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:00:11. > :00:15.Hello and Welcome to the Week In Parliament.

:00:16. > :00:18.The Prime Minister makes the case for bombing the terror

:00:19. > :00:28.If we won't not act now when our friend and ally France has been

:00:29. > :00:31.struck in this way, then our allies in the world can be forgiven for

:00:32. > :00:41.The Labour leader raises concerns about the proposed air strikes.

:00:42. > :00:44.The question must now be whdther extending the UK bombing from Iraq

:00:45. > :00:46.to Syria is likely to reducd or increase that threat.

:00:47. > :00:49.And as the Chancellor outlines his spending review, he pulls a tax

:00:50. > :00:56.I've listened to the concerns, I hear and understand them.

:00:57. > :00:59.Because I have been able to announce an improvement in the public

:01:00. > :01:02.finances, the simplest thing to do is not to phase these changds in,

:01:03. > :01:11.But first, a week in Westminster dominated by defence and Labour s

:01:12. > :01:17.It began on Monday with the Prime Minister setting out

:01:18. > :01:19.the national security stratdgy and plans for defence spendhng over

:01:20. > :01:24.He focused on counter-terrorism with the announcement that tp to

:01:25. > :01:28.10,000 troops could be deployed in the event of a Paris-style

:01:29. > :01:39.At its heart is an understanding that we cannot choose betwedn

:01:40. > :01:41.conventional defences against state-based threat on the one hand,

:01:42. > :01:44.or to counter threats that do not recognise national borders.

:01:45. > :01:53.Today we face both types of threat and must respond to both types.

:01:54. > :01:55.David Cameron also confirmed an extra ?12 billion of spending on

:01:56. > :01:58.defence equipment, which included two squadrons of F-35 jets for the

:01:59. > :02:01.Royal Navy's aircraft carridrs and nine new maritime patrol aircraft.

:02:02. > :02:17.And two new "strike brigades" will be created by 2025.

:02:18. > :02:19.Security and intelligence sdrvices are the pride of our countrx.

:02:20. > :02:23.They are the finest in the world this government will make stre stay

:02:24. > :02:26.that way, and using new economic strength we will help them to keep

:02:27. > :02:29.The Labour leader said his party's own review would

:02:30. > :02:38."recognise that security is about much more than defence".

:02:39. > :02:47.We support the increased funding for security services bus the ptblic

:02:48. > :02:50.will not accept any more cuts to front line policing.

:02:51. > :02:53.The next day the SNP secured a debate on Trident.

:02:54. > :02:55.David Cameron had announced the government's commitment to

:02:56. > :02:56.the UK's nuclear deterrent in the defence review.

:02:57. > :03:08.There is no moral case for `ny state possessing weapons of mass to

:03:09. > :03:11.structuring. Possessing the wherewithal to destroy the world

:03:12. > :03:16.several times over and everxthing in it is not something to be proud of.

:03:17. > :03:17.Indeed, it is something I bdlieve to be deeply ashamed of.

:03:18. > :03:30.The nuclear deterrent works. It s deters aggression every single day.

:03:31. > :03:33.We have had many conference -- complex in the last six dec`des and

:03:34. > :03:39.not one has involved a direct conflict between nuclear st`tes Not

:03:40. > :03:40.one country under the protection of an extended nuclear armed brother

:03:41. > :03:42.has been invaded. But it is Labour's position

:03:43. > :03:44.that is more ambiguous. The Labour leader is against

:03:45. > :03:47.renewing the nuclear weapons system, It would be ludicrous to prdtend

:03:48. > :03:57.there aren't differences of opinion within the Parli`mentary

:03:58. > :04:00.Labour Party and the wider party on In the end, National Party

:04:01. > :04:03.conference and the National Policy Fortm

:04:04. > :04:04.decides what the Labour Party's approach to

:04:05. > :04:07.this will be in the future. This year's Labour Party Conference

:04:08. > :04:08.concluded there were more pressing

:04:09. > :04:10.contemporary motions to deb`te report reaffirms the party's support

:04:11. > :04:26.for the continuous deterrent. In the end the SNP motion w`s

:04:27. > :04:29.defeated by 330 votes, 264. On the Thursday and the primers delayed

:04:30. > :04:34.before MPs a detailed case for military action in Syria. Hd said he

:04:35. > :04:38.believed Britain had to strhke at the Syrian heartlands of thd terror

:04:39. > :04:42.group, Islamic State, to protect national security.

:04:43. > :04:45.Our police and security services have disrupted no fewer than seven

:04:46. > :04:53.Every one of which was either linked to Hsil

:04:54. > :04:57.I am in no doubt that it is in our national interest for action

:04:58. > :05:01.And stopping them means takhng action in Syria because it hs

:05:02. > :05:10.He said British forces had the unique capability to carry out

:05:11. > :05:14.dynamic targeted operations. us, then with

:05:15. > :05:20.our allies we should be part of that From this moral point comes

:05:21. > :05:28.a fundamental question, if we will not act now when

:05:29. > :05:32.our friend and ally France has been struck in this way, then our allies

:05:33. > :05:35.in the world could be forgiven We believe there are around 70, 00

:05:36. > :05:44.Syrian opposition fighters, principally the Free Syrian Army,

:05:45. > :05:47.who do not belong to extremhst groups and with whom we can

:05:48. > :05:59.coordinate attacks on Isil. We can't win simply

:06:00. > :06:01.from the air or purely military action alone, it requires

:06:02. > :06:03.a full political settlement. But the question is can we wait

:06:04. > :06:15.for that settlement He said there would be no vote in

:06:16. > :06:20.the House of Commons without a clear majority because he did not want a

:06:21. > :06:25.publicity coup for Islamic State. The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn

:06:26. > :06:27.announced in a letter to his MPs he could not support the Prime

:06:28. > :06:32.minister's position and votd for air strikes. But he restricted himself

:06:33. > :06:35.in the Commons to asking a number of questions of the Prime Minister

:06:36. > :06:38.whether extending the UK bombing from Iraq to Syria is

:06:39. > :06:41.likely to reduce or increasd that threat and whether it will counter

:06:42. > :06:57.or spread the terror campaign Isil is waging in the Middle East?

:06:58. > :07:00.How does he think that an extension of UK bombing will

:07:01. > :07:02.contribute to a conference of negotiated political settlement

:07:03. > :07:05.of the Syrian civil War, whhch is widely believed to be the only way

:07:06. > :07:08.to make sure of the defeat of Isil in the country?

:07:09. > :07:10.The Vienna conference last weekend was a good step forward

:07:11. > :07:14.In the light of the record of Western military intervention

:07:15. > :07:16.in recent years, including Hraq Afghanistan and Libya,

:07:17. > :07:19.does the Prime Minister accdpt that the UK bombing of Syria could risk

:07:20. > :07:29.more of what President Obam` called "unintended consequences"?

:07:30. > :07:32.I spoke to Peter Apps, Reutdrs global defence correspondent who is

:07:33. > :07:34.currently running the think,tank PS21, and to Josh Arnold-Forster,

:07:35. > :07:36.former special adviser to L`bour's defence secretary John Reid and now

:07:37. > :07:40.I began by asking Peter Apps about the move towards engagement

:07:41. > :07:53.Within Westminster there is going to be a counting of how many votes the

:07:54. > :07:56.Prime Minister thinks he has got, not just in the Conservativd party

:07:57. > :08:00.but with various Labour backbenchers. It'll be a re`l test

:08:01. > :08:06.of how persuasive Jeremy Corbyn can be. We will see how Labour shape

:08:07. > :08:09.their response. We do not know how much of a militant anti-war movement

:08:10. > :08:13.we will get and we need to know what will happen on the ground, hn

:08:14. > :08:17.Europe, or an extent of bombing it could change the narrative `nd put

:08:18. > :08:20.us in a different place. Wh`t is happening in the Labour Party now in

:08:21. > :08:26.Syria and also on their thinking on defence? There will be a lot of

:08:27. > :08:31.suspicion of what the Prime Minister had to say today. Questions will be

:08:32. > :08:36.asked to try and back up and establish how substantial is

:08:37. > :08:39.statement is. The extent to which they can be answered will play on

:08:40. > :08:45.that debate. Internally, thd Labour Party, as we know, has had ` great

:08:46. > :08:51.searching of souls about its role in conflict. What we are seeing now is

:08:52. > :08:55.a view from some in the party that we are being too reticent. That we

:08:56. > :09:00.need to step up and accept that while we may have made mist`kes it

:09:01. > :09:08.does not mean that we should stand away from these events. The likes of

:09:09. > :09:13.Mike Gates, Joe Cox, one of the key figures, what would Dan Jarvis be

:09:14. > :09:18.saying? That is a debate whhch is going on in internal in the party.

:09:19. > :09:23.In previous, under previous leaders, a line would have been set. The

:09:24. > :09:27.Shadow Cabinet would have mdt, the leader would have made his opinion

:09:28. > :09:32.known and that would have bden the end of it. But we live in dhfferent

:09:33. > :09:37.times. Jeremy Corbyn has a new style and we will see how it pans out Do

:09:38. > :09:42.you think the Labour Party hs a different party compared to what it

:09:43. > :09:45.was under Tony Blair? It is clearly a different party but also facing a

:09:46. > :09:49.different world. Under Tony Blair the United States was the

:09:50. > :09:54.pre-eminent superpower at the question was do we back the US or

:09:55. > :09:58.not? It is now a lot more dhfficult. We have a more confident Russia and

:09:59. > :10:02.China to take into account. The relationship with the White House is

:10:03. > :10:08.different. Cameron is taking a line that we should deal with Ishs first

:10:09. > :10:13.and the future President Assad is less important. Not necessarily what

:10:14. > :10:18.the State Department things. And we have got tension with Russi` and

:10:19. > :10:20.that puts questions like Trhdent and the big defence questions which are

:10:21. > :10:25.more difficult than they were 1 years ago. You mentioned Trhdent and

:10:26. > :10:32.we saw a debate on that this week in Parliament. At the moment what is

:10:33. > :10:35.Labour's thinking on that policy? I am not sure Labour has a thhnking on

:10:36. > :10:40.it. There are several good arguments. One is that strahns are

:10:41. > :10:44.rising with Russia and you need a weapon like Trident as a last

:10:45. > :10:48.resort. The other argument which is arguably valid is in a world which

:10:49. > :10:52.is getting closer to war, m`ybe Britain should get out of that game.

:10:53. > :10:56.They are both persuasive. Jdremy Corbyn is very much on one side and

:10:57. > :11:01.a large chunk of the Labour Party is on the other side. That is not

:11:02. > :11:05.limited to Labour. The Liberal Democrats have bad and even the

:11:06. > :11:10.Tories as well. The issue is, located and the GMB is in f`vour of

:11:11. > :11:17.Trident. Unite, we are not sure -- issue is difficult. There whll be an

:11:18. > :11:22.interesting dilemma if the party in the end comes down in favour of

:11:23. > :11:26.renewing the deterrent and ht is led by a prime minister that sahd he

:11:27. > :11:32.would not use it. That is an interesting challenge for the party.

:11:33. > :11:36.In the end this debate, although jobs and electro considerathons will

:11:37. > :11:41.be important, in the end it is about strategy and as Peter said, the rise

:11:42. > :11:44.of Russia, how they had beh`ved it has a singer that the impact on the

:11:45. > :11:48.internal debate in the partx as well as the broader national one. And

:11:49. > :11:51.Russia is intimately tied to the Syria conflict. How it works out in

:11:52. > :11:52.Syria will shape the Russian relationship going forward. Thank

:11:53. > :11:54.you. On Wednesday, the Chancellor

:11:55. > :11:56.delivered his Autumn Statemdnt, and Spending Review for the next five

:11:57. > :11:58.years. abandoning his planned cuts to tax

:11:59. > :12:01.credits after a better-than,expected economic forecast from the Office

:12:02. > :12:03.for Budget Responsibility. Our Parliamentary Correspondent Sean

:12:04. > :12:09.Curran was watching. George Osborne's favourite rule

:12:10. > :12:12.in politics, according to a former aide, is you have to know how

:12:13. > :12:16.to count. The numbers seemed to work

:12:17. > :12:19.in the Chancellor's favour The Commons was packed

:12:20. > :12:23.for the Autumn Statement After Mr Osborne's plans to cut

:12:24. > :12:30.tax credits were rejected bx the House of Lords and spectlation

:12:31. > :12:32.about cuts to police budgets, Statement,

:12:33. > :12:39.the Chancellor of the Exchepuer I've listened to the concerns,

:12:40. > :12:45.I hear and understand them and because I've been able to

:12:46. > :12:48.announce today an improvement in the public finances, the simplest thing

:12:49. > :12:51.to do is not to phase the changes Also time for a dig

:12:52. > :12:59.at the opposition. I have had representations

:13:00. > :13:01.from the Shadow Home Secret`ry that the

:13:02. > :13:05.police budget should be cut by 0%. But now is not the time

:13:06. > :13:07.for further police cuts. Now is the time to back

:13:08. > :13:10.our police and give them I am today announcing that

:13:11. > :13:18.there will be no cuts It emerged that there had bden

:13:19. > :13:25.an upturn So, the Chancellor had monex

:13:26. > :13:33.to spend. As a result of

:13:34. > :13:38.our commitment to those who worked hard all their lives and contributed

:13:39. > :13:47.to society, I can confirm ndxt year the basic state pension will rise

:13:48. > :13:50.by ?3.35 up to ?119.30 per week It is the biggest real

:13:51. > :13:52.terms increase to the basic 300,000 people have signed `

:13:53. > :13:57.petition arguing that no VAT should We already charge

:13:58. > :14:02.the lowest 5% rate allowabld under European law and we are comlitted to

:14:03. > :14:05.getting the EU to change its rules. Until that happens I'm going to use

:14:06. > :14:08.the ?15 million in year raised from the tampon tax to fund women's

:14:09. > :14:10.health charities We will be spending over ?5 billion

:14:11. > :14:24.on road maintenance in this parliament

:14:25. > :14:26.and thanks to the incessant lobbying of my honourable friend

:14:27. > :14:28.for Northampton North, Brit`in now Labour's Shadow Chancellor was not

:14:29. > :15:05.impressed. The fiasco over tax credits,

:15:06. > :15:08.demonstrated once and for all how The Chancellor remains commhtted to

:15:09. > :15:12.?12 billion of welfare cuts over We know where they will fall, on the

:15:13. > :15:16.most vulnerable, the poorest and Then came this, the comment on

:15:17. > :15:22.Sino-British relations. A quote from Mao, rarely done in

:15:23. > :15:25.this chamber. "We must learn to do economhc work

:15:26. > :15:36.from all who know how. "We must esteem them as teachers,

:15:37. > :15:41.learning from them, "But we must not pretend to

:15:42. > :15:47.know what we do not know." I thought it would come in handy

:15:48. > :15:51.for him in his new relationship The Shadow Chancellor liter`lly

:15:52. > :16:00.stood at the dispatch box and read out from Mao's Little Red

:16:01. > :16:05.Book. The problem is half the

:16:06. > :16:25.Shadow Cabinet have been sent Now a look at the other stories

:16:26. > :16:28.in Westminster. Usually the main parliament`ry event

:16:29. > :16:35.of the week, Prime Minister's question time was instead the

:16:36. > :16:38.warm-up act to the Autumn Statement. The Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn

:16:39. > :16:40.focused on the issue The gap between

:16:41. > :16:43.Britain's 2020 target and otr share of renewable energy is the

:16:44. > :16:50.biggest in the European union. Some of his decisions he has madd

:16:51. > :16:53.recently such as cutting support for solar panels on home and industrial

:16:54. > :16:56.projects, scrapping the Gredn Deal, cutting support from wind ttrbines,

:16:57. > :17:06.putting a new tax on renewable subsidies for diesel, is it any

:17:07. > :17:12.wonder that the chief scientistat the United Nations environmdnt

:17:13. > :17:13.programme has criticised Britain for going

:17:14. > :17:15.backwards on renewable energy? The facts paint a different picture As

:17:16. > :17:19.I said, trebling of wind power in the last Parliament. That is an

:17:20. > :17:23.enormous investment. And also he makes the point about solar panels.

:17:24. > :17:26.Of course when the cost of manufacturing solar panels plummets

:17:27. > :17:29.as it has it is right to reduce the The Northern Ireland Secret`ry urged

:17:30. > :17:36.MPs to rush through new leghslation to introduce welfare reforms

:17:37. > :17:38.in Northern Ireland to avoid the risk of the power-sharing

:17:39. > :17:45.assembly collapsing. There's been

:17:46. > :17:47.a long-running stand-off at Stormont due to the refusal of Sinn Fein and

:17:48. > :17:51.the SDLP to agree to welfard reforms But the changes will now be brought

:17:52. > :17:56.in by Westminster, along with ?585 million worth of

:17:57. > :17:59.measures to mitigate the effect on I believe that it is necessary to

:18:00. > :18:05.adopt this fast-track procedure to ensure that welfare reform hs no

:18:06. > :18:09.longer an issue which is undermining the political

:18:10. > :18:12.process in Northern Ireland as it the agreement that was reached

:18:13. > :18:28.at Stormont last Tuesday. And I believe it is necessary that

:18:29. > :18:31.we take this approach to underpin the stability and indeed

:18:32. > :18:33.the survival of power-sharing We will not be opposing this

:18:34. > :18:36.legislation as we are of the view that the dangers

:18:37. > :18:39.of an agreement not being rdached are huge with potential restoration

:18:40. > :18:43.of direct rule. And finally, in what emerged

:18:44. > :18:49.as a very personal debate, Labour's Liam Byrne explaindd to MPs

:18:50. > :18:52.why he believed the children I think in many ways this is

:18:53. > :18:56.the hardest speech I have ever made This is the first time that I have

:18:57. > :19:05.talked publicly about being And I know all too well the feeling

:19:06. > :19:14.that most children of alcoholics have as they try to wrestle with why

:19:15. > :19:18.they can't fix things, Children of alcoholics are five

:19:19. > :19:24.times more likely to develop Children of alcoholics are

:19:25. > :19:28.something like three times lore And children of alcoholics `re three

:19:29. > :19:36.times to four times more likely to Now, dimwit, twerp,

:19:37. > :19:44.miserable pipsqueak. All examples

:19:45. > :19:46.of very unparliamentary language The Labour MP John Woodcock tested

:19:47. > :19:52.the boundaries during the ddbate on Trident, when he refused to take

:19:53. > :19:55.an intervention from members I was just explaining the tdrrible,

:19:56. > :20:04.disgraceful mess that they `re making of schools

:20:05. > :20:07.in Scotland where the poorest I would have been happy to take

:20:08. > :20:18.every single one of you robots Can we have some clarificathon

:20:19. > :20:42.on whether the charming expression robot is

:20:43. > :20:51.parliamentary language or not? Yes, yes, Mr Nicolson,

:20:52. > :20:54.I was just turning over in my mind whether the description

:20:55. > :20:58.robot for a member of this House would be considered to be ddrogatory

:20:59. > :21:06.and I have come to the conclusion that in some circumstances ht might,

:21:07. > :21:17.and in some it might not. And for the moment I am concluding

:21:18. > :21:30.for my own peace of mind th`t intelligent robot and therefore

:21:31. > :21:37.for the moment I will not c`ll him But I'm sure the House will be

:21:38. > :21:40.warned that any term which hs considered in any way derog`tory

:21:41. > :21:45.of an honourable member of this House will not be allowed and I will

:21:46. > :21:51.be listening very carefully I am happy to refer to them

:21:52. > :21:58.as honourable robots 25 years ago this month

:21:59. > :22:08.the Conservative Party toppled the She had won three general elections,

:22:09. > :22:13.but had lost the confidence This weekend, BBC Parliament is

:22:14. > :22:16.marking that anniversary and looking back at the Thatcher years with one

:22:17. > :22:19.of her closest lieutenants, He is presenting an evening

:22:20. > :22:22.of programmes: leaving Downing Street after she was

:22:23. > :22:31.fired by her own party. Despite our rows she always

:22:32. > :22:34.remained a friend to me. In her latter years she had

:22:35. > :22:38.finally run out of other frhends. Airey Neave, Ian Gow, Nigel Lawson,

:22:39. > :22:42.Geoffrey Howe, Nationalised industries that once

:22:43. > :22:53.consumed wealth now create ht. Our industrial relations,

:22:54. > :22:56.once the worst The Falkland Islanders remahn

:22:57. > :23:07.British and free. But only for Blair and Brown

:23:08. > :23:13.to spend us back into debt. As

:23:14. > :23:15.a Tory party leader she reached deep into Labour's electoral territory,

:23:16. > :23:17.making tenants homeowners, As a woman she demonstrated that

:23:18. > :23:22.even 30 or 40 years ago a woman could rise to the top

:23:23. > :23:25.if she was good enough. Yet somehow she fell,

:23:26. > :23:28.demonstrating at the end th`t no man And to lose all one's friends is not

:23:29. > :23:35.a sign of strength And you can watch Tebbit on Thatcher

:23:36. > :23:46.on BBC Parliament on Saturd`y It will also be available on the BBC

:23:47. > :23:50.iPlayer. Now, time for a look

:23:51. > :23:53.at what's been happening in the Here's Kate Wonell with

:23:54. > :24:03.our countdown. Christmas is just a month away

:24:04. > :24:07.and if you are wondering wh`t to get the political but artistic `norak

:24:08. > :24:10.in your life look no further. The Jeremy Corbyn Colouring

:24:11. > :24:14.Book is now on sale. Plans for a David Cameron

:24:15. > :24:18.colouring book remain unconfirmed. For the political but shoeldss

:24:19. > :24:22.anorak, the perfect gift. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is

:24:23. > :24:27.auctioning a pair of shoes on eBay. Proceeds from the sale of hhs size

:24:28. > :24:31.11s go to the Small Steps project. Scottish opposition parties have

:24:32. > :24:35.criticised the SNP's Alex S`lmond for unveiling a portrait of him

:24:36. > :24:38.self in Edinburgh on the dax MPs The SNP says its

:24:39. > :24:44.Foreign Affairs Spokesman w`s Six ex-MPs including former

:24:45. > :24:49.Conservative leader William Hague That brings the total on thd

:24:50. > :24:57.Ermine-O-Meter to 834 and counting. And the by-election for a ndw Tory

:24:58. > :25:00.hereditary peer to sit in the Lords has been won by Lord Fairfax

:25:01. > :25:05.of Cameron. The Earl of Limerick's manifesto

:25:06. > :25:10.in verse failed to close qu`rters. Our version of a verse from the Earl

:25:11. > :25:36.of Limerick. Do join us for our daily rotnd-up

:25:37. > :25:41.of what's going on in Westmhnster. But for now, from me,

:25:42. > :25:47.Georgina Pattinson, goodbye.