:00:05. > :00:32.Tonight, two murders and ten major security alert in just four days.
:00:32. > :00:34.Will recent events damage the international investment conference
:00:34. > :00:39.which got underway tonight? The Secretary of State joins me live
:00:39. > :00:45.from Hillsborough Castle with her thoughts. With me in the studio, or
:00:45. > :00:51.the McGuinness, Pat Sheehan and Jeffery Donaldson. Also tonight.
:00:51. > :00:53.After his brother is found guilty of child sex abuse, does Gerry Adams
:00:53. > :01:00.have questions to answer? I will be reporting. And here to debate the
:01:00. > :01:06.investment conference and the continuing dissident threat, our
:01:06. > :01:08.commentators Professors Heenan and Wilford.
:01:08. > :01:17.You can follow the rogue RAM on twitter. -- you can follow the
:01:17. > :01:22.programme on twitter. It is being billed as an opportunity
:01:22. > :01:25.to take Northern Ireland to another level economically and tonight some
:01:25. > :01:28.of the leading business figures of the area are at Ellsberg Castle
:01:28. > :01:34.attending a dinner to start the Northern Ireland investment
:01:34. > :01:40.conference. It is well police open in quiet -- it is while police open
:01:40. > :01:46.enquiries into the death of Kevin Carey and Ari McCrory. Will they
:01:46. > :01:54.overshadow events? -- Kevin Carey and Barry McCrory. Is there a real
:01:54. > :02:02.danger that the two murders in two days will overshadow the investment
:02:02. > :02:05.conference? These were two horrific crimes and I have huge sympathy with
:02:06. > :02:11.the families who have lost their loved ones. But I do think it is
:02:11. > :02:17.important for the investment conference to go ahead. There is a
:02:17. > :02:20.very up beat message, of course there are issues in Northern Ireland
:02:20. > :02:27.still to be resolved. And incidents like this and straight --
:02:27. > :02:30.still to be resolved. And incidents demonstrate how significant some of
:02:30. > :02:34.those problems are. There is also a huge progress that has been made and
:02:34. > :02:40.it is true that Northern Ireland is a great place to live and
:02:40. > :02:42.investment. That is the message that the executive and the UK government
:02:42. > :02:46.are taking to some very major business figures who are here this
:02:46. > :02:51.evening in Hillsborough and who will be covered in Belfast tomorrow. Are
:02:51. > :02:57.you now clear that dissident republicans were responsible for the
:02:58. > :03:02.two murders? I think it is too premature to reach that conclusion.
:03:02. > :03:07.Certainly many people believe that to be the case. But I would urge
:03:07. > :03:11.anyone with information about who might be responsible to speak to the
:03:11. > :03:16.police. I know the police will be working incredibly hard to bring to
:03:16. > :03:24.justice the people responsible for these horrific crimes. There is no
:03:24. > :03:29.justification, no excuse for report murders -- brutal murders of this
:03:29. > :03:33.sort. The fact it come so soon after the shooting in east Belfast is
:03:33. > :03:37.despicable. I would urge anyone with information to come forward to make
:03:37. > :03:41.sure that everything can be done to bring to justice the people
:03:41. > :03:45.responsible. The chief constable has made it clear recently that he needs
:03:45. > :03:49.in his view more investment in policing here. The funding is not
:03:50. > :03:54.there to recruit the number of officers he says he needs to keep
:03:54. > :03:59.his numbers at the critical 7000 mark. Will the Treasury stepped in
:03:59. > :04:03.to supplement the cost of policing? The Treasury already does that. In
:04:03. > :04:10.this spending review and the next one. We take our national security
:04:10. > :04:14.responsibilities very seriously. I am having a very helpful dialogue
:04:14. > :04:18.with the chief constable, and the justice minister about the issues
:04:18. > :04:22.you have raised. It is not impossible that additional funds
:04:22. > :04:26.could be forthcoming from the Treasury but that is not guaranteed,
:04:26. > :04:30.it will depend on future spending rounds. It is also the case that the
:04:30. > :04:34.majority of funding for policing in Northern Ireland comes from the
:04:34. > :04:38.executive from the block grant, so this is primarily a matter for the
:04:38. > :04:45.executive. I am very much engaged in this and we are looking carefully at
:04:45. > :04:49.the research work the chief constable has done on the resources
:04:49. > :04:52.he needs. We will have to see what we can do to ensure that he
:04:52. > :04:57.continues to get the resources that he needs. But we are all operating
:04:57. > :05:00.under constrained budgets. What are your hopes, moving on, for the
:05:00. > :05:07.number of new investors this conference might be bringing to
:05:07. > :05:15.Northern Ireland? I have not set the jobs target, but we have had some
:05:15. > :05:21.significant good news in terms of jobs announcements today. I think
:05:21. > :05:23.the Prime Minister's participation tomorrow is going to provide a real
:05:23. > :05:31.boost. And Northern Ireland is a great place to sell. It is a
:05:31. > :05:35.low-cost environment, it has a highly skilled, very dedicated and
:05:35. > :05:40.loyal workforce. It has a business friendly regulatory and tax climate.
:05:40. > :05:45.All of these things are explanations as to why the big investors who come
:05:45. > :05:49.to Northern Ireland have invested again and -- expanded their
:05:49. > :05:55.operations. It will be groups like Citigroup who are addressing the
:05:55. > :06:00.conference tomorrow, explaining what a positive experience they have had,
:06:00. > :06:05.explaining why they came to Northern Ireland and have expanded their
:06:05. > :06:09.operations. Are you concerned about the recent OECD report that says
:06:09. > :06:15.though is a huge problem with young people 's new Morrissey and literacy
:06:15. > :06:20.skills? That is not want -- numerous the literacy skills? That is not
:06:20. > :06:29.want investors want to hear. That is not what is being suggested. The
:06:29. > :06:36.Northern Ireland education system produces some fabulous results. But
:06:36. > :06:41.everyone would acknowledge that every education system has areas
:06:41. > :06:44.where it could do better. Educational underachievement is
:06:44. > :06:48.something which is a concern in Northern Ireland and I know the
:06:48. > :06:54.executive take that very seriously. I think there is no taking away from
:06:54. > :06:58.the fact that one of the many reasons why Northern Ireland has had
:06:58. > :07:02.such success and inward investment is the quality of its workforce. But
:07:02. > :07:07.yes, clearly there is more work to be done in terms particularly with
:07:07. > :07:10.early intervention, early years education, and I know this is
:07:10. > :07:15.something that the education minister and the executive is
:07:15. > :07:18.focused on dealing with. How do you think we should judge the success or
:07:19. > :07:25.otherwise of this conference? How will we know if it's has achieved
:07:25. > :07:31.what it set out to achieve? I think if it has, in the months to come,
:07:31. > :07:34.some of the participants in this conference either expand the
:07:34. > :07:41.operation is a already have here or make decisions to invest in the
:07:42. > :07:46.first time, that will be a sign that the conference has succeeded. I hope
:07:46. > :07:50.tomorrow there will be good news from current investors about the
:07:50. > :07:56.expansion plans as well. We have had a strained relationship between the
:07:56. > :08:00.first Minister and the Deputy first Minister for some months now, we
:08:00. > :08:04.have seen them to date singing from the same song sheet, but are you
:08:05. > :08:08.concerned that deteriorating relations between the two main
:08:08. > :08:12.parties in general will not persuade people to invest? There was a very
:08:12. > :08:18.parties in general will not persuade strong united front from the first
:08:18. > :08:25.and Deputy first Minister, both of them were very clear on the
:08:25. > :08:28.importance of working together, the stability of critical institutions.
:08:28. > :08:30.Both of them emphasised that. They were singing from the same hymn
:08:31. > :08:35.sheet. I think that is a demonstration that their work is
:08:35. > :08:40.underway. I have said this many times, working in any coalition
:08:40. > :08:47.gives rise to pensions and bumps in the road. If you are working in a
:08:47. > :08:51.5-part coalition with parties from diametrically opposed viewpoints on
:08:52. > :08:57.all sorts of issues, constitutional and economic, there will be times
:08:57. > :09:00.where it is difficult to make progress and get agreement on
:09:00. > :09:04.issues. I think tonight demonstrated the continuing strength of the
:09:04. > :09:10.working relationships between the first and deputy first minister. We
:09:10. > :09:17.will let you get back to your guests in help the parcel. -- Hillsborough
:09:17. > :09:21.Castle. I am joined by Pat Sheehan, Alden McGuinness and Jeffery
:09:21. > :09:26.Donaldson. You are all welcome. Pat Sheehan first of all, we have come
:09:26. > :09:29.onto talk about the investment conference, but the two murders we
:09:29. > :09:35.have witnessed in as many days appeared to have been carried out by
:09:35. > :09:37.dissident republicans. That is the backdrop against which we see this
:09:37. > :09:42.investment conference taking place. Do they not demonstrate very clearly
:09:42. > :09:47.that the vice like grip that Sinn Fein once had on republicanism does
:09:47. > :09:53.not exist any more? I do not agree with your comment about a vice like
:09:53. > :09:58.grip. Leaving that to the side for a minute, these dissidents appear to
:09:58. > :10:02.have stepped up their activities over the past couple of days
:10:02. > :10:06.deliberately aimed at undermining any positivity that might come out
:10:06. > :10:09.of this conference. The fact is they have nothing to offer. They have
:10:09. > :10:13.very little support within our communities. And all they have
:10:13. > :10:18.achieved here is to leave two men dead and two families grieving. Even
:10:18. > :10:22.in terms of dealing with the drugs issue, killing people doesn't work.
:10:22. > :10:27.Was this about criminality or pyre -- political ideology? The hypocrisy
:10:27. > :10:31.of some of these groups beggars belief cost it is a well-known fact
:10:31. > :10:35.that some of them are extorting money from drug dealers to line
:10:35. > :10:41.their own pockets and they are involved in other types of
:10:41. > :10:45.comparative. They are in no position to tell this community that they are
:10:46. > :10:52.acting on the behalf of some sort of police force. The problem that you
:10:52. > :10:55.have, that may or may not be the case, but they still continue to
:10:55. > :11:01.operate in the communities which you represent. You are in west Belfast.
:11:01. > :11:06.This murder today took place in Derry. There was a murder yesterday
:11:06. > :11:09.in North Belfast. Dissidents are able to operate in Republican
:11:09. > :11:15.heartland, you cannot stop them. Absolutely. And the way to stop
:11:15. > :11:17.them, bear in mind it is not just dissident republicans, there was a
:11:17. > :11:21.young woman shot and seriously dissident republicans, there was a
:11:21. > :11:25.injured in east Belfast as well. There are other anti-agreement
:11:25. > :11:28.elements out there who wants to undermine institutions. The way to
:11:28. > :11:37.undermine then is to ensure that the institutions of rock -- rock solid.
:11:37. > :11:40.The partnership is aimed as an anecdote to the valid activity of
:11:41. > :11:44.these groups, and to sectarianism within society. So all political
:11:44. > :11:49.leaders need to stand up and set up within society. So all political
:11:49. > :11:52.to the mark. Is there a policing solution to this situation at the
:11:52. > :12:00.moment? Two in part there is a policing solution. But what we have
:12:00. > :12:03.got here is a very bad combination. One is bad things happening on the
:12:03. > :12:10.ground in north Belfast and Derry, but also in addition to that we have
:12:10. > :12:15.got bad politics. When you take the accommodation of bad politics, as
:12:15. > :12:21.highlighted with the decision on the Maze and DUP and Sinn Fein attacking
:12:21. > :12:26.one another and the divisive nature of the executive, I think that
:12:26. > :12:31.creates an atmosphere in which those who are dissident, whether it be
:12:32. > :12:39.Loyalist or Republican, art able to exercise a disproportional influence
:12:39. > :12:40.in the community. It also creates a very bad image internationally for
:12:40. > :12:44.all of us. We have got to get back very bad image internationally for
:12:44. > :12:49.to the principles of partnership. And working together, -- Catholic
:12:49. > :13:01.and Protestant, to build together the community and new.
:13:01. > :13:09.We saw them to standing up tonight and talking to potential investors
:13:09. > :13:14.so at times they can do that. I salute that can pay tribute to that
:13:14. > :13:18.sort of stance. Unfortunately it does not go much further than that.
:13:18. > :13:23.What we have got to do is rebuild the whole nature of the executive
:13:23. > :13:28.and the Assembly in terms of recreating a genuine partnership of
:13:28. > :13:34.goodwill between both communities and both political traditions. I
:13:34. > :13:38.will come on to that political dimension to the conversation in
:13:38. > :13:44.just a moment but I want to talk about the security situation. Other
:13:44. > :13:48.police overstretched, as the police constable suggests, he says he
:13:48. > :13:50.needs more resources? There are lot of things happening and
:13:50. > :13:55.unfortunately two families have been plunged into tragedy and we
:13:55. > :13:57.have seen a whole series of alerts in Belfast in the past few days.
:13:57. > :14:01.have seen a whole series of alerts That is very true. First of all I
:14:01. > :14:06.would want to say that we condemn these murders are unequivocally. It
:14:06. > :14:11.is dreadful that yet again we have people out on our streets
:14:11. > :14:14.committing cold-blooded murder and, indeed, we condemn the attempted
:14:14. > :14:18.committing cold-blooded murder and, murder of the young woman in east
:14:18. > :14:20.Belfast. Anyone who takes guns on to the streets has nothing to offer
:14:20. > :14:25.Belfast. Anyone who takes guns on the community, regardless of what
:14:25. > :14:30.colour they where or what their motivation is supposed to be a. The
:14:30. > :14:36.second thing I would say is this, we need to stand together and we
:14:36. > :14:39.need to show a united front. I have heard what Alban Maginness said
:14:39. > :14:44.when he spoke about partnership. Would it not be a good thing if,
:14:44. > :14:48.for example in the interests of partnership, and the interests of
:14:48. > :14:52.tackling the organised crime that is at the heart of this type of
:14:52. > :14:58.paramilitary activity that we are witnessing, if Alban Maginness's
:14:58. > :15:02.party supported the organised crime agency that was established this
:15:02. > :15:06.week could operate in Northern Ireland. Wouldn't it be great if
:15:06. > :15:11.senior members of the DUP spoke -- thought long and hard if they would
:15:11. > :15:17.support a protest that was costing £50,000 a day to get back at their
:15:17. > :15:20.chief constable? I have been up at the protest during the day and
:15:20. > :15:22.there was one police Land-Rover there and it is completely peaceful.
:15:22. > :15:26.there was one police Land-Rover I do nothing that is the problem
:15:26. > :15:31.for the police. I heard it is costing 50p -- a lot of money per
:15:31. > :15:34.for the police. I heard it is day. When people were cheering for
:15:34. > :15:39.the reduction in police numbers down to their current level, there
:15:39. > :15:42.would be a problem. When difficulty arose, as inevitably it they would,
:15:42. > :15:46.we knew the police would be stretched and that is what is
:15:46. > :15:49.happening. We recognise there is a need to increase police resources
:15:49. > :15:53.because they should not have been cut to this level in the first
:15:53. > :15:58.instance. If you're arguing that the problem for the police is a
:15:58. > :16:03.peaceful protest with a handful of people at Twaddell Avenue, and is
:16:03. > :16:07.under dissident threat of the head of MI5 this week identified as the
:16:07. > :16:11.serious threat that it is, but also said it would be defeated. I am not
:16:11. > :16:14.arguing that, but what I am suggesting is that maybe this is a
:16:14. > :16:19.distraction for the police that they could do without at a time
:16:19. > :16:21.like this. We have at their -- we live in a democratic society and
:16:21. > :16:23.people have the right to protest peacefully and within the law. They
:16:23. > :16:27.have the right but is a peacefully and within the law. They
:16:27. > :16:31.responsible? What would be responsible is if for the seven
:16:31. > :16:34.minutes it would take for that parade to walk on a stretch of the
:16:34. > :16:37.main road that does not belong to anybody except the public in
:16:37. > :16:39.Northern Ireland, to complete its route, then we would not have this
:16:39. > :16:44.Northern Ireland, to complete its kind of problem. Absolutely, a lot
:16:44. > :16:48.of people think that is the case, but in the absence of that, is it
:16:48. > :16:54.sensible to continue with the process -- protest at a cost of
:16:54. > :16:56.£50,000 a day? If we should see a bit of tolerance in our society.
:16:56. > :17:01.£50,000 a day? If we should see a That is what we really need to say.
:17:01. > :17:04.I would suggest that Geoffrey showed advise those people who have
:17:04. > :17:07.made their point at Twaddell Avenue, they have made their point and
:17:07. > :17:12.everybody knows the. They are making, let them suspender protest
:17:12. > :17:19.and suspend trying to go up the road and let them partake in the
:17:19. > :17:25.process to find a solution within it, or alternatively talk to the
:17:25. > :17:28.residents on the Ardoyne side. Let us talk about the investment
:17:28. > :17:29.conference. We heard what the Secretary of State had to say and a
:17:29. > :17:38.lot of people are hoping for a all we Libya triumph of style over
:17:38. > :17:42.substance? First of all to go back to the previous point, I think we
:17:42. > :17:44.should stop calling it a peaceful process. It is designed to raise
:17:44. > :17:48.tension right on the interface. It process. It is designed to raise
:17:48. > :17:54.is on the end to face, the most volatile and phase in the North.
:17:54. > :17:57.That is what the people in the organisation said is about. If they
:17:57. > :18:02.are interested in a peaceful protest Test, why not ruled --
:18:02. > :18:09.effect written a peaceful protest, why not move it back? Back in the
:18:09. > :18:14.conference, I would be optimistic that this is going to produce some
:18:14. > :18:17.jobs. I think it can only do God and -- do good and it is the we
:18:18. > :18:21.should all support and support robustly. How would you judge if it
:18:21. > :18:25.is a success? I think we would judge in terms of jobs and
:18:25. > :18:29.investment, coming into Northern Ireland, and we will be able to see
:18:29. > :18:34.that in the next 12 months. Are you optimistic? There are 120 interest
:18:34. > :18:40.groups according to the Secretary of State, 14 governments and 55
:18:40. > :18:44.potential investors, we ought to be able to get something out of it but
:18:44. > :18:45.we Libya enough? There are many regions in the UK who would give
:18:45. > :18:50.their eye teeth to have this kind regions in the UK who would give
:18:50. > :18:54.of investment conference. We have done well to get these people here.
:18:54. > :18:58.I am confident that there will be positive results. Already we have
:18:58. > :19:03.had indications that many of the people who have come here have come
:19:03. > :19:05.here with a purpose, which is to invest in Northern Ireland. I
:19:05. > :19:09.believe therefore that is where the real hope for this community is.
:19:09. > :19:11.Four we need to leave it there. Thank you very much for joining us
:19:11. > :19:14.Four we need to leave it there. on the programme tonight. Next a
:19:15. > :19:19.story that has dominated the headlines here and in the republic
:19:19. > :19:22.for the past week. Gerry Adams. Questions are still being asked
:19:22. > :19:23.about what steps the Sinn Fein president to have to inform the
:19:23. > :19:26.about what steps the Sinn Fein authorities here about his brother,
:19:27. > :19:33.convicted last week of raping and abusing his daughter over a six-
:19:33. > :19:34.week period. The Police Ombudsman and the Attorney-General are
:19:34. > :19:37.week period. The Police Ombudsman examining the case. Gerry Adams
:19:37. > :19:40.said his brother confess to him in the year 2000 dancers he did not
:19:40. > :19:43.tell the police immediately although he insists he has done
:19:43. > :19:49.nothing wrong. Where does all this leave him now? Stephen Walker has
:19:49. > :19:58.been to Dublin and Dundalk to see what people they think.
:19:58. > :20:05.This has been in Gerry Adams's political home since 2011, when he
:20:05. > :20:09.became a ETD for this town. It is also the town where his brother was
:20:09. > :20:14.a year if worker. This story has two parts, the personal and the
:20:14. > :20:18.political. Gerry Adams insists there are certain sections of the
:20:18. > :20:23.media and some of his opponents are trying to politicise a family
:20:23. > :20:28.tragedy. Others insist that the Sinn Fein president has serious
:20:28. > :20:33.questions to answer. Has all of this damaged Gerry Adams? If it has,
:20:33. > :20:39.this is the place where you would find out first. On the streets of
:20:39. > :20:43.Dundalk, support for the local TD appears strong. Do you think you
:20:43. > :20:47.have any questions to answer? No, I don't. I don't think so. He is not
:20:47. > :20:52.personally involved with any of it so why does he have to answer? Did
:20:52. > :20:57.he know about it or did he not? If he was aware of what was going on,
:20:57. > :21:01.why did he not stand up and say it? I don't think he has been damaged
:21:01. > :21:03.at all by its strange enough. From what I fear of Gerry Adams, you get
:21:03. > :21:07.at all by its strange enough. From what you see. I think it is unfair
:21:07. > :21:12.the way it has been so publicised. It is a private matter and that so
:21:12. > :21:20.I think it is unfair on them. This man edits the local paper. He says
:21:20. > :21:23.that Gerry Adams's account raises questions. Obviously the
:21:23. > :21:28.Republicans to stare -- historically would not have co-
:21:28. > :21:31.operated with the security services. There was a question why there was
:21:31. > :21:35.a time lag and that is a difficult question to which she does not have
:21:35. > :21:40.a clear answer. I do not think he has come up with a clear answer.
:21:40. > :21:44.The story of Liam Adams's conviction has dominated the news
:21:44. > :21:48.in the past week. Gerry Adams insists that he has done nothing
:21:48. > :21:52.wrong. I know that I committed no offence and I did what I considered
:21:52. > :22:00.to be the right thing and I co- operated fully with the PSNI, the
:22:00. > :22:05.PPS, the courts and I gave evidence in the court, so I don't have any
:22:05. > :22:11.concerns. Like Gerry Adams, Mary Mumford represents the people of
:22:11. > :22:15.Dundalk. The Labour servitor feels that the Sinn Fein president must
:22:15. > :22:19.provide some answers. It would concern me about the allegations
:22:19. > :22:23.that have been made. If he had known about the allegations and he
:22:23. > :22:24.had not reported them then I think he has some serious questions that
:22:24. > :22:35.had not reported them then I think need to be answered. I think any to
:22:35. > :22:40.be answered now. She is not her lap - Rishi is not alone. Others agree.
:22:40. > :22:44.Mr Adams should make a statement of what knowledge she had and what
:22:44. > :22:47.knowledge he passed on of wrong doing. Other organisations and
:22:47. > :22:52.indeed a member of his own party have called for him to come forward
:22:52. > :22:56.and make that explanation. Do you think he held information back? I
:22:56. > :22:57.will not accuse him because I do not know but I think he should make
:22:57. > :23:02.will not accuse him because I do it clear statement about what
:23:02. > :23:04.knowledge she had and clearer tore up. Gerry Adams insists that those
:23:04. > :23:10.knowledge she had and clearer tore who have attacked him recently are
:23:10. > :23:19.politically motivated. I do take exception to the quite despicable
:23:19. > :23:27.lobby that is going on. I learnt that the DUP and some of them
:23:27. > :23:35.anyway, are coming at this in a very political way so I totally
:23:35. > :23:38.reject that. So, are the opponents of Sinn Fein simply playing
:23:38. > :23:42.politics? Some opponents suggest that there are parallels with the
:23:42. > :23:47.Catholic Church. There is very little tolerance for non reporting
:23:47. > :23:50.of child abuse. We have seen too many bad stories if so it is a very
:23:50. > :23:54.difficult one for Gerry Adams to explain to the public why it seems
:23:54. > :23:59.that he did not report instantly in this case and that is the essential
:23:59. > :24:03.difficulty for him. This used to be the Harland for Gerry Adams and it
:24:04. > :24:11.is also part of the Liam Adams story, he was a youth worker here.
:24:11. > :24:15.This man is a former IRA prisoner and a critic of Sinn Fein. He
:24:15. > :24:18.claims that Liam Adams was protected and first that in the
:24:18. > :24:26.past suspected child abusers were shot by the IRA. The Republican
:24:26. > :24:30.movement would have responded to that by sending a punishment squad
:24:30. > :24:34.random shooting them a couple of times in the legs. They would have
:24:34. > :24:38.made it clear it was an abuser. It is a bad way of dealing with things
:24:38. > :24:41.but that was the way it was done then. The bad thing is that the
:24:41. > :24:47.issue has become so high up within then. The bad thing is that the
:24:47. > :24:56.the republican family and the way it has been dealt with. That causes
:24:56. > :24:58.major problems I believe for the credibility of Gerry Adams. The
:24:59. > :25:06.Gertrude Frankham has suffered the most in this entire story is
:25:06. > :25:11.undoubtedly Aine Adams. Four months her tragedy has become front-page
:25:11. > :25:14.news. Liam Adams may have been convicted but as the Police
:25:14. > :25:19.Ombudsman and the Attorney General begin fresh investigations, serious
:25:19. > :25:27.Ombudsman and the Attorney General questions still remain.
:25:27. > :25:31.Joining me tonight are Professor Deidre Heenan and Rick Wilford.
:25:31. > :25:34.Thank you very much for being here. First of all let us talk about the
:25:34. > :25:39.investment conference. We had a live interview with the Secretary
:25:39. > :25:41.of State there. What are your hopes and expectations for what it might
:25:41. > :25:56.deliver? We know that it will attract
:25:56. > :26:04.investment and that is a long-term process. We note from 2008,
:26:04. > :26:07.companies have said they are acting as advocates and Northern Ireland.
:26:07. > :26:11.There is enormous international goodwill and we need to grab hold of
:26:11. > :26:16.it while it is still there, it will not last forever. It is important
:26:16. > :26:20.that we put our best foot forward and showcase what Northern Ireland
:26:20. > :26:27.has to offer. Applicable to deputy first minister who said 75 of
:26:27. > :26:30.company -- 75% of companies who invest here will invest again? Two
:26:30. > :26:40.it is about our work force. We are invest here will invest again? Two
:26:40. > :26:45.getting people to sell Northern Ireland on our behalf, those
:26:45. > :26:49.companies. We have two stand back a bit. There are no quick wins here,
:26:49. > :26:56.we have to wait. One of the things we might have do wait for is the
:26:56. > :27:01.point that you make, the low skill levels and levels of literacy in
:27:01. > :27:05.numerous the in young people. Another thing which could be a brake
:27:05. > :27:10.on the wheel is the fact that our political class is particularly at
:27:10. > :27:13.Street level seem determined to make a difficult situation seem almost
:27:13. > :27:20.impossible. We need to wake up or there will not be any copy to smell.
:27:20. > :27:26.What about the backdrop, the security situation, it is not go to.
:27:26. > :27:33.It is not like the darkest days of the trouble is that we have had two
:27:33. > :27:37.murders in as many days. They are called but it murders, we have had
:27:37. > :27:40.mayhem across Northern Ireland with bomb alerts. -- it was cold-blooded
:27:40. > :27:45.mayhem across Northern Ireland with murders. The people of Northern
:27:45. > :27:49.Ireland are shocked and horrified and saying very clearly, we don't
:27:49. > :27:57.want to go back to the dark days of the Troubles. Peace is here but it
:27:57. > :28:00.has to be nurtured, and political stability insures dissidents don't
:28:00. > :28:05.have the space and it will diminish from underneath them. The
:28:05. > :28:09.conversation we had from our politicians does not give us
:28:09. > :28:13.optimism. They had to own their words. People have rights but I
:28:13. > :28:16.think we should have two talk about responsibilities. You may have
:28:16. > :28:21.rights but you don't have to use them. What about the backdrop, how
:28:21. > :28:29.concerned are you that it would put people off? It could, but these
:28:29. > :28:35.deaths, these executions as you said, they were horrendous. The
:28:35. > :28:40.strength of the reaction has demonstrated how unusual this is.
:28:40. > :28:44.Actually I don't think we should necessarily go to the conclusion
:28:45. > :28:50.that it is dissident republicans. This could be criminality, with
:28:50. > :28:58.drugs involved and goodness knows what. I do not think, it is an awful
:28:58. > :29:06.two episode in 24-hour 's. But I'm not certain that will deter people.
:29:06. > :29:10.I think it is more the political impasse at the top, that is
:29:10. > :29:25.difficult to overcome. Let's have a look at some sweets.
:29:25. > :29:32.That is a very laudable, you might say. Another great success, you are
:29:32. > :29:38.a keen follower of Twitter. That is not trending. It is not trending
:29:38. > :29:46.locally. It only had eight re-tweets. That is an example of
:29:46. > :29:53.social media saying thank you but no thank you. From the bottom up it
:29:53. > :29:57.works but if you try from the top down, people reject it. This is from
:29:57. > :30:12.Belfast, a left-wing candidate. That is excellent news, a man who is
:30:12. > :30:17.anti-sectarian, it strikes the right note. Here's a fine playwright and
:30:18. > :30:20.much applauded and amended by many. Thank you very much indeed. That is
:30:20. > :30:25.much applauded and amended by many. almost it from tonight, but first
:30:25. > :30:34.the thought of our man with the inside track.
:30:34. > :30:40.Storm onto security here, on high alert today. We had orders to make
:30:40. > :30:46.sure certain dangerous individuals could not make it near the assembly.
:30:46. > :30:51.Not Ken Maginnis! Dave Trimble and Shane Mellon. The lads on the Hill
:30:51. > :30:56.Not Ken Maginnis! Dave Trimble and were raging so they immediately
:30:56. > :31:01.descended and decided to set up a review group to report back to a
:31:01. > :31:05.decision-making subcommittee. We have got investors coming over today
:31:05. > :31:07.so everyone has to smile and pretend everything is hunky-dory and
:31:08. > :31:12.Northern Ireland is a great place to invest in. So nobody mention how
:31:12. > :31:18.much deleting the marches costs, or the 80 million of maize money we
:31:18. > :31:24.threw away, or how we had 19.5 million in Clyde finds. -- unpaid
:31:24. > :31:35.fines. You can't park there! Over 20 quid, we'll say no more about it.
:31:35. > :31:37.That is it from The View this week, I meet on Sunday Politics on Sunday.