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:00:00. > :00:08.Tonight on The Wales Report - we're at Westminster where today the Queen

:00:09. > :00:11.delivered her speech outlining the Government's plans

:00:12. > :00:20.Forget strong and stable, the new buzzwords are smooth and orderly.

:00:21. > :00:22.So what's in it and what does it mean for Wales?

:00:23. > :00:32.Good evening - and welcome to The Wales Report in Westminster.

:00:33. > :00:36.The Queen has been coming here to deliver the annual programme

:00:37. > :00:40.for government for the best part of 70 years, but it was all a bit

:00:41. > :00:44.different this time - a car rather than a carriage,

:00:45. > :00:47.no horses and day dress rather than robes.

:00:48. > :00:51.The content too was different laying out plans for the next two years

:00:52. > :00:53.rather than just the coming year, so that the government can

:00:54. > :01:02.It wasn't quite the speech the government was hoping to deliver

:01:03. > :01:05.governments without a majority have to compromise.

:01:06. > :01:08.So what's in it and how will it affect us in Wales?

:01:09. > :01:10.You can join in the discussion tonight online - the hashtag

:01:11. > :01:16.In a moment we'll hear from the Secretary of State

:01:17. > :01:22.for Wales but first let's take a closer look at today's events.

:01:23. > :01:24.I've spent the afternoon outside Parliament gathering opinions after

:01:25. > :01:44.speech. These are the strangest of times.

:01:45. > :01:48.One of the hottest June on record, a very unusual Queen's speech and the

:01:49. > :01:53.government still seeking a deal to govern. And hanging over everything,

:01:54. > :01:57.Brexit. My government's priority is to secure the best possible deal as

:01:58. > :02:04.the country leaves the European Union. My ministers are committed to

:02:05. > :02:08.working with Parliament, the devolved administrations, business

:02:09. > :02:14.and others, to build the widest possible consensus on the country's

:02:15. > :02:18.future outside the European Union. But if negotiations with Brussels

:02:19. > :02:23.will be tough, then for Theresa May, keeping her own party on board could

:02:24. > :02:27.be even more challenging. As a former party insider knows all too

:02:28. > :02:32.well. We have seen a fundamental change in tone, a year of telling

:02:33. > :02:38.everyone that this people had spoken, now we talk about consensus,

:02:39. > :02:42.uniting the United Kingdom, we see people who are pro-Remainers, in

:02:43. > :02:46.pole position in cabinet and receive parliamentary arithmetic that is

:02:47. > :02:51.incredibly tight. I think we are revisiting this issue in a very

:02:52. > :02:54.interesting and big way. The Conservative Party was the most

:02:55. > :02:59.successful election winning machine in the world for much of the 20th

:03:00. > :03:03.century and it ruined that when it got ideological. It did that over

:03:04. > :03:07.Europe for the first time. People believe the purity of your stance

:03:08. > :03:13.over Europe is more important than being in power. Deals will have to

:03:14. > :03:18.be struck abroad and at home but in all that deal-making, how strong

:03:19. > :03:21.will Wales' voice be? The Wales voice will depend on the skill and

:03:22. > :03:30.determination of those making their voices heard. That is your party? It

:03:31. > :03:36.is. It will be my party. Will she listen? I hope so, she has always

:03:37. > :03:42.listen to me so far. I think she is in listening mode. As the talking

:03:43. > :03:47.continues between Downing Street and the Democratic Unionists, does this

:03:48. > :03:50.hung Parliament offer new opportunities for Wales? It is now

:03:51. > :03:56.or never in terms of getting things from Theresa May. The Treasury knows

:03:57. > :03:59.if she gives something to Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland will

:04:00. > :04:04.also want something and I've no doubt the England regions, which is

:04:05. > :04:06.one of the reasons they are saying, we can't give all of our cash to

:04:07. > :04:11.that country because the other countries will want it as well.

:04:12. > :04:15.Theresa May is desperate for those votes so she will probably have to

:04:16. > :04:19.take the risk. So just how difficult will it be for the government to get

:04:20. > :04:22.any of its legislation through this place? What is the forecast for

:04:23. > :04:28.Theresa May and have plans to govern? Survival of the government

:04:29. > :04:36.is a big challenge. Survival for the reason May-ism one also. There is

:04:37. > :04:39.also Brexit. An historic, nation changing challenge. The government

:04:40. > :04:46.has to get through two years Parliament with Brexit on the

:04:47. > :04:51.agenda. That's just the beginning of the battle. Britain has two fight at

:04:52. > :04:53.the table, on the other side, European negotiators know that

:04:54. > :05:00.Britain's position is much weaker since the election. Anybody here

:05:01. > :05:07.will tell you political forecasting is a very dangerous game. These

:05:08. > :05:10.days, it is probably safer to quote weather forecasters, who are

:05:11. > :05:11.predicting huge thunderstorms in Westminster and throughout the UK.

:05:12. > :05:26.Maybe they are right. Earlier, I spoke to the Secretary of

:05:27. > :05:28.State for Wales, Alun Cairns and I predicting that it wouldn't be easy

:05:29. > :05:37.to get any of of this legislation through Parliament. 27 bills were

:05:38. > :05:42.laid out today, 24 relate wholly or in part in relation to Wales. I

:05:43. > :05:50.think with this job of work to do, we forgot to leave the European

:05:51. > :05:54.Union, lots of technical bills. -- we have got to leave the European

:05:55. > :05:59.Union. All of these are really positive bills that will give the

:06:00. > :06:04.right outcome in order to make the best of leaving. We will come on the

:06:05. > :06:07.Brexit but on the logistics of getting this through Parliament, and

:06:08. > :06:14.prospects for your government, you haven't got a deal with the DUP yet.

:06:15. > :06:18.Let's see what comes out of that. Take Brexit for example,

:06:19. > :06:22.specifically. Looking at the Labour Party manifesto and the Conservative

:06:23. > :06:26.Party manifesto, they both talk about leaving the single market so

:06:27. > :06:31.therefore, on that basis, we will work on the basis of what we believe

:06:32. > :06:36.is the right thing to do for the UK and Welsh economy and that is part

:06:37. > :06:41.of our speech today. Before Brexit, though, let's look at a potential

:06:42. > :06:45.deal with the DUP. Many people are seeing opportunities for Wales

:06:46. > :06:50.because a a government gives something to the DUP and Northern

:06:51. > :06:55.Ireland, you dare not give something to Wales, Scotland and the English

:06:56. > :07:03.regions? Let's see what the deal is to begin with. In principle, though?

:07:04. > :07:06.Andrew Davies in Cardiff is saying, we can give to the DUP and not get

:07:07. > :07:11.something for Wales. Surely you would want that? I am always

:07:12. > :07:15.fighting for Wales as you would expect. Look at my record, you will

:07:16. > :07:19.remember for many decades, the Labour Party complained about a fair

:07:20. > :07:24.funding settlement for Wales. I signed that deal just before

:07:25. > :07:29.Christmas. They had complained about it for decades despite being in

:07:30. > :07:34.power. Wales gets ?120 for every ?100 spent in England. We have

:07:35. > :07:39.introduced the funding flow. Those issues don't exist in Northern

:07:40. > :07:42.Ireland as they are. A devolution settlement and responsibilities are

:07:43. > :07:46.very different as well. It is far too easy to try to make a simplistic

:07:47. > :07:52.comparison when it is more complicated. Are you telling Theresa

:07:53. > :07:55.May around the cabinet table, it would be unwise, Prime Minister, to

:07:56. > :07:59.give something to Northern Ireland without the other nations getting

:08:00. > :08:03.something as well? You could face a backlash. You say no? What takes

:08:04. > :08:09.place in the cabinet remained private. But look at my record, the

:08:10. > :08:14.new funding deal is in place but we also have city deals in Cardiff,

:08:15. > :08:19.Swansea, we have a commitment for a north Wales growth deal, this is

:08:20. > :08:23.money in addition to the new funding deal I negotiated and also the UK

:08:24. > :08:27.share prosperity fund was central to our manifesto which commits to

:08:28. > :08:33.bringing what is currently European money, that level of funding to all

:08:34. > :08:37.parts of the UK. As the voice of Wales around the cabinet table,

:08:38. > :08:41.would you be disappointed if Northern Ireland gets something

:08:42. > :08:47.Wales doesn't? Wales already gets something Northern Ireland doesn't

:08:48. > :08:53.get, one is this funding. The scale of ?120 compared to ?100. The city

:08:54. > :08:59.deal also. As well as the north Wales growth deal. Let's look at

:09:00. > :09:05.Brexit. Eight of the bills are big on Brexit. There is talk about power

:09:06. > :09:10.is coming back from Brussels and Wales won't lose out. What exactly

:09:11. > :09:15.are you saying. There currently are powers that exist in the European

:09:16. > :09:20.Union and those powers will come back to the UK. It is a question of

:09:21. > :09:24.where they sit. Our instinct is to devolve as much as we can. We also

:09:25. > :09:28.need to provide certainty to business and we also need UK

:09:29. > :09:34.frameworks because for example, unless we act, there is nothing to

:09:35. > :09:37.stop anyone government, Wales or Scotland, hugely subsidising one

:09:38. > :09:42.particular sector to undermine the sector that might exist elsewhere in

:09:43. > :09:46.the UK. Therefore, we need to protect against that. The current

:09:47. > :09:50.rules that exist in the European Union, we need a UK version of that

:09:51. > :09:55.and of course, in delivering that, we will work closely with the Welsh

:09:56. > :10:00.government, as I always do. Looking at agriculture, which is devolved,

:10:01. > :10:04.you would presume everything goes straight to Cardiff, straight to

:10:05. > :10:10.Edinburgh. The detail of the Queen's speech talks that national policies.

:10:11. > :10:14.I presume you're talking UK wide here? Agriculture is rightly

:10:15. > :10:19.devolved and that's where we stand. That operate in a framework the

:10:20. > :10:23.European Union has set up so we need a framework we agree across all

:10:24. > :10:29.parts of the UK so it prevents any one administration from hugely

:10:30. > :10:33.subsidising one sector. Give us an example of what you mean could be

:10:34. > :10:40.held at a UK level on agriculture. We have talked about replicating the

:10:41. > :10:44.European powers at a UK level. Then, when we have got agreement for the

:10:45. > :10:48.structure, we would anticipate devolving as much as we possibly can

:10:49. > :10:52.out of what we call a holding pattern. This is what we talked

:10:53. > :10:56.about in the white paper and credit to Mark Dry could, he said provided

:10:57. > :11:02.it has been replicated, he is happy to work on that. Nothing Wales is

:11:03. > :11:08.expecting to get back from Brussels will be held, stopgap, in

:11:09. > :11:11.Westminster? Not until we have got the framework and everything agreed.

:11:12. > :11:18.The most important thing for me is farmers and industry have certainty

:11:19. > :11:22.in terms of how the laws work. We need to provide that certainty. The

:11:23. > :11:27.European Union provides it as it stands but when we leave, we need to

:11:28. > :11:32.protect the single market across the UK so that farmers in Wales can

:11:33. > :11:37.trade and sell their goods in England and vice versa, but also, we

:11:38. > :11:43.need international trade deals whereby exporters or manufacturers

:11:44. > :11:46.in Wales can take those new opportunities leaving European Union

:11:47. > :11:47.brings and that would take a trade agreement for which we will need at

:11:48. > :11:56.framework across the UK. After the election and the result

:11:57. > :12:01.you did not want will it be a softer Brexit? I do not accept soft or

:12:02. > :12:05.hard, we want the right deal, the Labour Party manifesto and our

:12:06. > :12:11.manifesto board said we will leave the membership, we will not be

:12:12. > :12:17.members of the single market. Your party leader in Scotland, Ruth

:12:18. > :12:20.Davidson, she wants membership of the single market back on the

:12:21. > :12:26.agenda, is she right, will you join her in pushing for that? The Labour

:12:27. > :12:31.Party manifesto and the Conservative manifesto both talk about not being

:12:32. > :12:39.members of the single market but we want access... So is Ruth Davis

:12:40. > :12:43.wrong? Let's focus on the outcomes, I want someone who makes any sort of

:12:44. > :12:48.gadget in Wales to have the right and the opportunity to sell it in

:12:49. > :12:53.Europe in a similar way to the do now. What does access to it mean? Do

:12:54. > :12:58.you want to be in the single market? That is what lots of conservatives

:12:59. > :13:04.are pushing for now. We want to be able to sell and trade freely across

:13:05. > :13:08.the single market. The most frictionless way possible as we can

:13:09. > :13:11.with the European Union and the Welsh government collet unfettered.

:13:12. > :13:16.These are one and the same thing, it shows there are a a lot of common

:13:17. > :13:21.ground across the Labour Party and Conservative Party, the two largest

:13:22. > :13:25.parties in parliament and I believe that basis through constructive

:13:26. > :13:28.joint working, looking for the right outcomes for businesses and on that

:13:29. > :13:37.basis we will do the right thing for the Wales and the UK economy. The

:13:38. > :13:43.Queen said the priority will be building a more united country, what

:13:44. > :13:47.does that mean? It goes back to a country that works for everyone. We

:13:48. > :13:51.remember when the Prime Minister stood on the steps of Downing Street

:13:52. > :13:54.a year ago, she spoke about the bond between Wales, England, Scotland and

:13:55. > :13:59.Northern Ireland and she understands the importance of the union. It's

:14:00. > :14:04.really important to Wales, the skills of public money we receive,

:14:05. > :14:09.all the advantages we get from being part of the fifth largest economy in

:14:10. > :14:13.the world, and on that basis we want to ensure the most deprived parts,

:14:14. > :14:17.West Wales and the ballet as it is currently classified by the EU, gets

:14:18. > :14:22.the right level of support and that's why in our manifesto we

:14:23. > :14:25.brought forward the UK Shared Prosperity Fund so that name means

:14:26. > :14:31.the UK Government... So it's about redistributing wealth? Two it's much

:14:32. > :14:36.more accommodated than that but it's about a country that is at ease with

:14:37. > :14:43.itself... What does that mean? These are not the words obviously, but

:14:44. > :14:49.what you mean about a more united country and talking specifically

:14:50. > :14:55.about the geography? Are you rolling back on devolution? You are thinking

:14:56. > :14:57.about process, we are thinking about culture, opportunities, it's about

:14:58. > :15:03.bringing the country, there are quite obviously divisions we have

:15:04. > :15:08.seen with these terrorist attacks of late, we want to ensure the country

:15:09. > :15:12.is at ease with itself. But the Prime Minister Pittsburgh union of

:15:13. > :15:16.the UK at the top of her agenda. She said it on her first day in Downing

:15:17. > :15:21.Street and it's a common theme in our manifesto and it recognises that

:15:22. > :15:27.four countries coming together are much greater as one unit than we are

:15:28. > :15:31.when we are all acting and working in different directions with

:15:32. > :15:36.different priorities. How long will Theresa May be Prime Minister do you

:15:37. > :15:40.think? Well she absolutely has my support and the full support of the

:15:41. > :15:44.parliamentary party. Last week when she spoke to all the Conservative

:15:45. > :15:49.MPs I have never seen such support behind one Prime Minister as was

:15:50. > :15:55.demonstrated... She is on fire, top up again, leading the country? The

:15:56. > :15:58.support paramount, the disbursement of many journalists who were

:15:59. > :16:08.expecting something different. There is important work to do, a plan in

:16:09. > :16:13.the Queen 's speech... You had to ditch loads of things, this was not

:16:14. > :16:17.the plan was it? Strong and stable, you are scrambling for a coalition

:16:18. > :16:22.of chaos with the DUP, it's blown up in your face hasn't it? It's about

:16:23. > :16:27.doing right thing for the country and doing the right thing to get the

:16:28. > :16:32.right outcome. We continue to have a growing economy, when we have that

:16:33. > :16:37.we can continue to grow the spending on public services on the public

:16:38. > :16:41.sector in general, on reducing taxes, controlling immigration and

:16:42. > :16:46.taking those new opportunities that leaving the... So she will lead you

:16:47. > :16:50.into the next election? She has said she will lead us for as long as she

:16:51. > :17:00.has the support of the MPs and the party members and at the moment she

:17:01. > :17:03.has that support and I don't see that changing. Alun Cairns, thank

:17:04. > :17:13.you very much. The Welsh Secretary Alun Cairns talking to me earlier.

:17:14. > :17:15.Owen Smith is Labour's newly appointed Shadow Secretary of State

:17:16. > :17:17.for Northern Ireland, the leader of Plaid

:17:18. > :17:18.Cymru's Westminster group - Liz Saville-Roberts

:17:19. > :17:22.and the Liberal Democrat peer Baroness Jenny Randerson.

:17:23. > :17:28.I will start with you Owen Smith, what will be the Labour strategy,

:17:29. > :17:33.will you just oppose everything for the sake of it? We never do that. If

:17:34. > :17:37.the government put things on the table we think are worthwhile or

:17:38. > :17:42.there are bills as some of today that we think are necessary we will

:17:43. > :17:45.do our job which is to be loyal opposition scrutinising what the

:17:46. > :17:49.government is doing and trying to keep them honest but we will remind

:17:50. > :17:54.people of what they could have had. We will remind them what they could

:17:55. > :17:57.have won. Queen 's speech today which is incredibly thin. There is

:17:58. > :18:03.barely enough legislation you could argue other than the Brexit stuff to

:18:04. > :18:08.them going. Do we need a bill for smart meters? For the space

:18:09. > :18:12.industry? They were padding. We will point out the things which could

:18:13. > :18:17.have been in there. All the things Labour would have done. This is a

:18:18. > :18:21.government which has listened, ditched a lot of its manifesto after

:18:22. > :18:27.the election, it has lessened, the triple lock on pensions is gone, the

:18:28. > :18:32.means testing on winter fuel, it has listened. It has not lessened, it

:18:33. > :18:39.has given into the political arithmetic. There is really no sign

:18:40. > :18:44.that this government even now is achieving the humility it needs to

:18:45. > :18:50.have in the face of that election debacle. They have given in to the

:18:51. > :18:55.political arithmetic, the truth of the situation is they will not get

:18:56. > :19:01.anything, even slightly controversial, through Parliament.

:19:02. > :19:06.And also they are going to have to devote so much of the political time

:19:07. > :19:10.in Westminster to the Brexit negotiations. We will come onto

:19:11. > :19:16.those, but Liz Sabo Roberts what will be strategy of Plaid Cymru be?

:19:17. > :19:21.Do you see this hand Parliament offering opportunities for Wales?

:19:22. > :19:25.There have been opportunities in the past and I hope Plaid Cymru can play

:19:26. > :19:31.a role again in the future to bring particular benefits for Wales.

:19:32. > :19:36.Interesting Owen Smith now these Shadow Secretary of State for Health

:19:37. > :19:40.Ireland, and what if we see the DUP asking for particular deals, how

:19:41. > :19:46.does that play back to Wales and our block grant? But what we have seen

:19:47. > :19:49.is a hollowed out shell of a government and what has remained of

:19:50. > :19:54.the manifesto they dared to put in front of the public and that's one

:19:55. > :19:58.of the most challenging times we face not only in terms of Brexit and

:19:59. > :20:02.I would expect a far greater role to be played by the devolved

:20:03. > :20:06.governments, we need to have more than the details. We need to play a

:20:07. > :20:10.part for our devolved governments in the process and in the final

:20:11. > :20:15.decisions. We have had some of the most terrible events in terms of

:20:16. > :20:18.tragedies and terrorist attacks that our generation has experienced and

:20:19. > :20:22.in all honesty there is nothing to deal with that. I would have

:20:23. > :20:28.expected more to support the police and fundamental questions about

:20:29. > :20:32.austerity. Let's look at Brexit, Owen you presumably you are pretty

:20:33. > :20:36.close on the type of Brexit you would advocate, do you see this as

:20:37. > :20:40.an opportunity to ditch party allegiances and form some sort of

:20:41. > :20:45.consensus across the opposition parties to work together and push

:20:46. > :20:49.for a softer Brexit? Yes I think it's an opportunity for all of us in

:20:50. > :20:52.the House of Commons including those on the Tory side and in Northern

:20:53. > :20:56.Ireland who want to see a Brexit that will not damage our economy.

:20:57. > :21:01.Who want to make sure we stay as close to being in the single market

:21:02. > :21:06.as we possibly can, that we have got a customs union we can deal with.

:21:07. > :21:11.Can I press you on that, you say as close as possible to the single

:21:12. > :21:15.market, more than 30 MPs from your own party are pushing a letter today

:21:16. > :21:21.for a commitment from Jeremy Corbyn to push to remain in the single

:21:22. > :21:25.market. I share that view, I think the outcome which would be best

:21:26. > :21:28.would effectively be for us to be in the single market. Is he listening

:21:29. > :21:34.to you, you're on the front bench now. I will come back, I have been

:21:35. > :21:39.in Northern Ireland this week but I will tell him at the moment I do not

:21:40. > :21:42.see a solution which will be politically acceptable and

:21:43. > :21:45.acceptable in terms of maintaining the peace process in Northern

:21:46. > :21:51.Ireland that does not leave us with a soft border between North and

:21:52. > :21:54.South or a border between Great Britain and Northern Ireland that is

:21:55. > :22:00.going to be pretty much as it is right now. Do you think the Labour

:22:01. > :22:04.position is strong enough on Brexit and clear enough? You are on the

:22:05. > :22:08.front bench now, you can tell him. We

:22:09. > :22:18.I think the real missed opportunity of this in respect of Brexit is to

:22:19. > :22:22.lay out more detail... This is a real cause of concern, we have Owen

:22:23. > :22:26.Smith talking about being the opposition but there is no

:22:27. > :22:30.consistent from the Labour Party as to what their approach to Brexit

:22:31. > :22:35.would be. If we can come back to Wales, we have been advocating

:22:36. > :22:40.membership of the single market, the customs union but this isn't just

:22:41. > :22:43.us, business voices are saying mess, agriculture are seeing less, we need

:22:44. > :22:49.to have this consistent voice for Wales because Wales will suffer

:22:50. > :22:54.otherwise. The people of Wales and the UK said a very clear no to your

:22:55. > :22:58.position on Brexit, they do not want a second referendum, you have lost

:22:59. > :23:01.the battle and are out of touch as a party. We are certainly not in a

:23:02. > :23:09.position having lost the battle on Brexit. We are just starting on the

:23:10. > :23:12.process of negotiation. There are a lot of skirmishes to come and I can

:23:13. > :23:18.tell you that the Liberal Democrats will be working every day to make

:23:19. > :23:26.sure that Britain remains within the single market and that we have the

:23:27. > :23:30.sort of Brexit that is acceptable to the people of Britain and will not

:23:31. > :23:35.make Wales border. What do you say to the people of Wales who want a

:23:36. > :23:41.hard Brexit? Those who voted out do not want a soft Brexit so what do

:23:42. > :23:46.you say to them? Of course there are people who want a hard Brexit but

:23:47. > :23:51.40% of people one year ago did not want Brexit at all, wanted to

:23:52. > :23:56.remain. Where the government has gone badly wrong I think is not

:23:57. > :24:05.recognising that the 52% who voted to leave did not have one single

:24:06. > :24:09.clear idea, there was no recipe on the ballot paper for what sort of

:24:10. > :24:14.Brexit we would have. In the recent election what was clear from the

:24:15. > :24:19.public view is more and more people are saying I did not realise it was

:24:20. > :24:24.going to be so complicated. You ain't seen nothing yet. One of our

:24:25. > :24:30.roles will be to work with other parties in order to get the very

:24:31. > :24:35.best deal for Wales and the UK. Livestock about the potential deal

:24:36. > :24:41.with the DUP. You have been over there today Owen, what could be the

:24:42. > :24:45.potential impact of a deal like that, not on UK politics but on

:24:46. > :24:49.politics in Northern Ireland and also the knock-on effect as

:24:50. > :24:54.suggested for Wales? It's not just in Wales we need is strong and

:24:55. > :24:58.stable government, are Westminster, we need one in Northern Ireland and

:24:59. > :25:03.the worst of all deal with the one which led to in any way inhibiting

:25:04. > :25:09.the peace process in Northern Ireland. That cannot be allowed to

:25:10. > :25:13.happen. Do you think a deal with the DUP in Westminster scuppers the

:25:14. > :25:18.rebirth of the assembly in Belfast? I do not think that, I think it's

:25:19. > :25:21.possible deal can be done between the DUP and the Tories in

:25:22. > :25:25.Westminster and the Stormont assembly and executive could be

:25:26. > :25:29.restored in Northern Ireland. But there is a danger that it is

:25:30. > :25:32.perceived as damaging the impartiality of the government, that

:25:33. > :25:45.it inhibits talks between the parties and it is perceived to be an

:25:46. > :25:48.fair. Is also a danger that any deal needs to be extended to other parts

:25:49. > :25:50.of the UK including Wales and I would agree about that, we need to

:25:51. > :25:53.be careful to scrutinise the government. If there was a deal for

:25:54. > :25:55.?2 billion extra for Northern Ireland as is being discussed you

:25:56. > :26:02.would expect parity for Wales but anything less is not good enough? I

:26:03. > :26:05.think we should look at how the nations are financed as it stands

:26:06. > :26:10.but of course parity with Northern Island and the other big

:26:11. > :26:15.infrastructure we have seen in England we have not seen in Wales.

:26:16. > :26:19.We should make Wales position as strong as possible with some aspects

:26:20. > :26:23.of the bills mentioned today, agriculture and fisheries, are these

:26:24. > :26:27.taking back powers from our devolved governments and what are the

:26:28. > :26:32.implications going to be? One of the really important things picking up

:26:33. > :26:37.on that last point is we make sure the repatriations of powers from the

:26:38. > :26:44.EU is not a central government power grab. We need to be devolving powers

:26:45. > :26:47.to Wales, we need to use the Brexit process as a way of getting more

:26:48. > :26:53.power for the Welsh government and the Welsh assembly. You all say you

:26:54. > :26:57.are disappointed with this Queen 's speech, do you really want to bring

:26:58. > :27:03.this government down, do you really want another general election? Yes,

:27:04. > :27:11.I want a Labour government. Jeremy Corbyn, you have kissed and made up?

:27:12. > :27:16.Chemmy definitely. I want to see on Northern Ireland, we have to be

:27:17. > :27:19.conscious of the fact that the politics of Westminster cannot

:27:20. > :27:23.inhibit the peace process. Talking about parity between the treatment

:27:24. > :27:27.Northern Ireland gets in other parts of the UK is not what we have done

:27:28. > :27:32.in the past and we need to be careful that Northern Ireland is a

:27:33. > :27:36.special case. Back to Jeremy Corbyn who you tried to prevent from being

:27:37. > :27:41.leader, you are clearly big friends and you want him to be Prime

:27:42. > :27:45.Minister now, you want the election tomorrow? I want a Labour government

:27:46. > :27:51.and Jeremy Corbyn as Prime Minister, if they can have that tomorrow I

:27:52. > :27:56.will be a happy man. Are you up for another election now? I think if we

:27:57. > :27:59.went on the street nobody would be looking for another election but I

:28:00. > :28:02.am concerned that both of the Unionist parties have no clear

:28:03. > :28:08.vision of what is best for Wales which is the Buddhist area in the

:28:09. > :28:16.UK. Would you rather Jeremy Corbyn or Theresa May? I have little faith

:28:17. > :28:23.in either. Our job as Plaid Cymru is to get the best deal for Wales. You

:28:24. > :28:29.would rather the Tories and Labour? I want the best deal for Wales. Who

:28:30. > :28:37.would you prefer? The Labour Party is doing a lot of shape shifting, it

:28:38. > :28:41.is not clear on the Brexit it once so one of our aims will be to make

:28:42. > :28:47.sure we get the very best possible outcome on the European issue.

:28:48. > :28:54.Finally in a word, how long will Theresa May be Prime Minister? As

:28:55. > :28:58.long as she can keep her party with her but I don't think it will be all

:28:59. > :29:04.that long. I think it will be longer than people are hoping. No idea but

:29:05. > :29:07.one thing recent events have showed me is to expect the unexpected.

:29:08. > :29:10.Thank you for joining us. If you'd like to get in touch

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