13/11/2011

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:00:29. > :00:32.Later in the programme, South Wales Chief Constable tells us that 70

:00:32. > :00:42.miles an hour is fast enough in motorways.

:00:42. > :00:42.

:00:42. > :32:03.Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1881 seconds

:32:03. > :32:08.And what is the best way to sell Welcome to The Politics Show in

:32:08. > :32:14.Welsh. Coming up, how to tap the economic potential of our young

:32:14. > :32:20.people, and what would be best for the economy - .cymru or .wales?

:32:20. > :32:25.First up, the recent pile-up on the M5, in which several people were --

:32:25. > :32:29.seven people were killed including a couple from Newport, has reopened

:32:29. > :32:34.debates on the speed limit. The South Wales Chief Constable, Peter

:32:34. > :32:38.Vaughan, has told us he believes the current 70 mph limit is working.

:32:38. > :32:44.He has been talking about that and other issues which I reported,

:32:44. > :32:48.Adrian Browne. My arrival at South Wales Police

:32:48. > :32:53.headquarters in Bridgend came as Peter Vaughan approaches two weeks

:32:53. > :32:57.-- two years heading the force. On his day -- on his first day he

:32:57. > :33:01.pledged to increase confidence in the fours. Not easy with a

:33:01. > :33:05.shrinking budget and police numbers falling.

:33:05. > :33:10.But before we got onto the many issues facing him, my time with

:33:10. > :33:15.Peter Vaughan began with a drive back to the area where he grew up,

:33:15. > :33:21.served as a senior officer and lived, Merthyr Tydfil. We arrived

:33:21. > :33:28.at the police station in time for an officer is briefing.

:33:28. > :33:34.The beat manager's agenda includes burglaries and a sum of money

:33:34. > :33:40.stolen from a safe. As the heavens open, I briefly take to the beat in

:33:40. > :33:45.the town centre. Back in a nice, dry Office, local policing

:33:45. > :33:50.Inspector Clare demonstrates how new technology is being used to

:33:50. > :33:59.back up traditional bobbies on patrol, making it easy to ensure

:33:59. > :34:02.officers are where they need to be at the right time.

:34:03. > :34:08.Returning to Bridgend there is evidence of more modernisation, as

:34:08. > :34:13.Peter Vaughan and his assistant proudly show me the beginnings of

:34:13. > :34:16.what is to become a state of the art call centre, handling all calls

:34:16. > :34:21.across the force area, another way south poles police is seeking to

:34:21. > :34:26.make the service more effective as budgets get tighter. -- South Wales

:34:26. > :34:30.police. I spoke to Mr Vaughan about fear of crime, plans to raise the

:34:30. > :34:34.speed limit, elected police commissioners and whether policing

:34:34. > :34:42.should be involved. I began by asking him what impact the loss of

:34:42. > :34:48.hundreds of officers was having on the service. That is the part of my

:34:48. > :34:53.job I dislike the most, they are real people with real families

:34:53. > :34:59.within our communities, and since the start of the year we have 470

:34:59. > :35:03.less jobs than when we started. During this Spending Review we will

:35:03. > :35:12.be almost 700 jobs fewer, and it would be disingenuous to suggest

:35:12. > :35:17.this will not have an impact. I could say, I need a 20% cut, and

:35:17. > :35:21.they would not have paid much attention, but I would -- I have

:35:21. > :35:27.been with this organisation for a long time and in some respects we

:35:27. > :35:33.do business the same way now as in 1984, and I threw my chief officer

:35:33. > :35:37.is a challenge - to redesign their operation, what do we do? But then

:35:37. > :35:42.you put the victim, the witness, at the centre of everything you do.

:35:42. > :35:50.But in terms of the public generally, you are confident there

:35:50. > :35:54.is the same effectiveness on the same -- on frontline as ever?

:35:54. > :35:57.as we described, when a police officer arrest someone they will

:35:57. > :36:02.take that person to the custody suite and deal with them from to

:36:02. > :36:12.start to finish. The more effective they are at arresting them, the

:36:12. > :36:12.

:36:12. > :36:16.less time they spend in our communities. With our help, the

:36:16. > :36:22.winners can be dealt with the Police Staff working within that

:36:22. > :36:28.unit, -- the witness. What is your perception of people's risk of

:36:28. > :36:33.crime, people's risk of being attacked in some form? Has saved

:36:34. > :36:37.our people compare two years ago? For burglary for example, at the

:36:37. > :36:42.moment there are seven forces in the country that are reducing

:36:42. > :36:48.burglary faster than we are. Robbery as well - we are doing

:36:48. > :36:52.really well in reducing robberies. If he were to give us an overall

:36:52. > :36:56.position in terms of crimes in the area, we would hit mid- table. We

:36:56. > :37:01.have not got least crime or the most crime. But the public

:37:01. > :37:06.perception is a little bit different from that, and people

:37:06. > :37:14.perceive that crime is high in the area at the moment. To give you an

:37:14. > :37:19.example, in the Cardiff area, half of the population of the area in

:37:19. > :37:22.which I police is located within Cardiff, just within its its

:37:23. > :37:27.extremities. If we have more than five burglaries per day, we start

:37:27. > :37:31.to get worried. And I think public perception is there will be far

:37:31. > :37:34.more burglaries going on then actually go on. The message from me

:37:35. > :37:40.is we are good at dealing with crime, getting better at detecting

:37:40. > :37:45.more crime than ever, and we are determined to continue trying to

:37:45. > :37:50.achieve that. We had that dreadful pile up on the motorway recently,

:37:50. > :37:57.does that give you some reservations over plans to increase

:37:57. > :38:02.the speed limit from 70 miles an hour to 80 miles an hour? It was an

:38:02. > :38:09.absolutely tragic incident, and my thoughts go out to the family is of

:38:09. > :38:13.those people concerned. We had a family from Newport tragically

:38:13. > :38:19.caught up in that, and it is too early to say whether speed was the

:38:19. > :38:25.cause of that accident or not. Within the Welsh region, the

:38:25. > :38:33.southern Welsh region, we have tried different experiments with

:38:33. > :38:38.Gwent Police, on the Mfor the speed was reduced to 50 miles an hour for

:38:38. > :38:43.Adkins biddable amount of time -- and accidents dropped. I can see

:38:43. > :38:53.why people would call for a reduced speed limit, but for me 70 works at

:38:53. > :38:55.

:38:55. > :39:00.the moment. Again, it is for Gwent Police, but we will see how the

:39:00. > :39:05.various -- the variable speed limits will have an impact on

:39:05. > :39:10.accident. If I am driving reasonably at 70 miles an hour, and

:39:10. > :39:16.there is a pile up and I am caught up on it, I am more likely to be

:39:16. > :39:22.harmed if I am doing 80 rather than 70. I think the signs of speed is

:39:22. > :39:26.the faster you go, the more impact when you hit an object. -- the

:39:26. > :39:33.science of speed. Personally I think 70 is OK. The plead that I

:39:34. > :39:38.would give his, all too often I am driving on the road and I seek the

:39:38. > :39:43.signs indicating a speed of 40 miles an hour, and people pass my

:39:43. > :39:50.car at 70 or more. The signs on the motorway are there for a reason, to

:39:50. > :39:54.give people advance notice of what is going on in front of them. So I

:39:54. > :40:01.would recommend that when we are aware of something happening, we

:40:01. > :40:04.will port advisory speed limits in, they are they for a reason. There

:40:04. > :40:08.are a lot of things happening politically, one of which is

:40:08. > :40:15.elected police commissioners next year. That will change things a bit.

:40:15. > :40:20.What you make of it as a concept? In November next year we will have

:40:20. > :40:25.a police and crime Commissioner for South Wales. But I personally

:40:25. > :40:31.didn't think what we had was good with in our area, and the reason I

:40:31. > :40:37.say that is that we have got seven local authorities covered by the

:40:37. > :40:46.South Welsh police. Of those seven areas, but our politicians

:40:46. > :40:53.representing those areas. I have got a great mix of diversity, race,

:40:53. > :40:56.gender, previous experience on that Police Authority, individuals that

:40:56. > :41:02.are used to working at a significant level in other

:41:02. > :41:09.organisations, and that provides us with a number of touchstones. We

:41:09. > :41:13.have seen that in the performance in our area improving, and our

:41:13. > :41:19.inspectors regard so it was police as one of the four moths to

:41:19. > :41:25.improving forces in the country. That is my staff doing their job

:41:25. > :41:31.properly, and it is going to be difficult for one person to take on

:41:31. > :41:37.that real mix of experience and diversity. It is an act of

:41:37. > :41:43.parliament, it will happen, and my cup is normally half full, and if

:41:43. > :41:46.we get the right person it will work. From the police service

:41:46. > :41:51.perspective we are determined to make it work, because the stakes

:41:51. > :41:54.are too high if you get it wrong. Because the people that suffer will

:41:55. > :42:00.be the committees of Wales. other thing being talked about, a

:42:00. > :42:07.bit more now, is the possibility of devolving the police to the

:42:08. > :42:12.assembly. Would you be in favour of that. Personally, yes. It seems a

:42:12. > :42:16.funny place sometimes to be one of the few public services that are

:42:16. > :42:21.not devolved, and we constantly work with devolved services, the

:42:21. > :42:28.fire service, the ambulance service, our local authorities, all looked

:42:28. > :42:32.towards Cardiff Bay. We are not in that position at the moment, the

:42:32. > :42:37.Welsh chief Constable's really enjoy the relationship we have got

:42:38. > :42:42.with the assembly members within Cardiff Bay. We get a lot of access

:42:42. > :42:47.to those individuals, and we are able to make our points to them in

:42:47. > :42:51.a way that we wish that we could do with Parliament. There are some

:42:51. > :42:55.advantages of being controlled by the Home Office, and also working

:42:55. > :43:02.closely with the Welsh Government, but I personally think that we

:43:02. > :43:06.would benefit from being devolved. Thank you very much.

:43:06. > :43:10.That was Adrian Browne putting the questions to Peter Vaughan. Of the

:43:10. > :43:14.many gloomy indicators generated by the global financial crisis, high

:43:14. > :43:17.youth unemployment is a common concern. The sharp rise in the

:43:17. > :43:23.jobless young has hit most countries including us here in

:43:23. > :43:27.Wales. But the latest figures due next week, have fears that the

:43:27. > :43:33.trend is reversed. This generation could find it harder to get on than

:43:33. > :43:38.the last. James Williams reports. 330 miles from their starting point

:43:38. > :43:44.in general in the North is England, a group of the young unemployed

:43:44. > :43:47.completed the final leg of their epic march. Charing -- channelling

:43:47. > :43:52.the spirit of the original Jarrow marchers who delivered a petition

:43:52. > :43:56.to the Government of the day, the core group of 20 matches were

:43:57. > :44:04.joined by hundreds of people from across the UK, to call for action

:44:04. > :44:08.on rising youth unemployment. 24, an unemployed chef. If there

:44:08. > :44:13.were jobs, people would be working. They were put money back into the

:44:13. > :44:15.economy. The latest figures show there are more than 27,000 young

:44:15. > :44:20.people in Wales on jobseeker's people in Wales on jobseeker's

:44:20. > :44:23.allowance. 3,500 more than the same time last year. Of those unemployed,

:44:23. > :44:27.time last year. Of those unemployed, the number claiming for more than

:44:27. > :44:29.six months has increased by more than 40%, however the picture is

:44:29. > :44:29.than 40%, however the picture is than 40%, however the picture is

:44:29. > :44:29.than 40%, however the picture is than 40%, however the picture is

:44:29. > :44:30.than 40%, however the picture is than 40%, however the picture is

:44:30. > :44:34.than 40%, however the picture is complicated by the fact that at the

:44:34. > :44:36.same time there are almost 30,000 same time there are almost 30,000

:44:36. > :44:43.unfilled vacancies in Wales. Not every young person finds themselves

:44:43. > :44:50.in this situation. Jonathan it is a 4th year apprentice toolmaker.

:44:50. > :44:57.have just finished my apprenticeship, and it was pretty

:44:57. > :45:00.good. Every day is different, and I'm still learning. Happy in his

:45:00. > :45:08.chosen career, Jonathan nonetheless feels that his schooldays could

:45:08. > :45:14.have better prepared him for the real world. They could do with more

:45:14. > :45:19.people coming in from work places, to give people experiences and get

:45:19. > :45:22.people to ask questions and learn more about them. Since I left

:45:22. > :45:28.school and came into working environment, it was totally

:45:28. > :45:32.different to what I expected. this lack of exposure in formal

:45:32. > :45:38.education to the world of work that some see as the root problem. This

:45:38. > :45:41.company has been offering Apprenticeships to people -- young

:45:41. > :45:47.people for all the 40 years. But they feel their needs to be a major

:45:47. > :45:51.attitude changed in order to bridge the divide. 12 years ago, when the

:45:51. > :45:56.Blair administration set out the target of 50% of young people going

:45:56. > :46:00.to university, what it did do was reinforce some of the negative

:46:00. > :46:04.behaviour that said to young people, if you do not go to higher

:46:04. > :46:09.education, you have been hurriedly failed. We must get a balanced

:46:09. > :46:13.message right. The head of a body representing

:46:13. > :46:17.Welsh businesses also agrees that greater collaboration is needed.

:46:17. > :46:21.There certainly needs to be much closer working towards the world of

:46:21. > :46:27.work and employment and schools. Government can facilitate that.

:46:27. > :46:30.There is a lot going on, individually between companies and

:46:31. > :46:34.individual schools. A lot of employers try to offer work

:46:34. > :46:42.experience to young people, but an think we need to make it more

:46:42. > :46:46.systematic. Make it better quality, more vigorous. It -- so that it is

:46:46. > :46:49.a bigger part of what schools feel the need to do for.

:46:49. > :46:54.One factor has been the introduction of business backed

:46:54. > :46:58.colleges offering technically orientated courses. There are too

:46:58. > :47:01.technical colleges up and running in England, including this academy

:47:01. > :47:07.in Staffordshire. But is the Welsh Government planning on introducing

:47:07. > :47:13.something similar in Wales? No, we are very committed to working with

:47:13. > :47:15.our further education sector, I think we have had extraordinary

:47:15. > :47:19.success in further education. It has been the sector which has

:47:19. > :47:22.responded most actively to the Welsh Government's agenda, and we

:47:22. > :47:27.want to work closer with business to make sure we have the right

:47:27. > :47:32.range of skills available. Beyond the basic skills, employers are

:47:32. > :47:36.also concerned about the job readiness of young people. I am

:47:36. > :47:39.concerned we have a real focus on literacy and numeracy, and also

:47:39. > :47:47.that we explain to young people the importance of developing key social

:47:47. > :47:53.skills, but jollity, politeness, customer services. -- punctuality.

:47:53. > :47:56.Implementing these lessons will be the best -- the big test for

:47:57. > :47:59.decision-makers. For the young, the March may be over, but the struggle

:47:59. > :48:04.against being a lost generation continues.

:48:04. > :48:11.What is in an name, especially an on-line name? There is debate over

:48:11. > :48:16.what would be best for a Welsh domain name -- Carwyn Jones is

:48:16. > :48:21.supporting the .cymru name all over the .wales name. He says he will

:48:21. > :48:26.support the name that will bring the most benefits for Wales.

:48:26. > :48:33.A domain name for Wales on the Web, is the dream for campaigners.

:48:33. > :48:38.Originally there was a call for Welsh took -- Wales to adopt .cymru,

:48:38. > :48:43.but Wales was overtaken by the Cayman Islands who took that domain.

:48:43. > :48:50.Some campaigners are worried the .cymru address will not be favoured,

:48:50. > :48:56.and .wales will be the address for the future. Can you confirm your

:48:56. > :49:02.Government will only be able to accept an application that includes

:49:02. > :49:06..cymru and .wales? No, it is important week secured any domain

:49:06. > :49:11.that gives the best economic boost to Wales.

:49:11. > :49:16.The this has been a massive blow to the .cymru campaign. I did not

:49:16. > :49:22.think I would see the date when the Prime Minister of Wales says he was

:49:22. > :49:32.against having a domain, .cymru. What is the point of having a Welsh

:49:32. > :49:33.

:49:33. > :49:37.Prime Minister if he does not fight for the one thing that separates

:49:37. > :49:41.people from the outside world, that shows we are a unique culture which

:49:41. > :49:45.we has to which we want to share? Were what governments say they are

:49:45. > :49:53.committed to supporting a top-level domain name for Wales, and that

:49:53. > :49:59.they will shortly invite people to submit their proposals. One company

:49:59. > :50:06.believes there may be a bilingual proposal that works.

:50:06. > :50:10.Whether it is practically possible in relation to what -- Harrow

:50:10. > :50:15.Internet domains are run, is another matter. It may not be

:50:15. > :50:19.possible, but we will track our best to ensure that there was a

:50:19. > :50:25.bilingual aspect. If it is a tall practical.

:50:25. > :50:31.But what would be best for the Welsh economy - .cymru or .wales?

:50:31. > :50:39.It depends on the type of organisation. In the cultural side,

:50:39. > :50:43..cymru could work very well. But in Welsh, they may want an impact on

:50:43. > :50:47.tourism and heritage, and a different format may also work. It

:50:47. > :50:53.will depend therefore in the organisation, the customers,

:50:53. > :50:59.creating that immediate impact. We can also think of brands, and

:50:59. > :51:05.mention the imagery altogether. The company hats asked the .cymru

:51:05. > :51:08.campaign to work with them, but that has been refused. The final

:51:08. > :51:11.proposal will be presented to the body that runs International de

:51:11. > :51:16.Bains next year. It is Remembrance Sunday today,

:51:16. > :51:20.with services being held across Welsh. The service at the Wales

:51:20. > :51:27.National War Memorial at Cathays Park was attended by Cheryl Gillan,

:51:27. > :51:30.Rodney Berman and Carwyn Jones. thing we sometimes do is forget

:51:30. > :51:34.about what has happened in the past and forget the lessons that were

:51:34. > :51:39.taught us in the past. We should never forget the sacrifice made by

:51:39. > :51:44.so many, and use that to make sure that in the future we give our on