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:00:08. > :00:18.Tonight on This Week, join us for some political drama.

:00:19. > :00:20.Making waves across the pond, US Presidential hopeful and business

:00:21. > :00:22.magnate Donald Trump says Muslims should be banned from entering

:00:23. > :00:25.British politician, Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh says

:00:26. > :00:28.the apprentice politician should banned from the UK.

:00:29. > :00:32.Frank Underwood said we are nothing more or less than we choose

:00:33. > :00:39.to reveal and Donald Trump revealed his true self this week.

:00:40. > :00:41.In Westminster, David Cameron and the Labour leader give

:00:42. > :00:48.But who took advantage of their absence?

:00:49. > :00:54.Lurking in the shadows, the BBC's John Pienaar.

:00:55. > :00:57.Did Angela Eagle fancy Jeremy's job this week?

:00:58. > :01:04.And the chemistry between Frank and his wife in House

:01:05. > :01:09.We take a look at personal relationships in politics,

:01:10. > :01:12.with stars of hit TV show First Dates, maitre d' Fred

:01:13. > :01:28.This Week is like a bottle of fine wine. Well, the longer you keep it

:01:29. > :01:30.corked up, the better. As we say on This Week,

:01:31. > :01:33.friends make the worst enemies. Welcome to This Week,

:01:34. > :01:39.the dangerous no-go area in the mean streets of BBC current affairs,

:01:40. > :01:42.where we've decided on a total and complete shutdown of anybody

:01:43. > :01:47.watching this show "until we figure Now, you may find that

:01:48. > :01:51.a little extreme. But it's not as if we're stopping

:01:52. > :01:54.a particular race or religion Nobody could be that

:01:55. > :01:58.bigoted, obviously. We're banning everybody, so there's

:01:59. > :02:00.no discrimination involved. The problem, as regular and now

:02:01. > :02:04.former viewers will know, is that figuring out what the hell

:02:05. > :02:08.is going on has never So this ban on viewers,

:02:09. > :02:12.which will affect at least seven homes across the land,

:02:13. > :02:14.including two in Cumbria who can't see us anyway because the floods

:02:15. > :02:17.have knocked out their electricity, And when we've figured out

:02:18. > :02:22.what the hell is going on, we haven't yet figured

:02:23. > :02:24.out how to tell you, since you've been

:02:25. > :02:25.banned from watching. The best idea so far is to tweet out

:02:26. > :02:32.#you-aint-no-diane-abbott-bruv. Then you'll know the ban has been

:02:33. > :02:35.rescinded and it's safe Speaking of futile gestures,

:02:36. > :02:39.I'm joined on the sofa tonight by two Westminster birds

:02:40. > :02:40.eyeing their prey. Think of them as the golden eagle

:02:41. > :02:43.and Angela Eagle of late I speak, of course, of #jesswecan,

:02:44. > :02:48.Jess "did you book me And #sadmanonatrain,

:02:49. > :03:05.Michael "choo choo" Portillo. Your moment of the week, Michael.

:03:06. > :03:10.The pathetic failure of the government to make a decision about

:03:11. > :03:14.airport capacity in the south-east. It makes me really despair of our

:03:15. > :03:17.democratic system, because the reason for this obviously is that

:03:18. > :03:26.the Conservatives are worried about the mayoral election. Very clearly

:03:27. > :03:31.indeed. And when local political difficulties get in the way of

:03:32. > :03:34.making a decision that is important on National grounds, that makes you

:03:35. > :03:38.depressed about the democratic system. I think it is making us a

:03:39. > :03:43.laughing stock around the world. To have our main airport still only

:03:44. > :03:48.having two runways makes us far behind other countries. They went

:03:49. > :03:52.through the rigmarole of getting an independent commission to take it

:03:53. > :03:56.out of politics. And they postponed it to the other side of the general

:03:57. > :04:00.election, which was a delay of about four years anyway, and this builds

:04:01. > :04:06.upon delays that have gone back decades. We really are in a pathetic

:04:07. > :04:13.position. Your moment of the week. Angela Eagle at the dispatch box.

:04:14. > :04:19.Seeing a strong woman and a happy Labour Party was, you know,

:04:20. > :04:23.different from last week. We will talk more about that. Our moment of

:04:24. > :04:25.the year is the report that you told Diane Abbott to F off. What did she

:04:26. > :04:34.do? She obliged. She went forth. Now, a This Week

:04:35. > :04:35.public announcement. It's our Christmas show next week,

:04:36. > :04:38.and we've decided to spoil you with the long-awaited

:04:39. > :04:40.return of the Twelfie! So get ready to whip

:04:41. > :04:42.out your decorations next Thursday night, because we'll be wanting

:04:43. > :04:44.festive-themed Twelfie pictures As always, proof that you're

:04:45. > :04:48.watching This Week is a must. Extra points for any Santa hats

:04:49. > :04:52.and Blue Nun in shot. Naked pictures will not be broadcast

:04:53. > :04:55.but discreetly passed to Michael Now, the race to become

:04:56. > :05:03.the Republican presidential candidate took a controversial turn

:05:04. > :05:05.this week, after front-runner Donald Trump called for a total

:05:06. > :05:08."shutdown" of Muslims entering His comments followed a mass

:05:09. > :05:13.shooting in California which turned out to be the worst terrorist attack

:05:14. > :05:16.on US soil since 9/11, inspired, if not organised,

:05:17. > :05:20.by Islamic State. His remarks provoked condemnation

:05:21. > :05:23.across the American political And here in Blighty a petition

:05:24. > :05:29.to ban him from visiting Britain has become the most popular campaign

:05:30. > :05:31.ever on the British Government's website, with nearly half a million

:05:32. > :05:37.signatories as of this evening. Yesterday, Chancellor George Osborne

:05:38. > :05:39.condemned Mr Trump but resisted That's not good enough for the SNP

:05:40. > :05:44.MP Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh. There is a hate speaker at large,

:05:45. > :05:57.and the Home Secretary needs to show And in this instance,

:05:58. > :06:10.I'm not talking about a terrorist death cult, but someone who's been

:06:11. > :06:13.given a platform to speak to millions of people

:06:14. > :06:15.across the world. Donald J Trump is calling

:06:16. > :06:22.for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering

:06:23. > :06:26.the United States, until our country's representatives can figure

:06:27. > :06:33.out what the hell is going on. # The thrill is gone # The thrill

:06:34. > :06:40.is gone away...# America,

:06:41. > :06:42.the leader of the free world, potentially the next president

:06:43. > :06:47.of the United States, whose prejudice stokes the fires

:06:48. > :06:51.of Islamophobia and makes this world a less safe place

:06:52. > :06:56.for us all to live in. Anti-Muslim attacks have skyrocketed

:06:57. > :06:59.since the atrocities in Paris, with Muslim women who wear the hijab

:07:00. > :07:06.feeling particularly vulnerable. Political leaders set the tone

:07:07. > :07:14.in national debate, and Donald Trump, whether he is

:07:15. > :07:17.elected or not, is responsible The Home Secretary has banned 84

:07:18. > :07:31.people from the UK already # You know you've done me wrong,

:07:32. > :07:45.baby, and you'll be sorry someday... We can't have one rule for hate

:07:46. > :07:47.preachers and another for rich, Yes, freedom of speech is important,

:07:48. > :07:58.and people have a right to be wrong, but when that tips into affecting

:07:59. > :08:01.the safety of others, or directly helping a terrorist

:08:02. > :08:09.cause, we have to draw the line. Donald Trump says he will make

:08:10. > :08:13.America great again. From masterpieces of literature

:08:14. > :08:22.to a collection of dusty old tomes left on the shelf here

:08:23. > :08:36.in Westminster, Tasmina Welcome to the programme. Michael,

:08:37. > :08:44.yes or no, should Donald Trump be banned from the UK? No, don't think

:08:45. > :08:49.so. This may be a man we have to deal with anyway. I strongly

:08:50. > :08:52.disapprove of his remarks. I'm getting extremely depressed about

:08:53. > :08:55.the fact that he is front runner for the Republicans and could become

:08:56. > :09:00.president of the United States. You think he could become president?

:09:01. > :09:06.Well, this will seem controversial but it reminds me of the rise of

:09:07. > :09:09.Hitler. When Hitler was rising, people said, we will be able to stop

:09:10. > :09:13.this man when ever we want, there will be a moment when we just turn

:09:14. > :09:17.him off, and subsequently looked back and said, when was the moment

:09:18. > :09:20.we could have stopped him? The Republicans have been saying for a

:09:21. > :09:25.long time that he will fall by the wayside and he has not done yet. You

:09:26. > :09:31.do not think he should be banned. No. I don't want to see him here but

:09:32. > :09:36.I think banning him plays into the political correctness gone mad

:09:37. > :09:40.brigade. We want to show him that we are not like him. I do not like the

:09:41. > :09:45.way very right wing people feel they are the ones being criticised and

:09:46. > :09:48.marginalised by a rising multicultural society, and banning

:09:49. > :09:55.him might just give him another thing to allow other on about. Do

:09:56. > :10:02.you agree that he is a hate speaker and a fascist? I do. I would add

:10:03. > :10:06.that he is a massive full as well. Would you go that far? I don't think

:10:07. > :10:12.we have proof that he is a fascist, and I am not sure this is quite hate

:10:13. > :10:16.speech. I think it is on the verge, on the margins. But I do get quite

:10:17. > :10:20.worried about banning people for what they have said. And I think

:10:21. > :10:24.there has been quite a lot of that around this week, with remarks

:10:25. > :10:32.people have made about homosexuality and abortion. Why not get him over

:10:33. > :10:36.here if he wants to come? He tends to go to Scotland, but why not get

:10:37. > :10:43.him over here and take him on in debate instead of banning him? He is

:10:44. > :10:47.seeking to ban me from the United States and I have done nothing at

:10:48. > :10:50.all. I am asking that the UK Government is consistent in the

:10:51. > :10:55.approach to hate speakers. What Donald Trump did the other day was

:10:56. > :10:59.to say there should be a complete ban on Muslims entering the United

:11:00. > :11:01.States. When people behave in that way on UK soil, we have the

:11:02. > :11:07.opportunity to ban them from entering. That has happened on 84

:11:08. > :11:12.occasions. I have just come back from America and I watched him being

:11:13. > :11:15.interviewed on TV. In my view, the American interviews, even those on

:11:16. > :11:20.the more left-leaning channels, were rather soft with him. Why not put

:11:21. > :11:26.him on Question Time, get him on TV shows and give him a bit of British

:11:27. > :11:30.steely interviewing? He has been condemned across the United States

:11:31. > :11:34.and the Pentagon made the statement that if you are going to pit the

:11:35. > :11:39.Islamic religion against the United States, that does not deal with the

:11:40. > :11:44.values. Why not bring him here and subject into some British

:11:45. > :11:48.inquisition? Because the man is dangerous. He is on US soil espousal

:11:49. > :11:54.horrible virtues, talking about Muslims as if they are all bad

:11:55. > :11:57.people. We interviewed dangerous people all the time. Are you

:11:58. > :12:00.suggesting we should allow him to come to the UK and do the same thing

:12:01. > :12:05.when it is within our gift to prevent him doing so? We have done

:12:06. > :12:10.so on previous occasions. There was a Dutch MP who was banned from the

:12:11. > :12:16.UK. Why is Donald Trump different? Is it because he is a rich American

:12:17. > :12:19.man? When did you decide he was dangerous because not long ago your

:12:20. > :12:23.party and your leader Alex Salmond were cheerleaders for him. When he

:12:24. > :12:28.started talking about Muslims in such terms... Were you and Alex

:12:29. > :12:35.Salmond wrong to be cheerleaders for him? This is a serious issue. This

:12:36. > :12:40.is a dangerous mantle can about the entirety of a religion. But was it a

:12:41. > :12:45.mistake to embrace him in the way the SNP and the previous Labour

:12:46. > :12:50.Administration in Scotland did? If anybody knew that at this point in

:12:51. > :12:52.time we would be facing a potential leader of the United States who

:12:53. > :12:57.would want to ban an entire religion from entering the United States,

:12:58. > :13:02.what can I say to that? Nobody could predict he would behave in such a

:13:03. > :13:06.ridiculous manner. But you do know now. He is in the middle of a ?200

:13:07. > :13:10.million upgrade of a famous golf course on the West Coast and has

:13:11. > :13:16.talked of further investment in his Aberdeen golf course. Do you still

:13:17. > :13:21.want that investment in Scotland? This is not about money, Andrew. But

:13:22. > :13:28.do you want the investment? Lets see how Scotland has dealt with this.

:13:29. > :13:34.Nicola Sturgeon has removed... I am not asking you that. Do you want him

:13:35. > :13:40.to continue to invest in Scotland, or not, given that you think he is a

:13:41. > :13:44.dangerous man? I don't want to see Donald Trump in Scotland or the UK,

:13:45. > :13:50.and the UK Government has an opportunity... Do you want his

:13:51. > :13:55.money? No. The UK Government has an opportunity, as they have with other

:13:56. > :14:01.hate speakers... I want to be clear, you don't want him to continue to

:14:02. > :14:03.invest in Scotland? Unless he withdraws his remarks and apologises

:14:04. > :14:09.to the entirety of those who practice Islam, I don't want

:14:10. > :14:18.anything to do with him at all. We don't often get is clear is that

:14:19. > :14:21.from politicians. Are we to prone, Michael, for something we don't

:14:22. > :14:27.like, our default position is to ban it. It seems to be happening in

:14:28. > :14:30.universities quite regularly, even down to Germaine Greer being banned

:14:31. > :14:35.recently, and you cannot get more right on and progressive than her.

:14:36. > :14:38.Obviously there is a spectrum of things here and there are certain

:14:39. > :14:41.things that people would say, incitement to violence and so on,

:14:42. > :14:46.which would be a crime if uttered in this country. But I think that

:14:47. > :14:50.across the spectrum it is too easy to start to try to ban people who

:14:51. > :14:58.say things, either that we don't agree with, or that have passed from

:14:59. > :15:02.being fashionable. A few years ago it was perfectly possible to debate

:15:03. > :15:07.abortion, perfectly possible to debate homosexuality. Now it seems

:15:08. > :15:11.that if people have certain views on these subjects, they are to be, for

:15:12. > :15:17.example, excluded from being Sports Personality of the Year. It is

:15:18. > :15:21.nothing new. All that I am asking is that the UK Government is consistent

:15:22. > :15:25.in its approach. Why is it a different set of rules for Donald

:15:26. > :15:30.Trump and four other people? I think that is a bit naive. The reason it

:15:31. > :15:35.is different is that he may be President of the United States. So

:15:36. > :15:39.the way to get round this, let's be clear, is if I was a presidential

:15:40. > :15:42.candidate it would be all right for me to say such things but for

:15:43. > :15:45.ordinary people it is not all right and they should be banned? A

:15:46. > :15:48.different set of rules for different people.

:15:49. > :15:56.We have banned people not just for espousing violence, but the Dutch

:15:57. > :16:00.politician, there was a shock jock from America, Michael Savage, we did

:16:01. > :16:03.ban them from what they said, not because they were encouraging

:16:04. > :16:09.violence, so there is precedent for this. Yes but what Tasmina Aliza two

:16:10. > :16:13.things together, she said it's all right to say this, it's not all

:16:14. > :16:17.right, I said it's naive to think we were going to ban someone who might

:16:18. > :16:22.be president of the United States. You are not going to because

:16:23. > :16:25.systems. She makes a fair point, just because he's rich and has a

:16:26. > :16:29.high position in America, he should stand trial with his travels of the

:16:30. > :16:34.UK just exactly the same as anyone else and I totally agree with that.

:16:35. > :16:40.However, I do think we've gone a bit too far in running what people say

:16:41. > :16:44.and the sports personality. -- banning what people say. The boxer

:16:45. > :16:48.who said those horrible things about how women are better on their backs,

:16:49. > :16:51.he has a personality, I don't think he should be banned from going on

:16:52. > :16:56.sports personality, but he shouldn't win it. It's not the BBC who

:16:57. > :17:02.chooses, it is viewers who choose in the end who it is. We've got freedom

:17:03. > :17:08.of speech, are we should distinguish it have freedom of hate speech as

:17:09. > :17:12.well? These people come unstuck very quickly, when the BNP put leader

:17:13. > :17:17.went on Question Time everyone was up in arms but he totally bombed and

:17:18. > :17:24.it was a good thing. Then the BNP... I accept that, but what he is saying

:17:25. > :17:31.is that I... Would you ban Tyson Fury from being on the sports Palace

:17:32. > :17:36.does -- sports personality short list? His comments are really an

:17:37. > :17:39.acceptable. Would you ban him? I wouldn't like to see anyone like

:17:40. > :17:43.that getting an award for anything. If you are being intolerant in your

:17:44. > :17:49.behaviour. He would only get that if people vote for him. Should he be on

:17:50. > :17:53.the short list for people to be able to vote for him? I would rather he

:17:54. > :17:55.wasn't there. There are people in the House of Commons with those

:17:56. > :17:59.views. We better not go there in case you

:18:00. > :18:05.name someone! Her Majesty's lawyers will be looking. Tasmina, and you

:18:06. > :18:07.stay with us? I'd be delighted to stay.

:18:08. > :18:11.Which means a sleepless night, because waiting in the wings,

:18:12. > :18:15.From hit Channel Four show First Dates, maitre d' Fred Sirieix,

:18:16. > :18:18.and waitress CiCi Coleman are here to talk about personal chemistry.

:18:19. > :18:20.And remember, if you can't find a date tonight,

:18:21. > :18:23.you can express your lonely thoughts on the Twitter,

:18:24. > :18:26.the Fleecebook, and Gordon Brown's world wide web sphere.

:18:27. > :18:32.Now, Christmas came early for the Shadow Business Secretary

:18:33. > :18:35.this week, who's waited long for her moment in the political spotlight.

:18:36. > :18:37.On Wednesday, that moment arrived with bells and whistles,

:18:38. > :18:40.as Angela Eagle stood in for Comrade Corbyn

:18:41. > :18:43.at Prime Minister's Questions and put in a well-received

:18:44. > :18:45.performance against the boy-who-would-be-king,

:18:46. > :18:50.She even poked fun at Jezza's habit of quoting correspondence

:18:51. > :18:53.from the public, with a well-timed joke about the President

:18:54. > :18:57.of the European Council, Donald Tusk, I guess you had

:18:58. > :19:01.Perhaps Angela will be writing her own letter to Santa

:19:02. > :19:04.to ask for more PMQs outings in the new year.

:19:05. > :19:07.We sent the BBC's John Pienaar down to his own grotto

:19:08. > :19:10.at the Royal Albert Hall to find out.

:19:11. > :19:24.This is his roundup of the political week.

:19:25. > :19:34.Welcome to my little place here at the North Pole.

:19:35. > :19:49.Just be glad you don't live in Cumbria.

:19:50. > :19:52.I know, it's hard to be Christmassy when your home is under six

:19:53. > :19:56.And if you're one of those who believe humans are at least

:19:57. > :20:00.partly to blame for climate change - I know we can't all whizz

:20:01. > :20:02.about the skies on eco-friendly reindeer power - well,

:20:03. > :20:05.at least my little helper at the ministry seems

:20:06. > :20:09.The Environment Secretary's predecessor was, as we know,

:20:10. > :20:14.not someone prepared to acknowledge the risks posed by climate change.

:20:15. > :20:16.Does this Secretary of State agree that extreme weather events are,

:20:17. > :20:19.unfortunately, increasingly a feature of British weather,

:20:20. > :20:23.and that Government policy has to adapt accordingly?

:20:24. > :20:26.The honourable lady is absolutely right about the extreme weather

:20:27. > :20:31.As we say, it is consistent with the trends we are seeing

:20:32. > :20:42.Although I suppose a bucket would be more useful right now.

:20:43. > :20:46.Labour MPs were very cheery this week.

:20:47. > :20:49.No, not just because Jeremy was having a break while Dave

:20:50. > :20:55.Angela was standing in, teasing Dave about trying to get

:20:56. > :21:00.a deal in Europe and threatening to take Britain's ball home.

:21:01. > :21:03.She even used Jeremy's "I've got a letter" technique.

:21:04. > :21:25.And he writes, "uncertainty about the future

:21:26. > :21:31.of the UK in the European Union is a destabilising factor".

:21:32. > :21:35.While we are quoting missives, there is someone called Tony

:21:36. > :21:40.Happens to be the most successful Labour leader in history,

:21:41. > :21:43.and he is describing the Labour Party is a complete

:21:44. > :21:48.Mr Speaker, I prefer this quote from Tony.

:21:49. > :21:52."Just mouth the words "five more Tory years" and you feel your senses

:21:53. > :22:00.and reason riposte by what they've done to our country".

:22:01. > :22:06.# Santa, honey, one thing I really need... #

:22:07. > :22:11.He's been greeting his new MP after the Oldham by-election,

:22:12. > :22:15.as proof that voters like him more than most of his MPs.

:22:16. > :22:18.True, Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer is more of a Corbynista

:22:19. > :22:25.than the new MP, Jim McMahon, but a win is a win.

:22:26. > :22:31.Jeremy and Jim because Labour won, and George Osborne because, well,

:22:32. > :22:35.Labour won, and that means Jeremy's going nowhere, the one thing

:22:36. > :22:40.Jeremy's friends and enemies can all agree on.

:22:41. > :22:46.Now let's take Jim in to start work on opposing this Tory Government.

:22:47. > :22:48.At Tory headquarters, Lord Feldman is still there

:22:49. > :22:51.as chairman, but the pressure is building over allegations

:22:52. > :22:55.of bullying, after a young activist sadly took his own life.

:22:56. > :22:58.The young man's father, wants the party chairman,

:22:59. > :23:01.who is also David Cameron's friend, to go.

:23:02. > :23:03.It's quite clear to me that David Cameron is

:23:04. > :23:08.He should consider where his loyalty should be.

:23:09. > :23:11.Should be to his friend, or should it be to justice?

:23:12. > :23:14.No amount of goodwill from Number Ten will make this one

:23:15. > :23:24.But if you want to get everyone at Westminster singing

:23:25. > :23:27.from the same carol sheet, just mention Donald Trump.

:23:28. > :23:31.In all fairness, he does say he is no bigot, but I must say,

:23:32. > :23:34.whether or not Donald Trump is a bigot, he will certainly do

:23:35. > :23:41.I think the best way to confront the views of someone

:23:42. > :23:45.like Donald Trump is to engage in a robust, democratic argument

:23:46. > :23:49.with him about why he is profoundly wrong about the contribution

:23:50. > :23:52.of American Muslims and indeed British Muslims.

:23:53. > :23:56.And that is the best way to deal with Donald Trump and his views.

:23:57. > :24:08.# Santa, cutie, fill my stocking with a duplex and cheques

:24:09. > :24:13.# Sign your X on the line, Santa cutie

:24:14. > :24:17.# And hurry down the chimney tonight... #

:24:18. > :24:19.I must say, I've never seen a British Government tear

:24:20. > :24:21.into a presidential wannabe like that.

:24:22. > :24:24.But then there's never been a presidential wannabe quite

:24:25. > :24:28.like young Donald, or a Tory leadership quite so keen and eager

:24:29. > :24:32.to appear centre ground and socially liberal.

:24:33. > :24:35.Don't ask me to take sides, I'm Santa, and I've got enough

:24:36. > :24:42.In any case, Donald says he has lots of Muslim friends.

:24:43. > :24:50.I expect he's inviting them all over for Christmas carols.

:24:51. > :24:53.# I'll wait up for you, dear

:24:54. > :24:55.# Santa, baby, so hurry down the chimney tonight...

:24:56. > :25:09.You know, it's more fun here than a Stop The War Christmas dinner.

:25:10. > :25:20.Father Christmas there with a little help from John Pienaar

:25:21. > :25:27.at his magical grotto at the Royal Albert Hall.

:25:28. > :25:38.Other grottos are available, I'm told. Tampa -- Tasmina is with us

:25:39. > :25:42.here. As we watched PMQs, it seemed as though what was going on really

:25:43. > :25:46.cheered at the Labour benches. Is that right? Her performance was

:25:47. > :25:50.absolutely magnificent and George Osborne was nowhere near as good as

:25:51. > :25:56.David Cameron is, he has a good many years of practice in front of him.

:25:57. > :26:01.Both times George has had to do it, he has missed the mood of the house

:26:02. > :26:05.somehow and doesn't play to it. But Angela was totally composed and

:26:06. > :26:10.whilst I did get a few punches it felt like we were landing punches on

:26:11. > :26:16.them. After last week, it was bound to raise the chair. What happened on

:26:17. > :26:23.Wednesday that was missing in previous weeks? There's an obvious

:26:24. > :26:29.thing... I'm not very smart. Spell it out for me. I think Jeremy has

:26:30. > :26:32.been a lot better at PMQs than most people expected. The geography

:26:33. > :26:38.teacher star has become legendary. But I think one has to brace

:26:39. > :26:43.yourself when you are in BM cues from both sides about what is going

:26:44. > :26:46.to be said -- PMQs. A lot of that was said to Angela but she took it

:26:47. > :26:50.in her stride. It's quite personal when they are attacking Corbyn and

:26:51. > :26:55.you think, oh gosh, what is going to be said. What did you make of Angela

:26:56. > :26:59.Eagle's performance? I thought she did quite well. Osborne did not have

:27:00. > :27:03.a good PMQs on Wednesday, not least because Angela approached him and

:27:04. > :27:08.when Angus Robertson ask a couple of questions about the transfer of

:27:09. > :27:11.nuclear material from Dounreay to Wick, he had no idea what we were

:27:12. > :27:15.talking about and that was very clear from his answer. If you are at

:27:16. > :27:18.the dispatch box you need to know what's happening with nuclear

:27:19. > :27:25.material across the country and he was completely lost. He wasn't

:27:26. > :27:28.across his brief at all. One of the roles of Prime Minister's Questions,

:27:29. > :27:31.for either the Leader of the Opposition or the Prime Minister, is

:27:32. > :27:39.although it's not watched by millions and millions, it's the lift

:27:40. > :27:45.the enthusiasm, the confidence, the esprit de corps of your own side and

:27:46. > :27:49.Mr Osborne didn't really do that. I agree, he's not very relaxed in the

:27:50. > :27:51.position and that's what made Angela Eagle's performance so

:27:52. > :27:55.extraordinary. I was watching the clip, her sense of timing when she

:27:56. > :28:00.talks about, I have a letter from Donald of Brussels, and she allows

:28:01. > :28:03.the House to laugh, she waits for it, takes her time, then delivers

:28:04. > :28:08.the next line, absolute composure. It's very difficult to be so

:28:09. > :28:13.composed in those situations. If you've never done it before, either.

:28:14. > :28:18.Exactly, which is extraordinary. George hasn't done it often and it

:28:19. > :28:23.shows. How important, this time last week, we were gearing up for the old

:28:24. > :28:27.by-election which fortunately finished by 1:30am, the good people

:28:28. > :28:33.of Oldham had account quickly, how important was that result in shoring

:28:34. > :28:36.up all consolidating Mr Corbyn's position? Well, I think the whole

:28:37. > :28:39.atmosphere in Westminster this week is completely different from the

:28:40. > :28:43.atmosphere last week. Obviously there was lots of fractious

:28:44. > :28:48.goings-on last week over the Syria vote and we did have a divide in our

:28:49. > :28:53.party, a very clear divide, that can be written on a list. This week, Jim

:28:54. > :28:58.was there, he was being sworn in, there was a happy feeling, and it

:28:59. > :29:03.took quite a lot of the flak off Jeremy actually and whilst people

:29:04. > :29:06.have been trying to get the Stop the War thing to run and run it seemed

:29:07. > :29:10.to fall flat and Westminster was more cheerful so it did him a huge

:29:11. > :29:14.amount of favours this week. Isn't it in the SNP's interests for Mr

:29:15. > :29:20.Corbyn to consolidate his position, or is it better that things are seen

:29:21. > :29:25.to fall apart, because there are 56 SNP, two have lost the whip, at

:29:26. > :29:30.least 54, who, you can see ourselves as being a formidable opposition? If

:29:31. > :29:36.Mr Corbyn becomes that, then you don't? We've been described as the

:29:37. > :29:40.effective opposition foreign number of weeks now and I'd seek to deny

:29:41. > :29:43.just a victory in the Oldham by-election but it was telling when

:29:44. > :29:46.Angela Eagle went to the dispatch box there was a resounding cheer

:29:47. > :29:50.from the Labour benches and although Jeremy Corbyn is leader of the

:29:51. > :29:54.Labour party I don't believe he's leading the Labour Party and they

:29:55. > :29:58.are deeply divided. It's for them to get their act together. While that

:29:59. > :30:02.is still ongoing there needs to be an effective opposition at

:30:03. > :30:05.Westminster holding this government to who are having a relentless

:30:06. > :30:09.assault on the poor and vulnerable of this country and we are stepping

:30:10. > :30:12.up to the plate. I would have said the Oldham by-election as a tactical

:30:13. > :30:19.success of the strategic disaster for the Labour Party because... It

:30:20. > :30:24.means nothing, Ewan-macro in a safe Labour seat. If you had lost it

:30:25. > :30:27.would have meant something. Jeremy Corbyn is more entrenched and as far

:30:28. > :30:32.as you're concerned he is the problem so the problem has been

:30:33. > :30:36.cemented in position. Let's speak of a Tory problem, it seems to get

:30:37. > :30:40.bigger and bigger, and that's Europe and the renegotiation, and the lead

:30:41. > :30:45.up to the referendum. Does anybody by this speech from the Prime

:30:46. > :30:46.Minister that if he doesn't get his way he's going to lead the out

:30:47. > :31:00.campaign? I'm not aware of anyone believing

:31:01. > :31:05.that. You don't believe it either. It is impossible to believe, yes. I

:31:06. > :31:13.would suggest the European leaders know that as well. Of course. So not

:31:14. > :31:17.a good negotiating position. No, that is where he started and that is

:31:18. > :31:21.where he is now. From the beginning he made clear he wants to keep

:31:22. > :31:26.Britain in the EU, so from the beginning he has undermined his

:31:27. > :31:31.negotiating position. Is he getting anywhere in negotiations? Not that I

:31:32. > :31:35.am aware. It feels like his swansong. If he falls apart on your

:31:36. > :31:41.people say, I said I was going to go, goodbye. This is the problem for

:31:42. > :31:45.Mr Cameron, because if it goes pear shaped from his point of view on

:31:46. > :31:53.Europe, that is probably the end of his career on -- as Prime Minister.

:31:54. > :31:59.How unfortunate! Yes, it is impossible to imagine he would

:32:00. > :32:03.survive that, particularly because we would only vote to leave the EU,

:32:04. > :32:07.I assume, if the majority of the English had voted for it and

:32:08. > :32:12.probably a minority of the Scots. The next thing would be a new demand

:32:13. > :32:19.for a referendum in Scotland. Would there be? Well, if we are dragged

:32:20. > :32:22.out of the EU against our will there is a much a case for the Scots

:32:23. > :32:25.saying, we want to do things ourselves. David Cameron at the

:32:26. > :32:29.moment is creating nothing but enemies, acting like a spoiled

:32:30. > :32:33.schoolboy, at a time when we are involved in conflict and have a

:32:34. > :32:38.refugee situation, when we should be working together, not against each

:32:39. > :32:43.other. You all agreed that things are not going well for him and I

:32:44. > :32:46.understand that. But if this country voted to leave, and I know that in

:32:47. > :32:53.Downing Street they are more worried of that than they were couple of

:32:54. > :32:57.months ago because he has kind of lost control, I agree. So if it goes

:32:58. > :33:03.the wrong way from his point of view and we vote to leave, but Scotland

:33:04. > :33:07.had actually voted to stay in, but a majority of England voted to leave

:33:08. > :33:11.and the numbers meant we had a majority to leave, would that

:33:12. > :33:17.trigger, in your view, a second referendum? Would the SNP demand a

:33:18. > :33:20.second referendum? That would demonstrate again how we look at

:33:21. > :33:24.things in different ways and have different aspirations for our

:33:25. > :33:30.country of Scotland. It has been mentioned before, it certainly could

:33:31. > :33:32.be considered as a trigger. But it would not automatically trigger a

:33:33. > :33:36.referendum because there are a number of things you have to go

:33:37. > :33:39.through. First, it has to be in your manifesto, then you have two win an

:33:40. > :33:46.election, to be the government, and then you have to win the referendum.

:33:47. > :33:51.We will get the sense if the people of Scotland want that. Surely,

:33:52. > :33:54.Nicola Sturgeon if, as the polls suggest she will be re-elected and

:33:55. > :34:01.the SNP will still be running Holyrood, if she wanted a referendum

:34:02. > :34:07.she could call 41. She could, as a result of the European referendum.

:34:08. > :34:09.This may be a referendum but we act as a democracy and Nicola is a

:34:10. > :34:14.Democrat and will not make a decision on her own. She will speak

:34:15. > :34:18.to the people and take a feel of what they want to do. If the opinion

:34:19. > :34:23.polls show you would not win, you would not hold one. Another

:34:24. > :34:30.revelation, we knock on doors in Scotland and speak to people. I

:34:31. > :34:36.worked that out. They do in Birmingham, too. Michael does not

:34:37. > :34:41.knock on doors. I don't any more. I think the two of you underestimate

:34:42. > :34:45.the situation. It is not only that we are going to vote to leave, it is

:34:46. > :34:50.that we would then leave. It is such a change, it rewrites the political

:34:51. > :34:55.landscape completely. I think the way you are saying, we would have to

:34:56. > :35:00.take a view, of course Scottish people would say, we demand a

:35:01. > :35:03.referendum. It is not just as simple as saying, see you later. Thank you

:35:04. > :35:06.for being with us. Now, the reason This Week is so god

:35:07. > :35:09.damn popular is no mystery - Whether it's Michael

:35:10. > :35:12.Portillo and Alan Johnson, Michael Portillo and Gisela Stuart,

:35:13. > :35:17.or just Michael Portillo the This Week camera lens has

:35:18. > :35:24.got pretty damn steamy. And that's before we've even

:35:25. > :35:25.mentioned Diane Abbott, who hadn't known a love like Michael

:35:26. > :35:29.since that East German motorbike holiday she took with Comrade Corbyn

:35:30. > :35:35.back in the late 70s. And you know what they say

:35:36. > :35:37.about East German motorbike holidays - what happens behind

:35:38. > :35:40.the Berlin Wall, stays behind That's why we're putting

:35:41. > :35:44.the politics of "personal chemistry" There is only one happiness in this

:35:45. > :35:55.life - to love and to be loved. Lessons in love, but do politicians

:35:56. > :35:59.need to learn a thing or two They've been connected for years,

:36:00. > :36:06.but will Jezza stand up Stop The Labour leader's guest of honour

:36:07. > :36:11.at the group's annual Christmas party, proving that

:36:12. > :36:13.even if his Parliamentary party They say a close relationship

:36:14. > :36:20.is about give and take. David Cameron celebrated his 10th

:36:21. > :36:25.anniversary as Tory leader this week by letting his nearest and dearest

:36:26. > :36:30.take his place at PMQs. To leave his best friend in the best

:36:31. > :36:34.position to replace him. I think my right honourable friend

:36:35. > :36:37.the Prime Minister did But does a winning

:36:38. > :36:39.formula in politics... ..always mean good chemistry

:36:40. > :36:42.in person? It certainly got icy between this

:36:43. > :36:46.duo, after they moved So when it comes to chemistry

:36:47. > :36:53.on a big date, maybe you should just Just ask the staff at

:36:54. > :36:58.the First Dates restaurant, who've seen more crazy

:36:59. > :37:02.experiments than most. Do you have any political

:37:03. > :37:04.views yourself? I shouldn't say it as if it's

:37:05. > :37:13.a dirty secret. The This Week chemistry lab -

:37:14. > :37:15.always causing strong And I'm joined in the This Week

:37:16. > :37:39.restuarant by CiCi Coleman You throw together two complete

:37:40. > :37:43.strangers in a restaurant, both single and looking for love. And you

:37:44. > :37:49.then from the encounter. It sounds really awkward. Well, it is awkward,

:37:50. > :37:53.slightly. When you have an understanding of what you are doing,

:37:54. > :37:59.you know you are going on a date, so you are preparing yourself. It is

:38:00. > :38:05.awkward but it doesn't need to be awkward. Can you tell if people are

:38:06. > :38:07.going to hit it off? When they come in the door, yes, sometimes you have

:38:08. > :38:13.a strong inclination that it is going to work. The way people look

:38:14. > :38:18.at you, their body language, I contact, and the vibe they give you.

:38:19. > :38:22.Somebody walks into the restaurant and you see straightaway that it is

:38:23. > :38:32.going to work or not. You can tell. Can you tell, too? I like to think I

:38:33. > :38:37.can. I have an idea. What kind hit it off, and is it because they are

:38:38. > :38:43.similar, like-minded, same interests, or are there examples of

:38:44. > :38:48.opposites attract? There are so many elements to why people like each

:38:49. > :38:53.other. You could talk about anything. You could have a

:38:54. > :38:56.connection, or no connection, in terms of different star signs, your

:38:57. > :39:01.parents are from different areas, whatever. But if you have that thing

:39:02. > :39:07.called chemistry, then you can't deny that. It is real. You can't

:39:08. > :39:11.deny that. There must be examples of one of the two thinking, we are

:39:12. > :39:19.getting on like a house on fire, and the other one can't wait to get out.

:39:20. > :39:24.It does happen. What Cici is saying about chemistry, it is unconscious.

:39:25. > :39:28.You cannot control it, it happens or does not. Sometimes chemistry can be

:39:29. > :39:33.short lived, and it may be just that you are very excited. It does not to

:39:34. > :39:36.be sexual, you just want to have a conversation because you are

:39:37. > :39:40.interested to find out more and go deeper into what they have to say.

:39:41. > :39:47.With others, it may be just last chemistry. The one I am interested

:39:48. > :39:50.in is long-term chemistry, where you want a relationship, not necessarily

:39:51. > :39:54.with a man a woman you want to have sex with. It can just be a

:39:55. > :39:57.relationship where you want to connect and have deep, meaningful

:39:58. > :40:05.conversation. It is about that connection. You have the cameras

:40:06. > :40:09.running, each side, if they fancy the other side, they are trying to

:40:10. > :40:14.impress the other side as well. It is kind of artificial, is it not?

:40:15. > :40:19.When people walk in, they know they are coming on a TV programme but it

:40:20. > :40:23.is a first date. They walked in and the cameras are on the side and you

:40:24. > :40:29.can see them but after a while you forget about it. People actually

:40:30. > :40:33.genuinely wants to find love. When they are just talking, even though

:40:34. > :40:39.some people may be controlled, they completely open up. This is what you

:40:40. > :40:42.see and the beauty of the programme, it is almost like anthropology, the

:40:43. > :40:48.study of people, a social experiment. It is warm and beautiful

:40:49. > :40:51.to watch, isn't it? One of the singletons was so nervous that he

:40:52. > :40:59.thought the way to break the ice was to talk about politics. Liberal

:41:00. > :41:05.Democrat, works every time! Jess, you have been on a blind date with

:41:06. > :41:10.649 other MPs, since you are new to Parliament. Any political or

:41:11. > :41:16.personal chemistry going? I have you -- I hear you have a thing for Jacob

:41:17. > :41:21.Rees-Mogg. Here's a man who in the Venn diagram of things we agree on,

:41:22. > :41:27.we could not find one single one. But he is so well brought up. He

:41:28. > :41:30.opens the door for you and stuff. I have never known anyone do that sort

:41:31. > :41:37.of thing. He is really lovely and we definitely have chemistry. But your

:41:38. > :41:42.show is amazing. I love it. It is so awkward, sometimes it is brilliant.

:41:43. > :41:47.It is the awkward bit that you like? I like it when people do not know

:41:48. > :41:53.what to say and they say things like, I am a Liberal Democrat. Any

:41:54. > :41:59.political relationships at work because of chemistry? Diane Abbott

:42:00. > :42:06.and me. We have known each other for a very long time, and if you have

:42:07. > :42:10.done that, you are likely to have chemistry. Chemistry is about

:42:11. > :42:13.sincerity and confidence and strong self-esteem and knowing who you are.

:42:14. > :42:17.You can share something and be on the same level. You have to have

:42:18. > :42:23.that grounding, otherwise you can't share anything because one is here

:42:24. > :42:35.and one is down here. Any chemistry here? Jess has got her legs crossed

:42:36. > :42:41.the wrong way. I like trains! Half of you is all right. David and

:42:42. > :42:48.George, that is chemistry. That is important chemistry. Maybe some of

:42:49. > :42:53.it has to rub off from Mr Cameron to Mr Osborne. Just before we go, Fred,

:42:54. > :43:00.I am told you have a pop-up restaurant at Thamesmead prison.

:43:01. > :43:05.Today I was there at 9am. We opened a pop-up in Thamesmead. It is the

:43:06. > :43:10.launch of a new charity called a clean slate to open pop-up

:43:11. > :43:12.restaurants and teach people the skill of the hospitality industry

:43:13. > :43:19.and the value of the hospitality industry. We opened it with 20

:43:20. > :43:25.prisoners. And then we cooked for 40 guests. It was unbelievable, the

:43:26. > :43:28.energy. The prisoners were so observant and they were listening

:43:29. > :43:32.and so attentive to everything we did and said. The good thing is that

:43:33. > :43:35.some of them are going to be released shortly. One is released

:43:36. > :43:39.tomorrow and he is going to give me a call and hopefully we can get him

:43:40. > :43:45.a job, depending on what he is looking for. And there are vacancies

:43:46. > :43:49.available? In the industry there are so many vacancies and you cannot

:43:50. > :43:52.find staff. It is important to find people from this country because

:43:53. > :43:56.there has never been a better time to be in the industry. You cannot

:43:57. > :44:01.find waiters, chefs, managers. People can earn up to ?40,000

:44:02. > :44:08.easily. And the average salary in the UK is 18,000. Hopefully we can

:44:09. > :44:13.open more around the country. And U2 are together now, on the sofa. We

:44:14. > :44:15.have chemistry, but not that kind of chemistry.

:44:16. > :44:20.Because it's the annual Stop the War Christmas disco

:44:21. > :44:23.We're off to pull Comrade Corbyn's cracker and blame Western

:44:24. > :44:26.intervention for the fact that there's never any toilet paper

:44:27. > :44:41.The TV equivalent of the Government's position on a third

:44:42. > :45:08.Nighty night - don't let the total void bite.

:45:09. > :45:11.Said, "I love Christmas pudding and would not go without