:01:55. > :01:59.On The View tonight: Realignment or revolution - is unionism facing a
:01:59. > :02:02.seismic shift? And will the Ulster Unionists
:02:02. > :02:07.thrive in the new political order or join the long list of defunct,
:02:07. > :02:12.historical parties? We'll hear from Basil McCrea, the MLA who's proving
:02:12. > :02:15.such a thorn in his leader's side. Also: The peace walls should come
:02:15. > :02:19.down in ten years, according to a draft report on community relations,
:02:19. > :02:22.but just how realistic a goal is that?
:02:22. > :02:26.And back in the hotseat - the professors with their views on
:02:26. > :02:36.realignments and referenda. And you can, of course, follow the
:02:36. > :02:37.
:02:37. > :02:42.Basil McCrea's date with an Ulster Unionist disciplinary committee may
:02:42. > :02:45.have been postponed, but the relationship still looks doomed.
:02:45. > :02:48.The Lagan Valley MLA's criticism of the party's flags policy has
:02:48. > :02:52.already cost him the whip, and the estrangement looks likely to lead
:02:53. > :02:57.to divorce. Then there's his close colleague, John McCallister, who
:02:57. > :03:02.continues to publicly question the party's direction. So if the two of
:03:02. > :03:05.them go, where will they go? Is it time for a new moderate, pluralist
:03:05. > :03:15.party? Our political correspondent, Gareth Gordon, reports on the
:03:15. > :03:27.
:03:27. > :03:33.dilemmas facing disaffected Ulster In 1985, opposition to the angler-
:03:33. > :03:40.Irish agreement saw unionists unite. But it did not last. More than a
:03:40. > :03:46.quarter of a century later, they were brought together again,, only
:03:46. > :03:51.now, the DUP is the biggest party. What about those austere unionists
:03:51. > :03:56.who do not want closer links with the DUP? Bows on a Cray's name has
:03:56. > :04:01.already been mentioned with the Alliance Party. But is there
:04:01. > :04:10.another way? Is it time to talk about forming a more liberal,
:04:10. > :04:16.Unionist Party? David left the party after he was selected as an
:04:16. > :04:21.Assembly candidate. I want to see Northern Ireland prosper. If being
:04:21. > :04:29.part of a new party can achieve that, then yes, I would consider
:04:29. > :04:36.that. It would be a very moderate Unionist Party, inclusive, where
:04:37. > :04:44.all opinions are acceptable. It is not purely unionism with a
:04:44. > :04:50.religious bias. Everybody, it does particularly cool are Unionists,
:04:50. > :04:55.would be welcome, irrespective of their class, creed, or whether they
:04:55. > :05:05.do have a creed. But what about the man who was stripped of the deputy
:05:05. > :05:07.
:05:07. > :05:14.leadership? John McCallister chooses his words carefully.
:05:14. > :05:24.parties are in flux. Politics is in a very fluid state at the moment.
:05:24. > :05:25.
:05:25. > :05:33.We have no idea where things are going. He in 1974, the Unionist
:05:33. > :05:39.Party was formed. Another picture he with my father in the late
:05:39. > :05:45.Fifties. This for no -- former Ulster Unionist is one of the few
:05:45. > :05:51.survivors. He believes his party is once more facing dangerous times.
:05:51. > :05:57.What we need in Northern Ireland is to clear perspectives. Over the
:05:57. > :06:02.next coming days, either my commencement and basil McRae can
:06:02. > :06:06.find a way to work together, for the good of the party, and for more
:06:06. > :06:13.importantly, for the good of Northern Ireland, they would be
:06:13. > :06:23.better to go their separate ways. That would mean... It seems a slow
:06:23. > :06:28.
:06:28. > :06:35.death. I'd go they work together, then basil should go his own way
:06:35. > :06:39.and perhaps have a zone that a realignment. But I have learnt from
:06:39. > :06:45.my time that to try and change by forming a separate party doesn't
:06:45. > :06:48.always work because people will not always follow. The Ulster
:06:48. > :06:56.Unionist's former director of communications believes realignment
:06:56. > :07:03.has already begun. There is now no longer a need for a separate Ulster
:07:03. > :07:11.Unionist Party. And DUP. They will come together, but it will be a
:07:12. > :07:21.merger. That leaves a very large sex stir off small union has since.
:07:22. > :07:25.
:07:25. > :07:31.-- sector. I'd do a litter of civic leading. People are disengaging
:07:31. > :07:35.from the Assembly. But this senior Ulster Unionist says the party is
:07:35. > :07:42.still relevant and plays down the notion that it is lurching closer
:07:42. > :07:50.to the DUP. I have been in Unionist politics for a long time. But I do
:07:50. > :07:58.firmly believe that mainstream Unionist opinion is still very much
:07:58. > :08:03.concentrated on how old the Ulster Unionists are represented.
:08:03. > :08:07.Nevertheless, important as Northern Ireland moves to the future.
:08:07. > :08:14.think Unionism has not lacked his new parties. They have come and
:08:14. > :08:24.gone, many without making much of an impact. Does it need a new one
:08:24. > :08:24.
:08:24. > :08:30.now? Ali in foster says not. What I do see happening other people are
:08:30. > :08:34.moving towards the DUP because they see a strong voice and leader in
:08:34. > :08:40.Peter Robinson. People want to talk to us about moving over to the DUP.
:08:40. > :08:42.Whatever direction these men take next, it is unlikely to lead to the
:08:42. > :08:51.DUP. Gareth Gordon reporting. And the
:08:51. > :08:54.Ulster Unionist, MLA Basil McCrea, joins me now. You will men to face
:08:54. > :09:04.a disciplinary hearing tomorrow afternoon. That has been postponed.
:09:04. > :09:09.What is going on? I asked for detail on the internal report, and
:09:09. > :09:13.there are difficulties in getting that. Were you disappointed? I am
:09:13. > :09:21.disappointed I could not get things sorted out tomorrow. I am looking
:09:22. > :09:31.forward to the opportunity to explain things. You have put your
:09:32. > :09:34.
:09:34. > :09:40.name to a statement. But then what? That is part of the reason why I
:09:40. > :09:45.want to talk to you. I am confident about the case I have, and I have
:09:45. > :09:52.taken to -- the trouble to explain it to my local association. But we
:09:52. > :09:57.need to sort something out. Can we get some sort of coherent message
:09:57. > :10:05.we're all happy with? Unless you resolve these issues, it will not
:10:05. > :10:12.work with the electorate. report was about this debate that
:10:13. > :10:17.seems to be happening. About realignment. You also say, perhaps
:10:17. > :10:26.the time has come for realignment. Political party should
:10:26. > :10:36.differentiate themselves or merge. Are you writing your own departure?
:10:36. > :10:42.No, what I am saying is that way you have to brought a church, party
:10:43. > :10:48.management is difficult. What you get his disengagement. That leads
:10:48. > :10:53.to low participation in the polls. What we have to do is get politics
:10:53. > :10:59.that mean something to the people. You need to stand for something.
:10:59. > :11:02.They should not be mixed messages. In fairness to everybody, I have
:11:02. > :11:06.respect for the party and colleagues, we need to have a
:11:06. > :11:16.discussion about what is the right way forward. A lot of people are
:11:16. > :11:25.confused as to why you and my and his men are not bosom buddies. What
:11:25. > :11:33.is this discipline rehearing? is a question for Michael. I am
:11:33. > :11:38.confident I spoke one party policy, I tried my best to put forward the
:11:38. > :11:42.policies I saw. But he is the lead in he does not see it that way.
:11:42. > :11:52.have been on the record to say he is right to take the action he has
:11:52. > :11:59.done. I am quite keen to do that because I think I have a good case.
:11:59. > :12:03.Are you engaging in it shadow- boxing? You could confirm, what
:12:03. > :12:08.everybody believed to be the case - you intend to leave the Ulster
:12:08. > :12:11.Unionist party anyway. That is not the case. I have had plenty of
:12:11. > :12:16.opportunities. People have been talking about me going to every
:12:16. > :12:22.party you can imagine. Whenever we had a series of bad elections, at
:12:22. > :12:26.different people left. And I stayed because I believe in the Belfast
:12:26. > :12:31.Agreement and call Ulster Unionist values. They did do a lot of good
:12:31. > :12:34.work in the past, and I believe that is what is required now.
:12:34. > :12:40.if the party is not moving in the direction you think it is, then the
:12:40. > :12:48.party has to go. It may come to that. I may not even have the
:12:48. > :12:52.choice. The issue comes to this - for the good of the party in
:12:53. > :12:58.Northern Ireland, we need to have a discussion about what we believe in
:12:58. > :13:04.because I joined a party that was behind the Belfast Agreement, a
:13:04. > :13:08.shared future. All these issues we have unleashed we are not clever in
:13:08. > :13:13.reopening them. I don't want us to make the same mistake twice.
:13:13. > :13:17.you are a member of the Democratic Party, and you have been accused of
:13:17. > :13:24.lacking self discipline. You have got to sign up to the notion of
:13:24. > :13:34.corporate responsibility. If you can't do that, there is nobody to
:13:34. > :13:39.blame. I can respect that position. I am quite happy, with though it is
:13:39. > :13:45.not the appropriate place to do it, to defend my actions. That will
:13:45. > :13:49.come out. I have spoken to quite a number of people in the past few
:13:49. > :13:55.days. It was interesting to hear what some people within your party
:13:55. > :14:01.and Unionism had to save. Some of them said Basil McCrae wants to be
:14:01. > :14:11.thrown out. Is that true? No. I am aware different people have
:14:11. > :14:12.
:14:12. > :14:15.different opinions of me. But I can tell you that the debate and having
:14:15. > :14:20.now is I want to do the best thing the people of Northern Ireland, the
:14:20. > :14:30.best thing for the party, the best way forward, I want to engage an
:14:30. > :14:32.
:14:32. > :14:38.unwilling to talk. Is this a scorched earth policy? No, I have
:14:38. > :14:43.no aspirations to leave the Ulster Unionist Party. It may be a
:14:43. > :14:51.disappointment. I did, and I had a chance, and I was pleased with what
:14:51. > :15:01.I got, but now, the influence you play is on policy. I do want to
:15:01. > :15:03.
:15:03. > :15:07.play a will and that, and I do have Let's talk about the future. John
:15:07. > :15:15.McCallister. He seems uncomfortable in the party. A lot of people have
:15:15. > :15:20.asked questions about whether or not he will stay. We heard from the
:15:20. > :15:26.other former Ulster unionist MLA saying if a new party is to be
:15:26. > :15:29.formed, I'm up for it. I think the time has come. Is it your end game,
:15:29. > :15:33.the establishment of a more Liberal Party featuring those two
:15:33. > :15:39.individuals and maybe others? is no end game of in the sense of
:15:39. > :15:44.is there a party coming out? There is an aspiration that John and I,
:15:44. > :15:47.in fairness David, make no secret about. We are pro-union, shared
:15:47. > :15:51.future unionists. We want to sell the benefit of the union to
:15:51. > :15:54.everybody, no matter what their background. Is we have a particular
:15:54. > :15:58.approach. We feel comfortable in that. We think that is the
:15:58. > :16:03.principles that the party is founded upon. We want to take that
:16:03. > :16:07.argument to the party and the electorate at wide. Maybe not as a
:16:07. > :16:12.member of the Ulster Unionist Party? If there is a difference of
:16:13. > :16:15.opinion. We had Fred going to the DUP. We have other people that seem
:16:15. > :16:19.more comfortable about their relationship with the DUP. I have
:16:19. > :16:26.to tell you, you heard Arlene talking on your package there, it
:16:26. > :16:29.is getting a little bit too close. As Dermot Nesbitt said we need two
:16:29. > :16:33.different parties, representing different things to represent the
:16:34. > :16:37.people of Northern Ireland. Will you remain part of the party?
:16:37. > :16:40.depends on the party. I believe this is the right way. I hope that
:16:40. > :16:44.will be well-received. We will see what happens next. Thank you for
:16:44. > :16:48.joining us tonight. Now, peace walls here should come down within
:16:48. > :16:52.the next 10 years. That is one of the key find ntion a recent draft
:16:52. > :16:57.report on community relations which has been leaked to the BBC. There
:16:57. > :17:01.are 59 walls, gates or other physical barriers in Belfast,
:17:01. > :17:06.Londonderry and Craigavon. Nine of those have gone up since the Good
:17:06. > :17:12.Friday Agreement was signed almost 15 years ago. Here is the view of
:17:12. > :17:16.one anti-sectarianism group. awful lot of work will have to be
:17:16. > :17:20.done. That is one of the difficulties, that work. The work
:17:21. > :17:25.isn't being done in the way that it should be. When we talk about the
:17:25. > :17:29.millions of pounds put into cross community work, where is it going?
:17:29. > :17:32.What is it doing? How is it challenging? That work has to be
:17:32. > :17:37.challenging. People have to be taken out of comfort zones and
:17:37. > :17:40.understand they have to live with others, from both communities. Two
:17:40. > :17:45.peoples here, the British people and the Irish people. We have to
:17:45. > :17:48.come to terms with that. We have to find ways of doing that. Our
:17:48. > :17:54.political leadership over the last lot of years, even though we have
:17:54. > :17:59.had the Assembly, have, I think, failed in that regard. We still see
:17:59. > :18:04.the problems with flags and issues of identity, not only on the
:18:04. > :18:09.streets, in our workplaces. Mark Devenport broke this story today.
:18:09. > :18:12.He is with me now as is Dr Duncan Morrow from the University of
:18:12. > :18:18.Ulster who is also the former Head of the Community Relations Council.
:18:18. > :18:22.Welcome to you both. The draft strategy has been a long time
:18:22. > :18:28.coming. It still hasn't been formally published? We have a
:18:28. > :18:33.target date for bringing down Belfast and other city's peace
:18:33. > :18:39.wants walls. We don't have a date. I have my hands on a draft which
:18:39. > :18:44.dates back to late November. A few days before we had the whole flags
:18:44. > :18:48.scenario playing out in Belfast City Hall. Maybe were in an
:18:48. > :18:53.optimistic mood when they came up with these phrases. Whilst we have
:18:53. > :18:58.a promise it will go to the leaders, we don't have a definite date for
:18:58. > :19:04.this. What would you point out as the big headline recommendations?
:19:04. > :19:11.This date of 2022 is striking for taking down the peace walls. We
:19:11. > :19:15.have had VIPS, riebg like the New York Mayor, saying taking the walls
:19:15. > :19:20.down. Local politicians are aware of the sensitivities of the people
:19:20. > :19:25.who live in these areas. They have committed to this. It may be seemed
:19:25. > :19:29.a long way when they committed to it. It is less than a decade away.
:19:30. > :19:36.If it was adhered to, I suppose nobody will be giving odds on this
:19:36. > :19:40.at this stage, it would mean that the peace wall would come down 53
:19:41. > :19:45.years after it was erected supposedly as a temporary structure.
:19:45. > :19:50.A reaction from the office of the firs minister and Deputy First
:19:50. > :19:53.Minister finding its way into the public domain via a back channel?
:19:53. > :19:57.suppose cheesed off might be the technical term. They are
:19:57. > :20:01.disappointed and it's a work in progress and it is open to change.
:20:01. > :20:06.Whilst the headlines about the peace wall, there is a lot in the
:20:06. > :20:12.document about children and young people. Proposal of a buddy scheme
:20:12. > :20:19.involving nursery school children and anti-sectarian education, talk
:20:19. > :20:23.of art and sports to fight sectarianism. It is 110 page
:20:23. > :20:28.document. I have only been able to give a flavour of it. Duncan, you
:20:28. > :20:30.would like to say something about whether this amounts to the death
:20:30. > :20:33.warrant of the Community Relations Council that organisation that you
:20:33. > :20:38.used to Head up. Its future role under this draft publication
:20:38. > :20:41.doesn't seem to be clear at all need to be clear, I have seen a
:20:41. > :20:45.quick look at this document. Obviously, all organisations have
:20:45. > :20:50.their life span. That is not the issue. The key question is, what
:20:50. > :20:53.would any organisation that succeeds this actually do? What we
:20:53. > :20:57.absolutely don't need is a compliance document, filled with
:20:57. > :21:01.people who are political appointees making decisions which don't back
:21:01. > :21:04.up the real work on the ground and don't do their learning. This is
:21:04. > :21:09.experimental stuff. You need to get people supported and develop from
:21:09. > :21:13.there. CRC is one thing, keeping this work going is another. What
:21:13. > :21:21.about the targets? Are they achievable? Is it possible to have
:21:21. > :21:25.the peace walls down by 2022? nact we are saying isn't. -- fact
:21:25. > :21:28.that we are say it isn't will be something. We have waited for our
:21:28. > :21:31.politicians to come up with the direction we are going in. It
:21:31. > :21:35.should be possible in 10 years. We moved from the ceasefire to the
:21:35. > :21:40.position of having an agreement in less than four years. If they are
:21:40. > :21:43.serious and drive us. It is not about getting walls down, but
:21:43. > :21:50.making people secure so that they know when the walls come down they
:21:50. > :21:53.are safe. We need the work, not just the slogans. There are
:21:53. > :21:57.recommendations about seggree gaited housing and education and
:21:57. > :22:02.other issues which are very difficult. Things like flags,
:22:02. > :22:08.parades and the past, there doesn't seem to be a clear line on those
:22:08. > :22:13.particular issues. They have dogged this debate for decades? To be
:22:13. > :22:18.honest, unless a document deals with community relations tackles
:22:18. > :22:21.flags, parades and cultural issues like language, tackles issues like
:22:21. > :22:24.the past and how we deal with it, we may forget. It anybody who
:22:24. > :22:30.doesn't think this is the priority economic issue needs to have been
:22:30. > :22:33.in Belfast over the last two months. If you are going to get visitors
:22:33. > :22:38.and investors and bright people living here, we need these things
:22:38. > :22:42.sorted. It's a core economic issue. The Executive has said - we won't
:22:42. > :22:46.deal with shared future, we will deal with the economy. You can't
:22:46. > :22:50.deal with the economy unless you deal with the shared future issues.
:22:50. > :22:53.You need to take away the barriers to people living in peace and let
:22:53. > :22:57.people know that their kids will know each other when they come out
:22:57. > :23:01.of school. It's one thing for the politicians, Sinn Fein and the DUP
:23:02. > :23:05.not to be able to apparently, at this stage anyway, agree on these
:23:05. > :23:10.key issues, if they reach agreement those agreements have to be sold to
:23:10. > :23:17.the people on the ground. As we know, we have witnessed in the past
:23:17. > :23:20.seven or eight weeks that, in circumstances -- certain
:23:20. > :23:24.circumstances welcome back difficult? They have paid the price
:23:24. > :23:27.most of the failure to deal with these issues. They are living with
:23:27. > :23:31.the walls. To point there is the wrong way. What is the political
:23:31. > :23:37.direction? What resources are we putting into this? What priority
:23:37. > :23:40.are we giving it? How will we measure success? If we deliver in
:23:40. > :23:44.economy, education and free housing where people can live safely that
:23:44. > :23:47.will be a success for this Executive. This publication has
:23:48. > :23:51.been leaked. There is further discussion needed, not all of the
:23:51. > :23:54.politicians have bought in at the top level or the Alliance Party and
:23:54. > :23:58.the Ulster Unionist absented themselves from the latter stages
:23:58. > :24:01.of the discussion? The Alliance Party and the Ulster Unionist have
:24:01. > :24:08.walked out of the working group they didn't like how it was going.
:24:09. > :24:13.Some of the ideas the Alliance have in replaition -- relation to flags
:24:13. > :24:21.were being rejected by the other parties. They are talking about a
:24:21. > :24:26.body that would set rules about when and where you can fly flags.
:24:26. > :24:33.It is (not agreed) they may release a partial document where they have
:24:33. > :24:36.areas where they can't agree. you very much. Back with us in
:24:36. > :24:41.Commentators' Corner this evening are the professors, Deirdre Heenan
:24:41. > :24:45.and Rick Wilford. Rick, to you first of all on the subject of the
:24:45. > :24:47.Ulster Unionist. You heard what Basil McCrea had to say. What is
:24:47. > :24:52.your assessment of what is happening within the Ulster
:24:52. > :24:57.Unionist Party? That is one of the damaging aspects of this, the
:24:58. > :25:03.perception of the party being divided and at war with itself is
:25:03. > :25:08.toxic politically. This is a party that has been in long term decline.
:25:08. > :25:13.It has lost 150,000 votes at Westminster-level. It's vote in the
:25:13. > :25:18.Assembly is halved. Three leaders in the last eight years. This party
:25:18. > :25:24.that is lacking clear party management. It needs all the
:25:24. > :25:29.talents it can master in order to give it any kind of chance. It is
:25:29. > :25:34.tearing it Seve part. Are we looking at a unionist realignment?
:25:34. > :25:39.I can't see the electoral space for it. The one thing that is
:25:39. > :25:46.guaranteed to get most unionists into the ballot box is a border
:25:46. > :25:51.poll. Which is what David Trimble suggested. He knew it wasn't going
:25:51. > :25:59.to work then, not going to work now. I don't see the electoral space for.
:25:59. > :26:04.It we are a dominant two-party system, the DUP and Sinn Fein have
:26:04. > :26:08.Hoovered up. The Alliance are struggling in the middle group. -
:26:08. > :26:13.ground. There is an option to get people to the ballot box. Only half
:26:13. > :26:19.the electorate voted last year. Particularly, that hit the
:26:19. > :26:26.unionists. That is not a predictor of their being a need for a new
:26:26. > :26:29.unionist party. I don't see it. were listening to what Basil had to
:26:29. > :26:37.say. Do you get a sense as to whether he will stay in the party
:26:37. > :26:43.or go? I don't think the question is "if" the question is "when" I
:26:43. > :26:46.thought he was subdued. That could be a reflection to the emotional
:26:46. > :26:51.ties he feels to the Ulster Unionist Party. I don't think it
:26:51. > :26:55.will be as easy to say I'm going to leave. He was part of the Good
:26:55. > :26:59.Friday Agreement. I think two recent decisions by the leader have
:26:59. > :27:02.left his position within that party untenable. The decision to go into
:27:02. > :27:05.the unionist forum and not to defend the Good Friday Agreement
:27:05. > :27:11.which many people believe is their defining moment of the modern era.
:27:11. > :27:15.When that happened, I think, for him to say - I'm a progressive,
:27:15. > :27:20.forward-looking liberal moderate. Where will he sit within that
:27:20. > :27:25.party? He sits uncomfortably. The difficulty is this very public
:27:25. > :27:30.implosion. It's not new the Geoffrey Donaldson thing took five
:27:30. > :27:35.years. People are turned off by that. Will he stay or go? I think
:27:35. > :27:39.he he would be prefered to be pushed out than jump. We will find
:27:39. > :27:44.out maybe next Friday, if not next Friday maybe the days or weeks
:27:45. > :27:48.after. Let's move on. Your moment of the week? It has tonight
:27:49. > :27:53.referendum of the European Union. It has been blanket coverage. I
:27:53. > :27:57.suppose what is interesting for me is many people are saying this is
:27:57. > :28:05.David Cameron's defining moment. Historic speech. I'm not convinced.
:28:05. > :28:11.There are so many questions that it raises. Let's look at David Cameron
:28:11. > :28:21.coming into the Commons chamber. He got a loud welcome from some of his
:28:21. > :28:26.
:28:26. > :28:36.colleagues. Let's look alt that. -- let's look at that. I never knew I
:28:36. > :28:37.
:28:37. > :28:41.was so popular, Mr Speaker. Quite interesting politics on the day
:28:41. > :28:44.is interesting. There are a number of issues it raises. It shows he
:28:44. > :28:49.feels the pressure from UKIP. It weakens his position, he is seen to
:28:49. > :28:54.be following their agenda. He is also promising this election in
:28:54. > :28:59.2017, people do not trust politicians. We have to look at the
:28:59. > :29:04.issue around student fees. If he wanted to do it why not do it today
:29:04. > :29:12.or tomorrow. There is nothing to stop him. We say a week is a long
:29:12. > :29:16.time in politics, 2017 is a long time away. It won't appease the
:29:16. > :29:21.eurosceptics in his party. He has said he would vote to stay in.
:29:21. > :29:26.moment of the week? Ed Miliband when he was pressed by Cameron on
:29:26. > :29:29.whether he was for an in or out referendum. He said that they
:29:29. > :29:35.weren't in favour of an in or out referendum. That wrong footed him.
:29:35. > :29:40.I don't think he coped with that well at all on the day. He has a
:29:40. > :29:45.point. I think it's too early really to start thinking about this.
:29:45. > :29:49.It is a blank sheet. Nobody knows what the powers he would like to
:29:49. > :29:57.retrieve from Europe are anyway. It's a bit of a... He will have his
:29:57. > :30:04.moment in the sun, but I think when had gets down to the nitty-gritty
:30:04. > :30:14.the EU won't do Britain any favours. the EU won't do Britain any favours.
:30:14. > :30:20.
:30:20. > :30:26.Your tweet of the week: Mine is She was referring to Herman Van
:30:26. > :30:36.Rompuy the President of the Rompuy the President of the
:30:36. > :30:38.
:30:38. > :30:48.I thought it was quite funny. They took a hell of a beating on the day,
:30:48. > :30:48.
:30:48. > :30:58.when you think about the EU, the EU is a process of renegotiation
:30:58. > :30:58.
:30:58. > :31:05.anyway. What are you hoping to see in the future? Local politics. The
:31:05. > :31:08.DCAL committee is coming to Ebrington. It's interesting
:31:08. > :31:11.Geoffrey Donaldson said he would like to see the Cabinet come to
:31:11. > :31:21.Belfast. A move to bring politics to the local arena. We need to