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:00:00. > :00:25.Hello and welcome to the The View. Tonight: A signed pledge calling

:00:26. > :00:27.for peaceful protests. But what does the pan-unionist

:00:28. > :00:37.graduated response mean for the political process here?

:00:38. > :00:42.Westminster and Europe, the denial of cultural expression resulting

:00:43. > :00:47.from republican violence and threats of violence will have a consequence

:00:48. > :00:49.determining how our members at each of these levels of government will

:00:50. > :00:53.participate. for the political process here?

:00:54. > :01:00.As Peter Robinson refuses to be drawn on whether or not the

:01:01. > :01:08.Institutions are under threat, we ask how solid evolution is. The end

:01:09. > :01:13.of term and the awards. Our experts have been chewing the fat over how

:01:14. > :01:16.local politicians have performed. Joining us, two of the judges,

:01:17. > :01:19.Newton Emerson and Cathy Gormley-Heenan. You can follow the

:01:20. > :01:36.debate on Twitter as it happens. Good evening. Another 12th of July

:01:37. > :01:39.and another crisis over a parade. The First Minister joined fellow

:01:40. > :01:42.unionist leaders at an Orange Hall this morning where they senior

:01:43. > :01:46.members of the Orange Order signed a pledge calling for peaceful protests

:01:47. > :01:52.in their continuing challenge to the ruling on Saturday afternoon's

:01:53. > :01:55.Ardoyne parade. They called for a commission of inquiry. The order

:01:56. > :02:00.revealed its plan to stop parades for six minutes as a protest. The

:02:01. > :02:04.grand secretary Drew Nelson is with me. Thank you for joining us. The

:02:05. > :02:08.fact the parade cannot happen as you would like it to on Saturday is

:02:09. > :02:13.clearly an issue for the Orangemen involved and the order itself. Why

:02:14. > :02:18.bring the rest of us into it? There is a point of principle here which

:02:19. > :02:23.is important for the institution. We think that since the party

:02:24. > :02:27.processions that was passed and the Parades Commission came into view,

:02:28. > :02:34.it has continually tighten the screw on the orders and what we do which

:02:35. > :02:41.is parading. It is a six minute parade. What is reasonable about

:02:42. > :02:46.making such a fuss over such a short issue? That is the question I would

:02:47. > :02:49.put to the nationalist and republican groups opposing the

:02:50. > :02:53.parade. What is the big difficulty about us coming down that road for

:02:54. > :03:02.six minutes? There is a basic question of respect here. Tolerance.

:03:03. > :03:04.Why is it that the nationalist community and the republican

:03:05. > :03:11.community feel they cannot tolerate us coming peacefully down a road for

:03:12. > :03:14.six minutes? There is also a respect and tolerance issue the other way

:03:15. > :03:17.around. Why can't you be more tolerant of the nationalist

:03:18. > :03:23.residents who have a problem with it? They are not happy about it in

:03:24. > :03:27.the afternoon. Why can't you compromise? What is the difference

:03:28. > :03:30.between the morning parade and afternoon parade? If they can

:03:31. > :03:35.tolerate us in the morning, what is the difference in the afternoon rush

:03:36. > :03:39.at is that not a compromise? Everyone else can get on with their

:03:40. > :03:44.lives -- what is the difference in the afternoon? The real compromise

:03:45. > :03:52.would be for those opposed to the parades to be able to share this

:03:53. > :03:57.space with us. We are only asking for six minutes. I think it should

:03:58. > :04:03.be shared more evenly. I honestly cannot understand what their

:04:04. > :04:08.difficulty is with a six minute parade down a road and back up a

:04:09. > :04:12.road in the evening. They do have a problem with it, whether you like it

:04:13. > :04:18.or not, whether you can understand it or not. They have that problem.

:04:19. > :04:23.How do you persuade them that the Orange Order is not something for

:04:24. > :04:26.them to be fearful of or antagonistic towards when all you

:04:27. > :04:33.keep saying is they need to fold, and you need to be allowed do what

:04:34. > :04:38.you want? I do not see it to be a question of them folding. In many

:04:39. > :04:42.parts of the province, there is a greater tolerance from the

:04:43. > :04:45.nationalist unity. I was at an opening of an Orange Hall on Tuesday

:04:46. > :04:51.night. Local Roman Catholic priest wrote a letter of congratulations to

:04:52. > :04:56.the members of the hall. It was read out and got a big round of

:04:57. > :05:01.applause. That was there, we are talking about Ardoyne. The problem

:05:02. > :05:09.is, there has been a contentious parade in that part of Belfast a

:05:10. > :05:14.long period of time. That is why our members and the wider community have

:05:15. > :05:18.been engaging in talks with the nationalist community for many

:05:19. > :05:24.months. That is not just about North Belfast. We have other issues across

:05:25. > :05:29.the province. In Drumcree we were told for many years, no talk, no

:05:30. > :05:34.walk. When we offered to talk, the Nationalists there opposed to us are

:05:35. > :05:43.fusing to talk and they are still rewarded whilst we were penalised

:05:44. > :05:49.for not talking a few years ago -- are refusing to talk. You have asked

:05:50. > :05:53.the government to consider an inquiry. The Secretary of State has

:05:54. > :05:56.not ruled it out. The Parades Commission is the lawfully

:05:57. > :06:02.constituted independent body to rule on these issues whether you like it

:06:03. > :06:08.or not. Absolutely. We accept that. We want the law changed. Our opinion

:06:09. > :06:13.is it is a bad law. The public processions act is weighted against

:06:14. > :06:17.those who in gauge in parades. It is weighted against the Protestant

:06:18. > :06:19.community because it regulates parades, not other large-scale

:06:20. > :06:29.events that take place in the public space. Parades are the cultural

:06:30. > :06:35.expression, 90%, of the Protestant community. That is why we feel this

:06:36. > :06:41.is a bad law. We understand it was brought in in the late 90s at a time

:06:42. > :06:51.when cease-fires were coming around. We believe it was a price that was

:06:52. > :06:58.paid for a cease-fire. The price that was paid, it was part of the

:06:59. > :07:05.price paid. It is now having a bad effect on the democratic system. It

:07:06. > :07:08.is undermining democracy. If the Parades Commission was producing

:07:09. > :07:13.determination July, would use to be calling for it to be replaced? A

:07:14. > :07:18.determination by its nature is something that restricts parades.

:07:19. > :07:25.What we do is peaceful and lawful. You are not answering my question.

:07:26. > :07:30.If the Parades Commission was calling for determinations you

:07:31. > :07:35.liked, would you be calling for it to be replaced? Yes. The legislation

:07:36. > :07:42.is unfair and one-sided and it should be replaced. It is a model,

:07:43. > :07:47.in my opinion, that is faulty. I do not often agree with the leader of

:07:48. > :07:51.the Alliance party. He indicated last week he thought the model

:07:52. > :07:53.brought out around the same time for the administration in Stormont for

:07:54. > :07:59.the political setup is faulty and needs to be repaired. This

:08:00. > :08:04.legislation is equally faulty. Finally, what if we see violence on

:08:05. > :08:08.Saturday night like last year's violence were Loyalist and some

:08:09. > :08:12.Orangemen came onto the streets and attacked the police? How can you be

:08:13. > :08:19.sure it will not happen again this year? I cannot be sure, but what I

:08:20. > :08:25.can assure you is that the Orange institution has put a massive effort

:08:26. > :08:28.into calming the situation in Northern Ireland, into organising

:08:29. > :08:32.alternative protests across the country that will be controlled by

:08:33. > :08:38.the institution and which will be absolutely peaceful and these

:08:39. > :08:45.protest parades will have a start and finish time. You don't think it

:08:46. > :08:49.is a risky strategy? It is less risky than doing nothing. We are

:08:50. > :08:53.trying to manage the situation. If we did nothing, it would create a

:08:54. > :08:57.more volatile situation and increase the risk of violence and we are

:08:58. > :08:59.doing everything in our power to stop that. We need to leave it

:09:00. > :09:07.there, thank you, Drew Nelson. In the game of political chicken now

:09:08. > :09:10.being played out between Unionists and the Secretary of State over the

:09:11. > :09:13.future of the Parades Commission, it is not yet clear who is more

:09:14. > :09:16.determined to hold the line. The First Minister said today there

:09:17. > :09:18.will be consequences for participation at council, assembly,

:09:19. > :09:20.Westminster and European levels. So, is this just about a parade?

:09:21. > :09:23.Or is it part of a wider power struggle

:09:24. > :09:24.at an already shaky Stormont? Martina Purdy has been taking

:09:25. > :09:32.a look. Leek the old Stormont has withered

:09:33. > :09:41.but found new life and power-sharing. -- the old Stormont.

:09:42. > :09:52.But for how long? It is being tested.

:09:53. > :10:00.This piece garden was supposed to symbolise reconciliation post

:10:01. > :10:10.agreement. For some time now, cracks have been in power-sharing and the

:10:11. > :10:15.relationship. There are problems over flags, parading, the past,

:10:16. > :10:18.welfare policy and money. Just a few months ago, the First Minister

:10:19. > :10:23.threatened to quit over revelations about Republicans on the run being

:10:24. > :10:26.given comfort letters. Today he suggested the assembly and other

:10:27. > :10:32.elected bodies would be part of a protest over the parades dispute in

:10:33. > :10:38.Ardoyne. The parties are agreed that at every level, council, assembly,

:10:39. > :10:43.Westminster and Europe, the denial of cultural expression resulting

:10:44. > :10:48.from republican violence and threats of violence will have a consequence

:10:49. > :10:53.determining how our members at each of these levels of government will

:10:54. > :10:58.participate. What it means. Montt has not been revealed, perhaps it

:10:59. > :11:06.involves creating a few more cracks here and there -- what it means for

:11:07. > :11:09.Stormont has not been revealed. I would prefer that as the nuclear

:11:10. > :11:12.option. If you are going to bring down the assembly and all its works

:11:13. > :11:15.and the executive, all of that, down the assembly and all its works

:11:16. > :11:23.and the executive, all of we are treading into very dangerous

:11:24. > :11:29.territory altogether. Stormont cannot be placed in any kind of

:11:30. > :11:34.jeopardy. I hear talk, very foolhardy and reckless talk, about

:11:35. > :11:40.bringing Stormont down. Anybody saying that is not a unionist. We

:11:41. > :11:45.have an opportunity with Stormont. It is not perfect but it is ours.

:11:46. > :11:49.The roof is being repaired but it could be a metaphor for the system

:11:50. > :11:53.itself. Like a work of art, it remains unfinished. It is a changing

:11:54. > :11:59.picture offering perhaps little stability. There is already deep

:12:00. > :12:04.enquiries going on about successions, who will succeed Peter

:12:05. > :12:12.Robinson? Do you think he will go in September as rumoured? There is

:12:13. > :12:21.every likelihood of it. Why would he bother with the creations of

:12:22. > :12:26.instability? I believe he is trying to create stability and maintaining

:12:27. > :12:33.a firm stance with the responsible at ease he has. It is possible

:12:34. > :12:38.graduate response to parading is a carefully design valve to ease

:12:39. > :12:42.pressures. Come the autumn, no real threat to Stormont at all. Even if

:12:43. > :12:48.that is true, some think this strategy is not enough to ensure

:12:49. > :12:54.Stormont's future. The Irish Government need to engage

:12:55. > :12:58.with Sinn Fein as the nationalist side of the partnership in the

:12:59. > :13:03.North. When asked if their plan meant pulling the plug on Stormont

:13:04. > :13:06.neither main unionist party gave either a firm guarantee of

:13:07. > :13:11.continuing support or made a threat to walk away. Can unionists afford

:13:12. > :13:16.to pull the plug? Do they have more to lose than nationalists? I think

:13:17. > :13:23.everybody would lose. Of course, you have to remember, every time that

:13:24. > :13:28.unionists walk out of the negotiating room, what's left on the

:13:29. > :13:34.table becomes less and less. Others say Sinn Fein also need Stormont to

:13:35. > :13:38.work to demonstrate to voters in the Republic they are capable of

:13:39. > :13:43.governing. If after seven years, I suppose there hasn't been much

:13:44. > :13:46.achieved by either side at Stormont, it was to collapse, that would

:13:47. > :13:51.create potential difficulty for them in the South unless they were able

:13:52. > :13:56.to lay all the blame at the door of Eunicism and say - it was nothing to

:13:57. > :13:59.do for us. From a unionist perspective it's difficult to see

:14:00. > :14:03.where collapsing Stormont would get them. The view from Dublin is that

:14:04. > :14:10.the parties are too self involved to help one another and themselves.

:14:11. > :14:14.There is a sense Peter Robinson is desperately worried not to move too

:14:15. > :14:18.far ahead of the most hardline elements in his community. As a

:14:19. > :14:29.result, he is almost tied to them, that is on that side. On the other

:14:30. > :14:32.side, Martin McGuinness made tremendous sides to reconcile in the

:14:33. > :14:36.community and make the process work. Other elements in Sinn Fein are

:14:37. > :14:39.playing to a tribal agenda. Whatever Eunicism decides to do with

:14:40. > :14:44.Stormont, it appears to be playing for time. Perhaps realising that any

:14:45. > :14:50.sudden move risks prolonged periods of no power at all. Martina Purdy

:14:51. > :14:55.reporting. With me in the studio is Gerry Kelly from Sinn Fein and from

:14:56. > :15:01.Londonderry we are joined by the DUP's Gregory Campbell. Your party

:15:02. > :15:04.leader said receipt action of the Parades' Commission would provoke

:15:05. > :15:07.political consequences, including Stormont and at Westminster, both of

:15:08. > :15:11.which will affect you, presumably. What does it mean, precisely? A few

:15:12. > :15:15.days ago people were saying - we need to know what this graduated

:15:16. > :15:22.response is, can you not outline. It I and others made it clear, before

:15:23. > :15:26.the 12th things would be more clear. They are now. A graduated response

:15:27. > :15:31.remains that gradually, step-by-step, these positions will

:15:32. > :15:36.be unveiled as they are required to be unveiled - Will you stop

:15:37. > :15:41.attending committees, what can you do? Let us take it a step at a time.

:15:42. > :15:46.The one thing we don't want to do, Mark. It's a bit odd that you hear

:15:47. > :15:49.people - it's supposed to be unionists who are supposed to be

:15:50. > :15:54.threatening the institutions, despite the fact that we're not.

:15:55. > :15:56.Everybody else that wants to blame unionists for threatening the

:15:57. > :16:00.institutions seems to be talking about, it we aren't talking about

:16:01. > :16:04.that. Let us not pre-empt sort of crises a day at a time. A week ago a

:16:05. > :16:09.bad decision was made by the Parades' Commission. We need to try

:16:10. > :16:12.to rectify that. We do to do it democratically and lawfully. Now we

:16:13. > :16:16.have managed that over the course of the last week. Let us see the next

:16:17. > :16:22.week being peaceful and the week after that. Let us try and get the

:16:23. > :16:26.issues resolved so that everyone is satisfied and can move forward next

:16:27. > :16:30.year into a much more satisfactory position in the summer. You said

:16:31. > :16:34.this Parades' Commission ruling was a reward for violence. Or the threat

:16:35. > :16:38.of violence. There has been violence on all sides in the past, would you

:16:39. > :16:42.have are preferred the commission to rule in favour of the return parade

:16:43. > :16:47.this year as a reward for the loyalist violence of last year? No,

:16:48. > :16:52.I would prefer that the Parades' Commission, even more preferibly, a

:16:53. > :16:57.successor body, would say - let's look at this dispassionately. Let us

:16:58. > :17:02.see is there an offence being caused? Any intent to cause offence?

:17:03. > :17:06.How long will it take? Is it reasonable or unreasonable for this

:17:07. > :17:11.parade to pass? In the short time it takes? Take a decision based on

:17:12. > :17:15.logic. This Parades' Commission hasn't done any of that. That is

:17:16. > :17:23.what I would prefer. Gerry Kelly, let me ask you something that Drew

:17:24. > :17:26.Nelson referred to, how come republicans in North Belfast can

:17:27. > :17:29.tolerate the parade in the morning in the Ardoyne, not the afternoon?

:17:30. > :17:34.We can go through this again and this nonsense about six minutes is a

:17:35. > :17:38.nonsense. I have been at these parades for 15 years. There is never

:17:39. > :17:42.a six minute period in this. Other things need to be taken into

:17:43. > :17:45.consideration which I mefr never mentioned the sectarianism involved

:17:46. > :17:49.and the bands involved in this are named after people who were actually

:17:50. > :17:55.involved in killing Catholics along this route. That the sectarian abuse

:17:56. > :17:59.that comes from some of the marchers is involved as well. It's not as

:18:00. > :18:02.simple as that. The Parades' Commission did look at this

:18:03. > :18:07.dispassionately. They did look at all the things that you and I might

:18:08. > :18:11.talk about or you, me and Gregory might talk about here, they came to

:18:12. > :18:15.a decision. A small section of a long parade. One of unhads of

:18:16. > :18:21.parades and thousands of parades that take part every year. We are

:18:22. > :18:24.hearing, despite what Gregory says, the First Minister, refused to

:18:25. > :18:27.answer today and threatened before about the institutions. We are

:18:28. > :18:31.talking about they will have a graduated approach through councils,

:18:32. > :18:36.the Assembly, Europe and Westminster. You can't look upon it

:18:37. > :18:40.as any other thing except that they got a decision against them. I had

:18:41. > :18:45.to face many decisions which I disagreed with. We said before this

:18:46. > :18:49.determination was made, that whatever the determination, let's

:18:50. > :18:53.adhere to it and move on. Is OK. You have consistently called for

:18:54. > :18:57.dialogue. Does dialogue actually mean demanding consent. Is that what

:18:58. > :19:02.you want, Orangemen to seek your consent? Dialogue means real

:19:03. > :19:06.meaningful dialogue. What happened was that there were talks. I was

:19:07. > :19:10.involved in them, as it happens. The Orange withdrew from those talks in

:19:11. > :19:16.June. Way before the 12th July. Wouldn't come back in. The residents

:19:17. > :19:20.group asked for clarification. Sdbt didn't get clarification. They come

:19:21. > :19:23.back and argue that they had talks and something should have happened.

:19:24. > :19:29.The fact was, the talks did not come to a conclusion. No matter what we

:19:30. > :19:34.do in an over arching issue, we have to deal with parades. I say to Drew

:19:35. > :19:38.Nelson, they had the chance in 2010. They had a representative at the

:19:39. > :19:46.talks. We did come to a conclusion. It was Drew Nelson and the hierarchy

:19:47. > :20:00.of the Orange Order that pulled out of it. Why is the six minute parade

:20:01. > :20:04.worth so muchup heaval and unrest. Where should police cover such a

:20:05. > :20:11.tension situation? Hopefully, none of that will be put at risk. The six

:20:12. > :20:16.minute parade is symptomatic of what happened over the course of the last

:20:17. > :20:21.15-20 years. There were a series of parades in this area of North

:20:22. > :20:25.Belfast have been reduced down the year. Whether it was eight, nine,

:20:26. > :20:30.then six, three, now it's down to one. Is that - are you telling me

:20:31. > :20:35.that is worth putting the lives of police officers at risk? These

:20:36. > :20:39.parades - Nothing is worth - So sacred to the unionist community and

:20:40. > :20:44.to the Orange community that you being are prepared to put police in

:20:45. > :20:48.the firing line, literally? You have said that a couple of times, Mark.

:20:49. > :20:53.Nobody is prepared to put police officers lives or anyone else's

:20:54. > :20:56.lives at risk. The we shouldn't have people from Sinn Fein. They are the

:20:57. > :21:00.last people to talk about anybody's lives being put at risk given what

:21:01. > :21:04.they took us through - They were at risk last year? They were.

:21:05. > :21:08.Hopefully, it won't be the case this year. It hasn't been the case since

:21:09. > :21:13.this determination was announced, wrong as it was illogical as it was.

:21:14. > :21:16.No evidence of any violence of any kind in any illegal activity in the

:21:17. > :21:19.past week. Let us make sure, whatever we say and do, means that

:21:20. > :21:22.is maintained over the course of the next Are you week. Confident that

:21:23. > :21:26.will be the case? Well, hopefully it will. I mean, if people are being

:21:27. > :21:29.looking for guarantees, nobody can give a guarantee. We don't know what

:21:30. > :21:32.will happen tonight or tomorrow. Hopefully, it will be the same as it

:21:33. > :21:37.was yesterday, and the day before and the day before that. We have to

:21:38. > :21:42.resolve these matters. We have have to get to the point where

:21:43. > :21:48.nationalists and republicans can see no offence is intended. If none is

:21:49. > :21:51.being intended then insist on taking offence and demanding that these

:21:52. > :21:56.parades are rerouted or restricted in some way to give offence to the

:21:57. > :22:01.unionist A final community. Question to Gerry Kelly. The unionists have

:22:02. > :22:04.asked, you will have seen it in the press conference, they asked the

:22:05. > :22:07.Government to set up a time-bound commission of inquiry to look at

:22:08. > :22:11.this issue. Will you co-operate with that, support that? Is is that a

:22:12. > :22:16.reasonable way of moving the process forward or will you block it? It

:22:17. > :22:21.adds to the silliness of the theatre today when the Union Jack, Billy

:22:22. > :22:24.Hudson wearing a top hat. It actually - they have asked for a

:22:25. > :22:28.commission into a Commission. There is a Commission. The Parades'

:22:29. > :22:31.Commission. It was set up by statute. Set up by the British

:22:32. > :22:36.Government who they are going to now to set up a commission. They have

:22:37. > :22:41.problems with it, you can't put that away? They are asking this British

:22:42. > :22:47.Secretary of State for a commission on a small section of a parade when

:22:48. > :22:54.this same Secretary of State refused recently to give any inquest to very

:22:55. > :22:57.serious killings in the past and refused public inquiries into a

:22:58. > :23:02.number of other killings in the past as well. Is we need to leave it

:23:03. > :23:05.there. Gerry shouldn't talk about killings. We need to leave it there.

:23:06. > :23:11.Thank you both very much. Now, it's our last programme

:23:12. > :23:14.before the summer break which means it's time for our second

:23:15. > :23:16.annual, The View Political Awards. We gathered our team of esteemed

:23:17. > :23:19.commentators, appropriately enough, at the venue of the Haass talks,

:23:20. > :23:21.the Stormont Hotel. But unlike those negotiations,

:23:22. > :23:38.our discussions produced results. The first category is Best Newcomer.

:23:39. > :23:43.Get the ball rolling. I like Ross Brown of the Greens. He ran a very

:23:44. > :23:47.good election campaign. I think he was one of the best performers on

:23:48. > :23:58.the hustings. His background, he used to be a DUP-supporting time.

:23:59. > :24:03.Ing -- type. Can we though Nicola Mallon into the ring. She has come

:24:04. > :24:08.centre stage as the first nationalist female Lord Mayor and

:24:09. > :24:35.hosted the Queen. I love an under dog. That is in terms of NI21. A

:24:36. > :24:36.disaster of the year. For Johnny allows me to snatch one small

:24:37. > :24:53.victory. I think his contribution on the

:24:54. > :25:00.education brief has been quite good. Let us move on to Best Minister.

:25:01. > :25:04.Simon Hamilton. If you take away the issue around, in terms of

:25:05. > :25:13.performance. If you look at manners in his role. He is stood above the

:25:14. > :25:18.parapet. Michelle O'Neill is responsible for the agreement of

:25:19. > :25:24.firearm subsidy payments. A triumph and a light at a difficult time.

:25:25. > :25:28.Deirdre Heenan is suggesting Arlene Foster is in a league of her own,

:25:29. > :25:36.articulate, incisive. Bat off a determined opponent with a withering

:25:37. > :25:40.glance and a sharp - I will go for Simon Hamilton. He has been the most

:25:41. > :25:47.impressive minister overall without question. Danny Kennedy as a

:25:48. > :25:51.possible contender. I'm bedazzled by the Giro d'Italia and the Tour de

:25:52. > :25:56.France this week I think his initiative on Belfast on the Move

:25:57. > :26:04.and the cycling revolution was a really inspiring thing. Was it Danny

:26:05. > :26:12.in lycra that did it? Yeah! Nobody put Peter Robinson into the... Best

:26:13. > :26:24.Use of Social Media. This is uncontested. The winner should be

:26:25. > :26:31.Mairtin OMuilleoir. It was impossible for him to be - I would

:26:32. > :26:36.like to nominate NI21 as a cautionary tale. They got 2% of the

:26:37. > :26:42.vote when they were in meltdown. That is through their social media

:26:43. > :26:52.presence. They used it to get themselves started. Wonderful

:26:53. > :27:01.slogans. Impressed with Naomi Long. Her performance on the Select

:27:02. > :27:07.Committee. I know who Miley Cyrus is. Then Best Political Moment. That

:27:08. > :27:15.moment where a bomb shell dropped. NI21 implosion. When John

:27:16. > :27:19.McCallister walked into the party I'm leader of and said - it's

:27:20. > :27:26.dysfunctional, please don't vote for it. When the talks collapsed, the

:27:27. > :27:30.Haass talks collapsed. When Mark interviewed Richard Haass and asked

:27:31. > :27:34.him whether he would consider coming back. You might come back for one

:27:35. > :27:43.further final push if that sorted it out once and for all? For his laugh.

:27:44. > :27:47.What happened this year, that made the biggest difference, something

:27:48. > :27:52.new, the on-the-runs verdict. The Downey judgment what it revealed.

:27:53. > :27:53.Dirty deals were out in the open. Former Government ministers were

:27:54. > :28:08.saying, we let people off the hook. Queen. It was a very potent moment.

:28:09. > :28:13.At the time, I was quite flippant. You look back five years even, that

:28:14. > :28:24.would not have happened. The final category, Best MLA. The late David.

:28:25. > :28:30.He had an ability to take a serious moment and bring it all back to

:28:31. > :28:37.normal. Everybody referred to him as a gentleman. I think he should be a

:28:38. > :28:43.serious contender. I the doorstep interview when she was very

:28:44. > :28:47.emotional. I know ethnic minorities have been attacked and I feel

:28:48. > :28:54.vulnerable. I think it was quite moving. Anna, I would agree on

:28:55. > :28:59.that. Yes, her grace and the pressure she has been under, but the

:29:00. > :29:09.light she shone on the issue of racism in Northern Ireland. If you

:29:10. > :29:13.are asking who has the most influence in the assembly, who is

:29:14. > :29:25.the one people like us watch, who gets the most coverage? It is Jim

:29:26. > :29:29.Allister. Will Jim Allister take the coveted title two years in a row? We

:29:30. > :29:39.will find out shortly. Deirdre Heenan, who emailed her

:29:40. > :29:43.choices, Alex Kane, Orna Young, And of course,

:29:44. > :30:01.Newton Emerson and Cathy The winner is Ross Brown. Why? It

:30:02. > :30:06.showed the move of the Green Party into Belfast and I think that is a

:30:07. > :30:09.trend that is probably set to continue and Ross Brown will be

:30:10. > :30:18.leading the charge on that. He is a new, with a longevity to his

:30:19. > :30:23.political career, probably. He was tweeting advice last month on where

:30:24. > :30:32.to buy heating oil. He certainly made an impact in a short buried of

:30:33. > :30:35.time. Well done to Ross Brown. Now best minister, won by Martin

:30:36. > :30:44.McGuinness last year. Newton, can you do the honours? The winner, near

:30:45. > :30:50.unanimous decision, Simon Hamilton. Why? He is a new minister in the

:30:51. > :30:55.post. This year the welfare reform issue blew up and he has managed to

:30:56. > :31:00.keep a level head throughout that. Almost everyone thought it was very

:31:01. > :31:05.impressive. He said almost everyone. My first choice would have been

:31:06. > :31:08.Arlene Foster. She made a great impression this year. She can reduce

:31:09. > :31:17.her opponents to withering messes with her strong stir. She was a good

:31:18. > :31:22.contender. Let us move on to best use of social media. You told us who

:31:23. > :31:25.you think should win this hands down. Let us see if you were

:31:26. > :31:31.successful in persuading the other judges. And the winner of the best

:31:32. > :31:40.use of social media, is the price of rice, Mairtin O Muilleoir. --

:31:41. > :31:46.surprise, surprise. He was pictured with everybody all year long! He

:31:47. > :31:52.managed to completely rebrand the idea of what the Lord may's office

:31:53. > :32:00.is for. To be fair, it was not hard to persuade the other judges -- the

:32:01. > :32:05.Lord Mayor. I am not on Twitter and even I knew what he was up to. The

:32:06. > :32:13.Ricci had permeated beyond social media -- the reach he had. It is

:32:14. > :32:18.time for you to get onto Twitter! I know. I will think about it over the

:32:19. > :32:25.summer. Best political moment. You are going to take us through this

:32:26. > :32:30.one, Newton. A huge number of possibilities. Was it an easy

:32:31. > :32:35.choice? No. We tried to separate processes from moments. We wanted to

:32:36. > :32:39.pick a moment that summed up the whole year rather than any of the

:32:40. > :32:49.big set piece developments. What did you go with? The winner is... Dr

:32:50. > :32:57.Richard Haass's laugh when asked by you if he would return to Chad

:32:58. > :33:02.further talks. Explain because some people might see it as a small

:33:03. > :33:09.moment -- return to chair further talks. That last third 50,000

:33:10. > :33:12.words. That summed up everything that was wrong about the Richard

:33:13. > :33:17.Haass process. It summed up very clearly what was going to happen

:33:18. > :33:23.between January and June which was not a lot. The fact he laughed

:33:24. > :33:29.showed he was not coming back. It shows what the people here who

:33:30. > :33:38.pretend to take that seriously really think of us when looking in!

:33:39. > :33:45.Finally, Best MLA won last year by Jim Allister. It was difficult. It

:33:46. > :33:50.was a very difficult decision. Probably most of the conversation

:33:51. > :33:58.that date was on who should win Best MLA. Put us out of our misery. The

:33:59. > :34:03.winner of Best MLA for 2014 is a shared award because the jury was

:34:04. > :34:17.split and could not agree. The award goes to both Jim Allister and Anna

:34:18. > :34:21.Lo. Jim Allister has no position himself because the DUP and Sinn

:34:22. > :34:26.Fein tend to ignore him. A qualified vote for Jim Allister from the

:34:27. > :34:31.panel. With Anna Lo, what she showed the electorate was a different type

:34:32. > :34:35.of political leader. As well as being chair of one of the committees

:34:36. > :34:41.of the environment committee, she faced down intimidation and threats

:34:42. > :34:47.herself with good grace and a really strong backbone. A woman with a very

:34:48. > :34:53.strong conviction and a lot of courage. We need to leave at there.

:34:54. > :34:57.It was a long afternoon. But we did reach some conclusions, even if

:34:58. > :35:01.there were compromises! That is it from The View tonight and this

:35:02. > :35:13.varies. Unlike Arthur Brooks, we will definitely be coming back. For

:35:14. > :35:16.now from all of us, goodbye. -- tonight and this series.