:00:00. > :00:09.Tonight, climb aboard the This Week scooter for a late-night political
:00:10. > :00:10.joy ride. A French President, a beautiful actress, and an oversized
:00:11. > :00:17.crash helmet. joy ride. A French President,
:00:18. > :00:22.Francois Hollande's private life is under scrutiny. Frenchman and
:00:23. > :00:32.footballing grand fromage, David Ginola, revs his engine. This week,
:00:33. > :00:37.the eyes of the world have been on my home country, France. The French
:00:38. > :00:41.president has been experiencing difficulty.
:00:42. > :00:44.Back on the streets of Westminster, MPs are under attack for spending
:00:45. > :00:53.taxpayer money on having their portraits painted. The Sun's Jane
:00:54. > :00:56.Moore, gets out her paintbrushes. Renaissance man Ed Miliband wants to
:00:57. > :01:00.paint a picture of himself as a man of all the people, taking on the cap
:01:01. > :01:05.Mac city, but written's banking boss has given him the brushoff.
:01:06. > :01:08.And if you thought slavery had been abolished years ago, it's time to
:01:09. > :01:11.think again about the modern day slave trade. Action hero journalist
:01:12. > :01:18.Ross Kemp reports back from the front line. The fact is, there are
:01:19. > :01:24.more slaves in the world today than there ever have been.
:01:25. > :01:33.Allo, allo. Did you order a large one with extra hot chillies?
:01:34. > :01:37.Evenin' all. Welcome to This Week, a week in which the world just got
:01:38. > :01:40.stranger, especially in Paris. A week in which, if you open your
:01:41. > :01:44.front door to somebody in a motorcycle helmet, you can't be sure
:01:45. > :01:49.if it's the pizza delivery boy or the President of France. And if a
:01:50. > :01:53.large man with a gun enters your bedroom in the morning, you don't
:01:54. > :01:56.know if you're about to be robbed or he's just delivering the coffee and
:01:57. > :01:59.croissants. A week in which it was not Mr Hollande's affair with an
:02:00. > :02:02.actress that caused French consternation but the fact he used a
:02:03. > :02:05.three-wheeled scooter to get to his liaisons dangereuse. Now that really
:02:06. > :02:09.did undermine the dignity of the republic. Mind you, it's been just
:02:10. > :02:12.as strange on this side of La Manche. Obviously you'd never shell
:02:13. > :02:18.out ?11,500 of your own hard-earned money for this.
:02:19. > :02:25.But actually, you did! In fact you've shelled out ?250,000 for MPs
:02:26. > :02:29.to have their portraits painted at the taxpayers' expense. Clever of
:02:30. > :02:30.the artist, however, to catch Mona Diane just as she'd been handed the
:02:31. > :02:42.bill at Annabel's. Speaking of those who are no oil
:02:43. > :02:46.paintings, I'm joined on the sofa tonight by a late night affair that
:02:47. > :02:51.breaks all our hearts. Think of them as the First Lady and First Mistress
:02:52. > :02:53.of late night political chat. I speak, of course, of
:02:54. > :03:06.#sadmanonatrain, Michael Portillo, and #baffled, Diane Abbott. Your
:03:07. > :03:11.moment of the week? For the second week in a row, my moment is provided
:03:12. > :03:15.by Robert Gates, who used to be Defence Secretary of the United
:03:16. > :03:20.States. This week he said he regrets that Britain has put itself in a
:03:21. > :03:25.place where it can no longer provide defence across the spectrum, in a
:03:26. > :03:29.billing it to co-operate with the United States across the spectrum.
:03:30. > :03:35.This has been met with denials in the UK but it seems to me to be a
:03:36. > :03:38.statement of the obvious. Actually, going back to our performance in
:03:39. > :03:43.Basra and in Helmand province, it seems the Americans have concluded
:03:44. > :03:48.we do not have capability across the spectrum. In those cases, our main
:03:49. > :03:51.problem was we did not have enough troop 's. It seems paradoxical that
:03:52. > :03:56.the response of the government has been to cut savagely the number of
:03:57. > :04:00.troops that we have. I thought Robert Gates was speaking nothing
:04:01. > :04:06.less than the truth. Interesting coming from you as a former Defence
:04:07. > :04:12.Secretary. On my painting, it was painted ten years ago and I did not
:04:13. > :04:17.ask to have my portrait painted. You do not look a day older. Actually,
:04:18. > :04:22.it is worth a lot more than ?11,000 now. That is what the House of
:04:23. > :04:27.Commons arts committee told me yesterday. Paintings are the only
:04:28. > :04:31.things the House of Commons spends money on that appreciates in value.
:04:32. > :04:36.However, my moment of the week was today, and George Osborne saying he
:04:37. > :04:40.supports a rise in the minimum wage. It is a reversal of the historic
:04:41. > :04:45.Tory position, but it also shows they are deadly serious about
:04:46. > :04:48.winning the next election. Lots of things from Labour and the Tories
:04:49. > :04:51.now are dubious economics and very good politics.
:04:52. > :04:55.Now, President Hollande gave a two-and-a-half-hour press conference
:04:56. > :04:57.this week. It was carried live on news channels because of their
:04:58. > :05:04.commitment to covering French economic policy. But since most of
:05:05. > :05:09.you have the attention of a gnat we know few of you watched it in its
:05:10. > :05:13.entirety. So in the spirit of public service, for which this show is
:05:14. > :05:16.famed, we have prepared a precis. That's a French word, you know. Here
:05:17. > :05:20.it is. "Monsieur le President, are you
:05:21. > :05:24.shagging that actress"? "No comment".
:05:25. > :05:30."All right. Let's talk about the economy. Why is it a basket case"?
:05:31. > :05:34."OK. I am shagging zat actress". You get the gist, or le fin mot, as
:05:35. > :05:37.they say in France. But maybe something's been lost in
:05:38. > :05:38.translation. So we turned to famous French footballer David Ginola. This
:05:39. > :05:59.is his take of the week. This week, the eyes of the world
:06:00. > :06:09.have been on my home country, France. French President Francois
:06:10. > :06:18.Hollande has said he is experiencing difficult times, and he can't
:06:19. > :06:24.understand that, and especially in his private life. As a foot taller
:06:25. > :06:29.macro, it does not matter for the fans if I am having in my private
:06:30. > :06:36.life some problems as far as my foot or is concerned and the results are
:06:37. > :06:40.life -- the results are right. And as a politician, it should be the
:06:41. > :06:49.same. It should be exact me the same.
:06:50. > :07:02.At the moment, we live in a crisis period in the entire world.
:07:03. > :07:10.Politicians should be judged by the things they do to change that, and
:07:11. > :07:14.to make a better world, and not being judged by the things they do
:07:15. > :07:20.outside their job. We all do mistakes. I do mistakes. People do
:07:21. > :07:27.mistakes. Our president in France does mistake is, but I don't see why
:07:28. > :07:33.it should be seen as mistakes. If he does love someone else, it is part
:07:34. > :07:39.of life. You can have the right to love someone else. People shouldn't
:07:40. > :07:48.be aware about his private life. But, having said that, you can't ask
:07:49. > :07:52.able to deny the fact that they want to know. They want to know about
:07:53. > :08:00.it. They want to know, actually, everything. We are talking about
:08:01. > :08:08.Francois Hollande being seen all around the world, and the things he
:08:09. > :08:15.has done. I am not sure people will be really concerned. They are just
:08:16. > :08:21.concerned about, oh, strange, we did not think he was capable of doing
:08:22. > :08:27.such things. In a way, it surprised many people, even me. It surprised
:08:28. > :08:41.me a lot. But it does not mean I am looking at him in a worse way. He is
:08:42. > :08:46.human, after all. David, welcome back, good to see
:08:47. > :08:50.you. You are quite right, everybody has the right to a private life,
:08:51. > :08:56.even public figures. But it does not give them the right to do whatever
:08:57. > :09:02.they want, and not expect disclosure, not expected to become
:09:03. > :09:06.public. Of course, especially these days. These days, it is more
:09:07. > :09:10.complicated. You cannot avoid the fact that people are interested in
:09:11. > :09:13.what you are doing as a politician, as a sports man. They want to know
:09:14. > :09:20.everything about you, about your life, what you are doing outside the
:09:21. > :09:24.game, outside politics. This is the worst-case scenario. You to be a
:09:25. > :09:27.role model. When you are a politician, people expect you to do
:09:28. > :09:31.the right thing, to say the right thing at the right time, and this is
:09:32. > :09:35.all about that. When I say that we are all human and I talk about
:09:36. > :09:40.weaknesses in people, we are all going to be judged one day, by God.
:09:41. > :09:46.This is the only one who can judge us. Most of the time when I look at
:09:47. > :09:50.it and I think about myself, people will write something. Someone will
:09:51. > :09:58.write a story, does he look at himself in the mirror? Who is he to
:09:59. > :10:01.tell people other people's story? That is the only thing that annoys
:10:02. > :10:07.me. Talking about the difference between France and England, we are
:10:08. > :10:14.starting to act the same way. The French do not say that. The polls
:10:15. > :10:18.show that around 75 to 80% of the French say they do not care what the
:10:19. > :10:27.president does, where he goes on his motor scooter, but the fact is that
:10:28. > :10:30.the magazine was a sell-out. We have both just come back from France and
:10:31. > :10:36.it is on all the broadcasting. Everybody is talking about it.
:10:37. > :10:40.Because I think this is an amazing story, first of all, because people
:10:41. > :10:44.in France were not expecting Francois Hollande to do something
:10:45. > :10:50.like that, to see him on a mope aired, going with a crash helmet to
:10:51. > :10:53.visit his mistress. It came as a surprise, which is why people wanted
:10:54. > :11:01.to know more about it and how it was possible. Because when he was
:11:02. > :11:07.elected, most of the words used against Sarkozy were clear. There
:11:08. > :11:13.was a lot said about the previous president. So it came as a
:11:14. > :11:18.surprise. People just wanted to know, which was why they bought the
:11:19. > :11:22.magazine, to see the pictures. Because of the French attitude to
:11:23. > :11:26.privacy, people talk about this country being class ridden, but
:11:27. > :11:32.France is a two class system when it comes to political gossip. The Paris
:11:33. > :11:36.in a league has known about this for a long while, as they knew about
:11:37. > :11:45.Mitterrand and Chirac. The ordinary people did not. We live in a very
:11:46. > :11:49.difficult time. We talk about the financial crisis and everything else
:11:50. > :11:53.in the world and Europe, and also in France, and people are expecting, I
:11:54. > :12:00.guess, Francois Hollande to be one of the kind, he was elected to make
:12:01. > :12:06.a change. He was elected by the people because people thought that
:12:07. > :12:10.he was going to work for the people. It does not come as a
:12:11. > :12:22.disappointment. It comes just as, wow! What is going on? It does not
:12:23. > :12:29.make him bad, or a bad person. Do you know what I mean? That is why I
:12:30. > :12:37.said he is human after all. It is all about that. In terms of the
:12:38. > :12:40.media coverage, the keeper of France's nuclear deterrent is
:12:41. > :12:45.running around France on a scooter with minimal security, having an
:12:46. > :12:48.affair and a love nest connected to the Corsican Mafia, he cannot tell
:12:49. > :12:53.us who the first lady is but there is a woman installed as one at
:12:54. > :12:57.taxpayer expense. As a French taxpayer, I am hoping to pay for it.
:12:58. > :13:03.Why is it not in the public interest that we should know that? That is a
:13:04. > :13:07.series of very British questions from a former British editor of a
:13:08. > :13:13.newspaper, not the way that the French see it. I am not sure that is
:13:14. > :13:16.true. I think it has been a wonderful illustration of the
:13:17. > :13:19.difference of two different political cultures that exist within
:13:20. > :13:22.a few miles of each other. I have noticed that all week British
:13:23. > :13:27.journalist have been trying to invent reasons why the President's
:13:28. > :13:33.privacy should be... What is wrong with those reasons? Because they are
:13:34. > :13:38.fatuous. He is going to fire the nuclear deterrent this week, is he?
:13:39. > :13:43.You really think the head of state should be out with one bodyguard
:13:44. > :13:54.going around Paris on a scooter? I think he should do it much more fun.
:13:55. > :13:59.That is a good answer. I think the president of the United States
:14:00. > :14:03.should go to baseball games. Andrew, Jack Kennedy's sex life did
:14:04. > :14:07.not alter the fact that he is widely regarded as one of the greatest
:14:08. > :14:15.American presidents. Not widely by me. Winston Churchill allegedly
:14:16. > :14:19.drank too much. Just cause somebody has a private life that does not
:14:20. > :14:25.bear examination does not mean they cannot be a great statesman. But the
:14:26. > :14:30.French elite has used these attitudes, from politicians, by the
:14:31. > :14:34.way, who do not like the media are doing it, the French elite has used
:14:35. > :14:40.this privacy law to do what they want. Mitterrand praised -- placed
:14:41. > :14:48.his whole unknown second family into French state apartments paid for by
:14:49. > :14:56.the French taxpayer. So? I think you have the right to know that, but...
:14:57. > :15:00.That is the argument. Things have changed significantly in the last
:15:01. > :15:08.ten or 15 years. I think we try to cut the cake -- we try to copycat
:15:09. > :15:12.the English system in terms of gossip, newspapers, magazines.
:15:13. > :15:16.Before that, there were only one or two magazines on a Sunday which were
:15:17. > :15:21.talking about gossip and the life of people in general. Now, there are
:15:22. > :15:24.tens of them. Even so, there is a different and I think it goes to the
:15:25. > :15:30.point about European political union. We are fundamentally
:15:31. > :15:36.different, politically, across Europe. We have completely different
:15:37. > :15:42.cultures. Can I take you away from the EU and back to Francois
:15:43. > :15:47.Hollande? I think French and journalists were right to ask only
:15:48. > :15:51.one question, on who he was having a relationship with, because he was
:15:52. > :15:56.announcing in that press conference a move to the centre right,
:15:57. > :16:00.announcing new payroll taxes, promising to cut public spending.
:16:01. > :16:10.Those are all far more important issues for the French than who he is
:16:11. > :16:16.going to bed with. 70% of the French population think that people are
:16:17. > :16:21.entitled to a private life. That is what they say. Your party suffered
:16:22. > :16:25.on that. Are you telling me that if David Cameron was jumping on a
:16:26. > :16:30.motorbike in two hours' time and nipping around to have an affair
:16:31. > :16:33.with some actress in a dodgy flat owned by the Turkish underground,
:16:34. > :16:39.any paper that revealed that, you would attack? You've... You would
:16:40. > :16:45.attack? You have conflated criminality and actresses and
:16:46. > :16:49.motorbikes. I stick with what David Ginola said so beautifully. People
:16:50. > :16:53.are entitled to a private life. Let me say something about that? As far
:16:54. > :16:58.as you are not breaking any law. I don't see anything bad in that.
:16:59. > :17:05.Obviously, I was talking about a role model, you should have, as a
:17:06. > :17:09.politician. Overall, this is funny. You don't think it is bizarre that
:17:10. > :17:14.the President of France can't tell us who the First Lady is? He will be
:17:15. > :17:18.able to. People are entitled to a private life. It is a different
:17:19. > :17:24.world. That should be respected, too. We should know about it? He is
:17:25. > :17:27.entitled to a private life. We shouldn't know that she is in
:17:28. > :17:33.hospital because of what happened? That should be secret, too? We do
:17:34. > :17:37.know about that. I know about that. People are entitled to a private
:17:38. > :17:42.life, so long as they are not doing something strange with money or
:17:43. > :17:45.breaking the law. Three the one is unfair because there is only the
:17:46. > :17:53.three of them! David, good to see you. . Pleasure.
:17:54. > :17:57.Now it's late - and you're probably drunk enough to paint a portrait of
:17:58. > :18:00.Diane Abbott, but don't clean your brushes with your Blue Nun just yet.
:18:01. > :18:03.Because waiting in the wings, laughing in the face of This Week
:18:04. > :18:07.danger, documentary film-maker and all-round action hero Ross Kemp is
:18:08. > :18:12.here to report back on the scale of modern-day slavery - what he's
:18:13. > :18:15.witnessed and recorded. And if you think we're bothered what you think
:18:16. > :18:20.of us, two little words - Katie Hopkins. Only a show with total
:18:21. > :18:24.disregard for public opinion would have her as a guest. But don't
:18:25. > :18:28.forget you can still moan until the cows come home on The Twitter,
:18:29. > :18:31.complain until your Blue Nun in the face on The Fleecebook, and demand a
:18:32. > :18:36.refund of your licence fee on the Interweb.
:18:37. > :18:40.Now it's been another busy week at with heated rows over the economy,
:18:41. > :18:44.bankers' bonuses, Europe and - I'm sorry, none of these are REAL
:18:45. > :18:56.stories. Can we just have a reminder of our story of the week, please?
:18:57. > :19:00.Yes, there it is. ?11,750 - just imagine how much Blue Nun 12 grand
:19:01. > :19:04.could buy. So with that in mind, we sent the Sun's Jane Moore off to art
:19:05. > :19:17.school for her round-up of the week at Westminster.
:19:18. > :19:31.Quarter of a million for various shades of grey men - and a couple of
:19:32. > :19:49.women? If they had asked me, I would have done it for half the price!
:19:50. > :19:53.Never seen a Lowry before(?) Unless you become Prime Minister, you can
:19:54. > :19:58.pay for your own vanity project and while you are at it, stick it in the
:19:59. > :20:03.down stair's loo of your taxpayer-funded second home! This
:20:04. > :20:11.week, inflation fell to 2%. Only four years late! The PM is not ready
:20:12. > :20:17.to show us the Monet just yet! He does have a clever wheeze to refill
:20:18. > :20:21.Treasury paint pots by telling the country to go and frack itself! It
:20:22. > :20:26.is a lot of money. As soon as a well is dug, the local community should
:20:27. > :20:30.get ?100,000, they should get 1% of the revenues over the life of that
:20:31. > :20:37.well and today we are announcing that the local council should keep
:20:38. > :20:42.100% of the business rate. ?100,000? That won't buy you ten portraits of
:20:43. > :20:46.Diane Abbott! Many in the energy markets doubt whether fracking is
:20:47. > :20:50.all it's fracked up to be. Labour Leader Ed Miliband thinks that we
:20:51. > :20:55.should be drawing from another potential well - bankers. So, this
:20:56. > :21:02.week, he tried to push the PM into limiting bonuses at the bank of you
:21:03. > :21:08.and me, a.k.a. , RBS, to no more than ?1 million. How will they
:21:09. > :21:12.manage? When ordinary families are facing a cost of living crisis,
:21:13. > :21:16.surely he can say that for people earning ?1 million, a bonus of ?1
:21:17. > :21:22.million should be quite enough? What I have said very clearly is that the
:21:23. > :21:28.remuneration, the total pay bill at that investment bank, must come
:21:29. > :21:32.down. He rises up with all the authority of Reverend Flowers and we
:21:33. > :21:37.still - where is the apology for the mess they made of RBS in the first
:21:38. > :21:48.place? Oh well, that was the end of the supposedly new-look less
:21:49. > :21:54.gladiatorial PMQs - it only lasted a week! No-one is going to paint you
:21:55. > :21:58.looking like that, dear! # I had a picture
:21:59. > :22:01.# Of you in my mind # Never knew it would be so wrong...
:22:02. > :22:07.# Ed wants to be taken seriously as an
:22:08. > :22:12.artist. Keen to paint himself as a people's champion, a man of many
:22:13. > :22:16.colours, not just Red Ed, silly! On Monday, he was the save your of the
:22:17. > :22:22.middle-classes. Tomorrow, he is expected to call for a cap on the
:22:23. > :22:26.big five banks. But the Governor of the Bank of England reckons he
:22:27. > :22:36.should go back to the drawing board. I'm calling this one "Ideas". Just
:22:37. > :22:46.breaking up an institution doesn't necessarily create a viable, a more
:22:47. > :22:52.intensive competitive structure. # I have been looking so long
:22:53. > :22:54.# At these pictures of you... # Many small businesses reckon it is red
:22:55. > :23:00.tape from Brussels that's holding back the economy. And this week,
:23:01. > :23:04.more than 90 Tory MPs wrote to the Prime Minister demanding that
:23:05. > :23:15.Britain should be given the power to veto EU law unilaterally. Nah! We
:23:16. > :23:20.want a different relationship with the European Union that allows
:23:21. > :23:25.democracy, democracy is about the right to make and change your own
:23:26. > :23:33.laws. That's what we are asking Parliament to take back. Clearly,
:23:34. > :23:38.they wish to stiffen their leader's resolve to take on Europe. And of
:23:39. > :23:43.course UKIP, still painting its rosy picture of life outside the EU. The
:23:44. > :23:57.letter prompted an angry brush-off from Tory high command, but a
:23:58. > :24:01.lighter, more pastelly approach from George Osborne. They will have to
:24:02. > :24:06.choose between joining the euro, which the UK will not do, or leaving
:24:07. > :24:10.the European Union. Can't argue with that. Hang on a minute... What I'm
:24:11. > :24:13.not up for is what the Conservative Party appear to be doing more
:24:14. > :24:18.widely, is flirting with exit from the EU, which will be an act of
:24:19. > :24:22.economic suicide. So, the PM is patching up holes and painting over
:24:23. > :24:26.cracks. But when politicians start talking about subjects they really
:24:27. > :24:32.don't want to, it's a clear sign that there is one thing on their
:24:33. > :24:38.mind - an election. Just when Cameron thought he had repositioned
:24:39. > :24:44.the Tory Party as the caring, touchy-feely guys, this happens.
:24:45. > :24:48.People ought to know that if they stuff themselves silly with high
:24:49. > :24:59.calorie rubbish foods, they will get fat. It's their responsibility.
:25:00. > :25:06.Don't beat about the bush Norm(!) Say what you think. My masterpiece
:25:07. > :25:21.is ready. What do you think, Andrew? I tell you what, mate's rates! Yours
:25:22. > :25:26.for ten grand! It's no oil painting! Jane Picasso Moore there. Welcome
:25:27. > :25:31.back. This much-billed speech on economic policy by Ed Miliband
:25:32. > :25:34.tomorrow, turns out not to be about economic policy, turns out to be
:25:35. > :25:38.banking reform. He has had a good run on energy prices. That was a
:25:39. > :25:41.while back now, back to the Labour Conference. He's had a reasonable
:25:42. > :25:45.run on cost of living crisis, but that's beginning to run out of steam
:25:46. > :25:51.now that wages are beginning to overtake prices. Can banking reform
:25:52. > :25:56.fill the gap? Banks are extremely unpopular. It depends what he is
:25:57. > :26:01.saying. He is referring them to the Competition Commission? Yes.
:26:02. > :26:06.LAUGHTER That's excited you(!)! Politically,
:26:07. > :26:13.I see why he is doing it. Michael, what do you think? Help her,
:26:14. > :26:17.Michael. I don't believe what the bankers say about how much pay they
:26:18. > :26:21.need in order to avoid their people being pinched abroad. When goi to
:26:22. > :26:26.Germany, I found the banking system in very good order. I found the gap
:26:27. > :26:31.between the bottom and the top in pay very much narrower than it is
:26:32. > :26:34.here. I don't find Germans are leaving Germany to come and work in
:26:35. > :26:39.Britain. I find when I speak to Germans about this, they say because
:26:40. > :26:45.we pay our people less, for example in the research facilities, we can
:26:46. > :26:50.employ more people. Germany has only major investment bank. That's where
:26:51. > :26:55.the real money is? What I'm saying is I think the Remuneration
:26:56. > :27:00.Committees of banks and the Chairmen of banks are terrified. The
:27:01. > :27:04.shareholders are terrified. I think at some point this terror, this
:27:05. > :27:08.bluff has to be called. I understand that. That would be very popular.
:27:09. > :27:14.That won't be done by a referral to the Competition Commission? No. It's
:27:15. > :27:17.the beginning of a process. Everything the EU does is terrible.
:27:18. > :27:23.I'm not sure trying to limit bonuses is so terrible. Diane... You have to
:27:24. > :27:26.begin somewhere. He has said something nice about Europe? There
:27:27. > :27:34.is that. Shall we have a minute's silence? London has become a casino.
:27:35. > :27:39.Was a casino. It's all been run down now. New York dominates investment
:27:40. > :27:44.banking now. London is over. Then all the more reason. Well, it means
:27:45. > :27:49.you don't have to do very much. Ed Miliband is floundering a bit at
:27:50. > :27:59.PMQs. The polls haven't been going too well. What would you advise? He
:28:00. > :28:04.seemed fine to me. Can you say that with more enthusiasm? What he has to
:28:05. > :28:08.zero in on - and he is - is the fact that even though the macroeconomic
:28:09. > :28:14.numbers look good... They are getting better. They are looking
:28:15. > :28:18.better. Ordinary British voters feel worse off. There's that discrepancy
:28:19. > :28:21.between what the numbers say and people's lives. That's where we have
:28:22. > :28:28.to plant our tent. That is what makes this year so interesting. The
:28:29. > :28:32.pace of recovery has got to be matched by, if the Tories and the
:28:33. > :28:38.coalition want to do well, by a feeling that I'm benefitting, too?
:28:39. > :28:43.Absolutely. You have got the signs that wages might start to pick up.
:28:44. > :28:47.It's been a big delay between the economy starting to recover and
:28:48. > :28:52.people's take-home pay starting to improve. You have had this big move
:28:53. > :28:59.from George Osborne today saying I'm going to recommend correcting the
:29:00. > :29:02.minimum wage back up to... Vince Cable recommended the same thing in
:29:03. > :29:06.September. That is fine, a bit of coalition unity wouldn't go amiss.
:29:07. > :29:10.That is fine. It's all part of this really important theme which is, you
:29:11. > :29:13.know, everybody sharing in the recovery. I think what is
:29:14. > :29:18.interesting about this new Ed Miliband intervention this week
:29:19. > :29:21.saying we are going to rebuild the middle-classes, it is interesting,
:29:22. > :29:26.it might work. I slightly worry for them, though. Who, the
:29:27. > :29:32.middle-classes? For the Labour Party. There is a danger of being
:29:33. > :29:36.seen as a commentator, you know, on public disgruntlement. That is not
:29:37. > :29:40.really enough... What would Labour do to improve the plight of the
:29:41. > :29:46.middle-classes? We talked about a whole series of things. Issues
:29:47. > :29:52.around childcare, fuel prices. Issues around making it a more
:29:53. > :29:57.stable world. What frightens people is uncertainty. Don't look at me
:29:58. > :30:15.like that! Now you have said issues, issues, all the unternty has gone.
:30:16. > :30:22.That is my point. All right, Lord Rennard. Is it not fair to say the
:30:23. > :30:26.Lib Dems have made a mess of the affair? Yes, that is utterly fair.
:30:27. > :30:30.It is really damaging the way this has turned out. We have ended up
:30:31. > :30:37.with a report which was supposed to close it, which is utterly
:30:38. > :30:42.inconclusive. The statement says that on the one hand the women's
:30:43. > :30:47.stories are credible, but on the other hand, the party must not do
:30:48. > :30:52.anything under its own rules. It is a ridiculous situation. Except ask
:30:53. > :31:00.for an apology, which implies responsibility. What would you
:31:01. > :31:05.advise me collect to do? -- Nick Clegg. I think this is one of the
:31:06. > :31:09.moments when the Lib Dems have to realise that their past as a party
:31:10. > :31:15.not in the spotlight is behind them and more ruthlessness is called for.
:31:16. > :31:19.I am told that make Clegg has been speaking to the Lib Dem Chief Whip
:31:20. > :31:24.in the Lords, and privately he wants to withdraw the whip. That is what
:31:25. > :31:34.he wants to do, but under the Lib Dem rules, apparently he needs a
:31:35. > :31:34.majority of Lib Dem peers to agree to this, and he is not sure there is
:31:35. > :31:39.a majority. There is a generational thing here. I think these older Lib
:31:40. > :31:43.Dem peers think he has not really done anything wrong. Maybe been a
:31:44. > :31:51.bit stupid, but he has not done... Which is not what the younger people
:31:52. > :31:54.think. You are right to identify the divide between how the generations
:31:55. > :32:01.view the crimes and misdemeanours under discussion. But also, there
:32:02. > :32:05.are two parallel universes. There is this legalistic universe, the idea
:32:06. > :32:09.that you need a criminal standard of proof for workplace harassment,
:32:10. > :32:14.which is ridiculous, and then there is the real world in which several
:32:15. > :32:19.women came forward with stories that a QC found credible. To ignore it is
:32:20. > :32:25.ridiculous. There are people like that in every party. The Lib Dems'
:32:26. > :32:29.problem is that he was so powerful for a period that all roads lead to
:32:30. > :32:37.him. You could not leave the room or change the subject. The fact is that
:32:38. > :32:41.Nick Clegg needs to clean house. What does Mr Cameron do with his
:32:42. > :32:46.backbenchers, who are banging on about Europe, no matter how much he
:32:47. > :32:49.tells them not to. That is what gets coverage in the Tory press, rather
:32:50. > :32:54.than unemployment and inflation coming down and economic growth
:32:55. > :32:59.picking up. It is a party that longs to fall apart and fight itself on
:33:00. > :33:04.this issue. And to a large extent, it longs to be in opposition so it
:33:05. > :33:07.can have the leisure to do so. It must be exhaust breaking from David
:33:08. > :33:10.Cameron was my point of view, because after all, he made this
:33:11. > :33:15.extraordinary commitment to hold a referendum, should there be another
:33:16. > :33:20.Conservative government, on and in out vote. That was intended to buy
:33:21. > :33:25.off these people. Ten minutes later, 95 of them write a letter
:33:26. > :33:27.saying they want a position for Britain which is wholly inconsistent
:33:28. > :33:35.with membership of the European Union. They are insatiable. They say
:33:36. > :33:40.history doesn't repeat itself but the Tories are destroying themselves
:33:41. > :33:45.over Europe, once again. Now, slavery. We think of it as a
:33:46. > :33:48.blight on generations past, which a more enlightened world has long
:33:49. > :33:51.since banished. Except that it hasn't. Barely a week goes by
:33:52. > :33:54.without horrendous tales of human trafficking becoming public, and
:33:55. > :33:59.that's because the scale of modern-day slavery is far bigger
:34:00. > :34:03.than many people ever imagine. So on the day British-directed and acted
:34:04. > :34:04.12 Years A Slave receives nine Oscar nominations, we've decided to put
:34:05. > :34:40.slavery in tonight's Spotlight. In the week where historical drama
:34:41. > :34:44.12 Years A Slave triumphed at the Golden globes, we are given a
:34:45. > :34:49.sobering reminder that slavery is not necessarily a thing of the
:34:50. > :34:53.past. I have come to India to try to understand its biggest secret dash
:34:54. > :34:59.human trafficking. Ross Kemp witnessed it first hand. The first
:35:00. > :35:02.episode of his new series exposes the vastness and cruelty of human
:35:03. > :35:15.trafficking and child slavery in India. You are saying that you do
:35:16. > :35:19.kill them, that they are killed? This is closer to home than we would
:35:20. > :35:23.like to think. Appearing before the liaison committee this week, David
:35:24. > :35:29.Cameron answered questions on how to root out modern day slavery in the
:35:30. > :35:33.UK. But it is genuinely shocking and Parliament, the House of Commons,
:35:34. > :35:37.has done quite a good job at raising the profile of this issue, opening
:35:38. > :35:42.people's ties to the robber of modern-day slavery.
:35:43. > :35:46.If he caught Benefits Street on Monday he would have seen Romanian
:35:47. > :35:55.immigrants furious about their treatment by their UK employer.
:35:56. > :36:00.Taking our jobs, or exploited for their labour? So, are we too quick
:36:01. > :36:05.to dismiss slavery as a thing of the past. Is it time to face facts and
:36:06. > :36:15.recognise that slavery is not just in the house on Mars? -- in our
:36:16. > :36:18.movie theatres. If anybody thinks slavery is a thing
:36:19. > :36:22.of the past, they will be thinking differently after your show. There
:36:23. > :36:27.are more slaves now than there ever have been. The reason for that is
:36:28. > :36:32.people being displaced, corruption in certain countries, and the
:36:33. > :36:37.disparity between money around the world, the haves and have-nots. It
:36:38. > :36:41.is also cultural, it depends what country you go to. No one really
:36:42. > :36:46.knows how many slaves there are. They estimated to be 30 million
:36:47. > :36:51.people, but no one really knows. I would suggest it is far more than
:36:52. > :36:56.that and it shows no sign, wherever I go, of decreasing. No one is doing
:36:57. > :37:00.anything about it. In India, we were told officially 30,000 girls go
:37:01. > :37:07.missing into the sex trade as slaves every year. We found out it is
:37:08. > :37:13.nearer 100 vows. There are 30 detect it is looking for those 100,000
:37:14. > :37:16.girls and they have three computers. -- detectives. Lots of the police
:37:17. > :37:23.are involved in trafficking those girls to major cities. The people
:37:24. > :37:33.involved are never held to account. They reckon there are 100,000 people
:37:34. > :37:38.involved in the trade in India. We have it in Britain, too.
:37:39. > :37:42.Undoubtedly. Wherever a culture transfers itself they bring their
:37:43. > :37:47.culture, and it is natural base do so. People do not know much about
:37:48. > :37:51.the Chinese culture here, but sex trafficking among the Chinese is
:37:52. > :37:55.kept under the wire. When I was doing a programme about sex
:37:56. > :37:59.trafficking people from Eastern Europe to hear, we discover that the
:38:00. > :38:05.Vietnamese now control most of the marijuana plants in the UK. And
:38:06. > :38:09.young boys are sold, given by their families in villages to come all the
:38:10. > :38:12.way here, too supposedly work in a restaurant, sometimes given money by
:38:13. > :38:17.the traffickers because they think their son will come back with money,
:38:18. > :38:20.or with a trade. He ends up locked in a suburban house, basically
:38:21. > :38:24.growing marijuana, and the only English that they learn is, I am
:38:25. > :38:30.under 16, so they will not get a sentence. They are fed, given food
:38:31. > :38:36.once a month, and they are locked in and all that they have to do is look
:38:37. > :38:39.after the plants. They electrocute the houses so that if other
:38:40. > :38:45.criminals try to come in, they will get a shock. And if the kid tries to
:38:46. > :38:49.leave, he gets shocked. That is happening under our noses. We broke
:38:50. > :38:55.into six houses in a suburban road in house lump -- south London.
:38:56. > :39:01.Hydroponic plants. There must have been 1000 plants, worth a lot of
:39:02. > :39:07.money. It seems it is on such a scale and probably growing. It is
:39:08. > :39:12.probably worth $1 billion a year. And the forces of law and order are
:39:13. > :39:16.inadequate to the challenge. Here, I do not think we understand the scale
:39:17. > :39:20.of the problem in the UK. People do not want to talk about it. And when
:39:21. > :39:26.do you say, what is bondage, what is slavery? It is not necessarily about
:39:27. > :39:31.having physical handcuffs around you. In India, for instance, if you
:39:32. > :39:35.are tied to a bed, as happens to most of these girls, they are tied
:39:36. > :39:39.up for a year, chained to the bed, only released to go to the toilet
:39:40. > :39:43.and for food, and then chained to the bed. They can never go back to
:39:44. > :39:49.their village. They are shamed. They can never face their families. From
:39:50. > :39:52.that point on, we end the film, because the reason there has been an
:39:53. > :39:56.explosion of HIV is because many people go to India, particularly
:39:57. > :39:59.from other countries in the region, to have unprotected sex because they
:40:00. > :40:06.believe it can cure them from having aids. We finished the film. I say,
:40:07. > :40:09.this is a fantastic country and it spends more money on arms than
:40:10. > :40:12.almost any other country, it has a space programme and it is not really
:40:13. > :40:18.looking after the mothers of its children. It would seem, after the
:40:19. > :40:24.success of 12 Years A Slave, the next Hollywood movie should be
:40:25. > :40:31.slavery today, now. I think slavery is not just a question of cult show.
:40:32. > :40:35.It is also an economic thing. Do you remember those Chinese people who
:40:36. > :40:39.died in Morecambe Bay? They work slaves. You find some people and the
:40:40. > :40:45.gang masters doing agricultural work. We used to call it indentured
:40:46. > :40:53.labour. It is bonded labour. You inherit a debt you have to pay off.
:40:54. > :41:01.They either go up to their waste and water, picking prawns. But
:41:02. > :41:05.generally, you are fourth-generation paying off a debt your
:41:06. > :41:08.great-grandfather owns -- owes. So you are never going to pay it off
:41:09. > :41:16.because the interest they place on it gets higher and higher. Well, I
:41:17. > :41:20.am in shock. I have not had the benefit of seeing this Kim entry
:41:21. > :41:25.yet. I was going to say I look forward to it, but you know what I
:41:26. > :41:31.mean. I need to see it because I had no idea there was anything like
:41:32. > :41:36.this. We think battles have been won and fought against slavery - the
:41:37. > :41:41.American civil war, Wilberforce, a national hero in this country. After
:41:42. > :41:45.Britain's appalling industrialisation of slavery, before
:41:46. > :41:48.then, the role of the Royal Navy in stopping the slave trade from
:41:49. > :41:56.happening. Actually, those problems, the problems now are on
:41:57. > :41:59.almost as great a scale. On a larger scale, and showing no sign of
:42:00. > :42:06.improving, I am afraid. We are not doing enough about it. In the UK and
:42:07. > :42:10.across the world. What is happening is that people are turning a blind
:42:11. > :42:13.eye, because we know what is happening in some of these
:42:14. > :42:17.agricultural, and even, as you say, the houses where they grow
:42:18. > :42:23.marijuana. Most of the marijuana purchased on the streets of Britain
:42:24. > :42:28.now has grown in Britain. We are turning a blind eye. We should not
:42:29. > :42:30.turn a blind eye. Where there are poor and vulnerable people, and
:42:31. > :42:37.there are people willing to exploit them, you will have conditions of
:42:38. > :42:45.quasi slavery. If one of these young girls tries to run away, they just
:42:46. > :42:51.shoot her. Worse. There are many ways of doing it. They honey trap
:42:52. > :42:56.them. The parents are told that the child, rather than growing up in a
:42:57. > :43:00.brick kiln, or up to her waist in 50 degrees heat picking prawns, she
:43:01. > :43:05.will go and work in a town and she will get an education. One of the
:43:06. > :43:11.girls, under the age of ten, I cannot go into detail, but she was
:43:12. > :43:16.raped everywhere for two years. She escaped when she was 12, so she had
:43:17. > :43:23.two years of being abused, sexually abused and as a domestic slave,
:43:24. > :43:34.both. It is commonplace, and it is also accepted. It is the way they
:43:35. > :43:40.look at the class system. The first pogrom goes out on Tuesday at 9pm on
:43:41. > :43:45.sky one. Then we go to Papa New Guinea, where I get held up in the
:43:46. > :43:50.jungle. And we look at the anarchy there. 99% of the women in the north
:43:51. > :44:00.of the country have been abused, a horrific fact. There are more
:44:01. > :44:06.programmes after that. We have run out of time. But I wanted to talk
:44:07. > :44:17.about this. It is a must watch series.
:44:18. > :44:18.That's your lot for tonight, folks. We are going straight to the closing
:44:19. > :44:21.titles.