:00:00. > :00:00.the referendum which should have settled the Europe question has
:00:07. > :00:09.changed politics here, in Westminster and Brussels.
:00:10. > :00:14.One week on - we ask if we're any the wiser
:00:15. > :00:16.as to how, precisely, Brexit will change
:00:17. > :00:41.They say a week is a long time in politics, but surely even
:00:42. > :00:43.Harold Wilson at his most imaginative couldn't have envisaged
:00:44. > :00:46.the twists and turns of the past seven days.
:00:47. > :00:56.The Prime Minister's resigned, Boris Johnson has ruled himself out
:00:57. > :00:58.of the leadership race and the Labour party is in turmoil,
:00:59. > :01:01.as Jeremy Corbyn clings to power without the support of most
:01:02. > :01:04.After impassioned debate on the floor of the European
:01:05. > :01:06.Parliament earlier this week, our three MEPs are here
:01:07. > :01:10.And we'll head to London for the latest on the state
:01:11. > :01:16.Locked in a room, our commentators thrash it out
:01:17. > :01:21.to decide who should receive this year's annual View Awards.
:01:22. > :01:32.Totally disagree. Why and who it should be the?
:01:33. > :01:36.And that long day runs into the night in Commentators'
:01:37. > :01:38.Corner, where Deirdre Heenan and Newton Emerson will
:01:39. > :01:44.Well, what a difference a week makes.
:01:45. > :01:45.This time last Thursday, the referendum counting
:01:46. > :01:48.had just got underway, Nigel Farage had all but conceded
:01:49. > :01:51.defeat and the Remain camp appeared quietly confident.
:01:52. > :01:53.Since then the political landscape has changed almost
:01:54. > :01:58.We'll catch up on the drama unfolding at Westminster
:01:59. > :02:00.later in the programme - but first, let's see
:02:01. > :02:04.Our three MEPs - Diane Dodds, Martina Anderson and Jim Nicholson -
:02:05. > :02:13.Diane Dodds, you wanted this outcome.
:02:14. > :02:22.Is there anything about it which makes you uncomfortable?
:02:23. > :02:29.The people of the United Kingdom have spoken. The referendum has now
:02:30. > :02:37.been run. There is a vote to leave and what we need to do is recognise
:02:38. > :02:42.that there was a narrow vote to leave. Lots of people wanted to
:02:43. > :02:45.stay. We must now set the result of the referendum, look towards the
:02:46. > :02:51.future, build on the opportunities that the future will bring us and
:02:52. > :02:59.also begin that clear negotiation which will bring us out from the
:03:00. > :03:02.European Union. There is an awful lot of uncertainty and in northern
:03:03. > :03:13.Ireland more people voted to remain and belief. It was a national
:03:14. > :03:20.question and we received a national arts and -- answer. We accept the
:03:21. > :03:28.result of the referendum as part of the United Kingdom. In Brussels this
:03:29. > :03:32.week it was made perfectly clear that Brussels will only negotiate
:03:33. > :03:38.with the United Kingdom and with the member state. We in Northern Ireland
:03:39. > :03:42.need to take a pause, calmly reflect on where we are, bring our people
:03:43. > :03:45.together and negotiate the best terms we can for the United Kingdom
:03:46. > :03:51.in that national association. Martina Anderson, you didn't want
:03:52. > :03:54.this result, but we are where we are and there isn't much
:03:55. > :04:04.you can do about it. I think that is an absolute insult
:04:05. > :04:11.to the majority of the people who voted to remain. The majority of
:04:12. > :04:20.people across the UK voted to leave. As I said, I was an M EP who without
:04:21. > :04:24.knocking on doors and visiting almost every constituency. The
:04:25. > :04:33.constituents I care about boats is my own. -- most. The people who
:04:34. > :04:38.voted for me and my party during the European election, and therefore I
:04:39. > :04:44.think their vote and the vote to remain has to be respected. It
:04:45. > :04:48.wasn't. It is not just about the people who voted for you, it is
:04:49. > :04:52.about everyone who voted and more people voted to leave than remain.
:04:53. > :05:02.That is democracy. People in the North voted to remain. There was a
:05:03. > :05:07.number of people, and they voted overwhelmingly to remain. We cannot
:05:08. > :05:13.have a situation in Ireland where part of the islanders in the EU as
:05:14. > :05:18.part of it is outside of it. That is what we are looking at now. Of
:05:19. > :05:24.course it is, and there is turmoil out there. There is concern and
:05:25. > :05:31.genuine fear and people take exception to be told their concern
:05:32. > :05:42.and fear is grandstanding. That cannot be further from the truth.
:05:43. > :05:48.How do you sum up the feeling in Brussels? What do you make of where
:05:49. > :05:53.we are and where we are going? To some extent I've seen it all before.
:05:54. > :05:59.We haven't seen anything like this before. When they brought forward
:06:00. > :06:04.the Constitution and it was rejected in the referendum, they were in as
:06:05. > :06:13.big a position as they are today. The only difference is now Europe is
:06:14. > :06:17.27 member states. This is a time for cool heads. Talking to some people
:06:18. > :06:25.in Brussels, they are certainly... The initial reaction, it's natural
:06:26. > :06:29.for the reaction that took place. I think what was going to happen.
:06:30. > :06:34.Nothing is going to happen in Europe now until a new Prime Minister is
:06:35. > :06:40.elected. Whoever he or she may be. That may be the case but do you
:06:41. > :06:44.accept you are set on a course now where the UK is going to leave the
:06:45. > :06:51.European Union? And that card change? I accept the people of the
:06:52. > :06:58.UK have voted, they voted the way they have. That is democracy. I
:06:59. > :07:03.think you have two move on. The referendum is over, there's no
:07:04. > :07:09.reason to refight the referendum. The people have spoken. There are
:07:10. > :07:13.two things have to happen now, London is going to engage and put
:07:14. > :07:21.together a team over the summer to engage with Europe when Article 50
:07:22. > :07:26.is triggered. Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast will probably be standing in
:07:27. > :07:33.the sidelines on that, not part of the negotiating team, and the other
:07:34. > :07:36.negotiation that has two J place is between Belfast and London because
:07:37. > :07:53.we have a mighty big budget shortfall to make up. -- that has to
:07:54. > :08:00.take place. Time for cool heads, he is theirs. You have to accept the
:08:01. > :08:09.reality. It is not a done deal. It is. The referendum, technically, has
:08:10. > :08:15.no legal standing. Politically, it does, I accept that. Even those
:08:16. > :08:19.people who were for Remain, have accepted that the referendum cannot
:08:20. > :08:26.be called again. They might not like it but there isn't anything they can
:08:27. > :08:30.do about it. I am asking people not to roll over. Nicola Sturgeon, I
:08:31. > :08:36.spoke to her yesterday, she is out there fighting the corner for
:08:37. > :08:44.Scotland. What I want... We have to wait to see what Scotland does? Will
:08:45. > :08:49.you let me finish? We have a space and the space we have now for the
:08:50. > :08:52.kind of representation we need to make in Brussels for the particular
:08:53. > :08:59.circumstances of Ireland to be taken into account. What is the solution,
:09:00. > :09:04.then? Exactly what I am saying. You say you have to talk about it but
:09:05. > :09:09.what is the ultimate solution? Just like the Good Friday Agreement, it
:09:10. > :09:13.identifies the particular circumstances of the North means we
:09:14. > :09:17.should have rights that are in addition to the Convention rights,
:09:18. > :09:23.the European Convention on human rights, we also have a situation in
:09:24. > :09:26.Brussels and Europe that it is identifying the particular
:09:27. > :09:32.circumstances of Ireland. We cannot have a situation where we have a
:09:33. > :09:37.land border as it is called where we have got partition. Partition has
:09:38. > :09:44.caused us Brexit and we need a conversation here. There are
:09:45. > :09:51.farmers, S MGs, 3.5 million is going to be lost. -- SMEs.
:09:52. > :09:55.There's a lot of tea sympathy - but not much more than that
:09:56. > :10:04.The French president and Spanish Prime Minister have said it is not
:10:05. > :10:14.up for discussion. It is clear, there will be a veto. Do not roll
:10:15. > :10:17.over! We have is 240 M E P 's who voted in the parliament this week
:10:18. > :10:23.for the peace process and for the North and for Scotland, for the
:10:24. > :10:27.remain vote to be accepted. You said you have to move on. The reality is
:10:28. > :10:31.that for some people in Northern Ireland and for a lot of people in
:10:32. > :10:37.Scotland, they will not roll over and they are not prepared to discuss
:10:38. > :10:40.moving on. The reality of what we saw in the European Parliament this
:10:41. > :10:47.week was nationalists from Scotland, Republicans from Northern Ireland,
:10:48. > :10:52.both UK MEPs grandstanding on the floor. What we then got was this
:10:53. > :10:57.bringing them back to reality with a bump where we actually had
:10:58. > :11:03.Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the commission, saying we will
:11:04. > :11:07.only negotiate with the UK. Donald Tusk refused to meet Nicola Sturgeon
:11:08. > :11:14.when she went there. She went back to say I was heartened by my visit,
:11:15. > :11:18.lots of people met me. What the reality is, the reprimand and has
:11:19. > :11:27.been, the people have given their verdict. That cannot be rewritten.
:11:28. > :11:32.-- the referendum has been. We need to come together and negotiate a
:11:33. > :11:38.clear path forward and look to the future. In the meantime, let us not
:11:39. > :11:43.get into this doomsday scenario. We are still members of the European
:11:44. > :11:47.Union. We still pay into the European Union, we still draw down
:11:48. > :11:51.money from the European Union and that will continue until we
:11:52. > :11:57.negotiate the terms of our exit from the European Union.
:11:58. > :12:03.But that what Martina Anderson is saying. She and Nicola Sturgeon say
:12:04. > :12:07.they can get better deals for Northern Ireland and Scotland. And
:12:08. > :12:10.it begins at a UK level. I had my party leader, the First Minister of
:12:11. > :12:16.Northern Ireland, will be working very hard to ensure that Northern
:12:17. > :12:19.Ireland's voices heard. That the particular circumstances of Northern
:12:20. > :12:22.Ireland are heard and we will be working with other party leaders and
:12:23. > :12:26.other people within the parliament to make sure that those issues come
:12:27. > :12:34.together, that they are actually on the table and they are out there for
:12:35. > :12:36.people to discuss. What is your assessment, Jim Nicholson? Your
:12:37. > :12:39.party leader had some very interesting things to say in the
:12:40. > :12:44.Irish News on Monday when he spoke about some potentially dangerous
:12:45. > :12:48.aspect of this for Northern Ireland. There are some nationals to have
:12:49. > :12:54.bought into the existing arrangement under the terms of the Good Friday
:12:55. > :12:57.Agreement, where their desires were underscored by that deal, by the
:12:58. > :13:03.relationship between Dublin and London, by the country being in the
:13:04. > :13:11.EU and that is now all discussion in this new Brexit scenario. Other were
:13:12. > :13:13.you? I think there is a danger of that, not just for Northern Ireland
:13:14. > :13:17.but for the whole United Kingdom. The genie is out of the bottle and
:13:18. > :13:21.it will be very difficult to get back in again, as far as some these
:13:22. > :13:26.things are concerned. Anyone who wanted to know, I certainly was
:13:27. > :13:32.worried about that and very fearful... In actual fact, I would
:13:33. > :13:36.want to say that what I was fearful of happening happened a lot quicker
:13:37. > :13:42.than even I anticipated. The truth is, and everyone was saying that I
:13:43. > :13:47.spoke to in the European Parliament from the UK, we are a mess. The
:13:48. > :13:54.situation from Labour and Conservative Right now is not good.
:13:55. > :13:56.They are all falling down. What I'm saying is that we have today do with
:13:57. > :14:00.the reality here in Northern Ireland. We will be the hardest hit
:14:01. > :14:04.region of the United Kingdom in this and we have got to get in there to
:14:05. > :14:08.defend our region. I have the same very straightforward, I have
:14:09. > :14:11.listened to what Diane said but I have seen very little coming out on
:14:12. > :14:18.the Northern Ireland executive at this moment in time. The two MEPs,
:14:19. > :14:21.both represent the Samak executive party, I have seen nothing from them
:14:22. > :14:26.at all. There is nothing in Northern Ireland that has been put in place
:14:27. > :14:33.to deal with this. -- executive party. We have to be that together
:14:34. > :14:39.and try to pull back in September. We go back in September and we hope
:14:40. > :14:43.then to get involved in negotiations... Hang on. I want to
:14:44. > :14:46.bring Martina N. Jim Nicholson makes a very good point Roddy said it is
:14:47. > :14:52.difficult for Sinn Fein and the DUP to speak as one on this issue. I was
:14:53. > :14:57.wondering if you could shed more light on Sinn Fein being in this
:14:58. > :15:02.unity or anything with the Alliance party as well to see if there is
:15:03. > :15:05.some kind of common ground to try to influence the gauche Asians as they
:15:06. > :15:15.get underway? Is that the case? It is easier for you to speak to them.
:15:16. > :15:19.-- negotiations. All others, collectively, are being inundated by
:15:20. > :15:24.the public. By people out there, Civic Society, who are anxious, who
:15:25. > :15:29.are worried and you're concerned. I have had numerous e-mail sent to me
:15:30. > :15:33.and I'm sure everyone else has, from people who are not Sinn Fein voters
:15:34. > :15:38.who are asking me, appealing to me for us to work together and to do
:15:39. > :15:42.more. I think the common ground, as you have outlined from the rest of
:15:43. > :15:48.the political parties, is there. It has not been manufactured. It starts
:15:49. > :15:53.to look like, to people in the Leave camp, that you were suggesting the
:15:54. > :15:58.people voting in Northern Ireland voting remain one more valuable than
:15:59. > :16:05.those voting otherwise. You think that, over here, we should have a
:16:06. > :16:10.different result to what the UK result was. That is not a good
:16:11. > :16:15.democracy, is it? Come on. I knew in any way surprised that I would have
:16:16. > :16:21.that position? Of course I believe that the people here in Ireland and
:16:22. > :16:24.the people in the north of Ireland... That they are democratic
:16:25. > :16:31.mandate should be respected. March, it is not just in monetary terms.
:16:32. > :16:35.Let me finish. There are ?3.5 billion of dedicated fund but many
:16:36. > :16:49.are. I am looking at the University of Ulster, the Queen's University,
:16:50. > :16:52.SMEs and all those opportunities are going to disappear... I want to get
:16:53. > :16:56.Diane in your. Do you know what we're like in the European Union
:16:57. > :17:02.right now? What's? We are the ugly ducklings. No one wants to speak to
:17:03. > :17:10.us. She can speak for herself on that one. Look, let's just all
:17:11. > :17:15.settle down. I am not a pessimistic unionist. The union is safe because
:17:16. > :17:22.people in Northern Ireland want to be long to the United Kingdom. Every
:17:23. > :17:26.opinion poll points to fact that more people are set on the
:17:27. > :17:33.constitutional position of Northern Ireland... Than ever before. Let's
:17:34. > :17:42.just not wine ourselves up with pessimistic unionism that we have
:17:43. > :17:47.heard. -- align ourselves up. Look at Nicola Sturgeon. I did not get
:17:48. > :17:53.pessimism from that. You have to face up to the promises you and your
:17:54. > :17:58.party have made. I would like to be heard. Make your point. I do think
:17:59. > :18:01.that Nicola Sturgeon has called one of the biggest bluffs that she could
:18:02. > :18:10.ever have called. She has to remember that one point five million
:18:11. > :18:17.people voted to remain as part of the United Kingdom just two years
:18:18. > :18:22.ago. That is a very important factor to consider. We will continue to be
:18:23. > :18:25.members of the European Union. We will continue to negotiate our exit
:18:26. > :18:29.from that and then they will be like every other democratic country in
:18:30. > :18:33.the world. We will take control of our own affairs and trade and
:18:34. > :18:37.cooperate with other nations. Well, we will see that does indeed happen.
:18:38. > :18:48.I did not expect a great meeting of minds and indeed there was no such
:18:49. > :18:54.tremendous union. It is quite interesting that people tend to be
:18:55. > :18:59.speaking for Scotland, but there is no one here tonight speaking for
:19:00. > :19:00.Ireland. Thank you before coming to join us on the programme.
:19:01. > :19:03.From Europe to the drama currently being played out at Westminster.
:19:04. > :19:05.The political rules say the frontrunner rarely winds
:19:06. > :19:08.and that was borne out again as Boris Johnston's lifelong plan
:19:09. > :19:11.to get his hands on the keys to Number 10 foundered this morning,
:19:12. > :19:13.while Jeremy Corbyn's grip on the Labour Party seems to be
:19:14. > :19:17.Joining me now from London are the Daily Mirror's Associate Editor,
:19:18. > :19:19.Kevin Maguire, and Tory Party member and former Mayoral adviser
:19:20. > :19:31.How will he be making sense of the past 24 hours?
:19:32. > :19:35.I think Boris will be really disappointed if not devastated about
:19:36. > :19:39.what has happened. And I think he will take a really close look at
:19:40. > :19:47.what has happened since he left City Hall. Because in May, when he
:19:48. > :19:50.decided to leave after two terms, he left as a politician who was well
:19:51. > :19:54.respected and someone who had become almost a global statesman in his
:19:55. > :20:08.role as the Mayo of London. Within two months, he has became a very
:20:09. > :20:12.polarising politician -- mayor. He has also pulled out of the race to
:20:13. > :20:17.be the leader of the Conservative Party because he believes he can't
:20:18. > :20:20.trust them to back him as leader. Would you have backed him if he
:20:21. > :20:26.stood? I probably would have. I did not see eye to eye with Boris during
:20:27. > :20:31.the Leave campaign which he ran. I did not feel comfortable about the
:20:32. > :20:37.rhetoric. I have actually been sent to Brussels by Boris to deal with
:20:38. > :20:42.the 300 million euros fine on air quality that we were handed. I dealt
:20:43. > :20:46.with the bureaucracy and the challenges that Europe has in terms
:20:47. > :20:50.of dealing with issues and I saw the frustration of seeing what
:20:51. > :20:54.bureaucrats and politicians, the distance they have from the issues
:20:55. > :20:57.and the people in nations. But I still feel that we should have shown
:20:58. > :21:03.leadership in Europe. We should have had a part to play. However, that is
:21:04. > :21:06.the past and we did not see eye to eye on that. When it comes to being
:21:07. > :21:09.a leader and using his political capital for good and bringing teams
:21:10. > :21:15.together, and people together, and being positive and taking us to
:21:16. > :21:17.difficult times, I believe he is exceptional. Unfortunately, he will
:21:18. > :21:19.not be able to display that come at this point, as Prime Minister.
:21:20. > :21:21.Was he betrayed by Michael Gove in an astonishing act
:21:22. > :21:41.Absolutely astonishing. This is a very juicy episode of gamer thrones.
:21:42. > :21:45.Political convulsions from the revolution -- Game of Thrones. I
:21:46. > :21:49.think I was an act of treachery. It seems to be quite clear from Michael
:21:50. > :21:52.Gove, who decided he wanted to go for the leadership insult. At the
:21:53. > :22:03.same time, there were question marks over Boris Johnson' ability to get
:22:04. > :22:06.people on his side and it is very well-known as being a street act,
:22:07. > :22:11.going to entertain people sitting in City Hall, very much different from
:22:12. > :22:16.becoming Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, which is what this
:22:17. > :22:22.is all about. It is a bit of both, really. Absolutely astonishing
:22:23. > :22:27.politics and that treachery and the charge sheet against Boris Johnson.
:22:28. > :22:30.What do you think the chances are for Michael Gove? I just looked at
:22:31. > :22:34.an interview that he said last week that he did not want to be Prime
:22:35. > :22:37.Minister and he was not equipped to be primers. Surely that will haunt
:22:38. > :22:43.him throughout his entire career and, if he was successful,
:22:44. > :22:46.throughout his time at number ten. Absolutely. He's launching his
:22:47. > :22:50.campaign tomorrow and you will be asked again and again about that.
:22:51. > :22:54.What is your lying has he changed his mind? What has brought round?
:22:55. > :22:59.Keyword very closely with Boris Johnson during that referendum
:23:00. > :23:05.campaign and it was going to be his campaign chief. Then he decided he
:23:06. > :23:10.was going to go for it himself. He broke up with that use this morning
:23:11. > :23:16.and Boris Johnson bottled it. He said he did not want to risk the
:23:17. > :23:20.humiliation of getting to the final two. It will be difficult for
:23:21. > :23:25.Michael Gove because of that. Teresa May, the Home Secretary, has also
:23:26. > :23:30.emerged as a very strong, clear frontrunner. Boris Johnson was a
:23:31. > :23:35.frontrunner. He tripped. Maybe she will do too. It will be very hard
:23:36. > :23:40.for Michael Gove Dell with all those questions around him, the role of
:23:41. > :23:44.his wife being asked as well with her being accused of playing the
:23:45. > :23:57.honourable lady best role. It is just astonishing. Backtrack Lady
:23:58. > :24:02.Macbeth. To pick up on that point, do you think anyone can stop to read
:24:03. > :24:06.on a? There is a long way to go. At least there are decisive move is
:24:07. > :24:10.going on. We may not all agree with them but will get the Labour Party
:24:11. > :24:12.right now and the paralysis and back of decision-making, the poor
:24:13. > :24:17.leadership, the absolute chaos that involves that. I know Kevin has said
:24:18. > :24:23.it is a Game of Thrones look to the Conservative side but it is like
:24:24. > :24:27.Carry On Labour on the other side. I think people will look for a good,
:24:28. > :24:31.capable, sold leader who can deliver as Prime Minister of this country,
:24:32. > :24:36.which is what is required in this time of political challenge and
:24:37. > :24:40.uncertainty. People want authentic people, politicians, they can trust
:24:41. > :24:44.them. If that becomes brutal in terms of finding the right person,
:24:45. > :24:48.hopefully we'll find someone who is tough enough and can bring those
:24:49. > :24:53.qualities to the forefront of the Conservative campaign. At the
:24:54. > :24:57.moment, Labour should be capitalising on the Tories but they
:24:58. > :25:01.are having a crisis of their own. Very much so. They do not have a
:25:02. > :25:06.vacancy but they are trying to create a vacancy. Jeremy Corbyn is
:25:07. > :25:13.hanging on for grim life, because he has suffered from all cultural
:25:14. > :25:20.resignation from his own party and from Westminster. There are already
:25:21. > :25:24.talks of people from his own party running against him, and there isn't
:25:25. > :25:28.a vacancy to run for. If he does not resign and throw in the towel, I am
:25:29. > :25:33.told that some members of his family even believe it should -- believed
:25:34. > :25:40.he should, some of his closest allies believe he should. He wants
:25:41. > :25:44.to defend his latest mandate, that was 60% of the Labour Party if
:25:45. > :25:47.you're a member. There have been almost 60,000 people joining the
:25:48. > :25:53.Labour Party recently, some to join in supporting him and some to try to
:25:54. > :25:59.oust him. It is entirely possible that he could be re-elected, but he
:26:00. > :26:04.would not have the confidence of his MPs. And of his former Shadow
:26:05. > :26:09.Cabinet members. Labour is an Internet rebel position right now.
:26:10. > :26:13.Both major parties are just reeling from the consequences of that trip
:26:14. > :26:20.the light referendum. -- in a terrible position. I suppose that's
:26:21. > :26:23.the outcome you think the Tories would like to see, for Jeremy Corbyn
:26:24. > :26:27.to hang in there because that would give them the eligible advantage. It
:26:28. > :26:30.could be seen that way but the people of the country will not get
:26:31. > :26:36.that way. I believe everyone is desperate to actually see some
:26:37. > :26:41.certainty, some leadership from both little parties. I think it is good
:26:42. > :26:43.that the Conservatives have set an aggressive timescale in terms of
:26:44. > :26:48.getting a new Prime Minister in place by early September. The Labour
:26:49. > :26:52.Party does need to sort itself out, it does need to find that
:26:53. > :26:55.leadership, that a party can rally around and India credible
:26:56. > :27:01.opposition. Identikit works for anybody. It does not work or two
:27:02. > :27:04.bodies of the people. Good to talk to you both. Thank you.
:27:05. > :27:06.Now, it's our final programme of the series so,
:27:07. > :27:08.in keeping with tradition, we have The View's fourth
:27:09. > :27:15.Five of our regular team of commentators were locked
:27:16. > :27:18.in a room with me and told to wrack their brains and come up
:27:19. > :27:20.with worthy winners in five hotly-contested categories.
:27:21. > :27:39.Welcome to the The View awards 2016. Best minister. I know he has won
:27:40. > :27:42.twice before and I think it should be Simon Hamilton 60 because he
:27:43. > :27:51.didn't use the health portfolio to make political points. Totally
:27:52. > :27:58.disagree. Who should it be? Michelle O'Neill who has taken the politics
:27:59. > :28:08.out of health because her first move in office was to overturn gay blood
:28:09. > :28:16.donations. I think it would be an accomplishment. Clare Sugden's
:28:17. > :28:22.decision to be a minister. Pure gumption. That would be fine if
:28:23. > :28:28.their category was best decision to be a minister but it is best
:28:29. > :28:33.minister. She has performed at least as adequately as every other
:28:34. > :28:40.minister. I am coming round to Rick's point of view that Arlene has
:28:41. > :28:48.performed well. That might be one of the most tricky ones. Best use of
:28:49. > :28:52.social media. We should scrap these awards because they are all pretty
:28:53. > :28:59.terrible at it. Who stands out for you? I give Naomi Long credit
:29:00. > :29:06.because she engages ferociously with people. I had a chance to speak
:29:07. > :29:16.about Naomi Long about her use of social media. Martin McGuinness uses
:29:17. > :29:22.it to tweet about good news. I think shown enormous courage on social
:29:23. > :29:33.media on abortion and same-sex marriage. Most entertaining
:29:34. > :29:44.politician. I would like to nominate Emma Pengelly, if that is her name.
:29:45. > :29:51.She is entertaining. It is hard to surpass Jim Allister. He is so
:29:52. > :29:55.funny, he is able to get all that negativity across almost nicely. He
:29:56. > :30:06.is genuinely entertaining in a sort of Bob Monkhouse kind of way. Ups
:30:07. > :30:18.and downs on the road he has experience. I would like to nominate
:30:19. > :30:23.Barry McElduff. He said as I entered public life I shouldn't try to
:30:24. > :30:28.impress anyone. I asked him why and he said it's because I wouldn't. It
:30:29. > :30:48.is that kind of straight talking that you love. Self awareness. So we
:30:49. > :31:05.are on to best newcomer. Claire Bailey,. Claire Hanna. I agree. She
:31:06. > :31:08.has come to the fore recently. Two people I think who are worth
:31:09. > :31:17.watching in the sense I think they could make a difference to how
:31:18. > :31:27.Unionism thinks. Final category is best politician. John McCallister.
:31:28. > :31:31.If you are talking about the job done by one person who has made the
:31:32. > :31:38.most difference, that is the opposition bill. Any other name is
:31:39. > :31:45.deserving of honourable mention? , Arlene. She had quite a heavy job
:31:46. > :31:54.following on from Peter Robinson. Also Megan Ferran from Sinn Fein.
:31:55. > :31:57.That is it. We've managed to wade away through it and arrive at some
:31:58. > :32:00.interesting decisions and thank you all very much indeed. The UN a
:32:01. > :32:15.year's time. -- see you in. With me now are two of the judges
:32:16. > :32:20.you just saw in our film, On behalf of everybody who was there
:32:21. > :32:35.that day. We will talk quickly about that
:32:36. > :32:43.discussion and then we will open the envelope. It was the one we have the
:32:44. > :32:46.most long discussion about. Most candidates ended up being female. It
:32:47. > :32:50.took us a long time to get agreement. I think we had to leave
:32:51. > :32:54.it and come back to it. I thought we would be there for most of the day.
:32:55. > :33:00.Also because ministers have not done very much this year because of the
:33:01. > :33:04.election and resignations. Open the envelope. The winner is...
:33:05. > :33:27.That was quite a heated discussion to, wasn't it? We thought some
:33:28. > :33:37.people should stop using social media. We just don't really see what
:33:38. > :33:40.the advantage is. We will see if we even have this category next year.
:33:41. > :33:46.There were suggestions we should have worst use of social media. The
:33:47. > :33:50.clue was in the title. It is not just there to retweet things you
:33:51. > :33:56.have been told. We want to get a sense of personality and who should
:33:57. > :33:58.not respond to random people. I think we all agree. Who one? The
:33:59. > :34:00.winner is... For the second year in a row. Well
:34:01. > :34:21.done. This is an interesting one. Depends
:34:22. > :34:26.what you mean about entertaining. If I remember rightly last you you
:34:27. > :34:32.refuse to vote on this. It was for them inadvertently entertaining
:34:33. > :34:45.politician. Tongue in cheek on your part. Let's open the envelope. We
:34:46. > :34:53.couldn't go past him, Jim analyst. -- Jim Allister. This year there is
:34:54. > :34:58.real opposition so I think it is time, maybe past. There was
:34:59. > :35:04.agreement his time in the limelight may be over. I'm sure the award
:35:05. > :35:12.means even more to the planet might have under different circumstances.
:35:13. > :35:28.Glastir we scrapped this category but we brought it back this year. --
:35:29. > :35:35.last year. I was sadly unable to vote for a new, in his 70s. All will
:35:36. > :35:38.be revealed. I think the difficulty was newcomer, we were talking about
:35:39. > :35:42.people who had just been given a mandate because it seemed to soon to
:35:43. > :35:48.talk about if they had made any impact. And the winner is...
:35:49. > :36:04.Well done to her, she certainly been busy over the last few months. Last
:36:05. > :36:07.but a not least, best politician. Mike Nesbitt won last year that his
:36:08. > :36:14.name did not feature at all in our discussions. There was quite a lot
:36:15. > :36:17.of discussion and I suppose overlap over this and best minister that in
:36:18. > :36:25.the end I think it was all to do with legacy. That gives us a big
:36:26. > :36:34.clue. And the winner is... John McCallister. It was just about
:36:35. > :36:39.unanimous, wasn't it? Before we entered the madness of this week we
:36:40. > :36:44.were all talking about an era of opposition in Stormont and that is
:36:45. > :36:47.his legacy. A little consolation to him that he wins this award and gets
:36:48. > :36:51.a little certificate for his study because it will not be hanging in
:36:52. > :37:04.the Stormont office because he no longer has one. At the moment, very
:37:05. > :37:11.true. Well done, John. What a week. You could not make it up. I think
:37:12. > :37:16.the former governor of the Bank of England said to calm down and
:37:17. > :37:19.remember in 5-10 years we will be roughly back politically and
:37:20. > :37:22.economic lead to where we are now. I thought what was interesting is that
:37:23. > :37:27.he forgot about Scotland and the chance of the UK picking up. The
:37:28. > :37:31.English have blanked the rest of the country. That is what will decide
:37:32. > :37:35.whether we are into... What will happen over the next ten years and
:37:36. > :37:39.whether Scotland stays all go. I think it was interesting that our
:37:40. > :37:42.MEPs are very divided. There is no agreement about what has happened,
:37:43. > :37:46.what will happen in the short term and what is best in the long-term. I
:37:47. > :37:51.think this is a time where we actually need some unity. We are in
:37:52. > :37:54.the position we're in, we cannot be in denial. Brexit has been a large
:37:55. > :38:00.movement in small thinking and we have two address it. If we can agree
:38:01. > :38:07.a way forward, we can get special treatment for another night --
:38:08. > :38:16.Northern Ireland. We need to address it. Next leader of the Conservative
:38:17. > :38:19.Party. Theresa May. Next leader of the Labour Party. Tom Watson. Angela
:38:20. > :38:21.Eagle. That's it from The View for this
:38:22. > :38:25.series, but what a week to end. Congratulations to all our awards
:38:26. > :38:27.winners and thanks to all our The View will be back to do it
:38:28. > :38:32.all again in September but do join me for Sunday Politics at 11.35
:38:33. > :38:35.here on BBC One.