:00:31. > :00:36.people will see when we announce our proposal is what is going to happen
:00:36. > :00:43.and I am confident the Unionist committee -- community will be happy
:00:43. > :00:47.with the proposals. It was right to reject the stadium so how much more
:00:47. > :00:54.right is it to reject something which is directly related to our
:00:54. > :00:57.history. Unionism divided. As protestors call for a halt to plans
:00:57. > :00:58.for a conflict resolution centre at the Maze, we'll hear from senior
:00:58. > :01:01.unionists with opposing views on the project.
:01:01. > :01:04.Stupidity and corruption killed the Keltic Tiger but can hard times
:01:04. > :01:07.rebuild Ireland north and south? The author Fintan O'Toole is live in the
:01:07. > :01:10.studio. And with their views on G8 and the
:01:10. > :01:14.Obama roadshow, I'm joined tonight by the commentators Alex Kane and
:01:14. > :01:22.Dearbhail McDonald. And you can, of course, follow the
:01:22. > :01:25.programme on Twitter. That's @BBCtheview.
:01:25. > :01:29.Opponents of a planned conflict resolution centre at the Maze Prison
:01:29. > :01:32.site have been meeting in Lisburn tonight. Critics include the Ulster
:01:32. > :01:37.Unionists, UKIP, the TUV and the Orange Order, which came out against
:01:37. > :01:40.the proposals last week. Now, The View has learned that days before
:01:40. > :01:46.the Order rejected the plan, senior Orangemen met the First Minister for
:01:46. > :01:49.discussions at the site. It was a chance for the DUP to persuade
:01:49. > :01:52.leading figures in the Order, but it appears to have failed. Our
:01:52. > :01:54.political reporter, Stephen Walker, has been examining where that now
:01:54. > :02:04.leaves the Maze/Long Kesh project and its potential impact within
:02:04. > :02:13.
:02:13. > :02:19.unionism. It is the biggest building project
:02:19. > :02:24.in Northern Ireland and could create 5000 jobs but that is not what is
:02:24. > :02:28.attracting all the political heat. Critics see a planned peace Centre
:02:28. > :02:35.and a preservation of an huge block and a hospital would end up becoming
:02:35. > :02:38.a shrine to paramilitaries. Last week, the Orange Order rejected the
:02:38. > :02:44.development plans describing them as flawed and fundamentally
:02:44. > :02:51.ill-conceived. We understand that earlier this month before the Orange
:02:51. > :02:54.Order made an official announcement, Orangemen came here to the maze and
:02:54. > :02:59.were met by Jeffrey Donaldson and Peter Robinson. They were given a
:02:59. > :03:03.tour of the site. Even if the senior Orangemen were impressed by what
:03:03. > :03:10.they saw it is clear others in the grand Lodge of Ireland took a
:03:10. > :03:13.different approach. Those who went along from more -- our organisation
:03:13. > :03:19.were not persuaded about the merits of this particular project if people
:03:19. > :03:27.are genuine about a peace building and conflict resolution centre then
:03:27. > :03:35.surely the last thing you want to do is to build such a place at a place
:03:35. > :03:40.with it's going to cause sorrow and bitterness. Peter Robinson says the
:03:40. > :03:45.Orange Order did not criticise the project when it was first outlined
:03:45. > :03:53.in 2005. He insists the plans are acceptable. There will be no shrine
:03:53. > :03:58.at the Maze and people will see when we announced our proposals what will
:03:58. > :04:02.happen. I am confident the Unionist community will be constant --
:04:02. > :04:07.confident with the proposals. The DUP now find themselves at odds with
:04:07. > :04:12.other members of the Unionist family. The DUP leader is being
:04:12. > :04:17.swung round at the table by Sinn Fein on this. They have insisted
:04:17. > :04:25.that nothing goes to the Maze and less the conflict resolution centre
:04:25. > :04:30.goes there. It is the same DUP leader who won the proposition of a
:04:30. > :04:34.much less offensive proposition, that the stadium, was rejected
:04:34. > :04:38.because of its siting on the Maze and because the prison buildings
:04:38. > :04:44.within and because they could become a shrine, if it was right to reject
:04:44. > :04:49.a stadium at the Maze, how much more right is it to reject something
:04:49. > :04:55.which is directly related to our sad history? So what does this division
:04:55. > :05:03.in the Unionist community mean for the DUP? It must feel odd for the
:05:03. > :05:08.DUP not to be on the more orange side of every argument. They will
:05:08. > :05:18.have to calculate whether this will attract more voters. Of course they
:05:18. > :05:28.
:05:28. > :05:36.have criticised the other Unionist parties. It has the makings of quite
:05:36. > :05:46.a row. A number of victims groups feel the DUP are wrong. This lady
:05:46. > :05:49.
:05:50. > :05:55.represents RUC widows. It would be glorifying people who took men's
:05:55. > :06:02.lives and that is where the problem lies. It is hard to get middle
:06:02. > :06:12.ground on that. And what would you say to Peter Robinson wants to go
:06:12. > :06:13.
:06:13. > :06:18.ahead with this? Think again. I think he needs to think again. And
:06:18. > :06:22.listen to some of the grassroots opinion. Both Martin McGuinness and
:06:22. > :06:27.Peter Robinson insist they have listened and believe some critics
:06:27. > :06:37.are scaremongering. Academic Pete Shirlow was involved in discussions
:06:37. > :06:39.
:06:39. > :06:49.about how the Maze site could be used. From what I know, it is simply
:06:49. > :06:50.
:06:50. > :06:55.going to be a building. It is actually a place where you can save
:06:55. > :07:03.the security force history and a Unionist history. It is a perfect
:07:03. > :07:06.site on which to do that. In peace time, this site splits opinion.
:07:06. > :07:11.Unionists are divided. Peter Robinson hopes that when the
:07:11. > :07:16.detailed plans are made public at the critics will be satisfied. But
:07:16. > :07:19.until then, many opponents shown no sign of staying quiet.
:07:19. > :07:23.Stephen Walker reporting. The Ulster Unionist leader Mike Nesbitt was at
:07:23. > :07:31.tonight's protest and he joins me in the studio, along with the DUP MP
:07:31. > :07:35.Jeffrey Donaldson. Jeffrey Donaldson, it must be very hard for
:07:35. > :07:38.you to sit here and listen to an RUC widows saying your party leader
:07:38. > :07:44.needs to listen to grassroots opinion on the matter and think
:07:44. > :07:53.again. What do you say in reply? are listening. We are meeting with
:07:53. > :07:59.people. We are hearing their concerns. On the board of the Maze
:07:59. > :08:05.Corporation which will oversee this development, there are a number of
:08:05. > :08:12.former RUC officers. Does anyone seriously believe for one moment
:08:13. > :08:18.that those men on blackboard, former RUC officers, are going to create a
:08:18. > :08:21.shrine on the Maze site that would in any way diminish the memory of
:08:22. > :08:28.their dead comrades? That simply is not going to happen. It will not be
:08:28. > :08:35.allowed to happen. You say you are listening but does that mean you
:08:35. > :08:39.will be altering the plans as they currently stand? Nothing is fixed.
:08:39. > :08:44.We are listening very carefully to what people are saying. As Peter has
:08:45. > :08:52.made clear when the final proposals emerge I am satisfied that people
:08:52. > :08:56.will have their concerns eased. will persuade Danna Cochrane and
:08:56. > :09:00.others that you have got it right when she and they think you got it
:09:01. > :09:05.wrong? It will not be a shrine to terrorism. I can guarantee you they
:09:05. > :09:13.will be nothing in the new peace Centre that will glorify terrorism.
:09:13. > :09:17.I put on the uniform to fight the IRA. I had members of my family
:09:17. > :09:24.murdered by the IRA. I am not going to stand over anything that would
:09:24. > :09:29.glorify the actions of the IRA in any sense whatsoever. What is the
:09:29. > :09:34.problem with that Mike Nesbitt? boards of directors and politicians
:09:35. > :09:42.do not decide what will and what will not be a shrine. People decide.
:09:42. > :09:47.You see lamp posts, Gates and other artefacts which have flowers tied to
:09:48. > :09:57.them to commemorate with somebody lost their lives in a road traffic
:09:57. > :10:02.collision. People decide what will be a shrine. But you stand accused
:10:02. > :10:11.of political scaremongering tonight. The information has not been made
:10:11. > :10:21.public yet. These people can make their own minds up and they have.
:10:21. > :10:23.
:10:23. > :10:29.They don't want the retained prison buildings kept. Why did your party
:10:29. > :10:33.support the listings of those buildings? With all due respect, I
:10:33. > :10:38.still have opposed the listing of those buildings but your party let
:10:38. > :10:45.the prisoners out of the Maze and that was the greatest insult to the
:10:45. > :10:53.victims. Your party supported the retention of those buildings. You
:10:53. > :10:58.and your party have not been consistent in this at all. I thought
:10:58. > :11:06.tonight we might be able to have a debate with some degree of a lack --
:11:06. > :11:10.intellectual rigour but what we get is the guy with no talent on the
:11:10. > :11:20.football team goes and kicks everyone else. I have been on the
:11:20. > :11:27.
:11:27. > :11:31.pitch a lot longer than you. I want you to answer the question, how do
:11:31. > :11:37.you respond to the fact that you appeared within your party to be
:11:37. > :11:45.enthusiastic about this and your former chairman David Campbell and
:11:45. > :11:52.now you appear not to be so happy? David Campbell has made it clear, he
:11:52. > :11:59.chaired a committee to represent -- representative but not as a
:11:59. > :12:09.representative of the Ulster Unionists party. First of all there
:12:09. > :12:13.
:12:13. > :12:20.was no representation they David Campbell as an Ulster Unionists. He
:12:20. > :12:22.was employed as a special adviser. He is very clear that this was the
:12:23. > :12:26.first time the four parties of government got together to discuss
:12:26. > :12:36.an issue like this and it was agreed at the beginning they would be no
:12:36. > :12:38.
:12:38. > :12:42.sensitivity. It was... So your party has been very consistent. What you
:12:42. > :12:52.had agreed by David Campbell's chairmanship was a comp resides
:12:52. > :12:53.
:12:53. > :13:01.permission. -- compromised position. You are quoted in the Guardian in
:13:01. > :13:04.two 2004 saying the victims of the terrorists will not visit the site.
:13:04. > :13:11.You remain supportive of delisting the buildings and so they can be
:13:11. > :13:21.removed but the fact is, your scheme has them as a central part of the
:13:21. > :13:22.
:13:22. > :13:28.development. Let's not misrepresent the position. In 2004 I wrote this
:13:28. > :13:38.letter opposing the listing of the building. But they are listed.And I
:13:38. > :13:44.continue to oppose that. I continue to oppose that. The difference is
:13:44. > :13:54.this. And though the UUP control the proposal was to put the peace centre
:13:54. > :14:03.
:14:03. > :14:07.into the prison buildings, into the prison hospital. We have to move
:14:07. > :14:15.forward. The reality now is that we have this plan which we understand
:14:15. > :14:19.is about to be published. You were at this meeting in Lisburn tonight.
:14:19. > :14:26.Tell us what people were saying they're about the proposals and why
:14:26. > :14:30.they are opposed to them despite the fact the DUP supports them? There
:14:30. > :14:34.are two issues. Everybody at that meeting would like to see the end of
:14:34. > :14:44.the prison buildings. In terms of the new building, some people don't
:14:44. > :15:00.
:15:00. > :15:07.want it at all. I don't share that view. It is the most divisive piece
:15:07. > :15:17.of land in Northern Ireland. We need to have a debate on whether we need
:15:17. > :15:21.
:15:21. > :15:24.the centre and only then should we decide on the venue. Are you at the
:15:24. > :15:29.point where you may consider relocating the conflict centre to
:15:29. > :15:33.another place? Well, first of all, the centre isn't going to be in the
:15:33. > :15:40.maintained buildings. It is on the site but so is the Royal
:15:40. > :15:43.agricultural Society. You're not comparing like with like. We face
:15:43. > :15:48.two choices here. We can either develop this site, including the
:15:48. > :15:54.peace centre, and move it forward and create the opportunity of
:15:54. > :15:57.thousands of jobs and millions of pounds of investment... I'm sorry,
:15:57. > :16:03.Mike. You have just declared this the most controversial site in
:16:03. > :16:11.Northern Ireland. For a peace centre. Well, your party supported
:16:11. > :16:18.the peace centre. We've moved on from that. Mike is trying to deny
:16:18. > :16:21.it. My party has never supported that concept. We have made clear...
:16:21. > :16:25.The peace centre should not be in the retained building and that will
:16:25. > :16:29.be the case. But Mike Nesbitt's point and the point others have made
:16:29. > :16:37.in the coalition who oppose the present plan is that it be moved
:16:37. > :16:45.somewhere else entirely - off the place-macro site entirely. -- the
:16:45. > :16:50.The Maze site entirely. That is to suggest that my area is a no go
:16:50. > :16:58.area. As far as I'm concerned, my area is an area where they should
:16:58. > :17:00.be. The maze site is an area where I want people to invest. I'm delighted
:17:00. > :17:09.that the largest ever turnout of people at the Balmoral show was this
:17:09. > :17:19.year. That proves people do not regard place-macro as untouchable.
:17:19. > :17:23.
:17:23. > :17:28.-- The Maze. We have taken the peace centre out of the retained building.
:17:28. > :17:38.Mike should answer this question. Why did he not object to the
:17:38. > :17:39.
:17:39. > :17:44.planning application for the peace centre The Maze site our only
:17:44. > :17:50.objection is to placing that building there. Jeffrey has to
:17:50. > :17:56.answer a question. When I look at the D U P now I said to myself...
:17:56. > :17:59.very quick. The innocent victims don't want it there, the George
:17:59. > :18:09.Cross don't want it there, the Orange Order don't want it there.
:18:09. > :18:10.
:18:10. > :18:14.For whose benefit are the D U P campaigning to have in their?
:18:14. > :18:20.is a coalition opposed to having it on that site. What are you going to
:18:20. > :18:25.do about that? I'm an Orangeman, Mike isn't. My family have suffered
:18:25. > :18:29.during the troubles. I wore the uniform of the Crown in the Ulster
:18:29. > :18:35.defence Regiment. To say that all of these people oppose the peace centre
:18:35. > :18:40.is wrong. I meet many victims and many who served in the security
:18:40. > :18:44.forces, some of them in the Orange Hall tonight. I meet people in my
:18:44. > :18:48.constituency and beyond who support the peace centre and want to see
:18:48. > :18:55.Northern Ireland moving on. When will we see final details
:18:55. > :18:59.published? Within weeks and when it does I believe people will see very,
:18:59. > :19:09.very clearly indeed that the scaremongering of Mike Nesbitt and
:19:09. > :19:09.
:19:09. > :19:11.others has been false. I'm sorry, we're out of time, folks. We're
:19:11. > :19:15.continuing to consult people across Northern Ireland and will do so
:19:15. > :19:18.until the final decisions are made. We look forward to seeing the
:19:18. > :19:24.publication of the plans within weeks as Jeffrey Donaldson has
:19:24. > :19:28.assured us and we will reconvene and discussed again. Thank you both.
:19:28. > :19:31.Banking and its role in the current financial crisis is dominating the
:19:31. > :19:36.headlines again as the Chancellor raised the possibility of Ulster
:19:36. > :19:41.Bank's assets in sold off from RBS. But has the culture which some say
:19:41. > :19:44.precipitated the crash changed? I'll be putting a question to a man who
:19:44. > :19:48.chronicled the Republic's economic crash but here's our political
:19:48. > :19:52.editor Jim Fitzpatrick. We live in a capitalist world ruled
:19:52. > :19:57.by the basic principles that we all understand - risk and reward. You
:19:58. > :20:05.take a risk and you get a reward - with profits if you're successful.
:20:05. > :20:09.The level of the rewards depends on the level of the risk that you take.
:20:09. > :20:13.But if you get things wrong, you shoulder the burden of that risk and
:20:13. > :20:17.take the losses. However, the great financial crisis of the last decade
:20:17. > :20:24.has turned that principle on its head - and nowhere more so than in
:20:24. > :20:26.Ireland. Here, the banks took enormous risk in pursuit of enormous
:20:26. > :20:32.rewards. They borrowed billions internationally and flooded this
:20:32. > :20:37.small economy, north and south, with cheap money. But when their lenders
:20:37. > :20:41.got worried and stopped funding them, the banks went bust. Under the
:20:41. > :20:47.normal rules of capitalism, that's where the story should end. The
:20:48. > :20:51.banks go bust, their lenders lose the money, small depositors are
:20:51. > :20:56.protected and new banks move in to fill the gap. But governments took a
:20:56. > :20:58.different view and judge the banks too big to fail, too vital to the
:20:58. > :21:05.economy, so they bailed them out with billions borrowed from
:21:05. > :21:12.taxpayers. Those extra billions for the tanks forced governments to make
:21:12. > :21:14.massive cut in public spending - austerity - particularly in the
:21:14. > :21:18.Republic, where the government itself went bust bailing out the
:21:18. > :21:24.bankrupt banks. And of course it turned out that the banks had never
:21:24. > :21:29.risked any of their own money, just hours. That's not capitalism. What
:21:29. > :21:32.is it? It's one of the biggest questions of our time.
:21:32. > :21:41.So who bears responsibility for what went wrong? I'm joined by the
:21:41. > :21:46.assistant editor of the Irish Independent, Fintan O'Toole. Who do
:21:46. > :21:52.you think bears responsibility? The politicians, bankers or the public?
:21:52. > :21:56.It was a triangle of doom. You have the bankers who bear primary
:21:56. > :22:01.responsibility because the boards of the banks were utterly reckless,
:22:01. > :22:08.utterly stupid and had no sense of social responsibility. In both of
:22:08. > :22:17.these islands - this is not simply a Republic problem - regulation which
:22:17. > :22:22.was ideological driven, as part of neoliberalism, and I suppose you
:22:22. > :22:27.could say that the public in terms of the democratic systems failed to
:22:27. > :22:33.get any continuity. We haven't had an enquiry in the Republic into what
:22:33. > :22:39.happened. We hear about good bank-bad bank. Some people like that
:22:39. > :22:42.but others think it's unhelpful. Ulster Bank may now be cut adrift
:22:42. > :22:50.from the RBS. Is that worth considering or will that spell
:22:50. > :22:54.further disaster? I think it's worth considering only if it accompanied
:22:54. > :22:59.by a very clear plan as to how Ulster Bank is going to play the
:22:59. > :23:06.role the banks are supposed to play in society, if it has genuine
:23:06. > :23:10.sources of capital for businesses, for individuals. One of the big
:23:10. > :23:13.problems with the way the bank rescue has been put forward, and
:23:13. > :23:18.there has been no consideration about which of the banks we actually
:23:18. > :23:22.need and which are parasitic and toxic. Because these activities
:23:22. > :23:26.became so mixed up, we haven't had any kind of systematic examination
:23:26. > :23:31.of what we think the social role of banks should be. The reality still
:23:31. > :23:35.is that banks were too big to fail and too big to exist. If they can't
:23:35. > :23:41.fail, they shouldn't exist and therefore the banking system really
:23:41. > :23:46.needs to be broken up into much more manageable bits. We had the news
:23:46. > :23:51.yesterday that NAMA pumped �15 million into two unfinished office
:23:51. > :23:55.development in Belfast. That was to get them finished so they could be
:23:55. > :24:00.let and that would create jobs and generate some sort of income for
:24:00. > :24:05.those who own them. Is that what we need to see more of? We need to see
:24:05. > :24:08.NAMA playing a very active role. It is the largest single property
:24:08. > :24:16.portfolio in the world, which is astonishing. It's on the grotesque
:24:16. > :24:19.scale. On the island of Ireland, a very small place, that has enormous
:24:19. > :24:24.economic consequences for everybody. It's owned by a rather
:24:24. > :24:30.opaque organisation. NAMA was said of the most extraordinary
:24:30. > :24:33.circumstances. Its entire existence was shrouded in a lot of mystery and
:24:33. > :24:38.we really still don't quite understand what kinds of processes
:24:38. > :24:45.go on in NAMA. There's not enough transparency in terms of the way
:24:45. > :24:50.this organisation operates. Do you think that what has happened has led
:24:50. > :24:52.to fundamental changes in people 's attitudes in the Republic? Less of a
:24:52. > :24:58.self-centred, profiteering consumerist worldview that some
:24:58. > :25:05.people say is what existed eight or nine years ago? Has it gone
:25:05. > :25:08.temporarily or has it gone permanently? I think it's gone in
:25:08. > :25:15.the general public to a large extent. I don't think it's gone with
:25:15. > :25:17.the institutions. We know from history that culture is only really
:25:17. > :25:24.change when people pay a price for the terrible things they do. It's
:25:24. > :25:30.not just an Irish problem. Bankers have not paid much of a price. The
:25:30. > :25:33.institutions have been restored. The southern government has put 100
:25:33. > :25:36.billion euros into the banking system and the banks are still not
:25:36. > :25:40.lending. They're still not behaving in any kind of fundamentally
:25:40. > :25:45.different way. If you look at the city of London, the same bonus
:25:45. > :25:51.system is back. We've seen spectacular collapses as far as
:25:51. > :25:55.business empires are concerned. Will we see more of that? Yes, there's a
:25:55. > :25:59.lot more of this to go and there's still a lot of toxic stuff to get
:25:59. > :26:02.out of the banking system. We haven't even begun to deal with the
:26:02. > :26:09.mortgage question yet so I'm afraid this banking crisis has quite a long
:26:09. > :26:16.way to go. Thank you for coming to join us. Plenty to talk what our
:26:16. > :26:21.commentators about. New to the view is Derbhail McDonald from the Irish
:26:21. > :26:27.Independent and our stall what Alex Kane, who is with me now and just
:26:27. > :26:34.alter the carpet to make sure I would trip up! -- style wart. Let's
:26:34. > :26:40.talk about Maze and the failure to agree on the part of those two
:26:40. > :26:43.members of the families. These two guys sit on the same Unionist
:26:43. > :26:53.forum, a body created to bring them all together in one big happy
:26:53. > :27:01.family. Tonight in Lisbon, Jim Allister was rubbishing the UUP. If
:27:01. > :27:04.the DQ PR rubbishing the UUP and they talk about... It was car crash.
:27:04. > :27:10.You're from the north you live and work in Dublin. What did you make of
:27:10. > :27:15.it? I'm from the north and the Catholic tradition and this is very
:27:15. > :27:19.much a dispute within unionism. I agree that Maze is one of the most
:27:19. > :27:24.divisive sites but within that, there is great capacity to transform
:27:24. > :27:28.it. We can't airbrush it out of history. I don't think demolition of
:27:28. > :27:34.that site would serve either side of the divide well and being mindful of
:27:34. > :27:41.the sensitivities... Jim Allister talked about the sensitivity and the
:27:41. > :27:46.sad history that we have. We need to process that history and do it in a
:27:46. > :27:50.way that doesn't glorify terrorism, doesn't become... I'm from the
:27:50. > :27:56.Catholic edition but I think there is huge capacity to transform
:27:56. > :28:00.history. In one sense, the maize is a monument of terror but I think it
:28:00. > :28:06.would be a good place to go back and remind everyone that this is why we
:28:06. > :28:14.shouldn't go back again. -- the Maze. Your moment of the week?
:28:14. > :28:18.Obama speech, which I think was astonishing. I prefer to hear a
:28:18. > :28:23.speech rather than just see it. Let's have a reminder of what he had
:28:23. > :28:31.to say. You must remind us of the existence of peace, the possibility
:28:31. > :28:41.of peace. You have to remind us of hope again and again and again.
:28:41. > :28:41.
:28:42. > :28:45.thing about the Obama speech is that I it was particularly well do that
:28:45. > :28:49.but -- delivered but it was brilliantly written. It goes back to
:28:49. > :28:54.how we rewrite our history and understand our history. He was
:28:54. > :28:57.talking about himself in Chicago, a segregated city when he grew up. He
:28:57. > :29:02.said talking about who you wanted your children to play with and what
:29:02. > :29:06.schools, it would be our decision. It was an attack on the
:29:06. > :29:11.politicians. He said it was over to us in the hall. I wonder how many
:29:11. > :29:16.will rise to the challenge. A lot of people felt it was better
:29:16. > :29:20.constructive than delivered. staying with the Obama 's. I thought
:29:20. > :29:27.it was a good speech from Barack Obama but I thought that Michelle
:29:27. > :29:31.kicked his but in terms of speeches. I was at the Riverdance on Monday
:29:31. > :29:37.and it was superb. But it was very much about Michelle Obama coming
:29:37. > :29:41.into her own and despite the American media saying they thought
:29:41. > :29:47.her daughters didn't enjoy it, they had a ball. I think they had a good
:29:47. > :29:51.time. They looked a little bit bored. I saw them enjoying it. I
:29:51. > :29:56.think they had midges flying around their head. It must be tough being
:29:57. > :30:03.the first kids! They just didn't look too happy. They're teenage
:30:03. > :30:06.girls. They're board. They were dragged halfway around the world to
:30:06. > :30:11.watch their parents give a speech and the next was Germany. It would
:30:11. > :30:17.be terrible! They saw little is for the first time. I'm sure it was a
:30:17. > :30:26.highlight. -- they saw nettles. My Tweet of the week was just after the
:30:26. > :30:30.Lough Erne declaration. " is that it? Companies should pay tax and
:30:30. > :30:40.nobody should pay ransom strip pirates. Have we been transported to
:30:40. > :30:42.
:30:42. > :30:52.1700 and back request my Tweet was a photograph. It was the cutest and
:30:52. > :30:57.
:30:57. > :31:04.G8s. I'm looking ahead, but not looking forward, to the abortion
:31:04. > :31:10.legislation which kicked off today. We're convulsing ourselves in the
:31:10. > :31:16.Republic over that legislation but it ties in with what is happening or
:31:17. > :31:20.not here. It will be John McAllister and his opposition bill next week.
:31:20. > :31:23.It is vital they get this through because then they can prove they are
:31:23. > :31:30.worth something. If not, it's going to be difficult for them at the next