04/03/2016

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:00:11. > :00:12.Hello and welcome to the Week In Parliament.

:00:13. > :00:17.As the row over our membership of the EU hots up, peers

:00:18. > :00:30.Not our local councils, not our own families or football

:00:31. > :00:32.clubs, not even your Lordships' house.

:00:33. > :00:34.Does that mean we should opt out of them, too?

:00:35. > :00:36.I have come to the conclusion that the European Union

:00:37. > :00:39.in its present form is a flawed and failing project.

:00:40. > :00:43.MPs hear calls to change the laws on prostitution.

:00:44. > :00:46.Prostitution is one of a form of violence against women

:00:47. > :00:48.but the problem is our laws do not yet

:00:49. > :00:54.And as the government announces it's pausing a bill to give more powers

:00:55. > :00:57.to the Welsh Assembly, we talk to one expert who thinks

:00:58. > :01:01.it's back to the drawing board for the Secretary of State.

:01:02. > :01:03.This is not just going to be tinkering with the draft bill,

:01:04. > :01:07.this is going to be a very significant,

:01:08. > :01:21.David Cameron has called for a respectful debate in the

:01:22. > :01:24.run-up to the EU referendum - but as the week has gone on

:01:25. > :01:27.there have been increasing signs of acrimony between the IN

:01:28. > :01:30.Those who favour leaving have accused those who want

:01:31. > :01:33.The Chancellor George Osborne is strongly in favour

:01:34. > :01:37.At the start of the week, he appeared in the Commons

:01:38. > :01:40.for Treasury questions fresh from a meeting of the G20 leading economies

:01:41. > :01:42.in China, after which finance ministers warned of a "shock"

:01:43. > :01:45.to the global economy if the UK left the EU.

:01:46. > :01:47.The Chancellor told MPs the Treasury would publish a cost-benefit

:01:48. > :01:50.analysis of the UK's continued membership -

:01:51. > :01:57.What people are asking for in this referendum campaign is a serious,

:01:58. > :01:59.sober and principled assessment from the government,

:02:00. > :02:03.And I can announce today that the Treasury will publish,

:02:04. > :02:06.before the 23rd of June, a comprehensive

:02:07. > :02:10.analysis of our membership of a reformed EU and the alternatives.

:02:11. > :02:11.It will include the long-term economic

:02:12. > :02:14.cost and benefits of EU membership and the risks associated

:02:15. > :02:19.Those who wish us to stay in the European Union say on one

:02:20. > :02:22.hand we are an insignificant and too small an economy to stand

:02:23. > :02:24.on our own, but on the other hand, if we

:02:25. > :02:27.leave the European Union, it will cause an economic meltdown

:02:28. > :02:35.Well, our argument is that we will be stronger,

:02:36. > :02:42.Next day at Prime Minister's Questions, the SNP's Westminster

:02:43. > :02:47.leader urged David Cameron to make a positive case for staying in.

:02:48. > :02:51.Millions of UK citizens live elsewhere in the European Union.

:02:52. > :02:54.European decisions have helped the environment,

:02:55. > :02:57.reducing sulphur dioxide emissions by nine tenths,

:02:58. > :03:02.relations between 28 EU member states happens often imperfectly

:03:03. > :03:06.but through dialogue and agreement, which surely is a huge improvement

:03:07. > :03:14.on confrontations and walls of the past.

:03:15. > :03:21.Will the Prime Minister concentrate on the positive

:03:22. > :03:27.arguments for EU membership and reject the approach of

:03:28. > :03:31.I think the fundamental point he makes is one

:03:32. > :03:36.But we should never forget, when we sit round a table,

:03:37. > :03:38.that just 70 years ago, these countries were

:03:39. > :03:40.murdering each other on the continent of Europe.

:03:41. > :03:42.Meanwhile, Whitehall's top mandarin tried to reassure MPs

:03:43. > :03:45.that civil servants will not refuse to pass facts and information

:03:46. > :03:47.to ministers who want to leave the European Union.

:03:48. > :03:49.Eurosceptic MPs were angry at plans to withhold some documents

:03:50. > :03:52.from ministers backing the out campaign.

:03:53. > :03:54.Appearing before the Public Administration Committee,

:03:55. > :03:58.Sir Jeremy Heywood said the job of the civil service was to support

:03:59. > :04:04.the government - so civil servants were obliged to back

:04:05. > :04:07.But, questioned by the committee's chairman, he insisted

:04:08. > :04:11.that the restrictions were very limited.

:04:12. > :04:16.Can I just clarify, why, in your letter, you said,

:04:17. > :04:19."It will not be permissible or appropriate for the civil service

:04:20. > :04:21.to support ministers who oppose the government's official

:04:22. > :04:24.position by providing briefing or speech material on this matter.

:04:25. > :04:29.This includes access to official departmental papers.

:04:30. > :04:32.Excepting papers that ministers have previously seen on issues relating

:04:33. > :04:40.to the referendum question prior to the suspension of the collective

:04:41. > :04:44.What papers do not intend them to see?

:04:45. > :04:46.So, only briefings and speech material?

:04:47. > :04:49.I can't rule out maybe other things...

:04:50. > :04:53.OK, in the Q, "They can see or commission

:04:54. > :04:55.any papers produced by the Department in the normal way

:04:56. > :04:58.except those have a bearing on the referendum question

:04:59. > :05:00.or are intended to be used in support of their

:05:01. > :05:08.That only applies to briefings and speech material?

:05:09. > :05:10.That is the material we are talking about.

:05:11. > :05:14.Facts are dealt with in a different paragraph.

:05:15. > :05:19.What a breath of fresh air. I couldn't agree more.

:05:20. > :05:23.We might be able to shorten this whole session.

:05:24. > :05:26.That would be a pleasure. It would.

:05:27. > :05:28.Meanwhile down the corridor in the Lords, peers had their chance

:05:29. > :05:32.to debate the arguments about our EU membership.

:05:33. > :05:39.Once the die is cast, there will be no turning back.

:05:40. > :05:45.We cannot leave the European Union and for economic and

:05:46. > :05:50.trade purposes be treated as if we are still in it.

:05:51. > :05:54.That is the inescapable fact of what we are facing.

:05:55. > :05:58.The case for getting out seems to me to rest on a strangely

:05:59. > :06:00.old-fashioned view of sovereignty, almost a Victorian view

:06:01. > :06:05.The days when all power rested in the nation state.

:06:06. > :06:11.I suspect there is more power resting on the global stage today

:06:12. > :06:15.that affects the lives of ordinary citizens than is invested

:06:16. > :06:20.in the institutions of the nation state, like ourselves.

:06:21. > :06:26.Not our local councils, not our own families or football

:06:27. > :06:28.clubs, not even your Lordships' house.

:06:29. > :06:31.Does that mean we should opt out of those, also?

:06:32. > :06:35.My Lords committee EU does need reform, which is why we need to be

:06:36. > :06:37.right there on the pitch as a key player, not

:06:38. > :06:48.sitting in the stands, moaning as a spectator and suffering

:06:49. > :06:53.The problem is that we are not, and cannot be, on the sidelines.

:06:54. > :06:56.Whether we like it or not, we are on, and will remain on,

:06:57. > :07:00.We therefore have a vested interest in helping to deliver

:07:01. > :07:03.I have come to the conclusion that the

:07:04. > :07:06.European Union in its present form is a flawed and failing project

:07:07. > :07:08.which is making its inhabitants poorer than they should and need

:07:09. > :07:11.be, and because it is failing, contrary

:07:12. > :07:15.to what is being said by some of your Lordships this afternoon,

:07:16. > :07:39.To which European country to re-export the most?

:07:40. > :07:43.Germany, with whom we have a huge trade deficit.

:07:44. > :07:46.The UK is the only EU member states that sells

:07:47. > :07:52.more outside the EU than to other members.

:07:53. > :07:55.The Eu, because of the conflicting demands of 28 members,

:07:56. > :07:57.have still not concluded a trade deal with the States.

:07:58. > :08:01.How much easier it would be for the UK to do it on its own?

:08:02. > :08:03.After all, Peru and Australia have such deals.

:08:04. > :08:06.To Prime Minister's Questions where the Labour leader turned

:08:07. > :08:07.to the government's promises on childcare.

:08:08. > :08:10.The Conservative manifesto pledged 30 hours of free care to working

:08:11. > :08:12.parents of three- and four-year-olds in England.

:08:13. > :08:13.Today, Mr Speaker, the National Audit Office

:08:14. > :08:16.confirms that one third of families promised 30 hours free childcare

:08:17. > :08:20.The report also warns that many childcare providers

:08:21. > :08:23.are not offering the new entitlement due to insufficient funding.

:08:24. > :08:26.There are 41,00 three-year-olds missing out

:08:27. > :08:29.on free early education as a result of this.

:08:30. > :08:33.Will the Prime Minister intervene and ensure those children get

:08:34. > :08:39.We want all these children to have the start in life

:08:40. > :08:42.they deserve and I'm glad he mentioned the National Audit

:08:43. > :08:45.Let me read some of the things it said.

:08:46. > :08:48."The department has successfully implemented entitlement to free

:08:49. > :08:50.childcare for three- and four-year-olds with almost

:08:51. > :08:54.universal take-up of hours offered to parents."

:08:55. > :08:57.David Cameron went on to ridicule what he said was Labour's

:08:58. > :09:03...his latest economic adviser, pne Mr Yanis Varoufakis!

:09:04. > :09:08.He was the Greek Finance Minister, who left his economy in ruins!

:09:09. > :09:17.That is Labour's policy in two words, " Acropolis now".

:09:18. > :09:20.The Home Affairs Committee is investigating whether it's time

:09:21. > :09:24.Some of the activities around prostitution are illegal -

:09:25. > :09:26.such as kerb-crawling or soliciting on the streets.

:09:27. > :09:29.But the act of exchanging money for sex is legal.

:09:30. > :09:34.Campaigners say the people who buy sex should be criminalised.

:09:35. > :09:37.MPs heard some powerful testimony from a woman who was a sex worker

:09:38. > :09:45.The rape and violence, is horrendous.

:09:46. > :09:53.You know, three rapes, one gang rape which happened inside.

:09:54. > :10:02.I can't fathom how any government would

:10:03. > :10:06.sanction an industry that, and the only way to...

:10:07. > :10:09.I was beaten, abused and raped by buyers.

:10:10. > :10:11.Removing them or making them a small amount,

:10:12. > :10:17.do you what I mean, does not make it more dangerous.

:10:18. > :10:20.Prostitution is one of the forms of violence against women

:10:21. > :10:24.but the problem is, our laws do not yet reflect that

:10:25. > :10:27.because overwhelmingly at present, the burden of commonality falls

:10:28. > :10:32.And I think we all agreed that that is wrong.

:10:33. > :10:34.Women who are exploited through prostitution

:10:35. > :10:39.Nobody selling sex should be criminalised for it.

:10:40. > :10:43.But what we need to do, as a society, is send a message

:10:44. > :10:46.to the minority of men in this country, because most men do not pay

:10:47. > :10:50.for sex, but we do need to send a message to that minority,

:10:51. > :10:54.that it is not acceptable way to treat another person and we know

:10:55. > :11:05.that the threat of coronal sanctions are Reiki method for discouraging

:11:06. > :11:12.-- are a key method. For discouraging

:11:13. > :11:17.But an alternative view was offered by another witness.

:11:18. > :11:19.Do you believe that we should change the law on prostitution?

:11:20. > :11:22.Do you think it is ready to be changed?

:11:23. > :11:23.Yes, I do believe the law on prostitution

:11:24. > :11:27.should be changed, but perhaps not in the manner in which the committee

:11:28. > :11:32.We, as sex workers, are seeking the right

:11:33. > :11:34.to work together for safety and in doing so,

:11:35. > :11:36.to increase our labour rights as well, as workers.

:11:37. > :11:39.At present, the sex industry is the only industry in the UK that

:11:40. > :11:43.I can think of which compels me, as a woman, to work alone

:11:44. > :11:45.and leaves me wide open to attack from predators

:11:46. > :11:48.I should just say at this point that I witnessed first

:11:49. > :11:51.hand while I was working on the street, the effects

:11:52. > :11:53.of further criminalisation In 1993 and precious police resources

:11:54. > :11:55.were driven away from looking after us to

:11:56. > :11:57.chasing down the clients and the levels of violence

:11:58. > :12:00.against sex workers went through the roof.

:12:01. > :12:03.In Ipswich in 2006, five prostitutes were murdered

:12:04. > :12:06.by Steven Wright in the space of a few months.

:12:07. > :12:11.Leading the police investigation was Detective Superintendent Alan Caton.

:12:12. > :12:15.Now retired, he thinks buying sex should be illegal.

:12:16. > :12:19.and all of the women who were working on the streets

:12:20. > :12:22.of Ipswich at the time were drug addicted.

:12:23. > :12:24.When we spoke to those women, they were

:12:25. > :12:28.Using drugs before they went out on the street

:12:29. > :12:30.in order to face what they were doing.

:12:31. > :12:37.None of the women I spoke to, certainly, would have said

:12:38. > :12:39.that was their choice, they would want to get

:12:40. > :12:44.Most of the men, when you spoke to the men, why do they do it,

:12:45. > :12:46.it's because they can do things that they

:12:47. > :12:48.These are predominantly married men, men with

:12:49. > :12:51.partners, men with children, who feel they can go out and exploit

:12:52. > :12:55.Alan Caton concluded that prostitution cannot be made safe -

:12:56. > :12:59.it was an inherently dangerous activity.

:13:00. > :13:05.on hold - after widespread criticism of the draft Wales Bill.

:13:06. > :13:09.A new Bill is now expected in the summer.

:13:10. > :13:13.The move came just ahead of Saint David's Day -

:13:14. > :13:16.when the Assembly itself was marking the tenth anniversary of its move

:13:17. > :13:32.10 years ago this week, the Queen was at Cardiff Bay to open

:13:33. > :13:34.the new Senedd building, a decade on and

:13:35. > :13:37.the issue of what powers the Welsh Labour should have

:13:38. > :13:42.On Monday the Welsh Secretary announced

:13:43. > :13:46.publication of the Welsh bill after the draft was criticised

:13:47. > :13:50.I think it is right we take the time to get the detail correct.

:13:51. > :13:53.We have had four months of vigorous and lively debate

:13:54. > :13:56.about the contents of the draft bill, it would be odd to say I am

:13:57. > :13:59.pressing ahead without making changes which a lot of people have

:14:00. > :14:03.said need to be made to make sure we get a clearer and favoured

:14:04. > :14:04.devolution settlement for the people of Wales.

:14:05. > :14:06.A contentious test for legislation will be scrapped.

:14:07. > :14:12.The list of reserve powers will be cut.

:14:13. > :14:18.The final bill will not be published before elections in May.

:14:19. > :14:23.I know no more about the Secretary of State intentions than what has

:14:24. > :14:30.appeared in the press, the Welsh Government was not

:14:31. > :14:32.informed about the content of the announcement nor

:14:33. > :14:33.was there any follow-up communication.

:14:34. > :14:37.If this to be any progress with this bill, it must be a bill made

:14:38. > :14:41.In the Commons on Tuesday, Saint David's

:14:42. > :14:46.day, one MP called for a further devolution of power,

:14:47. > :14:59.In 550 AD, at a raucous meeting of the Synod Welsh church

:15:00. > :15:01.Saint David found it difficult to make himself heard and placed

:15:02. > :15:04.a cloth on the ground from which came a raised mound

:15:05. > :15:12.This St David miracle put the village on the map

:15:13. > :15:19.long before the contemporary David of Little Britain fame.

:15:20. > :15:20.There was always the possibility of Saint

:15:21. > :15:26.David's day becoming a bank holiday in Wales.

:15:27. > :15:28.He won the right to take forward his bill but without

:15:29. > :15:34.government support, it will not become law.

:15:35. > :15:37.David Cameron was keen to give his backing to Stephen Crabb

:15:38. > :15:51.he mentioned Aston Martin opening a factory in S Wales.

:15:52. > :15:55.We will have a James Bond car made in Wales, all we need now

:15:56. > :15:58.The Secretary of State looks a bit like Russell

:15:59. > :16:04.David Cameron - with a suggestion for the new James Bond!

:16:05. > :16:07.So what was wrong with the draft Wales Bill?

:16:08. > :16:11.I spoke to academic and policy advisor, Alan Trench,

:16:12. > :16:16.who runs the blog Devolution Matters.

:16:17. > :16:19.The draft Wales Bill was published last October and it ran pretty

:16:20. > :16:22.immediately into a storm of criticism.

:16:23. > :16:26.Saying that it was unworkable in all sorts of ways.

:16:27. > :16:28.It would have meant a reduction in the

:16:29. > :16:35.It was unduly complicated and would have led to what the First Minister

:16:36. > :16:36.called an English veto for many Welsh

:16:37. > :16:42.It was the case that little of the legislation passed

:16:43. > :16:45.in the assembly in the past five years

:16:46. > :16:51.could have been passed if the new bill had been in force.

:16:52. > :16:53.So the bill is not now going to be published

:16:54. > :16:55.until May which will be after the elections,

:16:56. > :16:58.near the end of the session of Parliament, is it a problem

:16:59. > :17:05.It is not a problem, it is a problem that the Secretary

:17:06. > :17:07.of State has committed to bring it on in May

:17:08. > :17:11.rather than later because what needs to be changed is extensive.

:17:12. > :17:13.It is not clear how hard Whitehall has

:17:14. > :17:22.been thinking about those changes since October,

:17:23. > :17:24.since they realised the difficulties and realised the magnitude

:17:25. > :17:27.This will not just be tinkering with the draft bill,

:17:28. > :17:30.this will be a far reaching reconstruction.

:17:31. > :17:34.You have been told, go back to the drawing

:17:35. > :17:45.The Secretary of State is clear about most of the things which need

:17:46. > :17:48.to be done, the question is how they are done and how they affect

:17:49. > :17:50.other aspects of how devolution works and

:17:51. > :17:54.The proposition is that everything is devolved to the Welsh assembly

:17:55. > :17:58.unless it says specifically it is for Westminster?

:17:59. > :18:03.Yes, that is what the draft Bill said which causes serious problems.

:18:04. > :18:09.He will need to find a way through that.

:18:10. > :18:12.One option for that might be to schedule the powers which can't

:18:13. > :18:15.be given without consent so that if there are other powers

:18:16. > :18:17.which are left intact for the time being they

:18:18. > :18:18.can be altered by the National Assembly.

:18:19. > :18:25.The second problem will be how you deal with the territorial limits

:18:26. > :18:30.of what the National Assembly can do because the assembly will have power

:18:31. > :18:32.to legislate which may have an effect

:18:33. > :18:38.The answer to that is to say there will be a working group

:18:39. > :18:45.to look at the legal relationship between England and Wales.

:18:46. > :18:47.We will see what that working group comes up

:18:48. > :18:54.My own view has been what I call a distinct jurisdiction

:18:55. > :18:56.is the best way to resolve those difficulties.

:18:57. > :18:58.Are we edging to a situation where Wales ends up with powers

:18:59. > :19:02.which are the same as the Scottish Parliament or are we still million

:19:03. > :19:09.We're still quite a long way away from

:19:10. > :19:17.that for several reasons, one is that the which are being

:19:18. > :19:20.the powers which are being discussed still fall some way short

:19:21. > :19:24.Those have been expanded significantly

:19:25. > :19:28.Partly through the Scotland act 2012 and the Scotland

:19:29. > :19:31.In particular police and criminal justice are not

:19:32. > :19:35.There is a debate about whether they should be.

:19:36. > :19:38.It was recommended by the Silk Commission

:19:39. > :19:42.It is not part of the present discussion

:19:43. > :19:48.Is that the direction of travel and what people in Wales want?

:19:49. > :19:51.It looks like it is the direction of travel but is that

:19:52. > :20:02.Broadly speaking they are supporters of devolution and want more of it.

:20:03. > :20:05.That was indicated clearly by the referendum in March

:20:06. > :20:10.2011 which gave the assembly is present lawmaking powers.

:20:11. > :20:12.Whether they want the sort of powers that

:20:13. > :20:15.are currently being discussed for Scotland is another question.

:20:16. > :20:17.There is little support for independence

:20:18. > :20:21.Thank you very much indeed for coming into the programme.

:20:22. > :20:31.Now let's look further afield - with our countdown of the stories

:20:32. > :20:33.which have been making the news across the political

:20:34. > :20:52.asking for her Majesty to have her name changed to Crossrail.

:20:53. > :21:06.Eat your heart out Philip Davies, he is a mere

:21:07. > :21:08.South Korean lawmakers ended a filibuster

:21:09. > :21:12.Tracksuits are the hot tip for spring from London Fashion Week

:21:13. > :21:15.which is lucky for Jeremy Corbyn who said his green number

:21:16. > :21:27.Frontbenchers better keep it concise when Speaker Bercow is in charge.

:21:28. > :21:30.Sit down, long-winded and unnecessary.

:21:31. > :21:37.An entire David Bowie parody album has been made about Nicola Sturgeon.

:21:38. > :21:45.Including the sensational Patrick Harvie band.

:21:46. > :21:51.With a few of the more surreal political stories of the week!

:21:52. > :21:54.Now back to Westminster where the battle of wills

:21:55. > :21:57.over changes to some benefits payments continued.

:21:58. > :22:01.Ministers want to reduce ESA Payments to those who have been

:22:02. > :22:05.ruled unfit to work by ?30 a week for some new claimants.

:22:06. > :22:08.On Monday, peers supported a demand that the change should not go ahead

:22:09. > :22:12.until the impact on claimants' finances and mental wellbeing

:22:13. > :22:19.But when the bill went back to the Commons, ministers accused

:22:20. > :22:23.the Lords of "overstepping the mark" by seeking to delay a key element

:22:24. > :22:28.And MPs voted by a majority of 35 to remove the requirement

:22:29. > :22:38.The bill will now go back to the Lords again!

:22:39. > :22:40.In the Commons there were calls for an independent cross-party

:22:41. > :22:43.commission into how to stop young people being drawn into gangs.

:22:44. > :22:45.MPs warned that gangs are widening their net

:22:46. > :22:47.into provincial towns, that the level of violence

:22:48. > :22:49.is getting worse and gang members are getting younger.

:22:50. > :22:52.They called for a new understanding of a problem that involves complex

:22:53. > :23:00.social issues including deprivation, domestic abuse and fear.

:23:01. > :23:03.Last year we had Basildon, Grimsby, Harrow, High Wycombe,

:23:04. > :23:08.Southampton, Swindon, what is going on here?

:23:09. > :23:12.Something which was urban, and inner-city has now become

:23:13. > :23:19.incredibly suburban.

:23:20. > :23:21.Murders which were traditionally black can become white.

:23:22. > :23:23.The Health and Safety Executive has censured the Ministry of Defence

:23:24. > :23:32.over the deaths of three soldiers in 2013 on an SAS training exercise.

:23:33. > :23:34.The Executive said that, but for Crown Immunity,

:23:35. > :23:39.125 service personnel died on training exercises between 2000

:23:40. > :23:46.The armed forces minister told a commons committee deaths

:23:47. > :23:49.were often due to policy not being followed, or the wrong people

:23:50. > :23:53.I am confident sitting in front of you today

:23:54. > :23:59.although there are still inquiries going into some incidents,

:24:00. > :24:02.that where we have identified why a particular thing was not followed

:24:03. > :24:04.or why a particular individual was not conducting that aspect

:24:05. > :24:13.that those measures have been identified and are being addressed.

:24:14. > :24:16.England sports fans are going to have to stick

:24:17. > :24:18.to God Save the Queen after an attempt to bring

:24:19. > :24:26.in an English sporting anthem fell in the Commons.

:24:27. > :24:30.A Labour MP, Toby Perkins, tried to bring in a bill to give

:24:31. > :24:33.England fans a distinct rallying tune - instead of having to the use

:24:34. > :24:39.On Friday the time for debate ran out before MPs got to the bill -

:24:40. > :24:46.meaning Mr Perkins plan now stands no realistic chance of becoming law.

:24:47. > :24:48.Finally: The Government's been urged to do more to promote the "circular

:24:49. > :24:51.economy", cutting waste by repairing and recycling products rather

:24:52. > :24:55.Peers called on ministers to encourage consumers to reject

:24:56. > :25:00.the "throw away" society and cut "landfill mountains".

:25:01. > :25:08.And one had her own thrifty suggestion.

:25:09. > :25:11.Ways of doing things which may come naturally to us need to be shared

:25:12. > :25:14.with the new generation who find it easier to chuck than reuse.

:25:15. > :25:19.When I was a girl growing up before tights

:25:20. > :25:22.were invented we were taught to darn our own stockings.

:25:23. > :25:24.I now use laddered tights, clean ones, my lords,

:25:25. > :25:29.to filter pips when making marmalade.

:25:30. > :25:39.Which pithy solution brings us to the end of this edition

:25:40. > :25:41.of the programme - but do join Kristiina Cooper

:25:42. > :25:44.on Monday night at 11 for another round up of the day

:25:45. > :25:48.here at Westminster - including debate on the Policing