:00:41. > :00:44.Here in the East Midlands: Will a Supreme Court ruling put more
:00:44. > :00:48.people at risk of forced marriages? And the Prime Minister has attacked
:00:48. > :00:58.it, but one of our viewers insists we should welcome a EU directive
:00:58. > :00:58.
:00:58. > :25:51.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1493 seconds
:25:51. > :25:55.that will see more diabetic drivers Hello. Here in the East Midlands
:25:55. > :26:00.the Prime Minister has attacked it but a victim insists the EU is
:26:00. > :26:05.right to get tougher with diabetic drivers. To say the diabetic driver
:26:05. > :26:10.is part of that unnecessary legislation is absolutely crass. It
:26:10. > :26:15.is unforgivable. I am sure Mr Cameron will want to look again at
:26:15. > :26:20.what he said. David Cameron is also under fire from one of his own
:26:20. > :26:26.members of the European Parliament. Roger Helmer tells us why he is a
:26:26. > :26:29.quitting -- acquitting. David Cameron is keen to appease Guardian
:26:29. > :26:35.readers who will never vote Conservative and he is ignoring his
:26:35. > :26:38.base and that is dangerous. Plus we will ask why it a controversial
:26:38. > :26:46.Supreme Rubin will make forced marriages more likely here in the
:26:46. > :26:49.east Midlands. A new EU directive hits the road in
:26:49. > :26:55.a fortnight. It will result in more insulin-dependent drivers losing
:26:55. > :26:59.their licences. About time also says one of our viewers as our
:26:59. > :27:02.political Editor reports. I am on a country road between
:27:02. > :27:07.Newark and herself well in Nottinghamshire and this warning
:27:07. > :27:16.sign to motorists is a reminder of a tragedy here almost five years
:27:16. > :27:21.ago. Wendy's car went upside down through the hedge. This is a Roger
:27:21. > :27:24.Fell. He is recounting the accident which killed his ex-wife when day.
:27:24. > :27:29.Seconds before the collision, the driver of the other car had a
:27:29. > :27:32.blackout. He is diabetic. Since then Roger has campaigned for new
:27:32. > :27:38.restrictions on diabetics been allowed to drive as we reported on
:27:38. > :27:43.the time. The inquest was told some diabetics are prone to a
:27:43. > :27:48.hypoglycaemic attack and lose consciousness. One result an new EU
:27:48. > :27:53.directive - diabetics have been more than one severe hypoglycaemic
:27:53. > :27:57.attack in effect it blackout over a 12 month period face a driving ban.
:27:57. > :28:02.They are being allowed a licence to drive which is a tremendous right
:28:02. > :28:09.of mobility, but they do not have a right to place are the people at
:28:09. > :28:13.risk. For Roger Fell, job done. A campaign success. Or so he thought
:28:13. > :28:20.until the Conservative Party conference. A couple of weeks ago,
:28:20. > :28:25.I was preparing for a day's work, going through paperwork. I came
:28:25. > :28:29.across this EU directive. It was about whether people would die BT's
:28:29. > :28:35.should be allowed to dry. What on earth has this got to do with a
:28:35. > :28:40.single market? Do you think anyone in China is thinking, let's get
:28:40. > :28:45.those diabetics of the road! come out and say the diabetic
:28:45. > :28:49.driver is part of that are necessary legislation is absolutely
:28:49. > :28:53.crass, unforgivable and I am sure Mr Cameron will want to look at
:28:53. > :28:57.what he said again. There is a queue outside a mobile health
:28:57. > :29:06.clinic in Leicester. Shoppers are being offered a free test for
:29:07. > :29:11.diabetes. Had there is next to volunteer. -- had there. There are
:29:11. > :29:20.one million adults in the UK with Di BT's who need to take insulin.
:29:20. > :29:24.The test results for her there is a good. In the East Midlands, an
:29:24. > :29:34.estimated 208,000 adults suffer from diabetes and out of that
:29:34. > :29:34.
:29:34. > :29:40.figure getting on for 76,000 need insulin. Some of it is down to diet,
:29:40. > :29:46.exercise as well. Lifestyle. More of us are developing diabetes so
:29:46. > :29:55.should diabetics be driving? Yes, they should be driving provided
:29:55. > :29:59.they can do properly. If they do not manage properly and if people
:29:59. > :30:03.frequently go hypoglycaemic, as a doctor I have to say it is
:30:03. > :30:08.dangerous. This is a lesson in driving an articulated lorry. Roger
:30:08. > :30:14.has been in the haulage industry for 30 years. He now trains the
:30:14. > :30:18.next generation of HGV drivers. There are currently medical
:30:18. > :30:25.restrictions on who can get behind the wheel. That is why diabetics
:30:25. > :30:31.cannot get a HGV licence. They were absolutely not be allowed. It will
:30:31. > :30:35.not be issued. But that will change. The EU directive that is curbing
:30:35. > :30:41.insulin-dependent diabetics from driving cars is going to ease up
:30:41. > :30:48.the regulations for truck drivers. Diabetics will be able to apply for
:30:48. > :30:53.a HGV licence. If it is decided that a type one diabetic is
:30:53. > :30:58.perfectly safe behind the wheels, then I would have a problem with
:30:58. > :31:04.that. But at the moment that is not the case. That is not the case for
:31:04. > :31:10.a good reason. Was David Cameron right to highlight an EU directive
:31:10. > :31:16.with apparently contradictory N's? Labour MP Keith Baz has a personal
:31:16. > :31:20.interest in this issue. He is a diabetic himself. What this
:31:20. > :31:24.directive seeks to do is to limit those who have had a certain
:31:24. > :31:28.episode as a result of their diabetes. What I worry about is the
:31:28. > :31:32.factor that people may not disclose this because they want to hang onto
:31:32. > :31:37.their licences and the only time we will find out is when it is too
:31:37. > :31:42.late and they have had an accident. But a diabetics Campaign Group
:31:42. > :31:46.offers this reassurance. People with diabetes who are treated with
:31:46. > :31:52.insolent and the get a licence every three years and therefore
:31:52. > :31:56.they are medically assessed again and again. This means that probably
:31:56. > :32:01.somebody with diabetes is going to be much more aware of the dangers
:32:01. > :32:04.and much more aware of the importance of following all of the
:32:04. > :32:09.guidance making sure they are fit to drive than somebody who is not
:32:09. > :32:19.treated in the same by. Back to Leicester and the latest volunteer
:32:19. > :32:20.
:32:20. > :32:24.to undergo the test for diabetes. Your BMI is a little bit overweight.
:32:24. > :32:28.For diabetes is the latest issue caught up in a political row over
:32:28. > :32:33.EU power. We may all need some medication.
:32:33. > :32:40.We asked Diabetes UK to join us to discuss some of the concerns raised
:32:40. > :32:43.but they told us no one was available.
:32:43. > :32:46.Earlier this week campaigners Jasvinder Sanghera were celebrating
:32:46. > :32:50.the Prime Minister's announcement that the Government plans to make
:32:51. > :32:55.it a criminal offence to force a person to marry against their will.
:32:55. > :32:59.Forced marriages little more than slavery. To force someone into
:32:59. > :33:05.marriage is completely wrong. I believe this is a problem we should
:33:05. > :33:08.not shy away off. Because of some codger concerns. Then came a
:33:08. > :33:13.Supreme Court decision that overturned the ban on wedding
:33:13. > :33:19.Beazer's for anyone under 21. Jasvinder believes it will put more
:33:19. > :33:23.people at risk of forced marriage. Is she right? She joins me with
:33:23. > :33:28.Mustafa Malik from the Pakistani youth association. Jasvinder, you
:33:28. > :33:32.know what it is like to be a victim of coerce marriages, you ran away
:33:32. > :33:38.from home to avoid one and your sister took her own life because
:33:38. > :33:42.she was so unhappy in a forced relationship. Labour raised the age
:33:42. > :33:49.and now the judges are saying that has done more harm than good.
:33:49. > :33:52.is an extreme blow. As I survivor of a forced marriage, what we have
:33:52. > :33:59.been a marvel of is not what is being considered here but the
:33:59. > :34:03.welfare of British-born subject to are forced into marriage. For all
:34:03. > :34:08.the thousands of cases we deal with, what this means is that our victims
:34:08. > :34:12.will be pressured and coerced into sponsoring that foreign national at
:34:12. > :34:18.the age of 17 years old. They do not have the majority of three
:34:18. > :34:21.years to wait until they are 21. You are saying it makes the most
:34:21. > :34:26.vulnerable people more vulnerable. It is making them more vulnerable
:34:26. > :34:31.because what we have to remember is they do not have the choice. For
:34:31. > :34:38.those who fall in love and consent is a factor, that his eight choice.
:34:38. > :34:46.Our victims do not have a choice. Mustafa, what Jasvinder is saying
:34:46. > :34:50.is this ruling is bad news. I do not agree. The ruling is a very
:34:51. > :34:57.good one. When we were dealing with the issue of forced marriage,
:34:57. > :35:01.everybody did not come into the same category. There are people
:35:01. > :35:09.where there are arranged marriages, so this age limit that
:35:09. > :35:13.discriminates with those with genuine reasons to get their spouse
:35:13. > :35:22.from the sub-continent. Do you know couples who will be affected by
:35:22. > :35:30.this ruling? There will be affected. Of course they will be affected. I
:35:30. > :35:36.do not see these forced marriages and this ruling together because
:35:36. > :35:40.forced marriages are a different issue. As far as this ruling is
:35:40. > :35:45.concerned, this is about the age discrimination so when we are
:35:45. > :35:50.talking about the citizens of European Union, then you have a
:35:50. > :35:56.different law and when we are talking about non-EU countries
:35:56. > :36:00.there is a different law. That is where the problem is. We are not
:36:00. > :36:04.talking about arranged marriages here. Week I have to say I can give
:36:04. > :36:08.you thousands of statistics around victims who are forced to marry
:36:08. > :36:13.every year and which is the greater of the two? Those with the consent
:36:13. > :36:19.of those who have been forced to marry. One hour helpline we are
:36:19. > :36:25.dealing with 500 calls a month of victims calling the lines, British
:36:25. > :36:30.suggests, our unit deals with 5,500 cases a year. David Cameron is
:36:30. > :36:36.right to use the immigration issue to tackle forced marriages because
:36:36. > :36:40.what we know it is the crimes are going up and up, we do not have
:36:40. > :36:45.effective measures to deal with it. The court does not agree with the
:36:45. > :36:49.exactly, Jasvinder. It says the number of genuine relationships are
:36:49. > :36:55.obstructed by raising the bees their age limit exceeds the number
:36:55. > :36:58.of forced marriages it deters. Let's be clear. One of the things
:36:58. > :37:02.that were served by the Supreme Court was there was not enough
:37:02. > :37:07.evidence that gave them the feeding of the scale of the problem and
:37:07. > :37:12.sadly, the Government did not make their case. You mentioned the Home
:37:12. > :37:18.Office's forced marriage unit and we have some figures. They
:37:18. > :37:23.investigated 469 cases of forced marriage in 2010 and 52 % of those
:37:23. > :37:30.cases involve people from Pakistan. Is it really worth the risk of
:37:30. > :37:34.those cases being increased by this ruling? I think that I need to go
:37:34. > :37:42.back. As far as the forced marriage is concerned, forced marriage has
:37:42. > :37:46.no place as far as the religion is concerned. Islam forbids forced
:37:47. > :37:52.marriage. Forced marriage is a cultural thing and I believe within
:37:52. > :37:58.the community in Leicester the day -- the rate of forced marriages is
:37:58. > :38:04.going down. This is the third generation of people living in this
:38:04. > :38:09.country. It was quite high for the first generation and maybe the
:38:09. > :38:14.second but the third... But figures are increasing. In 2000 and day,
:38:14. > :38:19.the number of cases investigated by the forced marriage unit was 420
:38:20. > :38:26.and now ates 469 last year. because there is more awareness.
:38:27. > :38:33.That is why you are getting more numbers. Let's not forget this is a
:38:33. > :38:40.hidden crime, it is under-reported, our victims have multiple
:38:40. > :38:46.perpetrators. This is a hidden problem. Because there is a lot of
:38:46. > :38:51.awareness and people are not getting aware... The more cases are
:38:51. > :38:57.coming out. Four you said numbers were going down. The actual number
:38:57. > :39:02.is going down but more cases are coming out, so before they were not
:39:02. > :39:07.reported, so the number of cases reported was less than what is
:39:07. > :39:15.being reported now. If this is against religion, which it is,
:39:15. > :39:20.surely we did as the Disney to be supporting measures. We are not
:39:20. > :39:28.talking about arranged marriages and surely endure religion, we have
:39:28. > :39:32.a duty to protect the final ball. only believe that the decision
:39:32. > :39:37.taken by the court on forced marriages, everybody within the
:39:37. > :39:43.Community, the majority, are against it. The young children are
:39:43. > :39:47.against it. Last month there was a conference in London which was
:39:47. > :39:57.attended by 10,000 people where it was explicitly explained that
:39:57. > :40:01.
:40:01. > :40:09.forced marriages... The religious people, yes they need to come out.
:40:09. > :40:12.We need to discuss this issue more. Thank you.
:40:12. > :40:16.Say what you like but Roger Helmer is one of the most colourful
:40:17. > :40:20.politicians in the East Midlands. He has never been afraid to express
:40:20. > :40:24.his views but he dismayed his supporters this week with his
:40:24. > :40:29.announcement that he is to quit his membership of the European
:40:29. > :40:33.Parliament. We spoke to him in Brussels and asked why now? I am
:40:33. > :40:38.older now than I have ever been before but a number of the issues I
:40:38. > :40:43.am concerned about are blowing up. In Europe we had the carious in the
:40:43. > :40:46.euro-zone, a superb opportunity for the Government to get a grip and
:40:46. > :40:52.reconfigure our relationship with Europe but it is clear this
:40:52. > :40:55.government just is not prepared to do that. Climate and energy, I
:40:55. > :41:00.think the public out there are starting to get the electricity
:41:00. > :41:05.bills with enormous increases and that is a direct result of our
:41:05. > :41:09.obsession with wind power. The issues I have been worried about
:41:09. > :41:14.particularly are coming to a head. You fought for a UK referendum on
:41:14. > :41:19.Europe, there is clearly no appetite for one in Downing Street.
:41:19. > :41:25.Is it a lost cause? I am not sure it is a lost cause. It depends how
:41:25. > :41:29.much public pressure there is. It is certainly true that he -- David
:41:29. > :41:35.Cameron does not want a referendum on the ewe because he thinks
:41:35. > :41:38.membership is in Britain's interests. Membership is not in
:41:38. > :41:43.Britain's interests. You have a referendum to find out what the
:41:43. > :41:48.public think. It is not as if you have just fallen out with the Tory
:41:48. > :41:52.leadership now. Can fight describe you as semi-detached from the
:41:52. > :41:57.Conservative Party. Critics say you have not been a team player.
:41:57. > :42:02.think you should talk to my staff, they will take a different view.
:42:02. > :42:07.What I will say is that I am on the Conservative wing of the
:42:07. > :42:10.Conservative Party and many party members are equally on the
:42:10. > :42:16.Conservative wing of the Conservative Party, and we are very
:42:16. > :42:22.concerned that the leadership are out on a limb. The leadership is
:42:22. > :42:26.not paying attention to the backbenches, members and activists.
:42:26. > :42:31.David Cameron is keen to appease Guardian readers who will never
:42:31. > :42:35.vote Conservative and she is ignoring his base and that is
:42:35. > :42:40.dangerous. It is certainly the case that membership of the Conservative
:42:40. > :42:43.Party is in steep decline and if the party leadership cannot despond
:42:43. > :42:49.-- respond to the needs and ambitions of the run ship then we
:42:49. > :42:52.will have problems. He said the current euro-zone crisis presents
:42:52. > :42:57.us with a opportunity to reconfigure our relationship with
:42:57. > :43:05.Europe. How exactly? What would you like to see happen? I would like to
:43:05. > :43:09.see Britain negotiate a new relationship based solely on free
:43:09. > :43:15.trade and governmental corporation. But what we need surely is Britain
:43:15. > :43:20.to take any doubt in Europe to save the European economy. We have heard
:43:20. > :43:26.slogans we are winning the battle in Europe, we have been saying that
:43:26. > :43:30.for 40 years and it just gets worse. We get the pay in, we see more and
:43:30. > :43:35.more powers transferred from Britain to Europe. The idea that we
:43:35. > :43:40.can reform it from within has been tested to destruction. It does not
:43:40. > :43:45.work. Europe is the UN reform it deserves to be put out on his Myrie.
:43:45. > :43:50.He had been quoted as saying we need a growth strategy. Do you mean
:43:50. > :43:57.in Europe or the UK? It will apply equally in both cases but what I
:43:57. > :44:04.meant was the UK. I greatly respect George Osborne's deficit policy --
:44:04. > :44:09.redundancy policy but alongside that, we need a clear growth
:44:09. > :44:14.strategy which will involve some tax incentives which I believe
:44:14. > :44:22.could be self financing but also a massive deregulation. Britain's
:44:22. > :44:27.businesses are being held back by all this European employment --
:44:27. > :44:31.implement legislation. The things we are doing as policy of
:44:31. > :44:35.preventing a recovery from the recession. What do you think your
:44:35. > :44:40.greatest achievements have been? think it is a case of having taken
:44:40. > :44:45.the two issues that I am really committed to - Europe and climate
:44:45. > :44:50.and energy - and shifting opinion. It is difficult to measure how much
:44:50. > :44:54.I have contributed but as a member of the European Parliament, I had
:44:54. > :44:59.been in a strong position to influence both of those debates.
:44:59. > :45:09.Clearly a Europe debate has moved a bit in my direction. The climate
:45:09. > :45:11.
:45:11. > :45:14.debate has moved overwhelmingly. Today the majority of the British
:45:14. > :45:18.people are no longer convinced by the Al Gore Theory of climate
:45:18. > :45:22.change and especially as they get these electronic -- electricity
:45:22. > :45:29.bills and then farms put up virtually in their back gardens,
:45:29. > :45:35.they are starting to say, what is going on here? Thank you very much.