04/11/2012

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:00:09. > :00:14.Come this week, with it in Washington for a special edition of

:00:14. > :00:20.Wales Report on the eve of the presidential election. The result

:00:20. > :00:27.will have an impact worldwide and we will have a report on the impact

:00:27. > :00:37.on Wales. We will report from the ancestral home of Mrs Rumney. Stay

:00:37. > :00:42.

:00:42. > :00:49.Welcome to Washington DC for this special edition of Wales Report.

:00:50. > :00:54.The focus on the last few days has been on the focus of the

:00:54. > :01:00.devastation of Superstorm Sandy. But now the race is very close and

:01:00. > :01:07.both candidates are focusing on one thing. The state of the economy.

:01:07. > :01:12.How do you create growth and jobs? Obama and Romney have two different

:01:12. > :01:20.visions. I have been talking to one influential Welshman in Washington

:01:20. > :01:26.and asking him for his view about what is at stake in this campaign.

:01:26. > :01:32.There is such a sense of expectation here in Washington, but

:01:32. > :01:42.why should people care in Wales? is tremendously important, not

:01:42. > :01:47.

:01:47. > :01:53.least because of the uncertainty in Europe and the austerity programme.

:01:53. > :01:58.I think a strong and America with a clear sense of purpose over

:01:58. > :02:03.inconsistent time period has an enormous impact on the world

:02:03. > :02:08.economy and the economy of Wales and Europe in general. You are an

:02:08. > :02:15.avid follower of American politics. Is there Ricky it difference of

:02:15. > :02:20.vision between the two candidates? An enormous difference. Romney is

:02:20. > :02:28.relying in all of his propaganda on the idea that if you cut taxes at

:02:28. > :02:34.the top level you create investment and therefore jobs. He talks about

:02:34. > :02:42.creating 12 million jobs over four years. That will happen on the

:02:42. > :02:47.basis of Obama's achievement in saving the US economy from decline.

:02:47. > :02:50.If Obama is re-elected, there is an opportunity to continue with the

:02:50. > :02:55.kinds of imaginative investment that saved the US motor industry

:02:55. > :02:59.and got the banking sector back on a strong footing, although a lot of

:02:59. > :03:04.people have misgivings about many aspects of what the bankers have

:03:04. > :03:10.done and what they have not been rare -- reprimanded for doing.

:03:10. > :03:17.Obama has a much more ground it message and personal view. I am

:03:17. > :03:21.trying to be objective. You clearly think he is on the right track in

:03:21. > :03:26.terms of economics. I am wondering why it is the race has become so

:03:26. > :03:30.tight and why he is having a big fight on his hands to win a second

:03:30. > :03:37.term? Two things have happened. During the early stages of the

:03:37. > :03:43.campaign, he had a clear lead and then there was an extraordinary

:03:43. > :03:48.debate when Obama seemed to be half asleep. Somebody play and the

:03:48. > :03:56.altitude in Colorado and the fact he is very busy. He didn't rise to

:03:56. > :04:05.the occasion. Romney got a big bounce out of that. That now at

:04:05. > :04:09.ease, I think, declining. What we are seeing is Obama edging ahead.

:04:09. > :04:14.The storm last which created an opportunity for him to be seen

:04:14. > :04:21.working with the Republican Governor of New Jersey. He went on

:04:21. > :04:26.television a few days ago to say how excellent he thought Obama's

:04:26. > :04:30.response to that terrible disaster was. There are many things that

:04:30. > :04:34.resulted from Matt but it helped him recover his position a bit

:04:34. > :04:41.because he could be seen as the chief executive working across

:04:41. > :04:45.political boundaries. That was gary macro talking to me earlier. One of

:04:45. > :04:49.the defining issues of the first term has been the reform of health

:04:49. > :04:53.care. It has prompted a wider debate about the role of the state

:04:53. > :04:59.in providing for the vulnerable and elderly. It is an interesting

:04:59. > :05:05.parallel with a debate back home in Wales about the way we care for the

:05:05. > :05:10.elderly. The Older People's Commissioner considers that older

:05:10. > :05:20.people are being forced into care too soon and one doctor warns of

:05:20. > :05:27.

:05:27. > :05:32.Old age does not come alone. It presents new physical as well as

:05:32. > :05:37.mental challenges, often at a time when people have been a will,

:05:37. > :05:42.sometimes lonely and often vulnerable. Some find themselves

:05:42. > :05:51.forced out of their own home and on a merry-go-round of care homes and

:05:51. > :05:55.hospitals, and able to care for themselves. Well, it is where they

:05:55. > :06:00.could put you but because most hospitals want the birds, don't

:06:00. > :06:08.they? You go there and then they want the beds where so you goes

:06:08. > :06:14.someone else. I have done the circuit. All of them. Derek "Del

:06:14. > :06:20.Boy" Needs, as he had is known, has spent 12 months in and out of

:06:20. > :06:27.hospital and care homes in Swansea while undergoing treatment for

:06:27. > :06:34.advanced died BT's. You have a treat and then it is hard to do so

:06:34. > :06:43.they say, go on a diet. I have tried a few but always went back.

:06:44. > :06:49.I'd lost my leg and my toes on my right leg. During his prolonged

:06:50. > :06:56.stay in hospital, his partner of 23 years with who he had lived died,

:06:56. > :07:01.as did his brother. His life unravelled before his eyes. To make

:07:02. > :07:05.matters worse, he had few relatives still living in Wales to take care

:07:05. > :07:10.of him and the ultimate blow came when he discovered that he could

:07:10. > :07:19.not return to his cottage because it couldn't accommodate his

:07:19. > :07:23.wheelchair. With your rent,... it wasn't for the Red Cross a who

:07:23. > :07:30.found him sheltered accommodation, Derek would almost certainly have

:07:30. > :07:37.ended up in a care home, just another statistic in a long line of

:07:37. > :07:43.victims of the Perfect Storm of unforeseen circumstances. In less

:07:43. > :07:48.than 20 years, it is estimated that there will be more than one million

:07:48. > :07:52.people on in Wales over the age of 65. This will put enormous

:07:52. > :07:57.financial pressure on local authorities, health and social

:07:57. > :08:07.services and, not least, on individuals faced with life-

:08:07. > :08:08.

:08:08. > :08:15.changing decisions. Sarah Rochira is on something of a mission to

:08:15. > :08:18.change that situation and curb the number of elderly going into care

:08:18. > :08:23.homes unnecessarily. She is particularly concerned about the

:08:23. > :08:30.lack of information available to the elderly to enable them to stay

:08:30. > :08:33.in their own homes. It was only a fluke conversation I had with a

:08:33. > :08:43.councillor that I got the information I needed. As luck would

:08:43. > :08:48.have it, I have the stair lift put in and the shower put in. It still

:08:48. > :08:53.took about two years to get it all going, but I am so, so grateful.

:08:53. > :08:57.But without that conversation, I would know nothing at all and would

:08:57. > :09:03.have probably ended up selling the House. One thing that concerns me

:09:03. > :09:07.is the variation in advise people get. It can depend on whom you know

:09:07. > :09:12.and way you live and that is wrong. There is huge variation across

:09:12. > :09:19.Wales. There is good practice, but we need to see it become standard

:09:19. > :09:23.practice. Wales has more elderly people than anywhere else in the UK.

:09:23. > :09:30.An increasingly more and more of the elderly are going into care

:09:30. > :09:34.homes. In some cases, that move can cost them their lives. In the case

:09:34. > :09:42.of old people, we know many psychological traumas are

:09:42. > :09:47.associated with a massive spike in mortality. Dr David Leopold says

:09:47. > :09:51.the system keeps some elderly people in hospital for too long

:09:51. > :09:55.during which time their mental and physical health declines. Perhaps

:09:55. > :10:01.more worrying is the doctor's opinion of the decision to send

:10:01. > :10:06.someone into a care home from hospital is not always made at the

:10:06. > :10:12.patient's bedside. The final decision is rarely made by the

:10:12. > :10:17.doctor. You would be surprised by that, I think. The concept that

:10:17. > :10:25.decisions are made by the bed side, which most of us would expect and

:10:25. > :10:29.wish, is wrong. For many of us, indeed most of us, if we are honest,

:10:29. > :10:34.the prospect of ending up in a care home is something we prefer not to

:10:34. > :10:38.think about. His signals something quite profound and difficult in our

:10:38. > :10:42.lives - the moment we decide to relinquish our independence and

:10:42. > :10:48.place ourselves in the House -- hands of others to care for Russ.

:10:48. > :10:56.For some there is no choice and a good care home provides a kind of

:10:56. > :11:03.sanctuary. I had to think hard. I had carers in, but then I was left

:11:03. > :11:09.alone and I had to cope. I had to walk with a walking stick so I had

:11:10. > :11:19.only one hand. I had steps inside my house as well. I had a chairlift

:11:20. > :11:21.

:11:21. > :11:28.to go upstairs, but I couldn't cope. This home bucks any perception of

:11:28. > :11:33.care homes as dumping grounds for the elderly. Here, there is a

:11:33. > :11:36.deliberate policy to provide a stimulus and to encourage

:11:36. > :11:43.involvement in the kind of activities which may look mundane.

:11:43. > :11:52.In reality, they provide residents with a link back to a life once

:11:52. > :11:58.lead in their own homes. We never called them Welsh cakes. It is a

:11:58. > :12:04.lovely place here. How did you come to be here? I couldn't look after

:12:04. > :12:11.myself in the House and I didn't want to go to my son's to live.

:12:11. > :12:16.Why? I don't want to be a burden. Often it is a selfless Joyce, but

:12:16. > :12:23.no matter how good the care home, the preferred option would be to

:12:24. > :12:29.stay in their own homes, even if it means they take a chance of what

:12:29. > :12:39.remains of their lives. overwhelming number of people would

:12:39. > :12:42.

:12:42. > :12:46.say I would rather take the risk of dying sooner. I'm of a nature MIA...

:12:46. > :12:55.I would rather spend that time in my own surroundings with familiar

:12:55. > :13:01.things. With 23,000 elderly people already in care homes in Wales and

:13:01. > :13:08.growing elderly population, the older people's champion is in no

:13:08. > :13:12.doubt about the challenges now facing all of us. I have been

:13:12. > :13:17.consistently Clear as commissioner that I don't want to be the voice

:13:17. > :13:22.of others. I want to give the voice back to them so they can control

:13:22. > :13:30.their lives and the decisions they need to make. I know the Welsh

:13:30. > :13:34.government shares my aspirations and might challenge to -- his to

:13:34. > :13:42.move that took delivery so that old people have some choice over where

:13:42. > :13:47.they lived. A few days before I left Washington, I put the salient

:13:47. > :13:51.points to mark macro who chairs the social services committee. You know

:13:51. > :13:55.what the problem is according to the older people's Commissioner for

:13:55. > :14:05.Wales, that far too many people end up in care when they do not need to.

:14:05. > :14:05.

:14:05. > :14:10.The Health Committee's inquiry largely bears that out, although it

:14:10. > :14:13.is important to recognise that the number of older people going into

:14:13. > :14:17.residential care in Wales has fallen substantially over the last

:14:17. > :14:22.10 years, and if present policies continue, a reduction of 10% will

:14:22. > :14:25.happen in the next five years. The fall is happening because local

:14:25. > :14:29.authorities are much better than they once were in providing

:14:29. > :14:33.services for people in their own homes. People who previously would

:14:33. > :14:38.have needed residential care can stay for longer in the place they

:14:38. > :14:42.would prefer. One of the points made by the Commissioner is there

:14:42. > :14:46.is, if you like, a breakdown of communication meaning that the

:14:46. > :14:50.patterns of care are not what they should be. How do you see those

:14:50. > :14:55.patterns of communication? There are two points in the process.

:14:55. > :14:57.Early in the process, sometimes when people are waiting by

:14:57. > :15:02.adaptation some things in their homes but can continue to manage in

:15:02. > :15:06.their homes, they are not as good as they should be. But almost all

:15:06. > :15:10.admissions to residential care don't happen in those circumstances,

:15:10. > :15:14.they happen in a crisis. When something that has been holding

:15:14. > :15:19.someone's circumstances together fails, goes wrong, somebody else

:15:19. > :15:25.falls ill, whatever, and in a crisis you get an admission. Our

:15:25. > :15:30.focus and that of the Commission is looking at ways in which we can act

:15:30. > :15:33.differently in a crisis to stop an appropriate care admissions. When

:15:33. > :15:39.you say act differently, give me a practical example of how things

:15:39. > :15:42.might be different? In the past, large numbers of people have ended

:15:42. > :15:46.up in residential care straight from a hospital bed. They have a

:15:46. > :15:50.fall at home, something happens, they go into hospital and people,

:15:50. > :15:55.often for the best of motives, worrying about someone's ability to

:15:55. > :15:59.manage and thinking they need to be looked after and so on, decide

:15:59. > :16:02.residential care is the option. Many local authorities in Wales,

:16:02. > :16:08.Carmarthenshire would be a good example, now insist there is a six

:16:08. > :16:12.week period following people coming out of hospital in which they get

:16:12. > :16:16.what is called we able month, a concerted attempt to try to rebuild

:16:16. > :16:22.people's abilities, putting a new package around them, so they can

:16:22. > :16:26.manage at home. But not every county does that. Not in a

:16:26. > :16:30.consistent way. Almost everybody has something like it, but not

:16:30. > :16:34.everyone does it and the focus and concerted way that the best

:16:34. > :16:38.authorities manage. There is no point asking people to cope at home

:16:38. > :16:42.if they don't have the facilities and help necessary. Would you agree

:16:42. > :16:46.there are certainly plenty of examples of people ending up at

:16:46. > :16:50.home and actually finding they are not given the help they need?

:16:50. > :16:55.residential care home I have visited during Aaron Querrey, I

:16:55. > :16:58.have met people who have said, I am here as a matter of choice. Not

:16:58. > :17:03.because it was the last resort or the worst thing that could have

:17:03. > :17:06.happened to me, I didn't want to be at home. And the only thing I saw

:17:06. > :17:10.was somebody for 50 minutes in the morning and did evening and I spent

:17:10. > :17:15.the whole of the rest of the day worrying what would happen if I

:17:15. > :17:21.fell, I would prefer to be here with people around when I meet them.

:17:21. > :17:27.You are right, being at home in all circumstances is not a panacea for

:17:27. > :17:32.everybody, but where it is done well, most people would prefer it.

:17:32. > :17:35.There is a call for another voice, that the elderly in hospitals come

:17:35. > :17:40.looking for what kind of future they face, we need a voice to

:17:40. > :17:45.represent them which does not exist at the moment? Is that convincing?

:17:45. > :17:49.I'm convinced by parts, not all. I'm absolutely convinced there is a

:17:49. > :17:52.need for a voice of those people who want to speak up for a older

:17:52. > :17:56.people and make sure their views and wishes are heard more

:17:56. > :18:01.powerfully in the system. The system does not allow for that in

:18:01. > :18:06.the way it should. Do we need a new professional, an advocate, to do

:18:06. > :18:11.that? I'm not so sure. There are lots of people in the system,

:18:11. > :18:15.family friends, for example, very keen to have a stronger voice.

:18:15. > :18:18.There are care staff, social workers who place people in care

:18:18. > :18:24.homes, lots of people in the system already who should be speaking up

:18:24. > :18:29.for older people, but the system is not as good as it needs to be in

:18:29. > :18:33.allowing that to happen. A final point, are you confident that the

:18:33. > :18:36.quality of the system and how it supports elderly people is going to

:18:36. > :18:40.improve in years to come, despite the fact there are enormous

:18:40. > :18:43.budgetary constraints and huge financial pressures? There will be

:18:43. > :18:48.a lot of people watching this he will find it difficult to believe

:18:48. > :18:52.we can deliver a better system with far fewer resources. Paying for

:18:52. > :18:57.care in the future is a huge issue. It is an issue that has to be

:18:57. > :19:00.resolved not just at the Welsh level but UK level. We have had

:19:00. > :19:06.lots of evidence in our inquiry about the Dome of report and the

:19:06. > :19:09.urgent need for the UK Government to act on it. Until we sort out the

:19:09. > :19:13.fundamental question about paying for care in the future, anybody who

:19:13. > :19:17.has looked at the system will be anxious about how we will manage.

:19:17. > :19:20.Thank you. That was Mark Drakeford talking to

:19:20. > :19:24.me a few days ago. We have already heard from one

:19:24. > :19:30.Welsh voice in America, but I have been to a corner of the states

:19:30. > :19:33.where Welsh voices are far more familiar. The state of Ohio is one

:19:33. > :19:37.of the swing states in this election, every vote will count,

:19:37. > :19:42.including in the village of Oak Hill, a village settled by Welsh

:19:42. > :19:45.people in the first half of the 19th century. I have been to talk

:19:46. > :19:51.to one of the leading lights in the Welsh community there.

:19:51. > :19:57.Elizabeth, you've been here since 1974, and this is the very southern

:19:57. > :20:06.tip for most of Ohio. That's right. Oak Hill. What is your link with

:20:06. > :20:13.Oak Hill? I had relatives that emigrated here in the 1800s. Are my

:20:13. > :20:22.grandmother's side of the family. How many of them? There were two

:20:22. > :20:27.branches of the family, the Morgans and Daviess. Here we have pretty

:20:27. > :20:32.spectacular proof of Welsh heritage in America, what do you call it?

:20:33. > :20:42.The Welsh American Heritage Museum. It is the only one in the States?

:20:43. > :20:48.

:20:48. > :20:54.It is remarkable. It is like stepping back 200 years. Yes.

:20:54. > :21:00.take a seat. From 1840, then in 1971 it is converted into a

:21:00. > :21:07.heritage museum? In between times, the Baptist denomination took over

:21:07. > :21:12.the church and the Congregational church closed. I think they kept it

:21:12. > :21:17.going until the late 1960s. And the church was going to be sold. So a

:21:17. > :21:22.group of interested people who wanted to prove that -- to preserve

:21:22. > :21:26.the Welshness got together and bought the Church in 1971. It is

:21:26. > :21:31.lovely, and there is nothing quite like it anywhere, as far as I am

:21:31. > :21:36.aware. You have amassed a lot of treasures? Yes. How much work was

:21:36. > :21:46.that? We asked people to donate things of Welsh interest to the

:21:46. > :21:48.

:21:48. > :21:52.museum. Sometimes when people pass What it for you is the big value of

:21:52. > :21:58.this place? What does it contribute? It reminds everybody

:21:58. > :22:03.off the Welsh heritage and the beginnings of the people who worked

:22:03. > :22:06.hard when they came to Oak Hill. Most came because they were

:22:06. > :22:11.escaping or fleeing terrible hardship? Yes. But they found

:22:11. > :22:17.pretty tough conditions here? The first generation worked very

:22:17. > :22:23.hard. It was their children who reaped the benefits. What does the

:22:23. > :22:29.sense of Welshness in Oakland today? -- what is the sense of? Is

:22:29. > :22:33.its strong? Not as strong as when I first came here. When I came it was

:22:33. > :22:39.at its peak at that time. The younger people don't have much

:22:39. > :22:44.interest, it is very hard to attract them to many Welsh events

:22:44. > :22:50.or come to the Museum. Do you miss Wells after 28 years? Yes, over the

:22:50. > :22:54.years I have made frequent trips back home, twice a year. Do you

:22:54. > :23:01.think you would ever go back to settle in Wales at any stage, or is

:23:01. > :23:11.this home? This is home now. My children and grandchildren are here.

:23:11. > :23:14.

:23:14. > :23:19.We're over here now. SPEAKS IN WELSH. 24 speaking to us. -- thank

:23:19. > :23:23.you for speaking to us. The Welsh Heritage Museum in Oak

:23:23. > :23:27.Hill, Ohio. There is a rich Welsh heritage and lots of the USA.

:23:27. > :23:34.Indeed, there is an unexpected Welsh flavour to the presidential

:23:34. > :23:38.campaign, given the ancestral story of Mrs Romney, whose family has

:23:38. > :23:48.links with Nantyffyllon. We sent the former Plaid Cymru MP Adam

:23:48. > :23:50.

:23:50. > :23:53.Price, who has just been studying It is hard to avoid the razzmatazz

:23:53. > :24:00.of an American presidential election. Even at home here in

:24:00. > :24:07.Wales. Ann Romney's father was born in the street behind me. Proud of

:24:07. > :24:12.the Welsh working classes, she even visited the area and burned those

:24:12. > :24:19.famous Welsh cakes live on Good Morning America. It was to prove

:24:19. > :24:23.her Anglo credentials, quipped one commentator! Maybe he was thinking

:24:23. > :24:27.of Alfred the Great?! This campaign has been the longest and certainly

:24:28. > :24:31.most expensive in history. It has also been the most disappointing.

:24:31. > :24:35.Both parties ended up with a candidate that did not fire up the

:24:35. > :24:40.debates, the Democrats with a president who never really

:24:40. > :24:44.delivered on a promise of hope and change. And the Republicans with a

:24:44. > :24:53.moderate bat tilted right to win the nomination, then tilted right

:24:53. > :24:57.back again to try to win the White Who'd have thought that this most

:24:57. > :25:02.boring of campaigns would have ended in such a nail-biting finish?

:25:02. > :25:08.This is the closest presidential race involving an incumbent since

:25:08. > :25:12.1916. The Democrat Woodrow Wilson won that time around. Within a year,

:25:12. > :25:15.the United States had entered the First World War, decisively sipping

:25:15. > :25:19.their -- tipping the balance in favour of the Allies.

:25:19. > :25:24.No one is suggesting there is as much at stake for us this time

:25:24. > :25:30.around, but the reverberations will still be felt here in streets like

:25:30. > :25:37.this. Europe may not be at war, but it faces a severe economic crisis.

:25:37. > :25:42.President Obama is the last of the Keynesians in a world addicted to

:25:42. > :25:47.austerity. Will a Romney victory condemn us to economic oblivion?

:25:47. > :25:52.That matters in Wales. Of the 40 billion also manufactured goods

:25:52. > :25:56.that UK exports to North America every year, about 4 billion are

:25:56. > :26:01.made here in Wales. And it will be the economy that decides the

:26:02. > :26:07.election for the average American voter. One by one, states that

:26:07. > :26:10.Obama won in 2008 are slipping beyond his reach, leaving the rust

:26:11. > :26:18.belt of struggling manufacturing areas as the real battleground in

:26:18. > :26:22.this election. It sometimes feels as if the candidates are running

:26:22. > :26:27.not for the presidency of the United States but for the

:26:27. > :26:31.governorship of Ohio, a state with strong Welsh connections. It may

:26:31. > :26:37.even be that a few thousand Welsh American boats, descendants of

:26:37. > :26:45.people from valleys like this, may end up determining the fate of

:26:45. > :26:49.Barack Obama. One thing is for certain, this

:26:50. > :26:56.election is too close to call. I will make one prediction, though -

:26:56. > :27:01.whoever wins, they will be loathed by the other side but unloved by

:27:01. > :27:07.their own. This inauguration, when it comes in January, always on a

:27:07. > :27:12.cold winter's day, will be just a bit colder this day. And in the age

:27:12. > :27:16.of antipathy not just of the President but of politics itself.

:27:16. > :27:20.A Welsh take on the presidential contest. They will be counting the

:27:21. > :27:27.votes on Tuesday night and the result could affect us all. A quick

:27:27. > :27:29.reminder of the contact details, you can e-mail us at