:00:30. > :00:37.On The View tonight, tough talk of time warps and a need for grown-up
:00:37. > :00:40.politics. Sinn Fein hits back at the DUP. We ask the Deputy First
:00:40. > :00:49.Minister Martin McGuinness what he makes of the First Minister's
:00:49. > :00:54.criticisms. I was surprised. I think he over-reacted. Marie Stopes,
:00:54. > :00:59.gay adoption and the Attorney General, has the executor's chief
:00:59. > :01:04.legal adviser overstepped the mark? Baroness O'Loan and Eamonn McCann
:01:04. > :01:11.give us their views. If you did not laugh, you would cry. How political
:01:11. > :01:16.humour helped us get through the dark days. More from that later,
:01:16. > :01:19.and keeping a straight face to discuss all of that, our
:01:19. > :01:27.commentators at Sheila Davidson and Paul McFadden. And of course you
:01:27. > :01:32.can follow us on Twitter. First tonight, it is the political
:01:32. > :01:37.marriage between Sinn Fein and the DUP turning into an unstable
:01:37. > :01:42.partnership? Last week, the First Minister said he was disappointed
:01:42. > :01:47.with his partner in Government and he told him so. Last night the
:01:47. > :01:52.chairman of Sinn Fein, Declan Kearney, accused Mr Robinson of
:01:52. > :01:57.speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Today the First Minister
:01:57. > :02:04.weighed in. I asked him for his response to the comments made by Mr
:02:04. > :02:13.Robinson. I was surprised it was a knee-jerk over the issue of welfare
:02:13. > :02:16.reform. He over-reacted. Given there was a lot of attention on
:02:16. > :02:21.Nelson's performance and his reluctance to condemn those who
:02:21. > :02:28.were involved in a blatant act of sectarianism left him open to all
:02:28. > :02:32.sorts of criticism. You are in Government together. He will be
:02:32. > :02:37.cross if you as his partner in Government try to get one of his
:02:37. > :02:42.colleagues sacked. That is not a knee-jerk reaction. I do not think
:02:42. > :02:45.Peter would have been surprised there would have been a mood in the
:02:45. > :02:52.Assembly on the Nationalist Republican side that Nelson's
:02:52. > :02:58.behaviour left a lot to be desired. Take that as said. The whole issue
:02:58. > :03:05.of welfare reform, I think we dealt with that very responsibly. I think
:03:05. > :03:09.the SDLP opportunism trying to get a petition of concern was
:03:09. > :03:14.irresponsibility of the worst kind. I think the criticisms that were
:03:14. > :03:19.levelled at Sinn Fein from Peter work and justified. Off the Nelson
:03:19. > :03:24.said he did not do anything wrong. Peter Robinson said he did not do
:03:24. > :03:31.anything wrong. That is the most worrying aspect, that Unionist
:03:31. > :03:37.leaders do not comprehend the impact of these parades and the
:03:38. > :03:44.total disrespect that is shown by the bans. I met a number of orange
:03:44. > :03:50.men earlier this week. I did not pull any punches. I told them how
:03:50. > :03:55.people felt. I visited St Matthew's Church in East Belfast and I have
:03:55. > :04:00.spoken to the priest and I know how people who are church-going
:04:00. > :04:05.Catholics, how offended they feel about the activities of the bans.
:04:05. > :04:10.The bans and the Orange Order are two separate things. You met those
:04:10. > :04:14.orange men under the radar, privately presumably. Did they not
:04:14. > :04:21.say, we are a different institution from some of the bans also taking
:04:21. > :04:24.part? Do you see that distinction? No, because the bans are
:04:24. > :04:29.participating in Orange Order parades and there is a duty and
:04:29. > :04:33.responsibility on the Orange Order to deal with the bans. To be fair
:04:33. > :04:37.to the Orange men I spoke to earlier this week, they expressed
:04:37. > :04:43.their total disapproval of the activities of these bans. The
:04:43. > :04:49.Orange Order need to very forcibly challenge the activities of these
:04:49. > :04:54.bans. Let's go back to Declan Kearney's comments last night. He
:04:54. > :04:57.said Peter Robinson is in a time warp and should start doing grown
:04:57. > :05:03.up politics and he needs to start talking out of both sides of his
:05:03. > :05:08.mouth. Those are not constructive comments. There will be occasions
:05:08. > :05:15.when the DUP have the right to criticise Sinn Fein and Sinn Fein
:05:15. > :05:22.have the right to criticise the DUP. Is this tit for tat? You are taking
:05:22. > :05:27.this opportunity to hit back. it is not tit-for-tat. I am on this
:05:27. > :05:33.programme because you invited me. We are very pleased you are on the
:05:33. > :05:38.programme. You are being pretty tough on the way Peter Robinson has
:05:38. > :05:43.conducted himself. I heard that Declan Kearney's comments were a
:05:43. > :05:50.return of serve straight back at Peter Robinson. I have a lot of
:05:50. > :05:55.respect for Peter Robinson and the work he did in bringing the DUP
:05:55. > :06:01.into these institutions. I work with him on an ongoing basis. We
:06:01. > :06:06.have a good working relationship. Peter felt he had the right, he has
:06:06. > :06:12.the right to criticise the stance the Sinn Fein took, that is fair.
:06:12. > :06:18.He is a party leader and he has every right to do that. I disagree
:06:18. > :06:21.with him, I think Nelson's behaviour was totally wrong. Of
:06:21. > :06:28.course Peter has the right to express his view in relation to the
:06:29. > :06:34.whole issue of welfare reform. people might not understand this.
:06:34. > :06:37.You talk about the cut and thrust of politics. Peter Robinson talked
:06:37. > :06:46.about you both being mature politicians who could deal with
:06:46. > :06:50.this. It looks as if the optics of this are not good. You have got two
:06:50. > :06:55.individual's right at the centre of Government pulling in different
:06:55. > :06:59.directions. It looks like your relationship is fractured. If you
:06:59. > :07:02.keep saying things that are critical of Peter Robinson and if
:07:02. > :07:08.he keeps saying things critical of you, that will persist and people
:07:08. > :07:12.are getting mixed messages. Peter needs to reflect on the stance he
:07:12. > :07:18.took at the time, which I thought was an over-reaction. And less
:07:18. > :07:22.people go away thinking your analysis of our relationship is
:07:22. > :07:26.correct, nothing can be further from the case. Did Peter Robinson
:07:27. > :07:32.touched a raw nerve when he said the Executive is being held to
:07:32. > :07:38.ransom by Sinn Fein looking over its shoulder at the SDLP? Nobody
:07:38. > :07:43.believes that, we do not look over our shoulder at any body. The SDLP
:07:43. > :07:48.either party who voted against two budgets during the lifetime of this
:07:48. > :07:54.Executive and the last Executive. They voted against the transfer of
:07:54. > :08:00.power. The SDLP came to Sinn Fein prior to the debate on the Welfare
:08:00. > :08:04.Reform and put it to Sinn Fein we should sign a petition of concern
:08:04. > :08:09.and we said no. We were more interested in dealing with the
:08:09. > :08:14.issues, not killing the Bill, but bringing about the changes which
:08:14. > :08:22.were absolutely essential if we were to stand up for the most poor
:08:22. > :08:26.and disadvantaged in society. is the problem. When Peter Robinson
:08:26. > :08:29.says that, at your party members think, I wonder if Peter Robinson
:08:30. > :08:35.has got that right? I wonder if they are looking over their
:08:35. > :08:42.shoulder and that is why you are so touching. I am never fazed by the
:08:42. > :08:47.SDLP. If you are not fazed by them, are you fazed by comments recently
:08:47. > :08:52.he said your party has refused to acknowledge the campaign of
:08:52. > :08:58.violence was wrong. You are trying to have it both ways, refusing to
:08:58. > :09:04.be open about your past or apologise for it. Bit that hurt?
:09:04. > :09:14.that brings you into the whole debate on the need for a closer
:09:14. > :09:14.
:09:14. > :09:18.reconciliation. Fine Gael have been involved in warring politics. He is
:09:18. > :09:24.also a member of a Government which fell at the last election which
:09:24. > :09:29.brought the economy to its knees. But all of this is wrapped up in
:09:29. > :09:33.the debate which needs to be had, and that is, which we have offered
:09:33. > :09:39.up our position and we are the only party to have done that
:09:39. > :09:48.consistently, that we need to have a process of reconciliation. In the
:09:48. > :09:53.process of reconciliation, and we had the spectacle of Foster
:09:53. > :09:57.trotting off to Dublin, a motion in the Assembly looking for the Irish
:09:57. > :10:00.Government to apologise for the troubles in the north while
:10:00. > :10:06.Unionists are giving the impression they had no responsibility for the
:10:06. > :10:10.troubles in the North when the perception and Duke very strongly
:10:10. > :10:13.in the nationalist and republican community that the behaviour of
:10:13. > :10:18.Unionists and their association with armed groups of all
:10:18. > :10:23.descriptions and made a big contribution to the conflict for
:10:23. > :10:28.far too long. What about today's City of Culture launch in your home
:10:28. > :10:31.city? There has been a great fanfare about what that might mean
:10:31. > :10:38.for you city, what it might mean for Northern Ireland and these
:10:38. > :10:42.islands. Do you think it will live up to its billing? The yes, I
:10:42. > :10:47.believe it will. I said this morning I was bursting with pride
:10:47. > :10:51.and the people of the city, Catholics, politics, and the way in
:10:51. > :10:57.which we all came together over the course of the last couple of years
:10:57. > :11:02.to win this fabulous opportunity. Are you happy with it being UK City
:11:02. > :11:06.of Culture? I am more focused on the advantage this can bring for
:11:06. > :11:12.the City, the opportunity it can present for the City connecting
:11:12. > :11:16.with the world. It is not a problem? Not at all. It would have
:11:17. > :11:20.been a huge mistake on my part as a senior politician in the City and
:11:20. > :11:25.in Government to pass up an opportunity that can improve the
:11:25. > :11:29.lives of all of our people. Benburb was issued this afternoon by the
:11:29. > :11:33.officer of the First Minister and the deputy minister in which Peter
:11:33. > :11:40.Robinson expressed sympathy to the family of the young woman soldier
:11:40. > :11:44.who was killed in Afghanistan recently. He was the only person
:11:44. > :11:48.quoted in that. Do you envisage a time when you and the First
:11:48. > :11:52.Minister could issue a joint statement of condolence? I would
:11:52. > :11:57.like to take this opportunity to express my sympathy and condolences
:11:57. > :12:01.to the family of the young woman who lost her life. I say that as
:12:01. > :12:06.someone on the record who has been totally opposed to the war in Iraq
:12:06. > :12:10.and Afghanistan where many innocent people have lost their lives, where
:12:10. > :12:15.many soldiers in different armies have lost their lives. But we
:12:15. > :12:25.should not ignore their reality that there are parents, brothers
:12:25. > :12:33.
:12:33. > :12:38.and sisters who are grieving and I I think all of these things will be
:12:38. > :12:47.dealt with in the way we know best. I was anticipating that I was going
:12:47. > :12:52.to be asked. This is a grieving family.
:12:52. > :12:57.Martin McGuinness talking to me at Stormont Castle today. The Attorney
:12:57. > :13:03.General's stirred controversy with his offer to help the justice
:13:03. > :13:10.committee with the Marie Stokes clinic.
:13:10. > :13:12.We'll hear from Baroness Olone and Eamonn McCann in a moment. First,
:13:12. > :13:16.Mark Devonport on John Larkin's role.
:13:16. > :13:21.The Attorney General for Northern Ireland is the Stormont executive's
:13:21. > :13:25.chief legal adviser. He gets to act himself in high profile cases like
:13:25. > :13:29.the recent judicial reviews on the Department of Health's guidelines
:13:29. > :13:32.on abortion and whether gay and unmarried couples here can adopt
:13:32. > :13:36.children. Not only that, he also regularly
:13:36. > :13:42.gives evidence to Stormont committees about various aspects of
:13:42. > :13:44.the law. Recently, he offered the justice committee his services as
:13:44. > :13:47.cross-questioner to examine whether the Marie Stokes clinic is
:13:47. > :13:51.operating within the strict law on abortion here. He believes that's
:13:51. > :13:56.within his remit as a guardian of the rule of law, but some people
:13:56. > :14:00.are worried he's expanding his role too far.
:14:00. > :14:09.Mark Devonport there. Do you have any concerns that John Larkin's
:14:09. > :14:14.overstepped the mark? No, I don't. I think that there is an involving
:14:14. > :14:19.understanding about what the Attorney General is like. We used
:14:19. > :14:23.to have an English Attorney General operating from London. It didn't
:14:24. > :14:29.iment pact much and people didn't know much about it. Now we have an
:14:29. > :14:32.Attorney General and his function is to advise the Government, chief
:14:32. > :14:36.legal advise tore the executive, but also to protect the public
:14:37. > :14:39.interest in the courts sohe has a duty to look at what the law in
:14:39. > :14:44.Northern Ireland to advise where policy changes are proposed but
:14:44. > :14:47.also to protect the law. If we take that on board, he has a duty to
:14:47. > :14:51.look at what is the law now in Northern Ireland and to advise the
:14:51. > :14:54.Government on proposed changes, I think what he's doing is what you
:14:54. > :14:58.would expect him to do. The question of, should he have write
:14:58. > :15:02.tonne the European court of human rites or sought intervention there,
:15:02. > :15:07.is a question which is the consequence of the fact that we now
:15:07. > :15:12.have devolved justice. This is a separate jurisdiction with separate
:15:12. > :15:15.powers. Is he on safe ground partly because the majority of our
:15:15. > :15:18.legislators agree with him on abortion? I think this is where I'm
:15:18. > :15:22.starting. It's not where the legislators agree with him, it's
:15:22. > :15:26.what the law currently is at the present time. That's the first
:15:26. > :15:29.question. He has to protect the public interest and the law as it
:15:29. > :15:33.is at the time and then to add size Government on changes they are
:15:33. > :15:37.proposing to make and to supervise the work of Government and legal
:15:37. > :15:42.departments. When you put all that together, what he's doing, it's
:15:42. > :15:47.really his views that don't matter. I've worked in the past with senior
:15:47. > :15:53.counsel such as John Larkin. They will argue the case for the client
:15:53. > :15:57.and that iris their job. What he's doing now is arguing the case for
:15:58. > :16:06.the law subject to proposals to change it is. What can possibly
:16:06. > :16:12.with wrong with that then, Mr McCann? What Noula said is right.
:16:12. > :16:17.That's written into the remit. It would appear that Mr Larkin is the
:16:17. > :16:25.arbiter. I would ask the question, what does John Larkin represent? He
:16:25. > :16:29.writes to the European Court of Human Rights and interferes in a
:16:29. > :16:31.case about a couple in Vienna who want to adopt a child and he writes
:16:31. > :16:39.and says this might effect the litigation in Northern Ireland.
:16:39. > :16:44.That was instigated by himself. This is a circular argument. He's
:16:44. > :16:48.intervened in the case brought by the alternative A5 alliance in
:16:48. > :16:52.relation to the proposed dual carriageway across the north. Who
:16:52. > :17:02.asked him to do that? The point of this intervention, sort of the he
:17:02. > :17:04.
:17:04. > :17:08.actively wins, will be to knock the alternative A5 out of the ring.
:17:08. > :17:14.It's going well beyond the Attorney General as anybody's understood it
:17:14. > :17:22.in the past. Was it right for him? Was it within his role and remit to
:17:22. > :17:32.write to the committee, the justice committee to suggest he hold an
:17:32. > :17:32.
:17:33. > :17:39.investigation? He's the lead tore the executive. The executive didn't
:17:39. > :17:42.ask for his advice. He volunteered the advice and not only does he
:17:42. > :17:46.volunteer the advice without consulting the executive and the
:17:46. > :17:52.department, but he then goes and implements himself of his own
:17:52. > :18:00.volition. That's true of the A5 alliance case. Perhaps this is the
:18:00. > :18:04.point, Baroness O already Loan. Given that he used such graphic
:18:04. > :18:09.language in 2008 before he was Attorney General, should he not
:18:09. > :18:16.have been an awful lot more careful in how he handled the issue now
:18:16. > :18:21.that he is Attorney General? -- Baroness O' Loan? I think the
:18:21. > :18:25.language he used is the language of two rights he has in law. The right
:18:25. > :18:29.of freedom of expression and the right of conscience, freedom of
:18:29. > :18:33.conscience. These two things were his right four years ago when he
:18:33. > :18:39.said this. Are you happy with what he said and how he said it? You can
:18:39. > :18:44.question the exact words which he used. The graphic use of language?
:18:44. > :18:47.I think what he was trying to do there rbgs as I saw it, he was
:18:47. > :18:51.trying to articulate something that we find difficult. What we are
:18:51. > :18:58.dealing with in abortion are what I would regard as right to life of a
:18:58. > :19:02.child and the rights of the mother as well. Anyway, back to today -
:19:02. > :19:06.was there grounds upon which he should sper vein - the opening of
:19:06. > :19:10.the Marie Stokes clinic was interesting because the focus of
:19:10. > :19:14.the media was on the fact that abortions would be performed up to
:19:14. > :19:18.nine weeks in Northern Ireland -- intervene. My first thought was,
:19:18. > :19:21.why nine weeks? Then of course, it's nine weeks because that's the
:19:21. > :19:26.period within which particular medication is most effective. So
:19:26. > :19:30.the nine weeks has nothing to do with the law. I think it was
:19:30. > :19:36.generating a confusion as to what the law actually said. I think the
:19:36. > :19:38.Attorney General's job is to protect the public interest, as
:19:38. > :19:44.articulated by the politician who is make the law. It's the
:19:44. > :19:49.politician who is make the law, not the Attorney General. Any problem
:19:49. > :19:54.with that, Eamonn You are entirely missing the point about what John
:19:54. > :20:02.Larkin said. His remarks were unacceptable. He's a private
:20:02. > :20:06.citizen? He was. I wasn't aware of that in 2008 and I'm surprised
:20:06. > :20:10.there wasn't more publicity about it. It came fresh to me and lots of
:20:10. > :20:14.other people. Let's be clear what he said. John Larkin said that it
:20:14. > :20:18.would be the same thing that a woman if she had an abortion, it
:20:18. > :20:23.ought to be the same thing to her to put a bullet in the back of the
:20:23. > :20:28.Head of A baby. Now, the suggestion - I know women - I know women who
:20:29. > :20:31.had terminations precisely because they had children, one of whom was
:20:31. > :20:35.severely disabled, they didn't believe they could give the care
:20:35. > :20:38.and attention to that other child if they had a child. That was the
:20:38. > :20:43.reason. The notion that that woman in that position would put a bullet
:20:43. > :20:48.in the back of the Head of A baby is disgusting, unacceptable and I'm
:20:48. > :20:54.surprised that nobody at Stormont called for the man's resignation.
:20:54. > :21:02.In a sentence, Baroness, is the concern that he's simply making the
:21:02. > :21:06.heedlines too much himself, John Larkin? It's his duty to intervene.
:21:06. > :21:10.Who does make the headlines? Journalists select what they put
:21:10. > :21:14.into the media as the headlines and that's one of the issues. There's
:21:14. > :21:18.not much coming out of Stormont at the moment. This question of the A5
:21:18. > :21:23.to which Eamonn referred very graphically. It's his duty to go
:21:23. > :21:28.before the court. No, it's not. Eamonn, the functions of the
:21:28. > :21:31.Attorney General actually require him to advise the Government.
:21:31. > :21:35.know you have more background in the law than I have, but I'm
:21:35. > :21:39.telling you as a flat fact that you are wrong about that. You said it's
:21:39. > :21:42.his duty, that implies there is a requirement. It's different to say
:21:42. > :21:47.that. He may have the potential to do that, he was not asked to do
:21:47. > :21:51.that, he wasn't asked for advice on it, he doesn't do it in relation to
:21:51. > :21:55.other matters. Are you suggesting that in every judicial review the
:21:55. > :22:00.Attorney General should run forward? Sorry, we are clearly not
:22:00. > :22:06.going to have a meeting of minds tonight, whether that's a good
:22:06. > :22:09.thing or a bad thing. We can't say, but strong views there. Thank you
:22:09. > :22:13.both very much indeed for joining us. I have no doubt it's a subject
:22:13. > :22:17.to which we'll return in the months and weeks ahead. Thank you both
:22:17. > :22:26.very much indeed. Politics is a serious business but so too is
:22:26. > :22:36.comedy. 20 years since the Empire Comedy Club at the expense of our
:22:36. > :22:38.
:22:38. > :22:48.politicians. I'm sure John Reid in the past 25 years spelt survival
:22:48. > :22:55.
:22:55. > :23:05.for both communities. How did it all begin? I'll tell you. The -
:23:05. > :23:10.
:23:10. > :23:14.King Billy... The King wasn't at the Battle of The Boim. What's the
:23:14. > :23:19.difference between my wife and a terrorist? You can negotiate with a
:23:19. > :23:28.terrorist. And this guy over here with the
:23:28. > :23:34.long hair, you look as if you're... Well we know what you could be.
:23:34. > :23:44.He's giving me that look "I am". What to you call that place that's
:23:44. > :23:45.
:23:45. > :23:51.always being bombed and I say, I don't know, it's not there any more.
:23:51. > :23:57.Order, orter. I would like to the First Minister Mr Robinson what
:23:57. > :24:02.he'll be saying to the now Taoiseach why they discussed
:24:02. > :24:05.Northern Ireland? That's none of your business, you interfering
:24:05. > :24:12.busybody. I was wondering where we'd all be in the last 5 years if
:24:12. > :24:18.he didn't have a laugh. Kevin looking at comedy over the years
:24:18. > :24:24.there. Tonight's commentators, Sheila Davidson and Paul McFadden.
:24:24. > :24:27.Paul, you did a bit of standup in your day way back when? I don't
:24:27. > :24:33.know how many years ago, Mark, but I was more Susan Boyle than Frankie
:24:33. > :24:38.Boyle. It was a one-night gig. That's as much as you need to know
:24:38. > :24:42.about it. And you have never stooped so low? Never, never.
:24:42. > :24:46.Others may say something else but I don't know, not deliberately.
:24:46. > :24:49.thought it was great. Let's talk about Martin McGuinness and the
:24:50. > :24:54.interview he gave to us this afternoon. First of all, he
:24:54. > :25:01.revealed that he's met for the first time with a delegation of
:25:01. > :25:05.senior Orangemen? A very interesting revelation. A sign of
:25:05. > :25:08.progress. Sounds as though it was a forthright meeting, assuming that
:25:08. > :25:13.the Orange Order gave as good as they got from Mr McGuinness in that
:25:13. > :25:18.sense. Interesting to hear that kind of conversation's taken place
:25:18. > :25:21.and I would say hopefully something good might come of it in the future.
:25:21. > :25:31.What light do you think was shed on the relaceship at the heart of the
:25:31. > :25:34.
:25:34. > :25:39.gecktive by what Mr McGuinness had to say tonight and what Mr Robinson
:25:39. > :25:43.said -- the executive. They know it's basically choreographed so one
:25:43. > :25:47.side can get out an argument against the other so it doesn't
:25:47. > :25:51.look like they are getting cosy. The real problem here is whenever
:25:51. > :25:56.that's a confusing message to people who aren't maybe politically
:25:56. > :25:59.aware and take that as being an absolute position that these men
:25:59. > :26:05.are in and they're not. It's not fair on the ordinary members of the
:26:05. > :26:12.public and they need to get pwhor grown-up themselves and stop this
:26:12. > :26:19.tit-for-tating. -- more grown-up. They'll get bemused looking at it.
:26:19. > :26:23.The public must be baffled. Give them credit though in political and
:26:23. > :26:28.historical terms. The two parties and constituencies, give them
:26:28. > :26:35.credit for this leadership in action. They need to work harder at
:26:35. > :26:40.it. Sheila, your Tweet of the week? Yes, my Tweet of the week is from
:26:40. > :26:47.Anne, an American right-wing lady Anne, an American right-wing lady
:26:47. > :26:52.who was, I mean just outrageous, her Tweet. She said, I approve of
:26:52. > :27:00.Romney's decision to be gentle and kind to the retard, the retard
:27:00. > :27:03.being Obama. Yes and the best response was a special Olympics
:27:03. > :27:08.ambassador and when he was asking her does that mean that Obama is
:27:08. > :27:13.like us, we get bad health and housing, but actually we've got
:27:13. > :27:19.every day where life is wonderful. She's a striking looking blonde
:27:19. > :27:23.with a TV profile? Yes. And that apparently is Anne Coulter, very
:27:23. > :27:26.well-known to American audiences, so you can understand people being
:27:26. > :27:29.offended? America a home of political correctness, I can't
:27:29. > :27:37.understand how she can get away with it. Yours? Came from a
:27:37. > :27:41.colleague of yours, Mark Simpson, and basically tapping into
:27:41. > :27:45.relationships between Sinn Fein and the DUP. Yes, he suggested the
:27:45. > :27:52.clock's already gone back in Stormont by about ten years? Yes.
:27:52. > :27:57.Paul, what are you looking forward to in the next week? Halloween. You
:27:57. > :28:01.have to wear suspenders. Looking forward to that. Pictures of
:28:01. > :28:09.Halloween celebrations in Derry last year. Sheila, you are looking
:28:09. > :28:14.forward to a programme tomorrow night? Have I Got News For You,
:28:14. > :28:19.Conrad Black with Jeremy Paxman. Let us have a look at this -
:28:19. > :28:28.remarkable stuff. Actually being able to endure a discussion like
:28:28. > :28:33.this without getting up and smashing your face in if I had been
:28:33. > :28:36.through what you put people through. Go ahead and do it. Not sure I
:28:36. > :28:42.would have been able to pass up that opportunity! Pauck both very