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:00:00. > :00:24.Confusion over a contentious parade in Portadown.

:00:25. > :00:33.Is the new Parades' Commission at risk

:00:34. > :00:35.of damaging its reputation at the start of the marching season?

:00:36. > :00:39.hear from one former Parades' Commissioner and Orangeman,

:00:40. > :00:41.the Reverend Brian Kennaway, the SDLP's Dolores Kelly

:00:42. > :00:45.Public displays of unity, but what's the real state

:00:46. > :00:50.of the relationship between the First and Deputy First Ministers?

:00:51. > :00:56.In the same way a chameleon changes its colour, reacting to its

:00:57. > :01:00.environment, if it is unnerved or under pressure, it changes the way

:01:01. > :01:06.it looks, and that is kind of what we see with them, and one day

:01:07. > :01:10.everything is fine, the next day, not so good.

:01:11. > :01:12.And in Commentators' Corner promising to get their teeth

:01:13. > :01:15.into the week's political issues are Paul McFadden and Alex Kane.

:01:16. > :01:17.And you can, of course, join the debate on Twitter.

:01:18. > :01:23.It's arguably one of the most difficult jobs in Northern Ireland -

:01:24. > :01:28.But has the Parades' Commission just made its job even more difficult

:01:29. > :01:31.by performing a U-turn on a recent ruling?

:01:32. > :01:34.Yesterday the Commission reversed a decision on

:01:35. > :01:37.a contentious march in Portadown by saying that it could not go into an

:01:38. > :01:39.area which unionists call Victoria Terrace, but which nationalists say

:01:40. > :01:46.The DUP has been calling for a further review by the Commission,

:01:47. > :01:54.Earlier today you claimed you'd got a review of this review.

:01:55. > :01:56.Tonight the Parades' Commission says no

:01:57. > :02:10.No, there were delegation today, and all of us left

:02:11. > :02:14.the meeting under the impression that we had got a review and

:02:15. > :02:15.Parades' Commission told that we had got a review and

:02:16. > :02:19.would give us the review that we had got a review and

:02:20. > :02:29.evidence provided. It just shows how shambolic the Parades' Commission

:02:30. > :02:34.is. You obviously misunderstood. If I did, then we all did. Maybe you

:02:35. > :02:38.all wanted to misunderstand. I don't think so. What we have to do is put

:02:39. > :02:45.this into perspective. This is a parade, a short parade of 45 minutes

:02:46. > :02:49.to dedicate to someone who died of cancer some months ago. That is all

:02:50. > :02:54.it is. Let's not make a mountain out of a mole Hill. We have heard

:02:55. > :02:59.rumours and rhetoric that it is going to be another annual parade.

:03:00. > :03:04.It is not. It is in writing into the commission that this is a one-off

:03:05. > :03:09.parade. But it is a new parade, that is the point. It might be, but it is

:03:10. > :03:14.a one-off. Yes, but it is a new parade. But it is a one-off. They

:03:15. > :03:17.have been putting up the arch for many years now, but now they

:03:18. > :03:21.have been putting up the arch for dedicating it. That is the only

:03:22. > :03:24.difference. But it is a new parade in a contentious area. I would

:03:25. > :03:26.difference. But it is a new parade to get confirmation of what is

:03:27. > :03:32.contentious. It to get confirmation of what is

:03:33. > :03:35.Garvaghy Road. Secondly, we are told that the residents oppose it. My

:03:36. > :03:40.colleague today went to every single door and spoke to every single

:03:41. > :03:45.resident in all 22 houses. None of them, none of them had any

:03:46. > :03:52.objections to the parade or to the service in any shape or form. How

:03:53. > :03:55.can you be sure? Let me finish. In fact, some of those residents gave

:03:56. > :03:59.can you be sure? Let me finish. In were more than happy about the

:04:00. > :04:03.parade. How can you be sure that when somebody knocks on a door, and

:04:04. > :04:09.if you have an objection to the bread, they say, no I don't, because

:04:10. > :04:12.they have the desire to require life -- to the parade. You know that is

:04:13. > :04:16.they have the desire to require life not how it is done. They asked if

:04:17. > :04:19.they had any concerns, the ethnic community, and this has been raised

:04:20. > :04:27.again and they were consulted and they had no issue. From Mr

:04:28. > :04:33.McKenna's point of view, and maybe Dolores Kelly, they are making a

:04:34. > :04:36.mountain out of a molehill. This is the challenge, that you and the

:04:37. > :04:39.Garvaghy Road Residents' Coalition are making a mountain out of a mole

:04:40. > :04:44.hill. What is the problem with this taking place? It is interesting that

:04:45. > :04:52.David and his colleagues said they spoke to people in a few houses, and

:04:53. > :04:55.they didn't go to the other side of the Garvaghy Road and ask what they

:04:56. > :04:58.thought about it. It is a new parade. Let's be clear, the

:04:59. > :05:02.Portadown district comes up with a new idea, a new scam, if you like,

:05:03. > :05:08.practically, two of the anti-in advance of the annual Drumcree

:05:09. > :05:11.parade. Last year it was a hymn service in Portadown People's Park.

:05:12. > :05:19.This year it is about the dedication of an arch. During the years of the

:05:20. > :05:24.Drumcree parade, barriers went up at the bridge, so it's an entirely new

:05:25. > :05:28.parade, entirely within a stretch of the Garvaghy Road and people are

:05:29. > :05:34.very concerned. Concerned about what? A number of things. It is a

:05:35. > :05:38.new parade going up the Garvaghy Road, and in recent years the junior

:05:39. > :05:43.Orange has gone off peacefully and there has been a growing tolerance.

:05:44. > :05:49.It is not going up the Garvaghy Road, it is going up part of what

:05:50. > :05:53.you might call a wider Garvaghy Road area. It is actually called Victoria

:05:54. > :06:00.Terrace. It doesn't say Garvaghy Road on the signpost. There is a

:06:01. > :06:05.change across the North. Do you accept it's not called the Garvaghy

:06:06. > :06:10.Road? It is indistinguishable baroque -- it is interesting above.

:06:11. > :06:14.It is called Victoria Terrace. It faces the Garvaghy Road and people

:06:15. > :06:17.are very anxious about it. One thing the Parades' Commission did not have

:06:18. > :06:21.on the website was the fact there would be a religious service on the

:06:22. > :06:24.Garvaghy Road and it's not a case of just two bands, the application says

:06:25. > :06:32.there are 200 participants expected to take part alongside the two bands

:06:33. > :06:40.on that stretch. Just put it right, 100 men and band. That is not what

:06:41. > :06:45.the application says. Dolores Kelly, where is the tolerance that the SDLP

:06:46. > :06:48.talks about, for a community that regards itself as beleaguered and

:06:49. > :06:52.under threat? We have had the queen here, the talk about reaching out my

:06:53. > :06:59.hand, going the extra mile, live and let live, where is the SDLP on that?

:07:00. > :07:02.The people of Portadown have seen the triumphalism displayed by the

:07:03. > :07:04.Unionist parties and the Orange order over many years, never mind

:07:05. > :07:12.the violence associated with Drumcree. The outward parade to the

:07:13. > :07:15.Drumcree church is increasingly go through a Catholic nationalist area

:07:16. > :07:19.and there is no issue with that, and that is something that should be

:07:20. > :07:21.allowed to continue. There is a growing tolerance for the junior

:07:22. > :07:25.Orange and that is something we would continue to welcome. But the

:07:26. > :07:31.Portadown district has failed to have any discussion with the

:07:32. > :07:35.residents today. I want to bring in Reverend Brian Kennaway, a former

:07:36. > :07:38.Orangeman, and not involved in this determination, and you do have a

:07:39. > :07:42.privileged position in understanding this decision-making processes,

:07:43. > :07:46.given your past, so has the current Parades' Commission made a mess of

:07:47. > :07:52.this? I think the perception, and it's always the perception that

:07:53. > :07:58.carries the day, the perception is is that they are indecisive, and

:07:59. > :08:01.that is very bad. We used to get all the facts around the table, look at

:08:02. > :08:05.every aspect, came to a decision and we stuck with a decision unless

:08:06. > :08:09.there was some exceptional, new information. I'd be interested to

:08:10. > :08:12.know what the new information is. People keep talking about new

:08:13. > :08:14.information. But all that information should have been on the

:08:15. > :08:19.table before the original decision was made. So, in your view, and I

:08:20. > :08:22.don't want to put words in your mouth, but would you have been

:08:23. > :08:25.happier if the Parades' Commission had stuck to its original

:08:26. > :08:32.determination and not gone back on it? Whatever the original

:08:33. > :08:36.determination was, yes. It's not you specifically agree with it, it's the

:08:37. > :08:39.principle? It's not uncommon for reviews to be held by any Parades'

:08:40. > :08:43.Commission and the decision overturned. You must have been

:08:44. > :08:52.involved in reviewing decisions and changing them. No huge changes. We

:08:53. > :08:57.have tweaked it. Right, what about the way that this has been handled

:08:58. > :08:59.in terms of PR? We can't get anybody from the Parades' Commission to talk

:09:00. > :09:03.to us and we don't know the detail of how the original decision was a

:09:04. > :09:08.Rybak, why it was changed, and were not clear about the situation

:09:09. > :09:11.tonight -- was arrived at. David Simpson left the meeting with the

:09:12. > :09:14.understanding there would be a review and the Parades' Commission

:09:15. > :09:17.made it clear to neither that is not the case because no new evidence was

:09:18. > :09:22.brought forward. I'd like to know what the new evidences. We would all

:09:23. > :09:26.like to know. These are public issues because it affects every

:09:27. > :09:30.aspect of life when there is a dispute in a volatile situation, as

:09:31. > :09:33.we live in. The new evidence, whatever it was, should be out

:09:34. > :09:37.there, and we should say that we reviewed it in the light of this. Do

:09:38. > :09:40.you think the new chair of the Parades' Commission should be

:09:41. > :09:45.explaining on behalf of them how the determination was arrived at? It

:09:46. > :09:50.hasn't actually seen an single interview since the new Commissioner

:09:51. > :09:56.took over. It's not the way was when were there. We were keen to get the

:09:57. > :09:59.message out as soon as we could. Peter Osborne, who chaired the

:10:00. > :10:02.commission when you were involved, he was quick to explain the

:10:03. > :10:07.rationale behind the decisions. Is that a better way of operating? I

:10:08. > :10:12.think it is. But when determinations made people read from the back, and

:10:13. > :10:17.they only read the bold determination of the back of it, not

:10:18. > :10:19.the reasoning at the beginning. David Simpson, quickly, the

:10:20. > :10:24.commission says in a statement which is not terribly helpful and is quite

:10:25. > :10:28.complicated, but it said it had to turn down your request for the

:10:29. > :10:32.review because your presentation did not contain new information or

:10:33. > :10:34.representations. You know, that is nonsense. We gave new

:10:35. > :10:36.and we gave evidence on consultations

:10:37. > :10:49.and we gave evidence on want to raise with Dolores. -- I

:10:50. > :10:52.want to race. You that the Orangeman in Portadown had not engaged or

:10:53. > :10:57.talked to the Garvaghy Road residence. You will note, the ten

:10:58. > :11:03.years, almost 12 years, there has been an open invitation and no

:11:04. > :11:09.preconditions at all to meet with those Garvaghy Road residence and

:11:10. > :11:14.numerous chairmen will put former -- were put forward, so if you can't

:11:15. > :11:18.talk to people around the table, you cannot engage. I believe in a

:11:19. > :11:25.dialogue, but we cannot get it. That was not always the case. Indeed not.

:11:26. > :11:30.You did call Fricke, and now it is the case, why not call their bluff

:11:31. > :11:34.-- call for it. Let's be clear, over the years there have been talks

:11:35. > :11:39.around the table, proximity talks, forced marches and then no talks at

:11:40. > :11:43.all. Then the Portadown district want to have talks but only about

:11:44. > :11:49.getting down the road, not the wider impact of community relations. There

:11:50. > :11:51.is a view in the nationalist community in Portadown that the

:11:52. > :11:55.Drumcree dispute is settled, it is resolved. That is a very real view.

:11:56. > :12:02.And it is a view of many people within the Protestant community as

:12:03. > :12:06.well. A quick response, but then I want to widen this. The bottom line

:12:07. > :12:08.is, if you are for a shared space, we have the People's Park

:12:09. > :12:10.is, if you are for a shared space, ten metres away from the arch and ?6

:12:11. > :12:17.million will be ten metres away from the arch and ?6

:12:18. > :12:20.yachtsmen. They have been putting out -- creating an argument. They

:12:21. > :12:25.put out their football teams and there is no shared space. When I

:12:26. > :12:28.travelled here tonight I saw men putting a union Jacks on lamp post.

:12:29. > :12:49.Not much sign of shared space there. There is very little tolerance.

:12:50. > :12:51.Tolerance works both ways. Decommissioning wind to the

:12:52. > :13:06.Secretary of State to see that there should have been raised, you are not

:13:07. > :13:20.aware of that? Absolutely not. Some concerns about phthalates to the

:13:21. > :13:30.peace process. -- threats. Sources have told some of my colleagues that

:13:31. > :13:37.members of the DUP have indeed raised concerns about what would

:13:38. > :13:50.happen if certain parades on zero allowed to take place? I do not

:13:51. > :14:04.think Phillips is the right word. -- threats. Were issues like nurseries?

:14:05. > :14:17.I think this is what has happened again. We were told that if we did

:14:18. > :14:29.not permit a certain parade, the same people came in and the assembly

:14:30. > :14:41.does not,. -- did not collapse. Vessel was lobbying from Unionists?

:14:42. > :14:47.Do you know anything about that? I have never attended any of those

:14:48. > :15:00.meetings. Sinn Fein have used those threats. Not down the Garvaghy Road.

:15:01. > :15:08.Festively keeps repeating itself. When a new Secretary of State, zone,

:15:09. > :15:17.it is the scene. It would make sense, from a policy point of view,

:15:18. > :15:28.for the DVD, as these parades do not go on then there will be some unrest

:15:29. > :15:37.and violence. We here that was going to be trouble last Friday night but

:15:38. > :15:47.it did not materialise. He had concerns that circumstances may

:15:48. > :15:56.arise. So there is a concern? The First Minister... Go to Brazil? If

:15:57. > :16:01.certain worries that not happen, I am not talking about that, I am

:16:02. > :16:05.talking about ethos minister who has concerns about Northern Ireland.

:16:06. > :16:10.What is your advice to people who need be unhappy about the position

:16:11. > :16:19.as this particular determination is concerned? I do not think that'll

:16:20. > :16:30.happen. I think they are as dignity within the service. -- there is. I

:16:31. > :16:35.do not think we have any fear of that. We need to leave it there.

:16:36. > :16:51.Thank you. The Queen being shown around

:16:52. > :16:55.Crumlin Road Gaol by two of its former residents -

:16:56. > :16:58.who just happen to be the First Yet more history was made this week

:16:59. > :17:03.in Belfast - and it was all smiles from Peter Robinson and

:17:04. > :17:05.Martin McGuinness as they welcomed Later in the day

:17:06. > :17:08.the Queen delivered a speech which appeared to address those

:17:09. > :17:14.unresolved issues which continue to I know there are many challenges

:17:15. > :17:18.ahead and peacemaking is not always an easy task. But you have come this

:17:19. > :17:29.far by tunnelling the impossible into the possible. As you face the

:17:30. > :17:32.future, always remember that the thoughts and prions of millions are

:17:33. > :17:42.always with you. There's little doubt

:17:43. > :17:44.the Queen has become a highly symbolic figure in the

:17:45. > :17:47.peace process - from her visit to Dublin, to those many images of her

:17:48. > :17:50.shaking Martin McGuinness's hand. But is her involvement more

:17:51. > :17:52.than purely symbolic? Joining me from Dublin is

:17:53. > :17:54.the author and journalist Mary Kenny who has written extensively

:17:55. > :17:57.about the royals and, in particular, the Queen's relationship with

:17:58. > :18:03.the island of Ireland. Thank you for joining us. You have

:18:04. > :18:12.been a long time of the Queen in Northern Ireland, how much of a

:18:13. > :18:22.central role she nobly? -- does she play? The monarch will do what the

:18:23. > :18:28.Prime Minister directs. The has been a strong commitment at Downing

:18:29. > :18:42.Street to proceed with this process. I think the Queen has added her own

:18:43. > :18:47.commitment to this project. It came off very strongly when she visited

:18:48. > :18:58.the Republic of Ireland in 2011. Sinn Fein stood aloof from a visit.

:18:59. > :19:11.They may feel now that they made a mistake. It was a fairly warm visit.

:19:12. > :19:25.It healed old wounds. I think Martin McGuinness is a remarkable man. He

:19:26. > :19:31.has made his own journey and he has shown a dizzy spell it in the way

:19:32. > :19:47.that he has built bridges with people from the opposing side. --

:19:48. > :19:54.great spirit. It is a very achieving spectacle. She is doing the betting

:19:55. > :20:02.of our Prime Minister and her government as she said. But as it's

:20:03. > :20:16.a bit of personal business on her part as well? She specifically

:20:17. > :20:32.wanted to go to the Republic. I think you will remember that the

:20:33. > :20:38.minute. -- the first time they met. The Queen

:20:39. > :20:46.willing smile. -- very. She as a willing smile. -- very. She as a

:20:47. > :20:51.genuine Christian. She believes in building bridges and moving forward.

:20:52. > :21:05.She has had the experience, 60 years building bridges and moving forward.

:21:06. > :21:14.Commonwealth. -- working. She is lending a commitment to this. Almost

:21:15. > :21:22.Commonwealth. -- working. She is an eight core of her George V, he

:21:23. > :21:32.was a unionist. an eight core of her George V, he

:21:33. > :21:44.He said in his letters, over and over again, he wanted to be fair. He

:21:45. > :22:02.strove so much to be a reconciling figure. He was genuinely horrified.

:22:03. > :22:10.He is moving forward as one must do. I think this has been a wonderful

:22:11. > :22:22.week. I wonder what you think the Queen might make of Martin

:22:23. > :22:27.McGuinness shaking her hand. Some Unionists are still very unhappy at

:22:28. > :22:37.that process. They have concerns about the Britishness in Northern

:22:38. > :22:43.Ireland's society. Obviously we do not know what the Queen would say.

:22:44. > :22:51.But I think she would want to bring communities together. That is also

:22:52. > :23:04.concern about the referendum in Scotland. The Queen will be thinking

:23:05. > :23:17.that Scotland will hopefully not fracture the union. Diverse and

:23:18. > :23:28.different though they may be, cultural backgrounds, nevertheless,

:23:29. > :23:39.we have an awful lot in common. Thank you.

:23:40. > :23:41.Well, Peter Robinson and Martin McGuinness might have looked

:23:42. > :23:44.the picture of contentment as they greeted the Queen this week -

:23:45. > :23:47.but what is the real state of their political and personal relationship?

:23:48. > :23:49.Our Political Correspondent, Martina Purdy, has been getting

:23:50. > :23:52.the views of those who keep a close eye on the partnership.

:23:53. > :24:01.The every move that the meat is interpreted and perhaps

:24:02. > :24:05.misinterpreted. It is complicated because the public expects one thing

:24:06. > :24:18.from them and the party expects something different. Unlike of trust

:24:19. > :24:21.makes it difficult. -- A lack of. They are not masters of everything

:24:22. > :24:32.that they are trying to content with. But when they worked together,

:24:33. > :24:35.the more leverage they have. It was in June 2008 that Peter Robinson and

:24:36. > :24:39.Martin McGuinness began to share power. Good times and bad times in

:24:40. > :24:51.this political marriage of convenience. It is at events like

:24:52. > :24:59.this that Peter Robinson and Martin McGuinness are at their best. A

:25:00. > :25:11.partly short of unity. -- public show. You will be pleased to know

:25:12. > :25:22.that 12,783 jobs have been achieved to March 2014 against a target of

:25:23. > :25:33.90,000. The feelings are often on display. -- Their failings. They

:25:34. > :25:38.criticise the media for giving a negative impression but those say

:25:39. > :25:46.that" diffident signals at different times. They are clearly reactive to

:25:47. > :25:54.the temperature, the environment, the circumstances that they are

:25:55. > :26:02.operating. The same week that he can you even changes its colour. That is

:26:03. > :26:09.kind of what we see sometimes. One day, everything seems to be fine.

:26:10. > :26:14.The next day, not so good. That may be a consequence of some of the

:26:15. > :26:24.things that we do not see. The rest over the maize has been a common

:26:25. > :26:29.point, because Peter Robinson pulled the plug without telling Martin

:26:30. > :26:44.McGuinness fast. The trust is not the. -- there. Maybe now, we need to

:26:45. > :26:51.have a more proactive form of government. It has served its

:26:52. > :26:57.purpose. Peace and stability. Only last week, Peter Robinson told the

:26:58. > :26:59.BBC's political editor he was cancelling the trip to Brazil

:27:00. > :27:08.without telling Martin McGuinness fast. I think the whole concept of

:27:09. > :27:22.the joint office is a good one. People need to work Better Together.

:27:23. > :27:29.Now you see me, now you don't, that is the attitude. I can understand

:27:30. > :27:40.that. I was in a similar position, I suppose, to Martin McGuinness. That

:27:41. > :27:44.sort of thing. It is difficult. More difficult still is the very partly

:27:45. > :27:50.deploying over welfare reform. Peter Robinson told this programme that

:27:51. > :28:05.Martin McGuinness had agreed a deal ending field to deliver. It is not

:28:06. > :28:09.my belief, it is my knowledge. They are already facing ?100 million in

:28:10. > :28:12.fines from London over the field up to introduce welfare changes. Also

:28:13. > :28:22.disagreement on how to find this money. A summer scheme to help 50

:28:23. > :28:24.young people in rest at media is in north Belfast was cancelled this

:28:25. > :28:36.year because funding has not come through. The last contact we had was

:28:37. > :28:45.in me. -- May. Either it is the resource issue, but as the top

:28:46. > :28:51.through with various politicians, that is an indication that it may be

:28:52. > :29:00.connected to the welfare budget. We do not know at our level. The money

:29:01. > :29:03.is not getting released. The department said it has the love of

:29:04. > :29:07.half ?1 million so far to priority projects. With elections looming,

:29:08. > :29:12.half ?1 million so far to priority and talks beginning next week, and

:29:13. > :29:14.speculation about what the Peter Robinson as an isolated figure,

:29:15. > :29:18.relations could become even more Robinson as an isolated figure,

:29:19. > :29:29.trained, leading perhaps to more problems. What is your message? To

:29:30. > :29:33.all politicians, please sort out these roadblocks, because we need

:29:34. > :29:42.you to give leadership. We need you to help us move on.

:29:43. > :29:47.Let's hear what tonight's commentators make

:29:48. > :29:50.I'm joined by Alex Kane and Paul McFadden.

:29:51. > :29:55.Good evening. Let's talk Portadown Parade. Is the Parades'

:29:56. > :30:01.Commission boxing itself into a corner? It is. I find it

:30:02. > :30:04.extraordinary that a Parades' Commission with so much on its

:30:05. > :30:04.extraordinary that a Parades' shoulders, it's almost like a mute

:30:05. > :30:09.response. No one shoulders, it's almost like a mute

:30:10. > :30:15.anything. In fairness to them, they exist because the DUP and Sinn Fein

:30:16. > :30:16.and SDLP failed to reach an agreement on the alternative, and

:30:17. > :30:19.there's no point David agreement on the alternative, and

:30:20. > :30:22.Dolores Kelly saying that they should have done this or that, until

:30:23. > :30:26.they come up with something better, the Parades' Commission is what you

:30:27. > :30:31.are stuck with, but if you are stuck with it, they have do have the

:30:32. > :30:35.courage to come onto the programme and explain exactly what happened,

:30:36. > :30:41.because the last few days has been a mess. A PR disaster. You work in PR

:30:42. > :30:44.and public affairs and you were a journalist for many years. Do you

:30:45. > :30:49.think the School report is could do better, in its current incarnation

:30:50. > :30:53.question I think this could have been handled better. We will see

:30:54. > :30:58.this as a fairly dramatic and obvious U-turn by the Parades'

:30:59. > :31:01.Commission in relation to this. It was interesting that Brian Kennaway

:31:02. > :31:05.spoke about the importance of the commission sticking with the

:31:06. > :31:07.decision but it's important it makes the right decision in the first

:31:08. > :31:12.instance and is in full possession of the facts. Interesting that

:31:13. > :31:16.Dolores Kelly was talking about the belief in the nationalist community

:31:17. > :31:22.in Portadown that they give out the road issued had been settled --

:31:23. > :31:27.Vahey Road issue had been settled, and it's another case of people not

:31:28. > :31:31.knowing. Some sources talking about unrest during the marching season. I

:31:32. > :31:37.don't know what you are hearing, but some people are not, and they don't

:31:38. > :31:40.want to see -- seem to be wanting to talk up the situation, but there

:31:41. > :31:46.must be some concern three weeks from the 12th of July. The tour of

:31:47. > :31:51.the North people said could be spectacularly bad but it passed over

:31:52. > :31:54.peacefully. We all come from the media perspective. Maybe we didn't

:31:55. > :31:57.talk it up enough and say that this was an example of a parade which

:31:58. > :32:02.could have been bad but was actually very good. But I know on both

:32:03. > :32:06.sides, not just the DUP, but also Sinn Fein and other elements of

:32:07. > :32:09.republicanism are both privately say that this Parades' Commission and

:32:10. > :32:12.the previous one, that's going to give this a problem if they don't

:32:13. > :32:17.make the right decision and make it go our way. What do you make of the

:32:18. > :32:21.first minister announcing that he will not go to Brazil because he's

:32:22. > :32:28.concerned the marching season? Extraordinary. As you were

:32:29. > :32:31.suggesting to David Simpson, in terms of the available information

:32:32. > :32:36.the BBC journalist, we had Dolores Kelly talking about the perception

:32:37. > :32:41.of threats being made to the political process, and David Simpson

:32:42. > :32:46.talking about people expressing concerns for Northern Ireland. It is

:32:47. > :32:51.certainly difficult to distinguish between the two. Let's move on to

:32:52. > :32:56.the fulcrum of the political process, the relationship between

:32:57. > :33:00.the first minister and Deputy first Minister. You saw Martina Purdy's

:33:01. > :33:05.report and we saw them contented with the Queen, but clearly not

:33:06. > :33:09.contented as far as dealing with outstanding policy issues. The

:33:10. > :33:13.difficulty with the two men is that they don't like each other. Forget

:33:14. > :33:16.the optics, the smiles of a camera, on a personal level, they don't like

:33:17. > :33:22.each other. It's like Abbott and Costello. A big successful show

:33:23. > :33:27.business couple, but away from the screen they despised each other. If

:33:28. > :33:30.the two men at the centre don't like each other, it's difficult for

:33:31. > :33:36.anything to trickle down other than the same hostility. To be fair to

:33:37. > :33:43.them, there was agreement today at the executive on the single farm

:33:44. > :33:47.payment. A chink of light, but the issues of welfare reform, coming in

:33:48. > :33:52.the near future, that will be more difficult to resolve. If I had a

:33:53. > :33:55.party popper, I would blow it. Good for you. Bring one next time you are

:33:56. > :33:57.here. That's it from The View

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