pattern of big firms are effectively saying, now
0:11:41 > 0:11:46you work for us, the rights you had in a small sum, you don't get those
0:11:46 > 0:11:51any more.Interesting. Steve?Tuscan needs this like a hole in the head,
0:11:51 > 0:11:54the ex-directors are going through the courts of the profit warning
0:11:54 > 0:11:58from a couple of years back and now business isn't food in the best of
0:11:58 > 0:12:03light today what with the Carillion story and Tesco on the front of a
0:12:03 > 0:12:07national paper being told that they pay women £3 an hour less, that's
0:12:07 > 0:12:13not good for them.This striking picture. We don't have much time.
0:12:13 > 0:12:16Cheddar man, facial reconstruction of Britain's oldest skeleton. How
0:12:16 > 0:12:24does he look.Kind of how you would expect! We know humanity began in
0:12:24 > 0:12:32Africa. People arrived, fresh from the boat as my grandfather was, you
0:12:32 > 0:12:36intermarry and get a bit paler and it appears this is what has happened
0:12:36 > 0:12:42with Cheddar Man. Each generation has become more accustomed to living
0:12:42 > 0:12:47here, doesn't have to worry so much about the sun, it's a reminder we
0:12:47 > 0:12:50are all from the same place originally.That's a wonderful way
0:12:50 > 0:12:58to end, we've run out of time. Thank you both so much.
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0:13:15 > 0:13:16Thank you Stephen and Steve.