:00:30. > :00:34.The View tonight is democracy under attack as the alliance party
:00:34. > :00:38.offices are target in loyalist violence. We ask Nigel Dodds and
:00:38. > :00:43.Naomi Long is there a way forward on flags. Building bridges, the
:00:43. > :00:47.politics in lay over a controversial cross-border project.
:00:47. > :00:53.They're scaremongering within the DUP on this project and they need
:00:53. > :00:59.to stop. As Belfast prepares for Hillary Clinton to swing by, our
:00:59. > :01:09.commentators, talk flags, and farewells. You can follow the
:01:09. > :01:10.
:01:10. > :01:14.programme on Twitter: Loyalty to a flag can never been excuse to
:01:14. > :01:19.compromise democracy, the words of the chief contable, Matt Baggott
:01:19. > :01:22.speaking in the aftermath of street violence, before thrieg the Union
:01:22. > :01:26.Flag at City Hall. After last night's trouble the First Minister
:01:26. > :01:30.appealed for further street protests to be suspended. There
:01:30. > :01:36.have been minor disturbances tonight. I'm joined by Naomi Long
:01:36. > :01:39.and the DUP MP, Nigel Dodds. Thank you both for joining us on the
:01:40. > :01:44.programme. Naomi Long given the furore that erupted since Monday
:01:44. > :01:49.night, do you and the alliance party regret the stance you have
:01:49. > :01:54.taken on plags? No it was a stance we took after long consideration.
:01:54. > :01:57.This situation has been live since 2002, and the legal advice, the
:01:57. > :02:00.equality impact advice and everything points to the fact that
:02:00. > :02:04.designated days was the appropriate way in which the Union Flag should
:02:05. > :02:08.be respected in the city. It should fly on the particular days and have
:02:08. > :02:15.the special recognition, that Belfast is a city within the UK.
:02:15. > :02:20.But it should reflect the fact we live in a deeply divided city where
:02:20. > :02:26.the emblems are a contentious issue. Would community relations be better
:02:26. > :02:31.served by leaving things as they were. Clearly certain sections of
:02:31. > :02:37.the community aren't ready? It has taken years to get to this point.
:02:37. > :02:42.Community relations would be better served it if there was a mature
:02:42. > :02:47.dfrgs rather than grandstanding of those who ignored equality and want
:02:47. > :02:51.to to persist to be taken by the courts and accept the decision
:02:51. > :02:56.courts. I don't believe that's constructive or leadership, a
:02:56. > :03:00.decision needed to be taken, the decision that faced our councillors
:03:00. > :03:04.was whether we supported what the committee recommended which wasn't
:03:04. > :03:12.the committee's advice, that would be the flag would not fly at all,
:03:12. > :03:15.or whether we wanted to go with the amendment of equality. We proposed
:03:15. > :03:18.designated days. What's wrong with any of that? The fact is Northern
:03:18. > :03:22.Ireland is part of the UK, the Union Flag is our national flag,
:03:22. > :03:26.Belfast is the capital city, we've had the flag flying there for
:03:26. > :03:30.decades, over a hundred years, and you rightly pointed out the damage
:03:30. > :03:34.that was done to community relation ass community interaction has been
:03:34. > :03:37.immense as a result of this decision. Promoted primarily by
:03:37. > :03:42.nationalist party, but wouldn't have happened if the alliance party
:03:42. > :03:46.hadn't agreed with it. It isn't a question of affecting the flag on
:03:46. > :03:50.the City Hall, the decision Monday night took away permanently, two
:03:50. > :03:53.other flags in city buildings, permanently. This is a big issue
:03:54. > :03:57.for many, many people in Northern Ireland. It is an issue that people
:03:57. > :04:02.felt strongly about, when the consultation was held. Thousands of
:04:02. > :04:08.people took part in the response, and said they didn't want to see
:04:08. > :04:12.change. When the staff was consulted, they said they didn't
:04:12. > :04:15.want change. That was ignored. Monday night, at Belfast city
:04:16. > :04:19.council, if you are a democrat, do you not have to accept that, in
:04:19. > :04:24.favour of the change? Of course it was a democratic vote and we have
:04:24. > :04:30.to accept that decision, people have the right to express their
:04:30. > :04:38.views peaceably and in a democratic way. Such as a democratic vote take
:04:38. > :04:42.non-Belfast City Hall, we are feel that does not mean not Britishness,
:04:42. > :04:49.Peter Robinson wants to table a motion in the assembly commission,
:04:49. > :04:52.to ensure action is taken to taking flags in Stormont. Tit-for-tat r at
:04:52. > :04:57.that time? Are people prepared to accept democratic vote of the
:04:57. > :05:00.assembly commission. Why now? The whole issue about the flag over
:05:00. > :05:05.Stormont, Parliament buildings was settled and it wasn't in dispute?
:05:05. > :05:09.Let us be clear, I would rather within on this programme tonight,
:05:09. > :05:11.originally when I was invited, I was asked about the Autumn
:05:11. > :05:14.Statement, I would rather talk about jobs, successful campaign
:05:15. > :05:19.that many of us wageed to reduce the three pence fuel duty increase,
:05:19. > :05:23.and all of that. It is the violence on the streets derailed that part
:05:23. > :05:27.of the conversation? The reason we're here is the nationalist
:05:27. > :05:31.parties and Alliance Party decide today push ahead with striping the
:05:31. > :05:34.Union Flag off two buildings in Belfast completely, and taking it
:05:34. > :05:38.down for 90% of the days in City Hall. That's why we're talking
:05:38. > :05:46.about this issue snafplt with respect, should we not talk because
:05:46. > :05:51.of the violence, and an alliance, had his offices, attacked, in
:05:51. > :05:58.Carrickfergus last night? Let talk about the first question, of course
:05:58. > :06:02.the violence is deplorable, I have been at the receiving end of an
:06:02. > :06:05.assassination attempt N2005, and bomb left outside my office, I know
:06:05. > :06:09.exactly what it is to have the attacks, it is deplorable, anti-
:06:09. > :06:14.democratic T shouldn't happen. But remember, the unionist parties,
:06:14. > :06:16.took a lead in this, involving people, getting involved in a
:06:16. > :06:22.democratic process and consultation, if others get involved in violence,
:06:22. > :06:25.that is unacceptable. But, we cannot, nor should the alliance
:06:25. > :06:30.party or democratic politicians be cowed by the threat and use of
:06:30. > :06:32.violence by expressing democratic view. Given the experience that you,
:06:32. > :06:37.and other colleagues within unionist politics experienced over
:06:37. > :06:43.0 years and more of the troubles, one might have expected a little
:06:43. > :06:47.bit less of a frosty, reaction to the alliance party's concern at its
:06:47. > :06:51.members and its premises being attacked? There's not been any
:06:51. > :06:56.frosty response, people have been very, very strong in condemnation,
:06:56. > :07:01.I stood up in the House of Commons yesterday... Let me finish the
:07:01. > :07:04.point, we have been very, very strong in our condemnation of our
:07:04. > :07:10.violence and anyone who care yies out violence, we didn't ask anybody
:07:10. > :07:14.to come on the streets to protest, we ask people to get engaged in
:07:14. > :07:20.democratic interaction, get involved in the process and
:07:20. > :07:27.lobbying progress. Have you phoned the officer, who whose offices have
:07:27. > :07:31.been attacked? I haven't personally, a colleague of mine has, he said
:07:31. > :07:34.when he heard unionist politicians condemned, he didn't want to hear
:07:34. > :07:38.from them. He tweeted this afternoon that, nobody from the DUP
:07:38. > :07:42.or Ulster Unionists, had officially contact him to express sympathies
:07:42. > :07:46.People have been in touch, as I understand it, let me make it clear,
:07:46. > :07:50.we are absolutely clear in condemnation of violence against
:07:50. > :07:53.anybody. We have been on the receiving end to accept that anyone
:07:53. > :07:58.in a democratic, political party should be the subject of violence.
:07:58. > :08:02.That will not stop us pointing out very clearly the anger in the
:08:02. > :08:11.community about any attempt by the alliance party and SDLP and Sinn
:08:11. > :08:15.Fein to tear down our national flag and capital of our company.
:08:15. > :08:18.said with Nigel Dodds with his sympathy for the alliance party?
:08:19. > :08:25.I'm not satisfied no, it is qualified. Nigel said, during what
:08:25. > :08:28.he said on a number of occasions, that he completely and
:08:28. > :08:32.unequivocablely condemns the violence, it is but, it is that but
:08:32. > :08:37.that takes the gloss off what he says. The bottom line is, violence
:08:37. > :08:41.is wrong. And this is no longer about whether you are for the flag
:08:41. > :08:46.over City Hall or against the flag over City Hall. It is whether you
:08:46. > :08:52.are for democracy and rule of law or against democracy and rule of
:08:52. > :08:56.hau. If on the side of democracy, we should be on the same side not
:08:56. > :09:02.opposing sides, reality is no-one contacted, Stewart Dixon until
:09:02. > :09:07.after he had drawn attention to the fact when no-one had contacted him.
:09:07. > :09:12.I spoke to Sandra, this morning, I received no contact from anyone in
:09:12. > :09:15.the unionist parties, about the staff or inquiry over what has
:09:15. > :09:20.happened, for example to my council colleague, who has been driven from
:09:20. > :09:27.her home. I have had no contact whatsoever. How concerned are you
:09:27. > :09:31.about your security, have you had to take steps and advice? I'm not
:09:31. > :09:34.willing to speak about my personal security, and arrangements I take.
:09:34. > :09:39.I entered public life in full knowledge that some of the
:09:39. > :09:43.decisions I would will so take in City Hall when I was there, is
:09:43. > :09:47.someone holding the balance of power is difficult decisions, I
:09:47. > :09:52.knew that when I entered public life and I'm not going to complain
:09:52. > :09:55.about that now. What concerns me, is, that knowing that there was
:09:55. > :09:59.violence on the streets, and knowing the anger, and Nigel said
:09:59. > :10:04.there's a huge amount of anger and frustration out there, the DUP are
:10:04. > :10:08.continuing to try and keep this issue on the boil. By taking out:
:10:08. > :10:12.With the greatest respect, a clear statement from the First Minister,
:10:12. > :10:16.Peter Robinson today unequivocally, condemning the violence. Ce there
:10:16. > :10:21.has. "there's no excuse for violence in the righteous plaif
:10:21. > :10:26.your we witnessed over the recent days, those who engage, do a disso
:10:26. > :10:30.ever to the flag they claim to earn. It must stop immediately and be
:10:30. > :10:37.condemned by everyone in the community"? He asked for the
:10:37. > :10:42.protest to be "suspended", until when? They must stop immediately he
:10:42. > :10:46.said? He said "suspended" that was the phrase he used today. Later
:10:46. > :10:51.stage he talked about suspended and talks about something Nigel Dodds
:10:51. > :10:55.talked about, which is the need to have a discussion at the flying of
:10:55. > :10:59.flag at Parliament buildings question is suspended until what.
:10:59. > :11:03.Peter Robinson defended the right, as is a right for people to protest
:11:03. > :11:06.F they wish to. There are many ordinary, decent people in this
:11:06. > :11:11.community, who come out on peaceful demonstrations and protests, about
:11:11. > :11:16.the flag and other issues. there were people who went out the
:11:16. > :11:21.other night and the police said there was orchestrated, turned up
:11:21. > :11:26.with Balaclavas, and golf balls and fireworks. We know that, and a lot
:11:26. > :11:30.is done through the social internet. We know it is happening all the
:11:30. > :11:35.time. You've had a lot of time. reality is that Peter Robinson
:11:35. > :11:38.defended the right of people to make peaceful protest. What about
:11:38. > :11:44.the not peaceful protest. current circumstances people should
:11:44. > :11:48.not come out on the streets, if you can't guarantee peace, those who
:11:48. > :11:50.hijack decent people, they shouldn't be on the streets. That's
:11:50. > :11:55.responsible leadership. What about your party leadership? Senior
:11:55. > :11:59.members of your party, have they been involved at all, at any level,
:11:59. > :12:04.in the negotiating with or talking to paramilitary leaders to get them
:12:05. > :12:08.to back away from the violence we've seen? Wouldn't that be
:12:08. > :12:12.responsible leadership? I'm told by the police paramilitaries aren't
:12:12. > :12:15.organising this, I'm told by the police. The Chief Constable said
:12:15. > :12:19.they're looking into that. We, are talking to people in our
:12:19. > :12:22.constituencies and our comuepts, I've been talking to pastors, and
:12:22. > :12:27.people in the community today to get things calmed down. Of course,
:12:27. > :12:31.we are, we do that day in day out, without this issue being on the
:12:31. > :12:36.table. Let me make it clear, we will not back down in terms of our
:12:36. > :12:39.determination to ensure that Britishness of Northern Ireland is
:12:39. > :12:43.not diminished, whether the alliance party, continue on this
:12:43. > :12:48.agenda or not. We will not allow this agenda to be pushed on the
:12:48. > :12:51.British people. Equally, I can assure Nigel the intimidation and
:12:51. > :12:57.bullying and threats that have been leveled at our party will not
:12:57. > :13:02.deflect us from our aim of building a future. We will not bow down to
:13:02. > :13:06.that. The bullying hasn't been only outside on the streets. If you read
:13:06. > :13:11.the speech from the council on Monday night she made it clear the
:13:11. > :13:16.bullying went on inside City Hall as well as outside. We tauched on
:13:16. > :13:21.Stormont. We will see what happens there, whenever this issue. It is
:13:21. > :13:25.important Mark, because the reality is even in a highly emotive
:13:25. > :13:29.situation when things are incredibly tense, instead of
:13:29. > :13:32.allowing a call to the violence, the dull DUP are determined to take
:13:32. > :13:41.the campaign to Stormont and create more difficulties.
:13:41. > :13:46.What about the situation in City Hall. About the Cenotaph. In
:13:46. > :13:50.Lisburn, the flag doesn't fly over the civic offices but flies at the
:13:50. > :13:55.war memorial, 265 days a year. There's a suggestion that could be
:13:55. > :13:59.a compromise at Belfast City Hall. No thrag over the dome but possibly
:13:59. > :14:03.at the Cenotaph. Would you support that, because Myra, suggested that
:14:03. > :14:07.may be a possibility. You are party councillor. First of all to be
:14:07. > :14:10.clear, the proposal, about the Cenotaph is a separate proposal.
:14:11. > :14:14.The proposal to fly the flag on designateed days over City Hall
:14:14. > :14:18.remains. That's the decision on that issue. I understand that, what
:14:18. > :14:22.about the Cenotaph? Not to fly over the City Hall, and Cenotaph, that
:14:22. > :14:26.is not on the table. It will continue on the City Hall on
:14:26. > :14:29.designated days, we will maintain that position. The issue of the
:14:29. > :14:34.Cenotaph will be looked at by councillors in detail. We will
:14:34. > :14:39.other, and made it clear, we are open to having that discussion,
:14:39. > :14:45.with other councillors, we will have to look at it as a separate
:14:45. > :14:50.issue. It will not be as a compromise over the general flying
:14:50. > :14:56.of the flag. In the face of violence, what we would be doing is
:14:56. > :15:00.giving way to a form of political fascism, that would be an insult to
:15:00. > :15:06.those at the Cenotaph, fighting fascism. Let's divorce the issue,
:15:06. > :15:10.and deal with it as a separate matter. There's debate and
:15:10. > :15:15.discussion to come in the various chambers. Thank you both very much
:15:16. > :15:20.for coming in to join us tonight. Now, still to come on The View:
:15:20. > :15:23.Hillary's back to say goodbye. Why has the US Secretary of State
:15:23. > :15:28.always had such fond words for Northern Ireland? I want you to
:15:28. > :15:37.know, that working with the women of Northern Ireland has been one of
:15:38. > :15:42.the greatest privileges of my lifetime. Next to a political tale
:15:42. > :15:46.about bridge building of the possibility of a bridge Narrow
:15:46. > :15:49.Water, has been talked about for many years. Now the projects
:15:49. > :15:53.granted European funding, though it needs backing from Dublin and
:15:53. > :15:57.Stormont. But doubts have been raised by the DUP, while Sinn Fein
:15:57. > :16:04.and the SDLP say there's no reason not to back the plans. So what's
:16:04. > :16:14.going on in the troubled waters of south Down? We have been
:16:14. > :16:20.
:16:20. > :16:23.# I want to reach out Of the loch and feel your hand
:16:23. > :16:29.across the water The idea of building a bridge here
:16:29. > :16:33.has been around for generations. It will link County Louth in the
:16:33. > :16:36.republic with county Down here in Northern Ireland. To many people it
:16:36. > :16:43.will improve local transport links, boost tourism and business for the
:16:43. > :16:48.area. To some the construction of the bridge will show how cross-
:16:49. > :16:58.border relations have improved. The single-lane cabled bridge will be
:16:58. > :17:02.660 metres long and cross Narrow water. The Sinn Fein councillor
:17:02. > :17:07.lives close to the site. We need tourists from Carlingford coming
:17:07. > :17:12.into south Down, and we need to get the tourists, then come from
:17:12. > :17:18.Belfast to Newcastle and turn back. We need the tourists to come from
:17:18. > :17:23.Newcastle to here. The bridge has a check kerd history n2007, January,
:17:23. > :17:28.issue Government promised funding, in 2011 they changed hair mind.
:17:28. > :17:33.Then last March the European Union said they would not fund it, in a
:17:33. > :17:38.decision was appealed. In October, the funding was reinstated and
:17:38. > :17:42.planning permission was grant on both sides of the border. It will
:17:42. > :17:47.help commercial development, retail development, and tourism
:17:47. > :17:50.development. And sustain existing jobs and provide new jobs.
:17:50. > :17:55.Last month the First Minister, Peter Robinson called for an
:17:55. > :17:59.investigation into the project, a move supported by the Finance
:17:59. > :18:03.Minister. I am concerned first of all, that a project which was
:18:03. > :18:08.initially turned down, and short listed, was suddenly short listed.
:18:08. > :18:12.I am concerned that some of the concerns that there were at that
:18:12. > :18:17.stage about the robustness of the figures, whether or not the jobs
:18:17. > :18:21.would actually materialise from it, whether it would generate the
:18:21. > :18:30.tourist income that it is claiming to do, and whether it was delivered
:18:30. > :18:33.on time, could be swept aside. Water bridge be built This man runs
:18:33. > :18:37.a website about Northern Ireland's roads and bridges. If you think
:18:37. > :18:41.traffic is the only consideration, no it is not justified. If you
:18:41. > :18:45.think building a symbol, literal bridge across the border is useful,
:18:45. > :18:52.you think that linking two areas for tourist sincere important, then
:18:53. > :18:56.it is justified. Purely financially, it is probably not justified.
:18:56. > :19:04.roads minister, Danny Kennedy has had no direct involvement in this
:19:04. > :19:09.project and like some in his party he has misgiving. He skhriebd it as
:19:09. > :19:15."mystery eyed" he feels it would be better to build a relief road in
:19:15. > :19:19.Newry. But some believe building of a bridge here could benefit south
:19:19. > :19:26.Downel. The European fund something there and ready to be used and plng
:19:26. > :19:31.permission is in place, let's move ahead. �8 million will come from
:19:31. > :19:35.Europe. Stormont executive and Irish Government will each
:19:35. > :19:40.contribute �2.5 million. But money had been made available from the
:19:41. > :19:46.Department of Finance in Belfast, if the project passes certain
:19:46. > :19:52.economic tests. I'm interested in making sure it is value for money
:19:52. > :19:55.and if we spend it on project eligible for grant aid. I want to
:19:55. > :20:01.ensure there's no political stigma attached to the process.
:20:01. > :20:05.Campaigners say for the bridge say the DUP's arguments don't add up.
:20:05. > :20:10.They're scaremongering within the DUP about the project and they need
:20:10. > :20:15.to stop. I have every faith this project with the will of the
:20:15. > :20:20.community and both governments should and will go ahead.
:20:20. > :20:24.# North and south of the river # The timescale here is tight. If
:20:24. > :20:29.construction is delayed there's a fear the funding could be lost. If
:20:29. > :20:37.targets are met and there is all- party agreement, this part of the
:20:37. > :20:45.border will be transformed. Stephen scam Walker reporting there. Let
:20:45. > :20:52.return to our main story tonight, the flags issue. Joining me are
:20:52. > :20:57.commentators, Miss O'Connor and Sherlow. What did you make of the
:20:57. > :21:02.debate there? It was sturdy. I was surprised that Naomi's underlying
:21:02. > :21:07.conviction, which she must have, that this is all to do with DUP
:21:07. > :21:14.trying to get the East Belfast seat back, that that didn't come through.
:21:14. > :21:20.Because that must be very firmly in alliance's wings. It is ironic, to
:21:20. > :21:24.see Alliance who has been mocked as milk and water and don't know who
:21:24. > :21:28.they are, should be coming this for stick and standing up so strongly.
:21:28. > :21:33.It will be interesting to see if they can continue to do that.
:21:33. > :21:36.You have to remember, in the last week, we had the Kingsmill memorial
:21:36. > :21:42.has been defaced and all of the social media gloating about the
:21:42. > :21:49.flag taken down. We had the deckcal in Newry about the playground named
:21:49. > :21:52.after an IRA member. We seemed to be going backwards, and that debate,
:21:52. > :21:56.exemplified that. There's no Peteing of minds here, there's no
:21:56. > :22:01.process of equality of respect and mutual trust. That doesn't seem to
:22:01. > :22:05.be coming through any more. At one time that was strong as an idea,
:22:06. > :22:09.but it seems to be tapeering away. I don't think that's right. This
:22:10. > :22:15.was an attempt to create a sense of equality and respect. People in
:22:15. > :22:18.Newry didn't do that, certainly by maintaining the name on the park
:22:18. > :22:24.and SDLP leader of the council, or party, saying he didn't see
:22:24. > :22:29.anything wrong with that. There was a point which people in the
:22:29. > :22:34.peaceful assess was going in each other's histories. There was a good
:22:34. > :22:37.period. That's what Alliance: talking about the peaceful side and
:22:37. > :22:41.you're talking about a political party. What about people on the
:22:41. > :22:45.streets. And perhaps on Monday night we hadn't anticipated that.
:22:45. > :22:55.Obviously everybody is talking about that, we have a tweet here
:22:55. > :22:56.
:22:56. > :23:01.Who said: Well, the DUP are saying, strongly now, we didn't ask anybody
:23:01. > :23:06.to come on the streets. With the Ulster Unionist Party, they were
:23:06. > :23:13.disseminating leaflets, fakeed up in alliance colours, telling people
:23:13. > :23:18.to make their feelings known about the tearing down, and that's a
:23:18. > :23:23.vehement phrase, that stirs anger, and then they say we weren't asking
:23:23. > :23:28.people to come on the street. said when people came out on the
:23:28. > :23:36.street, they were trying to make it peaceful? They have been doing this
:23:36. > :23:42.for a long time, the leaflets, that was useded against the PUP, saying
:23:42. > :23:46.they were Communiststic, there's long history to this thing. There's
:23:46. > :23:53.a wider thing, republic, Sinn Fein, if they were to take down a name of
:23:53. > :23:58.something out there, that boo play in the hands of the dissidents.
:23:58. > :24:01.we will hear more from you both in just a moment or two. Thank you.
:24:01. > :24:06.Let's move on to Hillary Clinton who is back in Ireland. She
:24:06. > :24:09.attended a conference in Dublin today but comes north tomorrow. She
:24:09. > :24:15.continues a whirlwind farewell tour as her role as US Secretary of
:24:15. > :24:25.State. She's a frequent visitor, since she came here in the 1990s,
:24:25. > :24:47.
:24:47. > :24:52.since she came here in the 1990s, Working with the women of Northern
:24:52. > :24:59.Ireland has been one of the greatest privileges of my lifetime.
:24:59. > :25:09.I want you to know that I will always be there as a friend and
:25:09. > :25:20.
:25:20. > :25:25.So, a valid victory visit to celebrate or not? I think she is
:25:25. > :25:30.probably going to run for President, and this is part of the advance CV
:25:30. > :25:34.building up. She's looking to the Irish lobby. She's cultivateing
:25:34. > :25:39.that sense of being in a place where she's seen as a very good
:25:39. > :25:44.thing. After a fairly rough period of Secretary of State, head of the
:25:44. > :25:51.State Department. And, pursuing unpopular policies, throughout the
:25:51. > :26:00.world, to hit the soft thing of the blarnyi and Irish love, is looks
:26:00. > :26:05.like advance building up CV. Do you Pete, we had the Mike bloom Berg
:26:05. > :26:09.tweet, of the New York Times, talking about Mike block Berg and
:26:09. > :26:14.he encouraged entering the mayor's race, she has a bigger office in
:26:14. > :26:19.mind. And you know, that could be the White House, second time around,
:26:19. > :26:24.but in the big seat this time? I think that's been an ambition for
:26:24. > :26:27.her. If it not for her, certainly for her daughter in the future. But
:26:27. > :26:32.Clinton family as being a major establishment still is there and
:26:32. > :26:36.very strong. We should remember, she did a lot for our peace process,
:26:36. > :26:41.and she knocked heads together and concentrate on moving forward.
:26:41. > :26:47.your moment of the week? It is not a moment of the week, it is
:26:47. > :26:51.regrettable, is the allegations of racism in Crossmaglen, and I
:26:51. > :26:58.remember when his father played for porta down, and Newry, the abuse he
:26:58. > :27:03.took in the Irish league, so 30 years on we're with the same
:27:03. > :27:06.problem. Another player came out for Wexford, from an Irish Egyptian
:27:06. > :27:12.background, saying this is going on, Irish society is changing, and I
:27:12. > :27:16.think one of the points is, we have a problem with sectarianism, but
:27:16. > :27:21.racism is growing. Quick moment of your highlight of the week? Well,
:27:21. > :27:24.which really was the news that three bishopss and Monsignor,
:27:24. > :27:28.joined the Pro-Life protesters outside Leinster House. It is the
:27:28. > :27:33.first time, apparently, that Bishops have been on a picket or
:27:33. > :27:39.protest line of any kind. It was a bit of a gunk to some in the south,
:27:39. > :27:44.and some perhaps here as well who, thought the Church may have been
:27:44. > :27:49.more MoDest at the moment, and kept off the streets of what is building
:27:49. > :27:56.up as anti-abortion ramp. Quick look ahead, there's an overlap here,
:27:56. > :28:01.Peter, as a political jog fer, census figures? Yes of course, very
:28:01. > :28:04.boring life. But of course, we don't know exactly what will be in
:28:05. > :28:09.the census, but mine will be concentrated along the secretary
:28:09. > :28:13.fair yn head count, which will be looked at next week. It is
:28:14. > :28:18.political and always been so. In advance of each report, people have
:28:18. > :28:22.said you mustn't talk about it, and whip up feelings, feelings are
:28:22. > :28:25.whipped up already, so let hope it doesn't make it worse next week.
:28:25. > :28:28.will know what the figures are. It is the last programme in the run
:28:29. > :28:34.next week. Thank you very much for being with us, over the past few