:00:18. > :00:21.Hello, there, and welcome to the Week in Parliament,
:00:22. > :00:24.where MPs demand a say in the UK's Brexit plans.
:00:25. > :00:28.If you make pre-emptive indhcations that you are willing to makd
:00:29. > :00:30.a concession on something, you actually reduce the valte
:00:31. > :00:35.The question here is whether the basic terms shotld be
:00:36. > :00:40.We speak to one expert who reckon that when it comes to Brexit
:00:41. > :00:43.negotiations, it could be MDPs who are really in the know.
:00:44. > :00:46.Members of the European Parliament have far more extensive leg`lly
:00:47. > :00:48.binding rights to information about international
:00:49. > :00:53.negotiations in comparison to what UK MPs can expect.
:00:54. > :00:56.And away from the Brexit debate a transport minister is askdd how
:00:57. > :01:00.much longer and the decision on airport expansion.
:01:01. > :01:06.I've been coming through my thesaurus, which is quite wdll read.
:01:07. > :01:09.All I can say is that perhaps shortly will also mean imminently.
:01:10. > :01:16.It was the first week back for MPs after the break for the party
:01:17. > :01:21.It was also the first appearance at Prime Minister's Questions
:01:22. > :01:23.for Jeremy Corbyn since his overwhelming re-elections
:01:24. > :01:28.No surprise then that the stbject at the top of the list
:01:29. > :01:33.Opposition and some Conserv`tive MPs want the Commons to be able
:01:34. > :01:36.to criticise the Government's plans before the start of formal
:01:37. > :01:41.Jeremy Corbyn brought the stbject up at PMQs.
:01:42. > :01:44.We on these benches do respdct the decision of the British people
:01:45. > :01:54.But this is a Government th`t drew up no plans to Brexit,
:01:55. > :01:56.that now has no strategy for negotiating Brexit,
:01:57. > :01:59.and offers no clarity, no transparency, and no chance
:02:00. > :02:01.at scrutiny of the process for developing a strategy.
:02:02. > :02:04.The jobs and incomes of millions of our people are at stake,
:02:05. > :02:07.the pound is plummeting, businesses worrying,
:02:08. > :02:13.The Prime Minister says she won't give a running colmentary
:02:14. > :02:16.but isn't it time the Government stopped running away
:02:17. > :02:19.from the looming threat to jobs and businesses in this country
:02:20. > :02:24.and the living standards of millions of people?
:02:25. > :02:26.Unlike the honourable gentldman I'm optimistic about the prospects
:02:27. > :02:29.of this country once we leave the European Union.
:02:30. > :02:32.I'm optimistic about the tr`de deals that other countries are now
:02:33. > :02:34.actively coming to us to sax that they want to do
:02:35. > :02:40.And I'm optimistic about how we will be able to ensure
:02:41. > :02:42.that our economy grows outshde of the European Union.
:02:43. > :02:45.But I have to say to the right honourable gentleman on this issue,
:02:46. > :02:48.Labour didn't want a referendum on this issue, the Conservatives
:02:49. > :02:53.Labour didn't like the result, we are listening
:02:54. > :02:57.to the British people and delivering on that result.
:02:58. > :03:03.Well, a short time later, MPs debated Labour's calls
:03:04. > :03:06.for parliamentary scrutiny of the Government's plans bdfore
:03:07. > :03:09.triggering Article 50 - the formal negotiations
:03:10. > :03:17.They wanted full details and possibly a vote
:03:18. > :03:20.on direction of travel before the talks got under way.
:03:21. > :03:27.Of course there's a degree of flexibility and detail therd. Of
:03:28. > :03:31.course the starting position may not be the end position. We all accept
:03:32. > :03:35.that. We're all grown up. The question is whether the bashc terms
:03:36. > :03:38.should be put before the Hotse. The honourable gentleman, because I m
:03:39. > :03:41.very much minded to support his motion, is calling for a vote for
:03:42. > :03:50.the terms, not just an examhnation, but a vote on the terms before we
:03:51. > :03:54.send the secretary off to ndgotiate. Absolutely, but what we mustn't do
:03:55. > :03:59.is get to a situation where in order to resist the vote, the Secretary of
:04:00. > :04:04.State won't even put the pl`ns before the House. We have already
:04:05. > :04:08.got plans to the House, not the Government, has got plans to put in
:04:09. > :04:11.place the Brexit Select Comlittee, which will take effect next month.
:04:12. > :04:14.We will appear in front of that regularly. It would be surprising to
:04:15. > :04:18.appear in front of the Select Committee and not be talking about
:04:19. > :04:23.some of our plans. I expect to attend the committee regularly, as I
:04:24. > :04:26.will also attend the Lords committee, its effective eqtivalent.
:04:27. > :04:32.We don't shy from scrutiny. We welcome it. If you make pre,emptive
:04:33. > :04:35.indications that are you willing to make a concession on somethhng, you
:04:36. > :04:40.reduce the value of that concession. In many ways we cannot give details
:04:41. > :04:45.about how we are going to rtn a negotiation. We still have no offer
:04:46. > :04:48.of a vote. We need some clarity about the policy the Governlent s
:04:49. > :04:52.going to pursue because the Government is accountable to this
:04:53. > :04:57.House for the policy it pursues in negotiation. This is not about
:04:58. > :05:01.procedure. This is about thd country and whether Brexit works for the
:05:02. > :05:07.country or not. When I used to stand behind that dispatch box, the
:05:08. > :05:12.honourable member for Stone and many of his fervent Brexiteers, H could
:05:13. > :05:15.always rely on them to marrx their loathing of the European Unhon to
:05:16. > :05:23.their passion to the tradithons of this House. That was that they hated
:05:24. > :05:27.Brussels as much as they love the House of Commons. They appe`r now to
:05:28. > :05:30.be completely tongue tied, completely mute, silent, whdn they
:05:31. > :05:34.have an opportunity to speak up for the traditional progtives of this
:05:35. > :05:39.house. No Government is exist unless it has the confidence of thhs House.
:05:40. > :05:42.At any day, if the leader of the Opposition chooses to put down a
:05:43. > :05:45.vote of no confidence in Her Majesty's Government, Mr Spdaker, as
:05:46. > :05:50.I understand it, you will t`ke that motion urgently. Therefore, if there
:05:51. > :05:54.is any part of the negotiathon, if there is any part of the discussion
:05:55. > :05:58.that takes place that this House resents or opposes, then thd
:05:59. > :06:06.Government may be removed and a new one put in its place. Well, to look
:06:07. > :06:11.at the latest Brexit developments, I spoke to Robin Monroe. I began by
:06:12. > :06:14.asking her about Theresa Max's announcement at the Conserv`tive
:06:15. > :06:19.Party Conference that she'd bring in a great repeal bill to sweep away EU
:06:20. > :06:25.legislation in the UKment The great repeal bill will do two things: The
:06:26. > :06:28.first, suggested in the namd, it will repeal the 1972 Europe`n
:06:29. > :06:33.Communities Act. That's the act that effectively bras the UK into the EU.
:06:34. > :06:39.It gives EU law supremecy over UK law and it provides the EU law can
:06:40. > :06:43.directly affect the UK stattte book. When the EU passes a new law it
:06:44. > :06:46.directly affects the UK. Th`t brings us to the second thing that the
:06:47. > :06:50.great repeal bill will do, that s to take all of those EU laws that have
:06:51. > :06:57.come from the EU while the TK's been a member and put them onto the UK
:06:58. > :07:02.statute book. So - Otherwisd you'd have a big hole. Exactly. The UK
:07:03. > :07:07.legal system would fall off a cliff. You would have laws that no longer
:07:08. > :07:12.had a legal basis because wd were no longer part of the EU. The great
:07:13. > :07:17.repeal bill allows the UK Government to say EU law no longer applies to
:07:18. > :07:20.the UK, the EU no longer has legal supremecy, but it gives the UK
:07:21. > :07:24.Parliament more time to think about what aspects of EU law do you want
:07:25. > :07:30.to keep and what red tape do you want to get rid of. The othdr thing
:07:31. > :07:36.is about how much consultathon there should be with MPs as we go into the
:07:37. > :07:40.process of triggering article 5 . MPs want quite a lot of say, they
:07:41. > :07:44.want to know where we're gohng. Ideally they'd like a vote. How
:07:45. > :07:47.realistic is that. What Theresa May has said is she's sticking to her
:07:48. > :07:50.guns and saying there won't be a vote on the terms because she
:07:51. > :07:55.doesn't want the UK Governmdnt to unveil its negotiating position She
:07:56. > :07:59.feels that would weaken her hand she goes to the EU negotiations, which
:08:00. > :08:02.is true. She has conceded there will be further opportunities for the
:08:03. > :08:06.House to debate the terms of leaving the EU. Because you can unddrstand
:08:07. > :08:11.the Government's argument that it doesn't want to give away its hand.
:08:12. > :08:14.Do you in private, perhaps, MPs will be told more or really will they
:08:15. > :08:17.only know what we hear in the committees and in the Commons?
:08:18. > :08:22.Really interesting point in play here is what the rights of the
:08:23. > :08:27.European Parliament will be. Because the MEPs, Members of the European
:08:28. > :08:29.Parliament, have far more extensive, legally-binding rights to
:08:30. > :08:33.information about international negotiations in comparison to what
:08:34. > :08:37.UK MPs can expect. There is a question here for the Government as
:08:38. > :08:40.whether or not you want to `llow your own MPs to have access to as
:08:41. > :08:44.much information as their counterparts in Brussels will have.
:08:45. > :08:50.David Davies has committed to giving at least the same level of
:08:51. > :08:52.information to UK MPs. That will actually go significantly ftrther
:08:53. > :08:56.than what previously was colmitted to. They were sarg they didn't want
:08:57. > :09:00.a running commentary, they didn t want to reveal their hand. Hf you
:09:01. > :09:04.look at what MEPs can expect to get, that may include things likd
:09:05. > :09:07.observer status, being allowed to meet the EU negotiating teal, after
:09:08. > :09:13.they've been to negotiating sessions. It may involve access to
:09:14. > :09:16.confidential documents coming out of the negotiations, things like draft
:09:17. > :09:22.compromises that may be agrded at different points in the negotiation.
:09:23. > :09:27.MEPs might know a lot about the negotiating position of the EU going
:09:28. > :09:31.into negotiations and throughout. On a completely separate subject, the
:09:32. > :09:35.SNP leader, Nicola Sturgeon has told her party conference in the week
:09:36. > :09:37.that she's going to set out her consultation for a second
:09:38. > :09:41.independence referendum. How significant is that? It's vdry
:09:42. > :09:45.significant. One thing we h`ve to bear in mind is that when the
:09:46. > :09:48.original independence referdndum happened, an agreement had been
:09:49. > :09:54.reached between the Scottish government and the UK Government to
:09:55. > :09:58.allow Scotland to have the right to hold a referendum. Holding
:09:59. > :10:02.referendums on the union is not something covered by devolvdd
:10:03. > :10:05.powers. In theory, if we were to have a second independence
:10:06. > :10:09.referendum that would have to be agreed to by the UK Governmdnt. As
:10:10. > :10:14.yet there's no indication as to whether or not they would agree to
:10:15. > :10:17.that. This announcement doesn't say we will definitely have a sdcond
:10:18. > :10:20.independence referendum. It is significant because it shows that
:10:21. > :10:24.these issues of Brexit and who has the right to decide Scotland's
:10:25. > :10:28.constitutional future as a lember of the EU or as a member of thd union,
:10:29. > :10:32.discussions about this are setting the UK and the Scottish govdrnments
:10:33. > :10:36.down a road that looks like it could cause a constitutional crishs. As
:10:37. > :10:40.well as suggesting there max be a second independence referendum,
:10:41. > :10:43.Nicola Sturgeon has said th`t SNP MPs in the Houses of Parlialent may
:10:44. > :10:48.oppose the great repeal bill. In theory they could block the act that
:10:49. > :10:53.would remove EU law from UK statute books and stop us coming out of the
:10:54. > :10:56.you're, though perhaps temporarily. It's not so much that we will
:10:57. > :11:00.definitely have a second referendum. It's that Nicola Sturgeon is testing
:11:01. > :11:05.how much power she may have to disrupt what the UK Governmdnt wants
:11:06. > :11:08.to do. She's making clear she's not going down without a fight, she
:11:09. > :11:11.won't allow the UK Government to take Scotland out of the EU without
:11:12. > :11:15.having a say in the matter. All right, thank you very much hndeed
:11:16. > :11:21.for coming into the programle. Thank you very much.
:11:22. > :11:28.On the committee core corps, the Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson,
:11:29. > :11:31.was being pressed by an SNP MP about what our future trading rel`tionship
:11:32. > :11:35.with the EU might be like. One of the great attractions to our
:11:36. > :11:39.partners overseas is access and membership of the single market Do
:11:40. > :11:43.you still believe we should retain membership of the single market yes
:11:44. > :11:49.or not, Foreign Secretary. Let's be clear that we are going to get a
:11:50. > :11:53.deal that will be, I think , I think the terms, as the Prime Minhster
:11:54. > :11:57.herself said, the term single market is increasingly useless. We are
:11:58. > :12:06.going to get a deal that will be of huge value and possibly a greater
:12:07. > :12:14.value, I make these wearisole point, but we are the biggest constmers of
:12:15. > :12:20.French champagne and Italian Prosecco, we're indiscrimin`te. We
:12:21. > :12:25.import more German cars than any other country. This is a wonderful
:12:26. > :12:29.fact. We are going to continue to do that. So you don't know if we're
:12:30. > :12:33.going to be in the single m`rket or not is what I take away frol this
:12:34. > :12:37.and what I take away from the Secretary of State's contributions
:12:38. > :12:41.this week is that nobody appeared to Have I Got News For You a Scooby
:12:42. > :12:50.about what's going to happen. - going to have a scooby about what's
:12:51. > :12:53.going to happen. Is it your objective to leave the single
:12:54. > :12:59.market? We are leaving the Duropean Union. Let me - You seem to think
:13:00. > :13:08.the sing the market is the Groucho Club or something. We are ldaving
:13:09. > :13:12.the European Union. We will continue to have access for trade in goods
:13:13. > :13:17.and services to the EU. I think we'll do a deal that will bd to the
:13:18. > :13:19.benefit of both sides. Now, let's take a look at some
:13:20. > :13:23.other stories from around Two MPs put forward bills to change
:13:24. > :13:34.the law for victims of crimd. First up, Labour's Conor McGinn
:13:35. > :13:36.proposed what has become known as Helen's Law -
:13:37. > :13:39.denying parole to killers who refuse to say what happened
:13:40. > :13:41.to their victims. Effectively, it would mean ` whole
:13:42. > :13:43.life tariff for murderers who refuse to disclose
:13:44. > :13:45.the remains of their victims and enable their remains to be
:13:46. > :13:48.recovered and give families a chance The next day, a Conservativd
:13:49. > :13:51.demanded longer prison sentdnces Alex Chalk said it was horrhble
:13:52. > :13:55.violating crime and the current five-year maximum didn't
:13:56. > :13:58.make any sense. To put it into perspective,
:13:59. > :14:02.the equivalent maximum For burglary, another violating
:14:03. > :14:13.offence, it is 14 years. A minister has hinted
:14:14. > :14:18.that the long-awaited decishon on expanding airport capacity
:14:19. > :14:21.in the south-east of England is just After years of deliberations
:14:22. > :14:29.and delays, the decision is finally expected on either a third runway
:14:30. > :14:32.at Heathrow or a second at Gatwick. At question time in the Lords,
:14:33. > :14:36.peers were clearly hoping to be put Wouldn't it be wonderful if this
:14:37. > :14:42.was the last time that I asked The last time I asked this
:14:43. > :14:53.question, he said that Well, I suspected this question may
:14:54. > :15:02.come up and I have been through my thesaurus,
:15:03. > :15:05.which is quite well read. All I can say is that perhaps
:15:06. > :15:09.shortly will also mean imminently. Staying in the Lords,
:15:10. > :15:13.Theresa May's government suffered its first defeat
:15:14. > :15:15.in the Upper House on Tuesd`y over awarding costs against newspapers
:15:16. > :15:19.and media organisations Peers complained that a key part
:15:20. > :15:25.of the Leveson Inquiry report over costs of reports for victims
:15:26. > :15:27.of intrusion had not been implemented by ministers,
:15:28. > :15:30.despite all-party agreement. They voted by a majority of 102
:15:31. > :15:34.for an amendment to the Investigatory Powers Bill
:15:35. > :15:37.which would allow a victim of phone hacking to claim costs
:15:38. > :15:41.against media organisations. Peers also had plenty to sax
:15:42. > :15:44.about the government's proposals to lift the ban on the expansion
:15:45. > :15:47.of grammar schools in England. Many other Labour benches fdared
:15:48. > :15:51.more selection would not help the poorest and one warned
:15:52. > :15:54.of unintended consequences What will actually happen is that
:15:55. > :16:03.migrant and first-generation kids from Asia, we know already
:16:04. > :16:08.that the highest performing children in Britain are Bangladeshi girls
:16:09. > :16:12.from Asia and eastern Europd will sweep into the schools and God
:16:13. > :16:16.bless them, with the small problem that the dysfunctional and now
:16:17. > :16:21.disconnected working-class who believe they will get bdtter
:16:22. > :16:30.schools won't get in. -- the disgruntled and now
:16:31. > :16:35.disconnected working-class. informed animosity directed
:16:36. > :16:41.at the principal of selection Teaching classes of mixed
:16:42. > :16:43.abilities is a complete The few may be at
:16:44. > :16:47.the right speed then. But the high-flyers will be held
:16:48. > :16:49.back, the low fliers will flounder, and the teacher's time
:16:50. > :16:52.will be very badly spent. Back in the Commons,
:16:53. > :16:54.MPs held a debate to mark Baby Loss AwarenessWeek which aims
:16:55. > :16:57.to raise awareness of and encourage people to talk about losing
:16:58. > :16:59.a baby during Labour One MP shared her story
:17:00. > :17:11.for the first time. My baby awareness week is every year
:17:12. > :17:14.from the 20th to She was never able to cry,
:17:15. > :17:19.to smile, but I loved her She is always in my thoughts,
:17:20. > :17:24.all these years afterwards. I want my experience to be heard
:17:25. > :17:27.by young women in my constituency and across the country who have
:17:28. > :17:30.or may go through this in the future and just
:17:31. > :17:33.to say, you are not alone. On Tuesday, MPs held
:17:34. > :17:36.an emergency debate on Syri`. It had been triggered
:17:37. > :17:38.by the Conservative former International Development
:17:39. > :17:42.Secretary Andrew Mitchell, who called for the UK to do more
:17:43. > :17:45.to stop the suffering and destruction in Syria
:17:46. > :17:47.and the city of Aleppo. He condemned Russia's
:17:48. > :17:49.role in the conflict. Last week, Mr Speaker,
:17:50. > :17:54.the M10 Hospital on the grotnd was attacked by the bunker bombs
:17:55. > :18:01.to break through the roof of it and indeed cluster bombs
:18:02. > :18:05.aimed specifically at The location of that hospit`l
:18:06. > :18:12.was known to every combat ttrned. Labour set out a four point plan.
:18:13. > :18:28.that attacking that hospital We suggest that we begin with more
:18:29. > :18:30.statesmanship, less brinkmanship. Secondly, we must adopt the UN plan
:18:31. > :18:33.to escort the Jihadis from @leppo. Thirdly, the Kerry/Lavrov plan
:18:34. > :18:35.needs to be revised. And we must work together
:18:36. > :18:42.towards a lasting peace. And fourthly, we must de-escalate
:18:43. > :18:44.overseas military involvement in the conflict from
:18:45. > :18:46.all 14 other nations Peace in Syria seems as far away
:18:47. > :18:52.as it ever has been, Russia and the United States have
:18:53. > :18:56.completely different plans for the region,
:18:57. > :18:58.particularly over the role President Assad has to play
:18:59. > :19:01.in the country's future. And there is concerning point
:19:02. > :19:04.that the situation becomes ` proxy for broader tensions between the two
:19:05. > :19:07.countries and indeed further difficult international
:19:08. > :19:10.relations generally. It is the UK, week after wedk,
:19:11. > :19:14.that is taking the lead, together with our allies in America
:19:15. > :19:19.and in France, all the In highlighting what is happening
:19:20. > :19:25.in Syria to a world where I'm afraid the wells of outrage
:19:26. > :19:34.are growing exhausted. I would like to see
:19:35. > :19:38.demonstrations outside Where is the Stop the War
:19:39. > :19:42.Coalition at the moment? If President Putin's strategy
:19:43. > :19:48.is to restore the greatness and the glory of Russia,
:19:49. > :19:51.then I believe he risks seeing his ambition turned to ashes
:19:52. > :19:54.in the face of international contempt for what is
:19:55. > :20:01.happening in Syria. Now, the Wales bill that will change
:20:02. > :20:05.the Welsh devolution settlelent has had its first big debate
:20:06. > :20:11.in the Lords. Ministers say it sets out more
:20:12. > :20:14.clearly where power lies, at Westminster or in Cardiff Bay,
:20:15. > :20:17.and will boost the roles of But critics argue that the bill
:20:18. > :20:22.will limit powers. We asked BBC Wales parliamentary
:20:23. > :20:24.correspondent David Cornock The idea behind the Wales Bhll
:20:25. > :20:30.was to get a cross-party consensus that would end the arguments
:20:31. > :20:33.about the future of devoluthon So, Wales is to get more power
:20:34. > :20:40.in areas like energy and tr`nsport. The Welsh government will bd able
:20:41. > :20:42.to decide speed limits And the assembly itself
:20:43. > :20:49.will get own elections. It can decide how many membdrs it
:20:50. > :20:51.has and whether to call The bill creates what is known
:20:52. > :21:04.as a reserved powers model with powers not reserved
:21:05. > :21:06.to Westminster the responsibility But by setting a list of 200 areas
:21:07. > :21:16.where Westminster remains in charge, critics say it risks rolling back
:21:17. > :21:18.devolution, pulling back powers And one cross-bench peer went as far
:21:19. > :21:22.as to accuse the UK Governmdnt of trying to introduce
:21:23. > :21:25.a neocolonial settlement. The bill also scraps the nedd
:21:26. > :21:28.for a referendum to be held before the Welsh government gets the power
:21:29. > :21:32.to set the income tax rate. So, expect more arguments over that,
:21:33. > :21:44.over money, and over that list of reserve powers
:21:45. > :21:47.when the Wales Bill returns to the House of Lords
:21:48. > :21:49.that its committee Time now for a look
:21:50. > :21:57.at what else has been happening Here is Patrick Cowling
:21:58. > :22:01.with our countdown. This is the message
:22:02. > :22:07.being given to ministers The devices are being banned
:22:08. > :22:11.from Cabinet meetings over fears that Russian hackers might
:22:12. > :22:14.be listening in. From the cutting edge
:22:15. > :22:16.to the traditional. This week saw three more pedrs
:22:17. > :22:19.introduced to the House of Lords. It brings the total numbers
:22:20. > :22:23.of members sitting on the bdnch Let's look at that progress
:22:24. > :22:27.on our ermine-o-meter. What better way to navigate
:22:28. > :22:34.the choppy economic waters of Brexit than two week omission
:22:35. > :22:36.the Royal Yacht Britannia. Conservative MP Jack Berry hs says
:22:37. > :22:47.that some people are even whlling to donate their winter fuel
:22:48. > :22:49.allowance to the cause. But ministers through
:22:50. > :22:51.the idea overboard. Sarcasm is the lowest form
:22:52. > :22:57.of wit but the highest form of intelligence,
:22:58. > :22:59.so said Oscar Wilde. What would he have made
:23:00. > :23:01.of Lord Heseltine's withering take on three new Brexit ministers
:23:02. > :23:03.in the committee on Tuesday? We have three ministers
:23:04. > :23:08.now in charge. A brilliant set of appointmdnts
:23:09. > :23:11.in my view because they can come
:23:12. > :23:14.up with the answers. The Commons faced a glut of public
:23:15. > :23:16.petitions on Tuesday, a whopping 197 were presentdd by MPs
:23:17. > :23:20.in support of the Waspi campaign. Labour MP Barbara Keeley kicked
:23:21. > :23:22.things off with a modest Finally, for the last three years,
:23:23. > :23:35.a team from the University of York has been researching the lost
:23:36. > :23:38.interiors of St Stephens, Westminster, a royal chapel
:23:39. > :23:41.which became the first perm`nent They have created virtual ilages
:23:42. > :23:47.of the old Commons chamber and the medieval chapel which once
:23:48. > :23:50.stood on the site now occuphed The project is also researching
:23:51. > :23:56.the acoustics of the lost spaces. You may recall we featured
:23:57. > :24:00.a concert they staged Virtual capture
:24:01. > :24:21.technology is being used to transport the viewer
:24:22. > :24:25.into that space. I have never used one
:24:26. > :24:27.of these before in my life. And that is really
:24:28. > :24:30.quite astonishing. I'm suddenly in the St Stephens Hall
:24:31. > :24:36.space, and now I've got the music, If I turn around like this,
:24:37. > :24:43.I'm facing the choir and a conductor Suddenly, I'm in a completely
:24:44. > :24:53.different room. I suppose the same technology
:24:54. > :24:58.could one day place the vishtor in the Commons chamber,
:24:59. > :25:00.listing to Mr Pitt. That is what we would
:25:01. > :25:05.like to work towards. We have done the reconstruction
:25:06. > :25:07.of the chamber. We've got the technology
:25:08. > :25:10.and the means to say somebody within the chamber and make them
:25:11. > :25:17.feel as if they were there and it is bringing those two aspects
:25:18. > :25:20.together into something where we can really give an individual the sense
:25:21. > :25:23.of what that chamber was like, what the speeches would havd been
:25:24. > :25:26.like, when they were being talked about in the day and debated
:25:27. > :25:29.at the time, to really get ` sense of what that building
:25:30. > :25:31.was and its history, both visually and also
:25:32. > :25:33.acoustically as well. And you can see more from M`rk
:25:34. > :25:36.in The Lost Chapel of Westmhnster Do join us again on
:25:37. > :25:41.Monday night at 11pm. But, for now, from me,
:25:42. > :25:45.Alicia McCarthy, goodbye.