0:00:19 > 0:00:24On the The View tonight, from field to fork, beef is a business worth
0:00:24 > 0:00:29�1 billion locally, but has the controversy put a world-class
0:00:29 > 0:00:34reputation at risk? We hear from our panel and Michelle O'Neill.
0:00:34 > 0:00:37It's is a should -- Secure Sinn Fein seed, but could it be a
0:00:37 > 0:00:44testing ground for a surprise candidate? The next place to have
0:00:44 > 0:00:48its say it is here. I am on the election trail in Mid Ulster.
0:00:48 > 0:00:51In commentators call our per Tessas are here with their views on gay
0:00:51 > 0:01:00marriage, Chris Huhne and Richard the third.
0:01:00 > 0:01:05You can follow the programme on Twitter.
0:01:05 > 0:01:09Horsemeat in beefburgers and pork in Halle parfaits, over just a few
0:01:09 > 0:01:13weeks, the fruit processing industry has found itself under
0:01:13 > 0:01:18intense scrutiny. Can we be sure we are eating what we think we are
0:01:18 > 0:01:24eating? Can shoppers believe what they read? And where has the system
0:01:24 > 0:01:34of traceability broken down? At the heart of it is a food confidence
0:01:34 > 0:01:47
0:01:47 > 0:01:57issue and the reputation of the No horsemeat is processed here,
0:01:57 > 0:02:17
0:02:17 > 0:02:21Joining me now are the agricultural minister, Michel O'Neill, Professor
0:02:21 > 0:02:27Chris Elliott and chair of the Stormont agriculture committee,
0:02:27 > 0:02:31Paul Frew. Thank you for joining us. Michelle O'Neill, when did you
0:02:31 > 0:02:34realise there was an issue in Northern Ireland? There is a
0:02:34 > 0:02:41massive confidence issue and we learnt early last Friday about the
0:02:41 > 0:02:44issue of that the FSA a are now involved in investigating. That
0:02:44 > 0:02:49investigation needs to be thorough because if we are going to address
0:02:49 > 0:02:53the issues of confidence that the public has, it needs to be robust,
0:02:53 > 0:03:01timely and pour out the answers as to what has happened. That is the
0:03:01 > 0:03:06only way they can address issues. See if that investigation throws up
0:03:06 > 0:03:12criminality or illegality involved. Do you think they could be
0:03:12 > 0:03:15criminality? For us, the message I want to be clear about his we need
0:03:15 > 0:03:20to let this investigation take its course and make sure it looks at
0:03:20 > 0:03:25every aspect. For me, the issue is about public confidence and we need
0:03:25 > 0:03:31to separate those issues. The investigation is focusing on
0:03:31 > 0:03:37imported meat. Local produce is not involved. We have traceability here,
0:03:37 > 0:03:44full traceability. Let's get that message very clear, there are two
0:03:44 > 0:03:48issues. Can I be clear about one thing, we saw an extract of you on
0:03:48 > 0:03:5129th January. Did you know there was an issue with feed supply in
0:03:51 > 0:03:57Northern Ireland and not say at that meeting, or did you not know?
0:03:57 > 0:04:02That is not how I would do business. The issue arose after that. The
0:04:02 > 0:04:06following Friday. So you were clear about that? And the FSA is now
0:04:06 > 0:04:13dealing with it as it should? Absolutely. They need to expose
0:04:13 > 0:04:17what happened. It is one isolated incident. That is the only way we
0:04:17 > 0:04:22can restore public confidence that needs to be out there among
0:04:22 > 0:04:26everybody. You need to get what you think you are getting. It is the
0:04:26 > 0:04:31minister handling is properly or are there are other questions to be
0:04:31 > 0:04:36answered? There are other questions, of course. But I think what we have
0:04:36 > 0:04:40to do, and what I am keen to do, his show a united front. This is
0:04:40 > 0:04:45much more than politics or headlines. This is about our
0:04:45 > 0:04:50industry and a good industry. One that produces good quality produce
0:04:50 > 0:04:56and is exporting across the world. Thirtysomething we have to protect
0:04:56 > 0:05:01us politicians and I certainly will do that. -- that is something. I
0:05:01 > 0:05:09will be keen to separate what we produce from our own fur -- own
0:05:09 > 0:05:13farms which is traceable from birth to finish, from gate to plate. And
0:05:13 > 0:05:17the other produce that is imported, that is the risk. Chris Elliott, do
0:05:17 > 0:05:22you think we have traceability cracked and we can stand over the
0:05:22 > 0:05:26quality of meat produced in this part of the world or are they still
0:05:26 > 0:05:29issues that give you cause for concern? I think the first
0:05:29 > 0:05:34important thing to note is that Northern Ireland was one of the
0:05:34 > 0:05:38world leaders in introducing traceability systems. It goes back
0:05:38 > 0:05:42probably 20 years. We did lead the world at those times. What we have
0:05:42 > 0:05:46now is a very good system where we monitor animals from the time they
0:05:46 > 0:05:51are born to the time they are slaughtered. It is a very good
0:05:51 > 0:05:55system. Farmers themselves have introduced a quality assurance
0:05:55 > 0:05:59scheme which adds value to the traceability system. What we have
0:05:59 > 0:06:05to concentrate on is what happens after that because all of the
0:06:05 > 0:06:10issues are coming up on products that have been further process. The
0:06:10 > 0:06:15traceability isn't robust enough yet to say that if something was
0:06:15 > 0:06:19produced in Northern Ireland, be it from imported or local material, if
0:06:19 > 0:06:23it turns up a problem somewhere else in the world, where did the
0:06:23 > 0:06:30problem arise? Big idea of traceability from field to fork is
0:06:30 > 0:06:34not actually always the Court of -- it always the case? For the
0:06:34 > 0:06:38majority of meet the answer is yes. If you go into a supermarket or
0:06:38 > 0:06:44butcher shop in Northern Ireland and see that it was quality assured
0:06:44 > 0:06:50beef, you can be assured it is local beef and high quality. It is
0:06:50 > 0:06:56the processed materials. mincemeat? Yes. The ready meals and
0:06:56 > 0:07:01for a lot of processing industries, they have been actively pushed
0:07:01 > 0:07:09towards adding value to products. Now we are seeing a problem
0:07:09 > 0:07:14associated with that. We now have this particular issue dominating
0:07:14 > 0:07:18the headlines removing lasagne beef dishes because some of them
0:07:18 > 0:07:22contained 100% horsemeat. Produced in France, nothing to do with
0:07:22 > 0:07:27Northern Ireland, but as far as confidence is concerned, that is
0:07:27 > 0:07:32worrying, isn't it? What a lot of people have to realise now is how
0:07:32 > 0:07:37complex the production is. I always tell people that in Northern
0:07:37 > 0:07:42Ireland we are in the middle of a food supply chain, a compliment --
0:07:42 > 0:07:48complicated one. We distribute Pseuds amount of raw materials.
0:07:48 > 0:07:55That happens all over the world. Why are we importing processed
0:07:55 > 0:08:00mincemeat? Why are we not using our own meat from Northern Ireland?
0:08:00 > 0:08:08answer to that is we don't produce enough yet. We really want to
0:08:08 > 0:08:12increase local production. Chris is right, we are not producing enough.
0:08:12 > 0:08:19Why aren't we producing enough? don't have enough at this moment in
0:08:19 > 0:08:24time. It is a long-term challenge. What we take in imported products,
0:08:24 > 0:08:28they need to be fully traceable. I think it is the European issue.
0:08:28 > 0:08:34When they come in from Poland, France or wherever else, these need
0:08:34 > 0:08:37to be dealt with at a European level and then at a local level.
0:08:37 > 0:08:42The Food Standards Agency are key, but industry have a responsibility
0:08:42 > 0:08:46to give what they say they are giving. You say you standby produce
0:08:46 > 0:08:51from this part of the world, is it possible to turn this to our
0:08:52 > 0:08:55advantage and say, customers in this part of the world can actually
0:08:55 > 0:09:00be completely sure that what they are buying from Northern Ireland is
0:09:00 > 0:09:04safe and is secured? Yes, out of every situation, if there is
0:09:04 > 0:09:10anything good to take vomit it is that people can be confident in
0:09:10 > 0:09:13local supply. There is a traceable number stamped on all local meat
0:09:13 > 0:09:18and you can trace that back to the farmer, the field and the whole
0:09:18 > 0:09:24system. Thirtysomething people can have confidence in. I encourage
0:09:24 > 0:09:28consumers to separate these issues out. We can stand over local
0:09:28 > 0:09:34produce. The problem is the consumer does not know which is
0:09:34 > 0:09:37which. If you buy local and you go into your butcher shop or if in
0:09:37 > 0:09:42your supermarket and it has Farm Quality Assured on it, you can be
0:09:42 > 0:09:46confident. That must be the message going out. There has to be
0:09:46 > 0:09:50education in this. People should source good-quality meat and know
0:09:50 > 0:09:54the difference between what is produced in Northern Ireland and
0:09:54 > 0:10:00what is pre-packed, processed or imported. That is the message.
0:10:00 > 0:10:07won't get to the bottom of this until the investigation is complete.
0:10:07 > 0:10:12Consumers won't be convinced until it is complete. He is one issue, as
0:10:12 > 0:10:17they took freezer meet, frozen burgers of itself even though they
0:10:17 > 0:10:21found there was not a problem with them. There is a Northern Ireland
0:10:21 > 0:10:24problem -- product being sold across the UK, except it isn't at
0:10:24 > 0:10:28the moment because they are not happy to stock it. That is the
0:10:28 > 0:10:33position they have taken and that is why we need the investigation so
0:10:33 > 0:10:38we can have concrete reasons. you not say they should do
0:10:38 > 0:10:43something about that? I have not had a discussion with as they yet,
0:10:43 > 0:10:47but we do not want to see a drop in confidence. What we produce is
0:10:47 > 0:10:54whole sum untraceable. That is the message we need to get out. We need
0:10:54 > 0:11:04to deal with the job issues, yes, but we need the investigation to be
0:11:04 > 0:11:04
0:11:04 > 0:11:08cleat -- complete. Chris Elliott, let me ask you about affordability
0:11:08 > 0:11:11because when you speak to process as they say it is all fine, but we
0:11:11 > 0:11:16are under pressure from supermarkets to keep costs down.
0:11:16 > 0:11:25Someone said to me, supermarkets want eight burgers or 1 euros.
0:11:25 > 0:11:29Perhaps some unscrupulous processors are tempted to bring in
0:11:29 > 0:11:36other materials that maybe we would not want our kids to be eating. Is
0:11:36 > 0:11:43that at the heart of this cost? Cost is one of the driving factors.
0:11:43 > 0:11:50I think if we look at what happened on this island, 2008 and 2009, that
0:11:50 > 0:11:54was our last food crisis. That was about importing materials as well.
0:11:54 > 0:11:59What our industry did was show remarkable leadership then, so what
0:11:59 > 0:12:04we have put in place is a very robust scheme for testing all of
0:12:04 > 0:12:09our imported food materials. 2 million tonnes per year. It doesn't
0:12:09 > 0:12:13matter from where in the world it comes, we are checking that. That
0:12:13 > 0:12:17is the food industries, but the meat industries are not doing that.
0:12:17 > 0:12:23They have to use a food industry as an example because we can't have
0:12:23 > 0:12:27more industries like this. We can't blame the farmers. If we are not
0:12:27 > 0:12:31putting cheques in place, the only people responsible are ourselves.
0:12:31 > 0:12:37Is that something you will take on board? There is an expert saying
0:12:37 > 0:12:42what could be done. We have to look at all of these things. They need
0:12:42 > 0:12:52to be exposed, the unscrupulous. Until we drive that out, this will
0:12:52 > 0:12:56
0:12:56 > 0:13:01If confidence goes, jobs will go. It is worrying. That is why we need
0:13:01 > 0:13:06this investigation to be thorough and to be complete and to finish as
0:13:06 > 0:13:11soon as possible. Speedyness is important, isn't it? We have to
0:13:11 > 0:13:15know the whole truth. We need to see what is out there. Then we
0:13:15 > 0:13:20repair whatever damage is done. Again, I stress, there has to be a
0:13:20 > 0:13:26separation between what we grow in our own fields and the imported
0:13:26 > 0:13:30material. That is essential. Can we get this sorted out effectively and
0:13:30 > 0:13:36can we restore confidence, so people know what it says on the tin
0:13:36 > 0:13:40is what is in the packaging? white meat industry in Northern
0:13:40 > 0:13:44Ireland are probably the most advanced right across Europe in
0:13:44 > 0:13:48putting in high-quality assurance. It has taken them about five years
0:13:48 > 0:13:54to do that. The red meat sector has to start now. It will not be a
0:13:54 > 0:13:59quick fix. It has to start now. The future of the industry depends on
0:13:59 > 0:14:05it. Thank you for coming in to join us on the programme tonight. Still
0:14:05 > 0:14:12to come: In the garden of Eden there was Adam and Steve. It wasn't
0:14:12 > 0:14:16Adam and eve. Despite opposition from some the House of Commons
0:14:16 > 0:14:22backs gay marriage in England and Wales. What does it mean for
0:14:22 > 0:14:25Northern Ireland? We may still be waiting on a date, but in Mid-
0:14:25 > 0:14:28Ulster the political parties are gearing up for the campaign to
0:14:28 > 0:14:38succeed Martin McGuinness, who resigned in December as the
0:14:38 > 0:14:45
0:14:45 > 0:14:55Westminster MP. What is at stake in This is solid Sinn Fein territory.
0:14:55 > 0:14:56
0:14:56 > 0:15:00Ever since Martin McGuinness beat the DUP's Willie Mccray, Sinn Fein
0:15:00 > 0:15:10has strengthened its hold on this constituency. A by-election here
0:15:10 > 0:15:11
0:15:11 > 0:15:21poses major challenges to the big parties. In Mid-Ulster the party
0:15:21 > 0:15:25traditionally secured around half of -- secures half of the vote.
0:15:25 > 0:15:33McGuinness factor should play heavily in his favour. He should
0:15:33 > 0:15:37win it at a canter. These two men are also standing T unionist
0:15:37 > 0:15:47parties are yet to reveal their plans and there is much talk of an
0:15:47 > 0:15:52agreed candidate. Ian Greer edits a paper. He says unionists need to
0:15:52 > 0:15:58act quickly. As a local editor, every week you wait and think,
0:15:58 > 0:16:04"Well, what will happen this week?" it hasn't happened yet. And you
0:16:04 > 0:16:11think they are dithering? I am not sure as much as having difficulty
0:16:11 > 0:16:17finding an agreed candidate. Rodney Connor knows aut about the pitfalls.
0:16:17 > 0:16:23At the last election he was backed by the DUP and the UUP. Although he
0:16:23 > 0:16:28lost by four votes, he thought voters saw merit in having one
0:16:28 > 0:16:32unionist candidate. Without doubt, that was the strongest message I
0:16:32 > 0:16:38got when I was canvassing - that people did not want to be faced
0:16:38 > 0:16:46with two or three different unionist candidates - they were
0:16:46 > 0:16:51glad there was one person they could come and vote for. You see
0:16:51 > 0:16:55the votes... Pollster Bill White says an agreed candidate in Mid-
0:16:55 > 0:17:00Ulster has little chance of taking the seat, so there must be other
0:17:00 > 0:17:04reasons for unionist co-operation. Are they looking at unionist, some
0:17:04 > 0:17:08form of unionist unity further down the line? You are sending a major
0:17:08 > 0:17:13signal to the electorate and Northern Ireland that if they agree
0:17:13 > 0:17:18a unity candidate the next step may over in the next year or two as we
0:17:18 > 0:17:22build up to the next Westminster election, may be a formal link.
0:17:22 > 0:17:28While an agreed unionist candidate does not appear to pose any
0:17:28 > 0:17:33electoral threat to Sinn Fein, some observers think the move could
0:17:33 > 0:17:41actually help republicans. Sinn Fein would be delighted. Once again,
0:17:41 > 0:17:47it narrows the battleground to a straightforward, back to the '97
0:17:47 > 0:17:53battleground. Rodney Connor thinks that is what happened. Perception
0:17:53 > 0:18:02is very important. Perception that was built on and really pushed by
0:18:02 > 0:18:05Sinn Fein. Again, as I say, I can understand why that was done. The
0:18:05 > 0:18:12strength and perception I was another Old Guard unionist. It was
0:18:12 > 0:18:17not the way it was. Activists accept there is little chance that
0:18:17 > 0:18:22this seat will change hands. For the challengers, the key statistics
0:18:22 > 0:18:29on election day will be those that show whether their vote has gone up
0:18:29 > 0:18:34or down. Sinn Fein will want to show they are still the dominant
0:18:34 > 0:18:43force in Mid-Ulster. They have critics, including this man -
0:18:43 > 0:18:48Oliver Hughes is a former Sinn Fein councillor. His brother, Frances,
0:18:48 > 0:18:52died on hunger strike in 1981. There are people who are annoyed
0:18:52 > 0:18:59and upset at the behaviour of Sinn Fein people. The strange thing
0:18:59 > 0:19:02about it, when it comes to elections, they probably won't vote,
0:19:02 > 0:19:09nonetheless, but certainly people out there and the sad thing about
0:19:09 > 0:19:17this is, if you raise your head and complain or speak out against Sinn
0:19:17 > 0:19:20Fein you are described as a dissident and a dissident by Sinn
0:19:20 > 0:19:24Fein and a traitor by Martin McGuinness - which is not really
0:19:24 > 0:19:30true. Elections by their nature pose questions. Can Sinn Fein
0:19:30 > 0:19:35maintain their power base? Will this poll give the SDLP a boost? If
0:19:35 > 0:19:44the unionists come together, is it a template for the days ahead? The
0:19:44 > 0:19:48people of Mid-Ulster will provide Stephen Walker reporting. On
0:19:48 > 0:19:53Tuesday, the House of Commons overwhelmingly voted in favour of a
0:19:53 > 0:19:57Government bill to allow gay couples in England and Wales to
0:19:57 > 0:20:02marry. A motion was ignored by Steven Agnew calling for similar
0:20:02 > 0:20:06legislation here. We will chat to him in just a moment. First, a look
0:20:06 > 0:20:10back to some of the contributions of our MPs during the debate in the
0:20:10 > 0:20:16House of Commons on Tuesday. Since same-sex marriages were introduced
0:20:17 > 0:20:22in Spain and the Netherlands they have decreased significantly and
0:20:22 > 0:20:26indeed by tens of thousands. I am of course someone of faith. I am
0:20:26 > 0:20:30proud of my marriage and that it was ritually founded. I don't
0:20:30 > 0:20:35believe that's the only form of marriage that anybody should be
0:20:35 > 0:20:40entitled to. For thousands of years, in virtually all cultures, it has
0:20:40 > 0:20:48been defined to be a long-life union between a man and a woman.
0:20:48 > 0:20:53the garden of Eden, it was Adam and Steve. It was not Adam and Eve, it
0:20:53 > 0:20:57was not Adam and Steve. Do you have plans to re-visit that
0:20:57 > 0:21:01attempt that you made last year to change the legislation here in
0:21:01 > 0:21:05Northern Ireland? I think the Westminster vote changes the
0:21:05 > 0:21:09context and gives an added boost to the equal marriage campaign which
0:21:09 > 0:21:15the Green Party is fully supportive of. I don't see theish show coming
0:21:15 > 0:21:20back in this term of the a-- the issue coming back in this term of
0:21:20 > 0:21:26the Assembly. There was genuine surprise in the Assembly at the
0:21:26 > 0:21:29level of votes in favour. The added impetus of the vote Westminster.
0:21:29 > 0:21:34Scotland say they are going ahead with it. Three-quarters of the
0:21:34 > 0:21:38people say they want to see same- sex marriage legislated for. I
0:21:38 > 0:21:44think Northern Ireland's going to find a great push from across these
0:21:44 > 0:21:49islands and I do think it's a matter of if, sorry when rather
0:21:49 > 0:21:52than if. Only two of our MPs voted in favour of it on Tuesday? That is
0:21:52 > 0:21:57disappointing. People will have noted the MPs who stayed away as
0:21:57 > 0:22:01well. In Northern Ireland, as I say, the Assembly vote was almost evenly
0:22:01 > 0:22:06split. I think there were a number of people, as I said, who were
0:22:06 > 0:22:12surprised by the amount of support and who may well put their head
0:22:12 > 0:22:17above the parapet. I'll be honest, we had a conterisation in our off -
0:22:17 > 0:22:21- conversation in our office - this was a divisive issue, was this
0:22:21 > 0:22:26going to hit the party electorally? We wanted to promote it. The result
0:22:26 > 0:22:32has been - the amount of support we've got since it is phenomenal. I
0:22:32 > 0:22:36think other MLAs know that now. The three unionists who put their heads
0:22:36 > 0:22:40above the parapet, the amount of positive feedback they got, that
0:22:40 > 0:22:44will spread through their party. The fact you don't want to bring it
0:22:44 > 0:22:47back within the lifetime of this Assembly, does that not suggest to
0:22:47 > 0:22:51people that you don't have the confidence to get it through,
0:22:51 > 0:22:53because you know at the end of the day, the vast majority of people in
0:22:53 > 0:22:59Northern Ireland don't see it as something they would want to
0:22:59 > 0:23:04support and their politicians won't ultimately vote for it? In terms of
0:23:04 > 0:23:08Northern Ireland, there was a poll, two-thirds of readers voted in
0:23:08 > 0:23:12favour of same-sex marriage. It is a case now that the campaign knows
0:23:12 > 0:23:16what the baseline is, they know which MLAs they have on side. They
0:23:16 > 0:23:23have an education issue to work on with MLAs and with the general
0:23:23 > 0:23:28public, because there is a lot of ignorance, for example. Mr Kenny
0:23:28 > 0:23:32said they were equal in law to marriage. That was not the case.
0:23:32 > 0:23:37And he genuinely, I believe, didn't know the difference. It doesn't
0:23:38 > 0:23:41mean he'll support it next time. That process... That process of
0:23:41 > 0:23:44education, making sure they know the difference between a civil
0:23:44 > 0:23:51partnership and a marriage and I think making that clear. That can
0:23:51 > 0:23:54make the difference to get the numbers.... If it is not done
0:23:54 > 0:23:59legislatively, might some campaign groups try and take it through the
0:23:59 > 0:24:05courts? We have seen the situation where our position of civil
0:24:05 > 0:24:10partnerships not being allowed to adopt. Judges have ruled. It is
0:24:10 > 0:24:15unlawful at press -- it is going through the courts that it is
0:24:15 > 0:24:19unlawful at present. We have the quagmire if people come from GB and
0:24:19 > 0:24:23are told their marriage is not recognised, that would be a
0:24:23 > 0:24:27difficult one. Steven Agnew, thank you very much indeed. Back to us
0:24:28 > 0:24:33for the next few weeks the professors Deirdre Heenan and Rick
0:24:33 > 0:24:38Wilford. Let me stay with the subject we have been talking about
0:24:38 > 0:24:41- gay marriage. It was clearly a controversial issue as far as
0:24:41 > 0:24:47Westminster was concerned. Do you have a view as to whether it will
0:24:47 > 0:24:50be back for debate here? I think it was controversial. It highlighted
0:24:50 > 0:24:56the deep divisions within the Conservative Party. David Cameron
0:24:56 > 0:25:01made it a personal crusade. He said it was an issue of conscience. Half
0:25:01 > 0:25:07of his MPs decided not to support him. There is a clear division
0:25:07 > 0:25:11between the moderners and the traditionalists -- modernisers and
0:25:11 > 0:25:15the traditionalists. There are those who feel very uncomfort wbl
0:25:15 > 0:25:18the marriage with the liberal and that agenda. What is interesting is
0:25:18 > 0:25:22even the modernisers are saying that David Cameron is not serious
0:25:22 > 0:25:25about it and he's doing it to make himself look like a compassionate
0:25:25 > 0:25:31person. They don't believe, because he did not turn up for the initial
0:25:31 > 0:25:36part of the debate. It is a devolved matter. It happens across
0:25:36 > 0:25:40the water - what happens? Unless it is a legislative motion to adopt
0:25:40 > 0:25:44the legislation here in Northern Ireland it will not happen. I think
0:25:44 > 0:25:48Stephen put his finger on a really good point, which will make the
0:25:48 > 0:25:54lawyers very happy, which is that if a gay couple go to England to
0:25:54 > 0:26:02get married and their marriage will not be recognised here. It may be a
0:26:02 > 0:26:05corner that is defending the -- it. We just look like, I think,
0:26:05 > 0:26:09somewhere which is completely out of touch and out of time. We are
0:26:09 > 0:26:13meant to be a country that is concerned with the quality - and
0:26:13 > 0:26:21this is a test issue - and we failed it. Moment of the week?
0:26:21 > 0:26:24me the report of the inquiry into Stafford Hospital. It was deeply
0:26:24 > 0:26:28disturbing when we looked at the absence of care for people within
0:26:28 > 0:26:32the hospital. Putting it in the context, that for many people the
0:26:32 > 0:26:36NHS is the "Jewel in the Crown" of the UK, I think what is deeply
0:26:36 > 0:26:40disturbing is they were saying, this was not a one off, there are
0:26:40 > 0:26:43five other hospitals under investigation. It is clear to me,
0:26:43 > 0:26:49unless we move forward in Northern Ireland, this is what will happen -
0:26:49 > 0:26:55this is what the future holds in terms of the NHS. Your moment of
0:26:55 > 0:27:02the week? Chris Huhne's ten-years late apolicy. Having perverted the
0:27:02 > 0:27:10course of justice, tied up, I think actually in a number of respects,
0:27:10 > 0:27:16the disinturnment of King Richard third. I think somebody Tweeted at
0:27:16 > 0:27:26some point, trying to link the two in relation to Chris Huhne, a hers,
0:27:26 > 0:27:29
0:27:29 > 0:27:35a hers, my kingdom for a hearse. Your Tweet of the week. It was a
0:27:35 > 0:27:39cracker! I hear Chris Huhne wishes to turn back the clock which is
0:27:39 > 0:27:43to turn back the clock which is another serious motoring offence.
0:27:43 > 0:27:53And yours? In relation to the vote in the House of Commons and this
0:27:53 > 0:27:57
0:27:57 > 0:28:01was from Benedict Brogan of the This massive rift. They often say
0:28:01 > 0:28:05in the House of Commons that the opposition sits across from you and
0:28:05 > 0:28:09the enemy sits behind you, as it were. On this issue, Cameron's
0:28:09 > 0:28:15enemies were behind him because he could not carry half his party with
0:28:16 > 0:28:20him. Just a quick look ahead, where will Richard III be buried? We know
0:28:20 > 0:28:24it will be better than a car park. There is some on-going debate.
0:28:24 > 0:28:28Leicester Cathedral say they want him. The cannon of Leicester is
0:28:28 > 0:28:35actually from Fermanagh and they are very keen. York - well they are
0:28:35 > 0:28:38uncertain. The leaders of York don't want him. Maybe we'll have a
0:28:38 > 0:28:47peasant's revolt. Some are suggesting Westminster Abbey.
0:28:47 > 0:28:51is a picture of your new best friend. Dr McKellen, who received a
0:28:51 > 0:28:56dock trit at the University of Ulster, playing Richard III I think
0:28:56 > 0:29:01a couple of years ago to great acclaim. The other thing I
0:29:01 > 0:29:09discovered is he was the seventh Earl of Ulster. There are all kinds
0:29:09 > 0:29:18of connections. I know he was Richard of York. When they tested
0:29:18 > 0:29:24his DNA they found a trace... have time for you to tell us about
0:29:24 > 0:29:28your look ahead - just in a sentence. The negotiations over the
0:29:28 > 0:29:32next seven years is the big one. It could impact negatively on Northern
0:29:32 > 0:29:35Ireland. OK, we will look ahead for that. We leave it there. A busy