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:00:35. > :00:38.Here in the north: It's 75 years since this - the original Jarrow

:00:38. > :00:41.march. This weekend a new generation have set out to recreate

:00:41. > :00:44.that 300 mile walk to London. What can they hope to achieve? We'll be

:00:44. > :00:54.asking a teenager whose great grandfather was on the original

:00:54. > :00:54.

:00:54. > :36:44.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2150 seconds

:36:44. > :36:48.A very warm a welcome to you. This weekend, 75 years on from the

:36:48. > :36:55.historic Jarrow crusade, aim other marches on its way to London.

:36:55. > :37:00.Unemployed people laughed at Southtown side -- left the South

:37:00. > :37:04.Tyneside to protest regeneration of unemployed people. Will be catching

:37:04. > :37:08.up with the marchers, but first we will speak to some of those people

:37:08. > :37:13.taking part, including one at a teenager whose great grandfather

:37:13. > :37:20.was on the original March. It is an unremarkable part of

:37:20. > :37:24.Jarrow. Right he will find a bit of history. This is a modern chemical

:37:24. > :37:31.works, back in 1936 it was a shipyard. Jarrow was already

:37:31. > :37:37.suffering from huge unemployment, that shipyard being cut seemed a

:37:37. > :37:42.blow could not recover from. It inspired a determination to send a

:37:42. > :37:48.message to central government. October 1936, 200 people from

:37:48. > :37:51.Jarrow started a march to London in a protest against unemployment. 75

:37:51. > :38:01.years on, people from that this area are following in their

:38:01. > :38:06.footsteps. It is very personal Paul one of this year's marches. Lizi

:38:06. > :38:13.Gray is a student, but her great grandfather was one of the which 0

:38:13. > :38:19.Jarrow march us. It is amazing that he took the initiative to March.

:38:20. > :38:29.There was that much of poverty and disease. How could you stand by and

:38:29. > :38:34.take it? You are not unemployed? am not in any kind of work. I would

:38:34. > :38:42.like to have self-sufficiency. It is not looking that like -- it was

:38:42. > :38:47.not looking like that is possible. This girl is also backing for the

:38:47. > :38:53.march. She has been unemployed for two years. I apply for jobs every

:38:53. > :38:58.week, I do not even get a response. Even for jobs that I have

:38:58. > :39:02.experience for. I have been told are not in been shortlisted. You

:39:02. > :39:09.can tell yourself it is the economic climate, but you feel

:39:09. > :39:15.worthless. Daniel is travelling to the march from his home in Carlisle,

:39:15. > :39:21.a graduate, he still cannot find a job. I have been looking for jobs.

:39:21. > :39:26.It is not just any, there are fortify graduates chasing every

:39:27. > :39:31.vacancy. People like me could become a lost generation without

:39:31. > :39:41.prospects. Is there any comparison between the world of the original

:39:41. > :39:48.marchers, and modern day Jarrow forced -- modern-day Jarrow? Some

:39:48. > :39:53.local politicians have dismissed this new March. This is a political

:39:53. > :39:57.stunt. It is not as bad now than it was then. There are problems at the

:39:57. > :40:05.moment. These problems were caused by the previous a Labour government,

:40:05. > :40:09.they just spent all the money. of people unemployed in the

:40:09. > :40:13.original March. Nobody had anything. We live in a society where you

:40:13. > :40:19.could be living next to your neighbour who has all the material

:40:19. > :40:25.benefits. Unemployment is a little bit more difficult now.

:40:25. > :40:30.75 years on, a new generation are heading to London. Paul Lizi Gray,

:40:30. > :40:35.a question, what would her great grandfather had made a bit?

:40:35. > :40:41.would have wanted to do something - - I think he would have wanted to

:40:41. > :40:45.do something. It would have been horrible for him to know that

:40:45. > :40:51.people are still having to make this kind of statement. He would

:40:51. > :40:58.have thought that would change. The modern-day marches. They wish

:40:58. > :41:02.to badly last night, they should be at Durham but by the end of the day

:41:02. > :41:07.in. Our reporter joins us from Chester-le-Street.

:41:07. > :41:11.We are expecting them to come past at this point in one hour. They

:41:11. > :41:16.will be reaching Northallerton, Darlington, before going on to

:41:16. > :41:21.cities like Nottingham and Birmingham. They are expected to

:41:21. > :41:24.eventually reached Downing Street in five weeks' time. They will hand

:41:24. > :41:29.over a petition calling for more jobs and training for young people.

:41:29. > :41:35.If they are getting a lot of public support. There was a brass band

:41:36. > :41:40.sent off, they have been getting a lot of free accommodation. With me

:41:40. > :41:45.now is one of the organisers of the march. What has been the local

:41:45. > :41:49.reaction? The local reaction has been incredibly good. We have had

:41:49. > :41:57.500 people marching the bus yesterday in Jarrow. People were

:41:57. > :42:07.lining the streets. The fact that trade union branches, church halls,

:42:07. > :42:12.community centres, it shows the depth of support. We heard

:42:12. > :42:18.criticism in our report. They are saying it is a stunt. We understand

:42:18. > :42:22.that living standards are a lot better than in the 1930s, but there

:42:22. > :42:26.are people unemployed, taxes on education, taxes on the public

:42:26. > :42:33.sector, what this government are attending to do is turn the clock

:42:33. > :42:36.back. But they are penalising working-class people. What we are

:42:36. > :42:42.saying is that we do not want to return to the levels of

:42:42. > :42:48.unemployment and poverty that the original marchers faced. Shouldn't

:42:48. > :42:54.these young people be looking for work? They have been looking at the

:42:54. > :42:58.work, the work is simply not up there at the moment. For every six

:42:58. > :43:03.unemployed people there is just one vacancy. These are people who have

:43:03. > :43:09.been trying to get work. They have been applying for God knows how

:43:09. > :43:13.many jobs per week. We have the government rewarding bankers for

:43:13. > :43:23.their mistakes, they caused the crisis, they are brewing at bail-

:43:23. > :43:24.

:43:24. > :43:31.out to them. -- throwing. A march organiser, possibly many blisters

:43:31. > :43:34.their head. In the week that Labour called for

:43:34. > :43:40.bankers bonuses, is the governor doing enough to help today's young

:43:40. > :43:47.people? Joining the is Julie Elliott MP, and Councillor Wayne

:43:47. > :43:52.Daley. Labour is not involved in this March, should they have been?

:43:53. > :43:57.They would have helped if we had been asked. We were not asked.

:43:58. > :44:03.There are many problems in the North East, youth unemployment has

:44:03. > :44:07.gone up 15 %. Something has to be done. You think this is a

:44:07. > :44:11.worthwhile protest? I have no problem with young people trying to

:44:11. > :44:18.draw attention to problems that they are facing. They run a lot of

:44:18. > :44:25.other things going on. They rise -- them is a lot of lobbying going on.

:44:25. > :44:28.The impact that these policies are having on young people. You can see

:44:28. > :44:35.why young people are angry, you have graduates are struggling to

:44:35. > :44:40.get jobs in Tesco, other people trying to apply in getting nowhere.

:44:40. > :44:50.I understand that. It is important to highlight issues. The government

:44:50. > :44:51.

:44:51. > :44:54.made a commitment to great 360 by the Prince's -- create 365,000

:44:54. > :45:02.apprenticeships. We want to talk about what we are doing to help

:45:02. > :45:08.people find jobs. There has been a recession, the important thing to

:45:08. > :45:12.remember is that even unemployment is a lot lower than in other

:45:12. > :45:17.European countries. He in Spain 44 % of young people are now out of

:45:17. > :45:24.work. That is not to say we should sit back and say we are better at

:45:24. > :45:32.other places. I do not accept that. The government's strategy is not

:45:32. > :45:38.working? Jobs are not been created fast enough. We are in a recession.

:45:38. > :45:43.That is thanks to the previous government. We are having to turn

:45:43. > :45:52.things around. It is not going to be easy. I am not going to sit here

:45:52. > :45:56.pretended will happen overnight. What we are committed to doing is

:45:56. > :46:03.that �180 million is going to spend on 365,000 apprenticeships. If we

:46:03. > :46:08.want to get people back to work. has a point doesn't he,

:46:08. > :46:17.unemployment rose under Labour as well. It was not working?

:46:17. > :46:22.future job scheme was working. People want that jobs been back.

:46:22. > :46:32.The figures were rising? It was a long-term programme, it was getting

:46:32. > :46:33.

:46:33. > :46:43.people back into work. We have lost the working neighbour its fund --

:46:43. > :46:44.

:46:44. > :46:54.working in neighbourhoods fund. spend all the money? People in work

:46:54. > :46:54.

:46:54. > :47:01.pay taxes. It was not unsustainable. It should have been cut slowly,

:47:01. > :47:05.people in work paying taxes. After that, you can cut the deficit. The

:47:05. > :47:09.problem is, what we are missing, these rates have risen massively

:47:09. > :47:14.from August last year to August of this year. This is not a problem of

:47:14. > :47:22.the Labour government, this is a problem of the coalition government.

:47:22. > :47:28.With respect, these funds were cut under the previous government. A

:47:28. > :47:35.cut is a cut. When Labour came to power there were 600,000 people and

:47:35. > :47:42.-- 600,000 young people under work, that had risen to 900,000 under --

:47:42. > :47:48.when Labour left power. The future jobs fund was creating jobs, they

:47:48. > :47:53.by artificial jobs. What we are going to do with the

:47:53. > :47:57.apprenticeships scheme is create more jobs. With the North East

:47:58. > :48:00.having the highest unemployment rate, the lowest employment rates,

:48:00. > :48:08.should be governed be doing something specific bodies area?

:48:08. > :48:17.Absolutely. Do not forget what is being announced today, two big

:48:17. > :48:27.schemes, one is freeing up brownfield land. We want to weird

:48:27. > :48:30.

:48:30. > :48:38.and like -- re- energise this area. Or every house, we are going to

:48:38. > :48:44.build another house. This is a revenue neutral, you sell, you

:48:44. > :48:48.build. I want to ask Julie a quick question, the government is doing

:48:48. > :48:53.things with the resources they have, do you accept that? They are trying

:48:53. > :49:00.to panic -- they are starting to panic. There are some gimmicky

:49:00. > :49:05.schemes. There is a gimmick for selling houses. There is no real

:49:05. > :49:12.plan, there is a housing crisis in this area. There changes to

:49:12. > :49:16.planning regulations are going to stop houses being built. A I do not

:49:17. > :49:22.a think they policy adds up. By thank you very much.

:49:22. > :49:28.Ed Miliband are like this talk about the squeeze Middle -- likes

:49:28. > :49:33.to talk about be squeezed middle. The rising cost the middle -- the

:49:33. > :49:43.rising cost of living. MPs in this area think he should be talking

:49:43. > :49:55.

:49:55. > :50:04.about people that he should be The Labour conference in 2011,

:50:04. > :50:08.plenty of colour, plenty of campaigners. A good bit of red.

:50:08. > :50:16.There are a Labour members to believe their party has not been

:50:16. > :50:20.read enough in the last the years. One last -- won at North East MP is

:50:20. > :50:25.trying to put that right. This is a meeting of the Labour left. A small

:50:25. > :50:33.gathering, but they have big ambitions. They want to bury have

:50:33. > :50:39.some new Labour policies. Their chairman is from the North East.

:50:39. > :50:44.-- 66 % of the population live in households where the income is less

:50:44. > :50:50.than �25,000 here, I am rather sceptical about electoral

:50:50. > :50:55.arithmetic of chasing the squeeze the middle. There is an opportunity

:50:55. > :50:59.to capture the boats are people who did not vote in the last election.

:50:59. > :51:04.What does that mean? We do not know for certain until they publish

:51:04. > :51:14.their Red Book, but there is a talk of taxing the rich, increasing the

:51:14. > :51:14.

:51:14. > :51:17.middle age -- minimum wage, and opening coalmines. There were many

:51:17. > :51:23.industries privatise under successive governments, we want to

:51:23. > :51:28.renationalise them. There are worries about a new Labour been

:51:28. > :51:33.reborn, we feel completely disenfranchised from that. We want

:51:33. > :51:38.to see the Labour Party representing people. The North East

:51:38. > :51:48.will be wed -- well represented in the Red Book. As well as Grahame

:51:48. > :51:51.

:51:51. > :51:54.Morris and Ian Lavery, they're all the other MPs on the region. If you

:51:54. > :52:00.stick to fuel and power, these are industries which people would like

:52:00. > :52:05.to see nationalised. I we have to move to the founding principles of

:52:05. > :52:11.the Labour Party. We have to move on to ground the that we are

:52:11. > :52:16.familiar with. Things need to change, by the looks of it, they

:52:16. > :52:21.are listening. This is a party in search of a new direction. Even

:52:21. > :52:26.those not on the left to save these ideas are welcome, with some

:52:26. > :52:30.qualifications. There is an idea that some commentators have, not in

:52:30. > :52:34.the party, that Labour lost in 2010 if because they were not a left-

:52:34. > :52:40.wing enough. That is why people voted for David Cameron. I think

:52:40. > :52:44.that is nonsense. People want the same as they have always wanted,

:52:44. > :52:50.economic competence, along with investment in services that matter

:52:50. > :52:55.to them. Labour delegates got to bask in an unlikely heatwave. This

:52:55. > :53:03.is a party out in the cold. The question is, would making it a

:53:03. > :53:06.small red get them back in power? - - more red.

:53:06. > :53:16.Do you think Labour has spent too much time talking about the squeeze

:53:16. > :53:21.the middle? I do not think there is a disenfranchised with the voters.

:53:21. > :53:26.The Labour Party wants to appeal to every type of voter. We are a party

:53:26. > :53:31.of aspirations, giving people a fair crack of the whip. There are a

:53:31. > :53:38.lot of voters who drifted away? but they were not necessary for the

:53:38. > :53:43.low-paid sector of the electorate. People started voting, people did

:53:43. > :53:48.not disengage and the political process. That is not entirely true.

:53:48. > :53:58.House of abetted you think that Ed Miliband will be to the idea set

:53:58. > :54:03.out by the left. We are in a time when there are a lot of ideas.

:54:03. > :54:09.There are a lot of ideas, that is exactly where we should be in

:54:09. > :54:12.opposition. Looking at the range of ideas and policies.

:54:12. > :54:16.renationalisation an idea we should -- you should be looking at?

:54:16. > :54:25.might be an idea that some people are attached to romantically, it is

:54:25. > :54:29.not realistic. Given the current state of the economy, voters may be

:54:29. > :54:34.in a mood for some renationalisation, they might one

:54:34. > :54:40.some control over the power companies? Far be it from me to

:54:40. > :54:44.stop the Labour party contemplating electoral suicide! I think voters

:54:45. > :54:48.might look at that, and look at their power rates going up, but

:54:48. > :54:54.looking at renationalisation, Pollock -- politicians deciding

:54:54. > :55:00.when you get power, it does not work. It is not part of the real

:55:00. > :55:05.world. Labour needs to take some lessons from us when we lost power,

:55:05. > :55:09.and stop trying to appeal from the low -- appealed to the lowest

:55:09. > :55:14.common denominator. The reason that you lost it is because he neglected

:55:14. > :55:21.the majority of people in this country. He say that, but your

:55:21. > :55:26.party did not win the last election! A market economy with

:55:26. > :55:33.bankers has failed us, there is no sign that that economic system is

:55:33. > :55:42.doing us particularly well? It is exactly the same across the world.

:55:42. > :55:49.I do not a pink nationalisation, S doing a Michael Foot suicide notes,

:55:49. > :55:56.that is not the answer. If we need to get the banks back into profit.

:55:56. > :56:01.Julie Elliott, is an air of danger you are going to come up with

:56:01. > :56:04.policies that appeal to party members, but not to be public?

:56:05. > :56:14.would not support policies that appeal to a small group of people,

:56:14. > :56:18.or idea -- I think you need to appeal to a broad majority. We want

:56:18. > :56:24.to appeal to everybody. Thank you very much. That is all