:00:26. > :00:28.Welcome to Winterbourne View. On the View tonight: The politics
:00:28. > :00:31.of apologies - unionists want one from the Irish Government.
:00:31. > :00:35.Victims' families travel south looking for explanations - but has
:00:35. > :00:38.it a case to answer for the Troubles?
:00:38. > :00:41.A "fiction too far" says the Fianna Fail leader - we'll hear live from
:00:41. > :00:44.Micheal Martin. And an IRA apology, but no
:00:44. > :00:46.convictions on the 25th anniversary of the Enniskillen bomb. Can the
:00:46. > :00:52.Victims' Commissioner, Kathryn Stone, find a new way forward for
:00:52. > :01:00.survivors? Also on the programme: the art of
:01:00. > :01:05.oratory - political speeches we have loved and loathed. A good
:01:05. > :01:08.speech will make people listen. A great speech inspires them.
:01:08. > :01:11.To discuss all of that, and to talk elections and selections, we'll
:01:11. > :01:14.hear from two other great talkers - commentators Paul McFadden and
:01:14. > :01:22.Adrianne Peltz. And you can, of course, follow the programme on
:01:22. > :01:28.Twitter, that's @BBCtheview. So are apologies ever enough?
:01:28. > :01:33.debate in the assembly left nobody in doubt about Unionists views
:01:33. > :01:38.about the early days of the Troubles. The DUP's Gregory
:01:38. > :01:44.Campbell pulled no punches. What we are doing is saying to Mr
:01:44. > :01:51.Kening, to the Irish Republic's Government, you acted as a midwife
:01:51. > :01:54.at the birth of the Provo monster that we had to deal with for 30
:01:55. > :01:59.years. The current Fianna Fail leader,
:02:00. > :02:03.Micheal Martin, said that the situation was confrontational.
:02:03. > :02:08.Micheal Martin joins us live from Dublin. Good evening, thank you
:02:08. > :02:12.very much for joining us on the programme, Micheal Martin.
:02:12. > :02:17.Good evening. There are those, Gregory Campbell,
:02:17. > :02:20.who feels that the Irish Government was responsible, at the least, for
:02:20. > :02:26.partly enabling the IRA to wage war on Northern Ireland is there ka
:02:26. > :02:30.case -- a case to answer? There is not. I understand fully the anger.
:02:30. > :02:37.It is still raw of many families, who have suffered at the hands of
:02:37. > :02:41.the Provisional IRA in a most grievous way. Losing loved ones.
:02:42. > :02:47.The IRA, fundally were responsible for the murder of over 1800 men,
:02:47. > :02:51.women and children. My basic view on this is that the people that
:02:51. > :02:54.have to apologise, again and again are the leaders of the Provisional
:02:54. > :03:00.IRA, those who orchestrated it, those who made the decisions in
:03:00. > :03:07.relation to the unnecessary murder and killing of so many people.
:03:07. > :03:09.We all know that the good -- the Good Friday Agreement has
:03:09. > :03:14.represented a triumph of constitutional politics over those
:03:14. > :03:19.who espoused violence as a means to resolving the issues at the heart
:03:19. > :03:25.of the Northern Ireland situation. But Sinn Fein... Micheal Martin,
:03:25. > :03:28.but Sinn Fein could not be clearer in its condemnation of dissident
:03:28. > :03:33.Republican violence? I would not agree on that. I think that the
:03:33. > :03:37.Sinn Fein have a problem in terms of credibility in attacking the
:03:37. > :03:41.activities of the Real IRA and the dissident Republicans as they are
:03:41. > :03:45.called, and the problem is we saw it again this week. When I was
:03:45. > :03:55.travelling up to the funeral of David Black, a prison officer,
:03:55. > :04:05.again, another appalling crime, I listened to, in creduality, about a
:04:05. > :04:05.
:04:05. > :04:10.campaign that the situation that was presented over the McCartney
:04:10. > :04:14.murder. This is at the same time that the PSNI are looking for
:04:14. > :04:18.people to co-operate with them in finding the killers of the David
:04:18. > :04:23.Black murder. So how can you condemn that activity, asking
:04:23. > :04:28.people to co-operate with the PSNI, and then campaigning outside of the
:04:28. > :04:33.headquarters and accusing, saying that dispilot you are a party of
:04:33. > :04:39.government, that you decide who the PSNI arrest. I find that staggering.
:04:39. > :04:43.Incredible. It undermines that point that you made in terms of
:04:43. > :04:47.Sinn Fein's credibility in really having a strong hand in undermining
:04:47. > :04:52.and in corn deming the work of dissident Republicans.
:04:52. > :04:55.We cannot talk about the Wilson case in detail it is obviously a
:04:55. > :04:59.live case. I am talking about the protests.
:04:59. > :05:02.But as the political party, does Sinn Fein not have the right to
:05:02. > :05:07.condemn the murder of David Black and also to protest at the arrest
:05:07. > :05:11.of one of its members if that is what it wants to do? It does not.
:05:11. > :05:14.It is a member of the executive. Part of the Government of Northern
:05:14. > :05:18.Ireland. We would find it extraordinary for any justice
:05:18. > :05:22.spokesperson or indeed a minister for justice or any leading member
:05:22. > :05:26.of a political party in government to actually protest against its own
:05:26. > :05:31.police. Against the police that you
:05:31. > :05:36.underpin, that is a central part of society, that is there to protect a
:05:36. > :05:41.citizen, there to uphold law and order, it is an extraordinary
:05:41. > :05:43.situation to be hold. You don't have that luxury in government, you
:05:43. > :05:47.cannot undermine your own Police Force.
:05:47. > :05:50.You would not want to be seen, would you, in any way undermining
:05:50. > :05:55.Sinn Fein for clearly criticising the individuals who were
:05:55. > :05:59.responsible for the murder of David Black? It was a good thing, was it
:05:59. > :06:03.not that Martin McGuinness stood along side Peter Robinson and
:06:03. > :06:06.called the people responsible idiots? I accept that and welcome
:06:06. > :06:11.that. But it is the Olster actions that
:06:11. > :06:16.the Sinn Fein have engaged that undermine that act. You can't have
:06:16. > :06:20.it both ways. I feel that it is actions and in relation to the
:06:20. > :06:25.picturing of the PSNI headquarters that undermines the message that
:06:25. > :06:30.was given that people should co- operate with the PSNI, should have
:06:30. > :06:33.faith and trust in it. Remember, we all if you like, we invested
:06:33. > :06:38.heavily in a new dispensation in the police. One of the great
:06:38. > :06:41.legacies of the Good Friday agreement has been the
:06:42. > :06:46.incorporation of the police. We have to look from outside, that the
:06:46. > :06:50.international people who have come to look at the reforms, reforms
:06:50. > :06:53.that were ground-breaking and act as a model for other areas of
:06:54. > :06:58.conflict in terms of how you develop a modern Police Force.
:06:58. > :07:03.Can I take a point where you say that Sinn Fein can't have it both
:07:03. > :07:07.ways and suggest that the Irish Government cannot have it both ways.
:07:07. > :07:12.It cannot condemn violence without facing up to the responsibility
:07:12. > :07:16.that it was in some way partly responsible for the violence of 40
:07:16. > :07:21.years ago. Do you think that there is a time to come that the Irish
:07:21. > :07:28.authorities will say that they were wrong for do this, that, the other,
:07:28. > :07:34.and say it should not have happened? I had a uncle in the
:07:34. > :07:38.guard in the '70s. I know some of the problems that they faced. I
:07:38. > :07:42.would reject a suggestion of collusion between the guardy and
:07:42. > :07:47.the army, as has been suggested in that debate and elsewhere by others
:07:47. > :07:53.at that time. They face many challenges, some lost their lives
:07:53. > :07:56.at the hands of the Provisional IRA. Up until recent times. So you can
:07:56. > :08:03.understand how we find the acquisition, that somehow we were
:08:03. > :08:09.responsible for the activities of the Provisional IRA. Now there is a
:08:09. > :08:15.complete analysis undertaken in the terms of the situation in the early
:08:15. > :08:18.'60s and '70s, what transpired -- transpired there, but I don't
:08:18. > :08:22.accept that the Irish Government was responsible for the situation
:08:22. > :08:29.in Northern Ireland and not responsible for the heinous crimes
:08:29. > :08:32.that the IRA were involved in. One of which that the families had to
:08:32. > :08:37.remember today, the anniversary of the horrendous crime at Enniskillen.
:08:37. > :08:44.So we feel strongly about that. I think it is important to put that
:08:44. > :08:48.on the record, to articulate the position we have on that issue.
:08:48. > :08:53.Gerry Adams, a TD n has said that the spat between his and your party
:08:53. > :08:59.is more to do with the lek torl politics in the South than with a
:08:59. > :09:03.concern that you have with what is happening in the North? I joined
:09:04. > :09:07.Fianna Fail as a young student in the '80s. Because of my interest
:09:07. > :09:12.and concern about Northern Ireland and the Ireland of Ireland and my
:09:12. > :09:17.desire to live in harmony, peace, unity, ultimately.
:09:17. > :09:21.This has nothing to do with the situation, I have a life-long
:09:21. > :09:27.interest in Northern Ireland. As a government minister I have had
:09:27. > :09:31.interaction with the North and as minister of Foreign Affairs.
:09:31. > :09:34.But at the moment, Sinn Fein is a real challenge as far as politics
:09:34. > :09:41.is concerned on the ground in the Republic. That is why you don't
:09:41. > :09:44.pass an opportunity to have a go at Sinn Fein? There is no electoral
:09:44. > :09:47.benefit whatsoever for me making statements about the North in the
:09:47. > :09:53.Republic. That is the reality. The reality is that the economic,
:09:53. > :09:56.social, the other issues are pro dominant. Micheal Martin making
:09:56. > :10:00.concerned speeches about Northern Ireland will not change the
:10:00. > :10:04.electoral dynamic. That is not the point. I feel as a Republican I
:10:04. > :10:12.have a responsibility. I don't want to see the politics in the North
:10:12. > :10:16.failing the people of the North. I believe that the Good Friday
:10:16. > :10:20.Agreement was more about violence. It hurts me to see that 46% of
:10:20. > :10:24.children born in Belfast or in West Belfast are in poverty. That
:10:24. > :10:30.Northern Ireland still has the highest industry of poverty in
:10:30. > :10:34.these islands. The highest level of economic inactivity of youth
:10:34. > :10:37.unemployment. Therefore as a Republican I feel an obligation and
:10:37. > :10:41.responsibility to contribute to that debate and to make my points.
:10:41. > :10:45.I am not bothered about the situation in the Republic, Sinn
:10:45. > :10:49.Fein deals with that. They deal with it robustly and competently as
:10:49. > :10:52.well. A final question on the matter of
:10:53. > :10:57.Sean Quinn. There are a lot of people in this jurisdiction who
:10:57. > :11:00.take a keen interest in Sean Quinn. They wonder whether or not the
:11:00. > :11:03.Dublin High Court was right to sentence Sean Quinn to nine weeks
:11:04. > :11:09.in jail for contempt of court. Do you think that the High Court got
:11:09. > :11:13.it right? Should he be hind bars tonight? I don't pass judgment on
:11:13. > :11:20.the courts. I uphold the decisions of the courts. We have a separation
:11:20. > :11:25.of powers in the Republic that we adhere to ridgely. -- ridgedly. We
:11:25. > :11:29.don't interfere or undermine the judgments of the court.
:11:29. > :11:32.We honour and respect the independence that the judiciary
:11:32. > :11:36.have had and have enjoyed since the foundation of the state and
:11:36. > :11:42.continue to do so. It is a sad situation. A person
:11:42. > :11:46.that created thousands of jobs, on this island, both sides of the
:11:46. > :11:51.border, he made a distinguished contribution, but unfortunately, I
:11:51. > :11:59.think, he madeorors of judgment as he himself admitted. Both in the
:11:59. > :12:02.context of the gambling relation to the Anglo-bank and the other
:12:02. > :12:05.behaviour that the courts have adjudicated on.
:12:05. > :12:13.Thank you very much for joining us on the programme.
:12:13. > :12:17.Now, our apologies ever enough. In 1997 Gerry Adams said sorry for the
:12:17. > :12:24.IRA's bombing of Enniskillen. It killed 12 people and injured more
:12:24. > :12:29.than 60, but would the people attending the service of the at
:12:29. > :12:37.thatth anniversary, today, feel comforted by that act of attrition?
:12:37. > :12:42.Relatives and senior politicians were there today to pay tribute.
:12:42. > :12:45.Among them, the Victims' Commissioner, Kathryn Stone.
:12:45. > :12:48.Kathryn Stone, thank you very much for coming to join us on the
:12:48. > :12:52.programme. Why did you feel it was important to be in Enniskillen
:12:52. > :12:58.today? I think as Victims' Commissioner it is very important
:12:58. > :13:04.for me to show respect to victims and to survivors and to show
:13:04. > :13:08.respect for those who have lost loved ones or been injure. I was
:13:08. > :13:13.privileged to be invited to take part in today's events.
:13:13. > :13:18.This job was to be a huge challenge for whoever was asked to do it. Why
:13:18. > :13:22.did you want to do it? You gave up a job in England to come and live
:13:22. > :13:26.and work in Northern Ireland, why? Because I feel that I can make a
:13:26. > :13:29.contribution to people who have been traumatised and who have been
:13:29. > :13:33.made victims. That was the work that I was doing
:13:33. > :13:38.in England. I feel that I can bring that knowledge, skill and
:13:38. > :13:43.experience to Northern Ireland. You met many of the victims of the
:13:43. > :13:48.Poppy Day bombing in Enniskillen, what did they say to you? I found
:13:48. > :13:53.it the most incredibly moving and emotional experience, meeting with
:13:53. > :13:58.the victims. It was emotional meeting with the families. They
:13:58. > :14:03.were very keen that the event was a time to reflect, and a time to
:14:03. > :14:10.remember. Interestingly, they were talking
:14:10. > :14:14.about their experiences of 25 years ago, saying that for many of them
:14:14. > :14:19.this 25-year anniversary was their same experience for them as it was
:14:19. > :14:24.last year, the year before, after two years, after six months, and it
:14:24. > :14:28.is just important that we remember that what has happened today, those
:14:28. > :14:32.people live with every day. So they were clearly victims,
:14:33. > :14:36.nobody would dispute that. On a broader canvass, how do you define
:14:36. > :14:42.the victims of the Troubles in Northern Ireland? It is very clear
:14:42. > :14:47.for me that the legislation is equally clear that victims are
:14:47. > :14:52.people who have been bereaved, who have been injured, or who are
:14:52. > :14:56.caring for people who have been injured whether that is a fiscal
:14:57. > :15:00.injury, or a psychological injury. Do you accept there is a hierarchy
:15:00. > :15:03.of victims? That is always the charge, that some victims are
:15:03. > :15:07.treated better than other victims? I appreciate that there are many
:15:07. > :15:11.people who hold that view. It is not a view that I hold as the
:15:11. > :15:15.Victims' Commissioner. I am here to support all of the victims across
:15:15. > :15:17.all sectors of the community who fit in the definition of
:15:18. > :15:22.legislation. So you say that the legislation is
:15:22. > :15:26.king as far as this is concerned. You took part in the event at
:15:26. > :15:30.Enniskillen, you read a prayer and talked to the victims.
:15:30. > :15:38.I did. On eight eight -- 8th May, 1987
:15:38. > :15:43.eight men were lying in wait to attack Loughgall. Eight civilians
:15:43. > :15:48.and one other was shot dead. If the families of Loughgall asked you to
:15:48. > :15:52.attend a vigil in their memory, you would go? I am here for all victims.
:15:52. > :15:57.A number of invitations come into the commission. We consider them
:15:57. > :16:02.carefully. My job represents the victims across all sectors.
:16:02. > :16:06.But having been here for six weeks, if you were to accept such a
:16:06. > :16:09.hypothetical invitation from the people of Loughgall that would
:16:09. > :16:12.immediately annoy and alienate another section of victims in
:16:12. > :16:16.Northern Ireland who would feel that you were selling them short?
:16:16. > :16:22.Do you accept that you have to be an arbiter in this case? You cannot
:16:22. > :16:26.quote the legislation. You have to make very difficult value judgments
:16:26. > :16:31.to do the job properly? appreciate that. You said that this
:16:31. > :16:35.is a demanding and challenging role. Those decisions and judgment calls
:16:35. > :16:40.are part of the challenges. The conversations that I have had with
:16:40. > :16:45.people who present those challenges to me every time I meet them, I
:16:45. > :16:49.have to be respectful of them and respectful of all sections of the
:16:49. > :16:53.community. How should we judge the success or
:16:53. > :16:57.otherwise of your tenure as Victims' Commissioner? I think that
:16:58. > :17:00.the most important judgment will be that of the victims, what the
:17:01. > :17:04.victims say. How successful or otherwise the victims feel that I
:17:04. > :17:09.have been. I appreciate that I am accountable to ministers, but for
:17:09. > :17:14.me, the accountability to the victims and to their Thames,
:17:14. > :17:19.including those I have met today and the ones that I have met on my
:17:19. > :17:22.travels around Northern Ireland in the past six months... But you know
:17:22. > :17:24.it will be a huge challenge? Absolutely.
:17:24. > :17:28.We watch your tenure with interest. Thank you very much.
:17:28. > :17:34.Thank you. Still to come: A dangerous place
:17:34. > :17:44.for a Political Correspondent, but is it the right place for an MP?
:17:44. > :17:45.
:17:45. > :17:50.is scary... Full of snakes in the grass... The best is yet to come,
:17:50. > :17:55.Barack Obama's promise to American in his 25-minute victory speech.
:17:55. > :18:03.The US President has been described as the greatest speaker of his
:18:03. > :18:07.generation, but what pandemic make as political speech live beyond
:18:07. > :18:12.today's headlines? It has been a creed written into the founding
:18:12. > :18:17.documents, declared the destiny of a nomination. Yes, we came...
:18:17. > :18:25.good speech makes people listen. A great speech will inspire them.
:18:25. > :18:32.This, it is their finest hour... Ask not what your country can do
:18:32. > :18:38.for you, ask what you can do for your country.
:18:38. > :18:43.This was Speaker's Corn e, back in the 19th century Belfast. Orders
:18:43. > :18:47.would come here to persuade and to cajole the crowd. So what make as
:18:47. > :18:51.good speech? You have to own the speech. You have to have a hand in
:18:51. > :18:56.writing it. You have to understand what the speech is trying to convey.
:18:57. > :19:02.You have to get it under your skin, so that when you stand up in front
:19:02. > :19:10.of 1,000 people, you have to deliver it like you mean it. Free
:19:10. > :19:17.at last! Free at last! Thank God almighty we are free at last.
:19:17. > :19:21.Martin Luther king. The biblical quotations, the humour as well. An
:19:21. > :19:27.incredible speech. Powerful speeches from the powerful
:19:27. > :19:31.define a period of history, but are also living on. Talked about
:19:31. > :19:37.centuries later. He denounced a treaty between
:19:37. > :19:40.Britain and Ireland... Carson like Churchill would have penned his own
:19:40. > :19:43.speeches. Speeches now are more sanitised.
:19:43. > :19:48.They lack the element of surprise. Perhaps there is a ringing phrase
:19:48. > :19:58.there, but it is thought up by some Oxbridge graduate on your team.
:19:58. > :19:59.
:19:59. > :20:05.Whereas with Gladstone, Redman, with Paisley, with Wee Joe, it was
:20:05. > :20:09.something within themselves. Theres were speechs that did touch
:20:09. > :20:14.points for Ed Miliband. It got him a bounce in the polls, some called
:20:14. > :20:17.it a game-changer. Was it? I don't think so. If the
:20:17. > :20:22.political journalists and the commentators get what the person is
:20:22. > :20:26.trying to say, they then actually act as the ambassadors.
:20:26. > :20:30.That means media disaster when it goes wrong.
:20:30. > :20:36.Could somebody turn off the lights, please.
:20:36. > :20:39.I am blinded... That problem is rare these days as the experts take
:20:39. > :20:44.control of the events and the message.
:20:44. > :20:51.Now it is so artificial. I have seenmph and Barack Obama. They come
:20:51. > :20:54.into the auditorium with up to 3,000 people, pointing. There is a
:20:54. > :21:02.person they have gone to high school with, they are pointing to
:21:02. > :21:07.nowhere. It is false, but this is how they are done. There is little
:21:07. > :21:13.improvisation. We should never, never, never... Yes, that kind of
:21:13. > :21:17.freedom from perhaps our most famous orator seems long gone and
:21:17. > :21:24.Stormont is a far cry from street oratory.
:21:24. > :21:31.The department failed to consider the impact of welfare reform...
:21:31. > :21:36.Such sums, to see fit as any expenditure in connection with
:21:36. > :21:41.APD... The original intention of the minister in clause two, page
:21:41. > :21:46.two, line 32... Stormont's lack of opposition may be stifling the art
:21:46. > :21:51.of the speech, but it remains a vital weapon. Especially in the
:21:51. > :21:57.battle for the most powerful job in the world.
:21:57. > :22:01.It defines people. You can see it in the United States, over Obama
:22:01. > :22:06.versus Romney. The phrase that makes the headlines in the
:22:06. > :22:10.following day. The pithy phrase, something that
:22:10. > :22:14.Abraham Lincoln understood his famous address at Gettysburg was
:22:14. > :22:18.just two minutes, but lasted two centuries.
:22:18. > :22:22.Some of the finest speakers that the political world has known in
:22:22. > :22:27.that report from Martina Purdy. A few who may also still have a thing
:22:27. > :22:34.or two to learn. Let's hear from our two
:22:34. > :22:40.commentators, we have joining our regular face, Paul McFadden and
:22:40. > :22:44.Adrianne Peltz. Paul, let's talk about Micheal Martin. Again, no
:22:44. > :22:51.punches pulled in his assessment of what Sinn Fein needs to do as far
:22:52. > :22:58.as the past is concerned? I think it was a resuming of hostilities.
:22:58. > :23:04.It was noticeable he picked up again on the theme which he began,
:23:04. > :23:07.or launched a fee weeks ago, being critical of the record of the
:23:07. > :23:09.Northern Ireland Executive and Sinn Fein given the role on the
:23:09. > :23:14.executive and talking about the record in West Belfast, which has
:23:14. > :23:21.to hit home with the Sinn Fein as a party and presumably the electorate
:23:21. > :23:27.in West Belfast as well. One of the highest cities with the highest
:23:27. > :23:31.problems of poverty in nearly. It would have you believe he is being
:23:31. > :23:36.ignanimous. That there is no mileage. I think it is a battle for
:23:36. > :23:40.the hearts and the minds of the Republicans in Ireland. It is
:23:40. > :23:44.battle-on. They are very much neck and neck?
:23:44. > :23:49.Recently, Micheal Martin and Fianna Fail overtook Sinn Fein.
:23:49. > :23:53.Fianna Fail went up four points, Sinn Fein down four points? I think
:23:53. > :23:59.he could not have foreseen that a few months ago. So there is a keen
:23:59. > :24:03.battle fought between the two. Adrianne, about Kathryn Stone, the
:24:03. > :24:07.first television interview for her as the capacity as the Victims'
:24:07. > :24:13.Commissioner. Were you struck by what she had to say? I think that
:24:13. > :24:18.Kathryn Stone hit the nail on the head in terms of respecting victims
:24:18. > :24:23.and sure vievors. She is the right person to take forward the process.
:24:24. > :24:29.But it will be challenging? Absolutely. For anyone to do it is
:24:30. > :24:33.a challenge. Paul, a word on the Moment of the Week? Money? The
:24:33. > :24:37.announcement that �200 million of extra money if the politicians here
:24:37. > :24:41.were doing nothing about the current financial predicament, we
:24:41. > :24:45.would be down on them like a tonne of -- tonne of bricks, so they have
:24:45. > :24:51.done something on the credit side, but to say I was underwhelmed is
:24:51. > :24:54.wrong, but I am not hugely impressed by it. �200 million is a
:24:54. > :25:02.drop in the ocean given the problems that we face, but there
:25:02. > :25:06.are interesting things in the announcement, that of 500 extra
:25:06. > :25:11.places, I would love to see them come to Derry.
:25:11. > :25:16.Well, is it OK, is there a question for the MP to swap the benches of
:25:16. > :25:22.Westminster for the Australian jungle? Well, MP Nadine Dorries
:25:22. > :25:27.seems to think it is. We sent Gareth Gordon to the closest thing
:25:27. > :25:37.we have to our jungle, to test the opinion on Street View.
:25:37. > :25:38.
:25:39. > :25:47.It is scary... And full of snakes in the grass... And creepy things...
:25:47. > :25:54.Just the place, then, for an MP! Have you heard the story on the
:25:54. > :26:01.news about the MP who is going to take part in I'm a Celebrity, Get
:26:01. > :26:07.Me Out of Here? Yes. What do you think? I don't think it
:26:07. > :26:12.is important for her to be on TV. She is not representing the people
:26:12. > :26:16.properly. He is having a party in the jungle. Is she donating the
:26:16. > :26:22.money to somebody? Or donating it to charity.
:26:22. > :26:26.Is there a local MP you would like to send into the jungle? INAUDIBLE.
:26:26. > :26:32.Could you see Paisley and Gerry Adams and some of them, Martin
:26:32. > :26:36.McGuinness, lining up in the jungle? Could you? It would be
:26:36. > :26:42.funny. Good to watch. That would be good TV.
:26:42. > :26:46.So, should Nadine Dorries have gone to the jungle, Adrianne? I am not
:26:46. > :26:51.Nadine's biggest fan. I will not lie. Although I am looking forward
:26:51. > :26:56.to seeing a softer side to Nadine and doing Bushtucker trials.
:26:56. > :27:01.A lot of people think it is the best place for her. She is in a lot
:27:01. > :27:06.of trouble when she gets home? would be appalled if it was my MP
:27:06. > :27:11.going off to do this. I would say that there are a few Tories happy
:27:11. > :27:17.to see her sucking her teeth at a few scary animals. Adrianne, what
:27:17. > :27:21.is the treat of the week? It is the amazing picture of Barack Obama, it
:27:21. > :27:26.has smashed all social media records this week, with incredible
:27:26. > :27:33.emotion. He tweeted: Four more years.
:27:33. > :27:38.Absolutely four more years. It has been tweeted00,000 times. 3.5
:27:38. > :27:42.million on Facebook. It underlines what the campaign was about. It was
:27:42. > :27:47.about social media. Getting out to young people. Teting them to vote.
:27:47. > :27:55.It has been fantastic. Paul, the tweet of the week is not
:27:55. > :28:04.unrelated -- unrelated? Yes, it was born out by my tweet of the week a
:28:04. > :28:07.texter on BBC Radio Foyle who said: Listened to Obama's victory speech,
:28:07. > :28:13.not a mention of Derry. He is out of touch.
:28:13. > :28:18.I agree with that. Are you surprised he did not
:28:18. > :28:22.mention Derry hiv? Appalled. I demand a re-count.
:28:22. > :28:27.Adrianne? I think to watch this week we need to watch the Chinese
:28:27. > :28:31.leader selection it kicked off today. Seven days of the party
:28:31. > :28:33.conference. 2,000 delegates. I will be watching closely. We have a lot
:28:33. > :28:38.of Chinese students in Northern Ireland. I think that Northern
:28:38. > :28:41.Ireland has a big part to play in getting to know what Chinese
:28:41. > :28:45.students need. A big contrast between the
:28:45. > :28:50.selection in China and the election in the United States for sure.
:28:50. > :28:55.Paul, a final thought on what you are looking forward to? The SBLP
:28:55. > :28:58.conference that happens tomorrow and the day after. It will not last
:28:58. > :29:02.for seven days. We hope that they get the lighting
:29:02. > :29:09.correct. That is it from The View.