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:00:00. > :00:21.As we say farewell to the voice of Lady Penelope,

:00:22. > :00:37.Will International Rescue be needed as President Putin surprises many

:00:38. > :00:43.Foreign Affairs expert, Tim Marshall, thinks

:00:44. > :00:45.the Russian President is pulling the strings.

:00:46. > :00:47.If Thunderbird are go, and let's say Nato, and Putin

:00:48. > :00:53.is the Hood, only one of them is ahead of the game.

:00:54. > :00:56.Chancellor George Osborne delivers his eighth Budget.

:00:57. > :00:59.But has the Government's 'Brains' out-smarted himself?

:01:00. > :01:01.The Economist's, Lady Penelope, Anne McElvoy, is our special

:01:02. > :01:08.The Chancellor's been staring into a black hole of lower growth

:01:09. > :01:11.forecasts and missed targets, but can he pull off a rescue mission

:01:12. > :01:27.We'll be talking the politics of paying for sex.

:01:28. > :01:29.Piloting This Week 3, presenter and film-maker,

:01:30. > :01:38.I just hope I make it back to Stacey Island in one piece.

:01:39. > :02:04.Because tonight we bring you a Wild West London desperado

:02:05. > :02:06.who lives outside the confines of polite society

:02:07. > :02:09.and the Charter for Budget Responsibility.

:02:10. > :02:12.Behold, The Outlaw Gideon 'Boy George' Osborne.

:02:13. > :02:18.Leader of the ?56 billion Black Hole-in-the-Wall Gang.

:02:19. > :02:22.As we speak, Most Wanted posters are plastered across Westminster

:02:23. > :02:26.for a menace-to-society, who's broken two of the Government's

:02:27. > :02:32.rules, and the jury's still out 50-50 on the third.

:02:33. > :02:34.Inviting the question - has an arrest warrant been

:02:35. > :02:40.Because what's the point of introducing a legal duty to cap

:02:41. > :02:43.welfare spending and to reduce debt as a share of GDP

:02:44. > :02:46.if, when you break the rules, nobody is held to account,

:02:47. > :02:52.nobody is found guilty and nobody goes to jail?

:02:53. > :02:58.If only there was an honest man, prepared to call for serious legal

:02:59. > :03:02.sanctions against the fiscal bad guys.

:03:03. > :03:10.to see so-called budget 'responsibility' acts as instruments

:03:11. > :03:12."of the fiscally irresponsible to con the public."

:03:13. > :03:14.And man brave enough to state that "a law introduced by Parliament that

:03:15. > :03:20.contains absolutely no legal sanction whatsoever for those

:03:21. > :03:25.who break it" was "absolutely ridiculous."

:03:26. > :03:39.But he was Shadow Chancellor at the time.

:03:40. > :03:49.Where are my handcuffs, call the cops, he's nicked.

:03:50. > :03:53.I'm joined on the sofa tonight by two of the sweetest

:03:54. > :03:57.Think of them as the Sugar Tax and the Sugar Daddy of late-night

:03:58. > :04:05.I speak, of course, of #manontheleft Alan 'AJ' Johnson

:04:06. > :04:08.and #sadmanonatrain Michael 'choo choo' Portillo.

:04:09. > :04:22.Your thought of the week? If David Cameron survives the referendum if

:04:23. > :04:26.he announces another runway, Boris is now the favourite to succeed. If

:04:27. > :04:29.Boris said, I will not do that, the thing is dead in the water. No-one

:04:30. > :04:33.will invest in an airport that the next Prime Minister is going to

:04:34. > :04:38.scrap. Don't you think Mr Cameron might want to do it as a revenge

:04:39. > :04:43.against Boris? I am - that is a possibility. I'm beginning to think

:04:44. > :04:46.that the greater likelihood is they will have to announce Gatwick. That

:04:47. > :04:50.is something Boris wouldn't feel obliged to scrap. My point is that,

:04:51. > :04:53.just as happened to Tony Blair, as happens to all Prime Ministers who

:04:54. > :04:58.announce they are going to go, there is a massive loss of power. It's

:04:59. > :05:01.like the air going out of a balloon. After the referendum, if he

:05:02. > :05:05.survives, every decision that Cameron makes people will say - I

:05:06. > :05:11.wonder what Boris thinks about that. Interesting. Alan. Is I will help

:05:12. > :05:16.him survive. Yes. The Budget contained a statement that has

:05:17. > :05:23.nothing to do with fiscal policy it. Was about schools and academies. The

:05:24. > :05:25.idea that every school becomes an academy, local authorities have

:05:26. > :05:30.nothing to do with schools, which they don't in the main on secondary

:05:31. > :05:33.schools, this is primary schools, is strange, given that, in my neck of

:05:34. > :05:38.the woods, Yorkshire and the Humber have not had a good Ofsted round.

:05:39. > :05:42.Ofsted write to the local authority and the three MPs and say - we'd

:05:43. > :05:50.like a meeting with you about education in your area. We have no

:05:51. > :05:56.input into education in our area. We would like to see the Secretary of

:05:57. > :05:58.State. It's a mistake, local authorities, not as providers, as

:05:59. > :06:02.commissioners of education in the way the great London challenge was

:06:03. > :06:07.worked, local authorities had a key role in that, and I think there's a

:06:08. > :06:12.contrast between Osborne saying that, and then saying - we're going

:06:13. > :06:16.to he devolve all kind of things. You know, the Probation Service.

:06:17. > :06:20.Criminal justice moving to Manchester Health devolved in some

:06:21. > :06:25.areas. In a strange way education is being sucked into the centre. That

:06:26. > :06:30.strikes me as a paradox. Every town will have its own militia. Did

:06:31. > :06:36.Gordon Brown make all your big education announcements? Not

:06:37. > :06:43.education, everythingelse. He left education to others Very well.

:06:44. > :06:45.Now, President Putin surprised just about everybody this week

:06:46. > :06:47.by beginning the partial withdrawal of Russian military

:06:48. > :06:49.British Foreign Secretary, Philip Hammond, played

:06:50. > :06:51.down its significance, saying it was the equivalent

:06:52. > :06:54.of a man who has merely stopped "beating his wife."

:06:55. > :06:57.But Syria has not turned out to be the quagmire for Russia many,

:06:58. > :06:59.from President Obama down, predicted and the Kremlin is now

:07:00. > :07:01.calling many of the shots in the region.

:07:02. > :07:04.Here's the former diplomatic and foreign affairs editor

:07:05. > :07:13.of Sky News, Tim Marshall, with his take of the week.

:07:14. > :07:45.It doesn't always work, but this week Russian President

:07:46. > :07:47.and judo expert, Vladimir Putin, wrongfooted his opponents yet again.

:07:48. > :07:59.# Baby, baby...# military from Syria.

:08:00. > :08:02.Unlike in judo, Putin signalled his intentions.

:08:03. > :08:05.Last year he said Russian engagement would be limited in time

:08:06. > :08:09.and would support Syria's army against what he described

:08:10. > :08:12.as terrorist groups and this would be from the air,

:08:13. > :08:16.not the ground and that mostly is what happened.

:08:17. > :08:36.# You've got to feel it...# Putin is not a mere tactician,

:08:37. > :08:40.Putin has bombed his and President Assad's way

:08:41. > :08:42.to the negotiating table and, this week, the peace talks

:08:43. > :08:51.And by showing that his support is not open-ended, Putin has hinted

:08:52. > :08:55.to Assad that he needs to compromise and so the Russian President

:08:56. > :08:59.is playing the responsible, sober statesman.

:09:00. > :09:08.Any deal that eventually emerges will have to ensure that there's

:09:09. > :09:12.a leader in Damascus who is not hostile to Moscow.

:09:13. > :09:15.That leader would have to accept that Russia can keep its port

:09:16. > :09:21.and lifting the Ukraine-related sanctions against Russia would be

:09:22. > :09:30.Russia also tested a lot of its new military equipment and it

:09:31. > :09:36.It's re-established itself as a player in the Middle East.

:09:37. > :09:52.Very Putin, although many of the ground forces will leave,

:09:53. > :09:54.Putin will leave behind several hundred troops,

:09:55. > :09:56.also intelligence officers and specials forces.

:09:57. > :10:00.He needs to guard Russia's port and airstrip.

:10:01. > :10:06.So Putin did not rush blindly into Syria, biting off more

:10:07. > :10:09.than he can chew, and the bear is not about to rush off

:10:10. > :10:11.home without making sure its cubs are safe.

:10:12. > :10:25.From the Budokwai Martial Arts Club in Chelsea to our own little judo

:10:26. > :10:27.mat here in the heart of Westminster.

:10:28. > :10:38.Welcome back. Well done in there. Don't push me, Andrew. I will be

:10:39. > :10:43.very nice to you. Did Mr Putin outmanoeuvre the West again with his

:10:44. > :10:47.withdrawal? Yes. I believe he did. I don't understand the media coverage

:10:48. > :10:53.about why it was a surprise. I said to you on one of the programmes,

:10:54. > :11:00.last year, that it would be limited. My phrase for it, an IKEA operation

:11:01. > :11:03.shall. Flat-pack, pick it up and take it home. The idea of

:11:04. > :11:08.Afghanistan was a nonsense. The money they were spending was minute

:11:09. > :11:12.compared to what the Americans were spending in Afghanistan. The evil

:11:13. > :11:15.genius of what he has done, he has made sure that Assad cannot lose.

:11:16. > :11:20.Not that Assad can win. But that he can't lose. And, it follows on from

:11:21. > :11:23.that in a few months time, everyone else will get that. Once they get

:11:24. > :11:29.that Assad can't lose you have to at some point go to the peace table. I

:11:30. > :11:32.don't know if they are ready yet. He has positioned everybody else into

:11:33. > :11:38.that position that Assad can't lose, we had better talk. President Assad

:11:39. > :11:42.shouldn't be worried. This isn't a sign he is expendable? He is very

:11:43. > :11:48.expendable. He can be thrown under a bus at any point. Putin needs to

:11:49. > :11:54.find the right replacement figure, an Alawite or a Sunni inside Syria

:11:55. > :11:59.that can rule and be acceptable and acceptable to Moscow to give them

:12:00. > :12:04.the port and to give them the airstrip. That leads to the next

:12:05. > :12:07.bit, which is he's also manoeuvred people to talking about a Federal

:12:08. > :12:11.Syria. At one point - absolute slid off the cards. Assad had to go

:12:12. > :12:15.immediately. They have moved and said, not straightaway. The US

:12:16. > :12:19.Secretary of State has been taebging to the Russian Foreign Secretary

:12:20. > :12:24.about a Federal idea? Two things fundamental have changed since Putin

:12:25. > :12:29.started this last September. He has manoeuvred the opponents to accept

:12:30. > :12:32.that Assad can have some sort of transition period. Still has to

:12:33. > :12:37.gshgs of course. Before they were saying, he's got to go now.

:12:38. > :12:42.Secondly, they are talking about a potential of a Federalised country.

:12:43. > :12:46.You know, in two ways he has done that judo move, if you like, he has

:12:47. > :12:52.some very good arms contracts out of it. As events unfold you get a

:12:53. > :13:00.feeling the West is largely a spectator You do. I think that Tim's

:13:01. > :13:05.analysis is right. I've never felt that the defeat was in our best

:13:06. > :13:09.interests. The defeat of Assad was in our best interests. It seems to

:13:10. > :13:15.me there's a kind of good Putin and a bad Putin. We are hearing this

:13:16. > :13:20.week, you know, which one is he? I tend to think he never wanted Assad

:13:21. > :13:27.to go, but he didn't want victory for the forces against him. I mean,

:13:28. > :13:32.what seems to have happened is, we haven't touched Daesh, IS, Islamic

:13:33. > :13:36.State, which was one of his stated ambitions, of course he still has

:13:37. > :13:42.about 1,000 personnel staying. He has special forces - military

:13:43. > :13:47.advisers. He has ships. So he has certainly not gone home. I think

:13:48. > :13:53.he's found the right moment to actually withdraw. I agree - I think

:13:54. > :13:59.it's - what's surprising is that it's a surprise.

:14:00. > :14:09.Do you agree that Putin is a good strategist? I do. If anything, Tim

:14:10. > :14:13.understated Putin's achievement. We have been involved in a lot of

:14:14. > :14:18.operations principally from the air with limited success. Its operation

:14:19. > :14:21.from the air, it seems to have had considerable success, despite

:14:22. > :14:25.killing a large knob of civilians, which has been appalling. One of the

:14:26. > :14:30.reasons people thought he wouldn't get out of it, is that most Western

:14:31. > :14:35.interventions before and even Soviet ones in the past have got bogged

:14:36. > :14:39.down. The fact he managed not to get bogged down is a significant

:14:40. > :14:42.achievement. As for the non-activity of the west, what is happening at

:14:43. > :14:48.the moment is that John Kerry appears to be, as it were, invited

:14:49. > :14:51.to talk to Putin rather than the other way round. It is clear who the

:14:52. > :14:58.ringmaster is. Federalisation is also an interesting aspect, the

:14:59. > :15:05.Russians seem to have the courage -- to have encouraged the discussion of

:15:06. > :15:09.three Kurdish provinces to become a quasi-autonomous part of Syria. The

:15:10. > :15:13.west really has to think this one through, because this is anathema to

:15:14. > :15:18.Turkey, who do not want to see any furtherance of Kurdish aspirations,

:15:19. > :15:24.and we may have an uncomfortable choice. In another part of the game,

:15:25. > :15:27.as we know, we are trying to appease Turkey over the migrant crisis and

:15:28. > :15:31.we are also trying to have a negotiation with the Russians. They

:15:32. > :15:39.are now proposing something in Syria which will annoy the Turks

:15:40. > :15:48.considerably. We will betray the Kurds, eventually. To stay onside

:15:49. > :15:52.with Turkey? Yes, but they are the bigger player. It happened after the

:15:53. > :15:58.war. At the moment, they are on our side. Push comes to shove, Turkey is

:15:59. > :16:03.a naked member -- a Nato member, I think they will be thrown under the

:16:04. > :16:08.bus. Alan is a great politician to say that he has never bought Assad

:16:09. > :16:16.is going the right way. It doesn't make him a great person. It doesn't

:16:17. > :16:19.mean you like Assad. That was the reason why Cameron's proposal to

:16:20. > :16:25.intervene was defeated in Parliament,. It switched round

:16:26. > :16:30.before allegedly the solution was to get rid of Assad and then we will

:16:31. > :16:35.eventually sought out Isis but now it is, we have to sort the peace out

:16:36. > :16:39.and get everybody to turn on Islamic State and then move on to Kurdish

:16:40. > :16:44.question, which never go away. Something that Kim said in passing

:16:45. > :16:48.was important. It is very likely that, out of all of this, the

:16:49. > :16:52.European Union and others are going to lift their sanctions on Russia

:16:53. > :16:58.over Ukraine. That is such a huge prize for the Russians, and it is

:16:59. > :17:03.another instance of no handcuffs, no punishment. The Russian economy

:17:04. > :17:06.declined by 4% last year, so the lifting of sanctions is something

:17:07. > :17:11.the Kremlin would like. The chances of a breakthrough in the peace talks

:17:12. > :17:18.are slight, I would suggest, so what do we think is Mr Putin's endgame?

:17:19. > :17:22.To hang court, to have his foothold in the Middle East. Those things are

:17:23. > :17:28.now in place. -- to hang on to the port. Iraq is now buying arms from

:17:29. > :17:33.them again, Egypt is as well, the Iranians are buying arms from them,

:17:34. > :17:37.so is India, and they have shown these, forgive me, toys, and I don't

:17:38. > :17:41.like saying that, but it is a game to them, and the toys they have

:17:42. > :17:45.displayed in the last six months which have killed all these

:17:46. > :17:50.civilians have worked, and it has helped them. Their colony is

:17:51. > :17:57.tanking, but the expenditure and their military is about to reduce.

:17:58. > :18:02.-- there, me. -- their economy is tanking. They are doing fine. The

:18:03. > :18:07.endgame is to hang on to what they have got. If there is a federalised

:18:08. > :18:12.Syria and Russia is a player in the Middle East, what have they lost?

:18:13. > :18:17.Indeed, they have gained a lot of influence again. What does he do for

:18:18. > :18:20.an encore? Russian TV at the moment has been dominated by Russian

:18:21. > :18:25.sorties over Aleppo. There is very little domestic news on all the

:18:26. > :18:34.channels which Mr Putin controls. It is all about abroad. Before that, it

:18:35. > :18:38.was the Ukraine or Crimea. If he hasn't got those sorties over

:18:39. > :18:47.Aleppo, what does he do for an encore? What is the next new foreign

:18:48. > :18:50.diversion? There are various places he could push.

:18:51. > :18:56.diversion? There are various places Azerbaijan situation is one.

:18:57. > :18:59.diversion? There are various places conflict that is there, he could

:19:00. > :19:03.push there. He could push in the Baltics. He could try to get

:19:04. > :19:09.resolution in the Ukraine. I think that he does gamble, but I don't

:19:10. > :19:12.think he is a wild gambler, so I think he will try to get some sort

:19:13. > :19:18.of peace. To answer your previous question, Andrew, this peace process

:19:19. > :19:22.at the moment may not work, but often you have to fail to or three

:19:23. > :19:23.times and eventually you get your peace conference. Let's

:19:24. > :19:26.times and eventually you get your the one, but I

:19:27. > :19:27.times and eventually you get your another one and each time you get

:19:28. > :19:33.closer. Bosnia another one and each time you get

:19:34. > :19:36.can push in a lot of places, but I think he might consolidate if he can

:19:37. > :19:43.get the sanctions taken off about Ukraine. Thank you.

:19:44. > :19:45.Now it's late - Gwyneth Paltrow's "moon dust" late -

:19:46. > :19:48.so stir a spoonful into your Blue Nun and stay up late,

:19:49. > :19:50.because waiting in the wings, documentary maker Stacey Dooley

:19:51. > :19:54.And, don't forget, we're still taking no notice whatsoever

:19:55. > :19:57.of any of your pixie dust on the Twitter, the Fleecebook

:19:58. > :20:04.or even our former Great Leader's Intergalactic Web Sphere.

:20:05. > :20:07.They say you can never have too much of a good thing.

:20:08. > :20:09.Clearly they've never had to sit through four -

:20:10. > :20:12.count 'em - - financial statements from the Chancellor of the Exchequer

:20:13. > :20:19.Even those of us who paid tuppence ha'penny to put up with Boy George

:20:20. > :20:24.So it's a good job we have the Economist's Anne McElvoy on hand.

:20:25. > :20:26.Here's her Budget round-up of the week.

:20:27. > :20:29.For some reason she's in an ice cream van -

:20:30. > :20:43.George has got us all thinking about our financial futures,

:20:44. > :20:48.but the best news is this week I finally landed me a job my kids

:20:49. > :20:58.MUSIC: My Boy Lollipo by Millie Small.

:20:59. > :21:01.All the lolly on offer couldn't disguise the bad news.

:21:02. > :21:05.Downbeat economic forecasts, a big missed debt target,

:21:06. > :21:07.and our old friend productivity still floundering,

:21:08. > :21:40.The Chancellor's been desperate for some green shoots of an early

:21:41. > :21:42.summer, but growth forecasts have fallen sharply and that means

:21:43. > :21:46.smaller portions of just about everything.

:21:47. > :21:51.George is going to have to borrow to pay for any treats or cut

:21:52. > :22:01.The British economy is resilient because, whatever the challenge,

:22:02. > :22:04.however strong the headwinds, we have held to the course

:22:05. > :22:08.I must tell the House that we face such a challenge now.

:22:09. > :22:14.Financial markets are turbulent, productivity growth across the West

:22:15. > :22:18.is too low and the outlook for the global economy is weak.

:22:19. > :22:22.It makes for a dangerous cocktail of risks but one which Britain

:22:23. > :22:30.is well prepared to handle if we act now so we don't pay later.

:22:31. > :22:40.Keeping health campaigners and a giddy Jamie Oliver sweet,

:22:41. > :22:44.the Chancellor announced a sugar tax on fizzy drinks, though not

:22:45. > :22:51.It's unsweetened peanuts in money terms, about half a billion to help

:22:52. > :22:54.fund primary school sport, but George's message

:22:55. > :23:01.He's got his eye on the next generation.

:23:02. > :23:09.It's symbolic that a robust government can actually get control

:23:10. > :23:14.of big business when it's having ill effects on child health.

:23:15. > :23:18.The logic behind it is the single largest source of sugar

:23:19. > :23:25.in childrens' diets is sugary sweetened drinks.

:23:26. > :23:32.There were not many giveaways but Mr Osborne doubtless wants us

:23:33. > :23:35.to be grateful for the taxes that he left in the deep freeze,

:23:36. > :23:38.so levies on fuel and alcohol stayed put, but the sin tax that didn't get

:23:39. > :23:45.It wouldn't be George without mention of his own favourite

:23:46. > :23:47.child, in policy terms, the Northern Powerhouse.

:23:48. > :23:53.Some of us thought we'd heard a few of these announcements before.

:23:54. > :23:56.The HS3 rail link between Manchester and Leeds and extra money for flood

:23:57. > :23:59.defences for those up north who've spent too much time

:24:00. > :24:06.We are giving the green light to High Speed 3 between Manchester

:24:07. > :24:09.and Leeds, finding new money to create a four lane M62

:24:10. > :24:11.and we will develop the case for a new tunneled road

:24:12. > :24:17.My honourable friends for Carlisle, Penrith and Hexham have told us not

:24:18. > :24:19.to neglect the north Pennines so we'll upgrade

:24:20. > :24:27.Hipster Osborne is the millennials' new best friend and he's been

:24:28. > :24:31.worrying about what's going to happen to those carefree

:24:32. > :24:35.young pleasure seekers later in life, so he's set up a new Isa

:24:36. > :24:39.for the under 40s to help them set up pension pots for their old age.

:24:40. > :24:48.And the Chancellor raised the annual Isa limit to ?20,000.

:24:49. > :24:52.Now, that, according to Jeremy Corbyn, is a lot of lolly

:24:53. > :24:58.that won't benefit the young or the least well off.

:24:59. > :25:03.This Budget, Mr Deputy Speaker, has unfairness at its very core,

:25:04. > :25:08.paid for by those who can least afford it.

:25:09. > :25:11.He could not have made his priorities clearer.

:25:12. > :25:14.While half a million people with disabilities are losing over

:25:15. > :25:20.?1 billion in personal independence payments,

:25:21. > :25:23.corporation tax is being cut and billions handed out in tax cuts

:25:24. > :25:31.It was a bit of a vanilla Budget, designed to help the Chancellor

:25:32. > :25:34.boost his case for an In vote in the EU referendum and sprinkle

:25:35. > :25:37.a few favours for those Tory backbenchers, ready for the day

:25:38. > :26:03.when George tries to seize the keys to the Tory van.

:26:04. > :26:06.We're joined in the studio by a woman many people north

:26:07. > :26:08.of the border are calling the new Nicola Sturgeon -

:26:09. > :26:10.SNP leader-in-waiting and Scottish powerhouse,

:26:11. > :26:30.Welcome to the programme. Thank you. Michael, what is your big takeaway

:26:31. > :26:34.from this Budget? My big takeaway is that George had probably planned to

:26:35. > :26:38.make his mark on history. Each Chancellor likes to be remembered

:26:39. > :26:42.for a great reform. I think is was going to be on pensions and it would

:26:43. > :26:46.have eased his burden considerably, but it would have brought money

:26:47. > :26:51.forward. I think that's probably be Prime Minister told him he couldn't

:26:52. > :26:54.do that and so the whole centre of the Budget at that point collapsed,

:26:55. > :26:58.and we were left with virtually nothing which had to be filled in

:26:59. > :27:02.with the sugar tax. Reverting to the point I made earlier, I think the

:27:03. > :27:08.whole referendum campaign, and I think George Osborne was against

:27:09. > :27:12.having a referendum, it has handed this amazing opportunity to Boris

:27:13. > :27:16.Johnson to come out on the sceptic side and endear himself with the

:27:17. > :27:20.Tory rank-and-file. I would think George Osborne is probably have the

:27:21. > :27:24.most miserable week of his life, because he is seeing Boris is

:27:25. > :27:29.rampant and his Budget and place in history as a Chancellor destroyed.

:27:30. > :27:34.He could have had a lot of money from pension tax relief. More than

:27:35. > :27:39.that, it would have been the monument. Quite a progressive

:27:40. > :27:45.change, too, taking away relief from the top end. What is your take? I

:27:46. > :27:50.think it is a dark mark on history, not a good day for those who are

:27:51. > :27:55.worse off, at the bottom end of the ladder. The cuts, as Corbyn said,

:27:56. > :28:00.for disabled people. This government says it wants to get disabled people

:28:01. > :28:05.back into employment but it is going to be taking away their aides and

:28:06. > :28:08.benefits. That seems to be unravelling tonight, shades of

:28:09. > :28:16.another tax credit would treat about it. Reed absolutely. All the

:28:17. > :28:20.opposition, including, I assume, your own party, will vote against

:28:21. > :28:25.it, and it only needs a handful of Tories to do the same. Fundamentally

:28:26. > :28:29.for us, he has missed all of the targets he has imposed on himself

:28:30. > :28:35.and he is not willing to move. The Chancellor seems like a man isolated

:28:36. > :28:39.and boxed in by his own targets. Productivity, he is down. Exports,

:28:40. > :28:46.he is down. Growth, not doing as well as forecast, and the Obiang are

:28:47. > :28:50.forecasting a bleak outlook. You have to ask yourself, when is he

:28:51. > :28:57.going to listen? The SNP put forward a credible plan which is being

:28:58. > :29:01.backed by the IMF and OCD of a 0.5% increase in public spending, which

:29:02. > :29:08.were released money into the economy. Not over a year, a

:29:09. > :29:13.five-year period? Fundamentally, not only is he not missing his own

:29:14. > :29:18.targets, we are contracting, we are not growing. No, the economy is

:29:19. > :29:22.growing by over 2%, the fastest-growing economy in the G7.

:29:23. > :29:29.It is factually untrue to say it isn't growing. OK, we are not

:29:30. > :29:33.growing at the same rate. Alan, what is your takeaway? It is

:29:34. > :29:41.extraordinary that he has broken to... Three. And the third one, he

:29:42. > :29:45.has to make this incredible shift to a ?10 billion surplus in a year, one

:29:46. > :29:51.financial year. But something always goes wrong in a George Osborne

:29:52. > :29:54.Budget. We had the omnishambles some years ago when everything went

:29:55. > :30:00.wrong. He got away with this amazing U-turn on working families tax

:30:01. > :30:08.credit, ?4 billion, and I agree with you, Andrew. This attack on people

:30:09. > :30:12.on PIP, there was nothing wrong with disability living allowance. People

:30:13. > :30:16.said, you try and change it, you will make it more expensive. It has

:30:17. > :30:22.made it more expensive. Now he is trying to grow it back. By making it

:30:23. > :30:26.more difficult to qualify. It is how disabled people can live full lives.

:30:27. > :30:31.It was a consensus among all politicians. Two cups that at the

:30:32. > :30:33.same time as cutting capital gains tax for the very rich is an obvious

:30:34. > :30:41.U-turn waiting to happen. It doesn't help George Osborne, it

:30:42. > :30:46.makes him look foolish, missing all the targets. If we take a step back.

:30:47. > :30:51.All these people complaining about austerity. Our economy went went

:30:52. > :30:55.into recession in 2007-2008. Since then it has been growing quite

:30:56. > :30:59.strongly. We are 11 years into a recovery. Throughout the period that

:31:00. > :31:04.that recovery has been going on, George Osborne has been borrowing

:31:05. > :31:07.hundreds of billions of pounds. Year after year the British people get

:31:08. > :31:11.much more in Government services than is raised in taxes. That money

:31:12. > :31:16.is borrowed and handed down to future generations to pay off. You

:31:17. > :31:20.know, if a country, after 10 years of growth or whatever, isn't going

:31:21. > :31:24.to try and run a surplus, isn't going to try to pay back some of

:31:25. > :31:30.that debt, you wonder when on earth it is. What is the Scottish

:31:31. > :31:35.nationalist response is to barrow more and hand a greater burden of

:31:36. > :31:39.debt to the next generation. That's not a solution. Nobody disagrees we

:31:40. > :31:43.need to reduce the deficit and the debt. You said you wanted another

:31:44. > :31:49.?150 billion in spending? That will inject investment into the economy.

:31:50. > :31:54.Will it? Yes, it will. That's fancy arithmetic, I must say. It's not

:31:55. > :31:59.just us saying that, it's the IMF saying that as well. We continue to

:32:00. > :32:04.the run the high deficit in the European Union. A after all these

:32:05. > :32:11.years. More than Spain, litly than Greece. He cut back on capital

:32:12. > :32:15.spending. He cut back on Alistair Darling capital spending plans by

:32:16. > :32:17.?18 billion. You may remember the note to the Chief Secretary the

:32:18. > :32:23.Labour Government saying there was no money. Come on. One of yours that

:32:24. > :32:30.left a similar note. It might still be true. He escaped by the skin of

:32:31. > :32:35.his teeth a double-dip recession. He has lived a charmed life. He is is

:32:36. > :32:41.running out of rope. Since ever Budget has an exploding bomb in it

:32:42. > :32:45.The way he sets things up. The tax credit thing, a cynic could say he

:32:46. > :32:51.set it up to U-turn on it. No. The cynic would be wrong. He was totally

:32:52. > :32:55.blindsided on that. Remind me who won the last general election?

:32:56. > :33:04.Whether that was expected. You have to give credit - That was maybe Mr

:33:05. > :33:06.Cameron? Well, he's the first lord of the treasury and he's the

:33:07. > :33:11.Chancellor of the Exchequer. It turned out to be an election winner.

:33:12. > :33:15.The people were convinced that the policies that he was following were

:33:16. > :33:20.necessary and people like Ed Miliband, who said they were

:33:21. > :33:24.unnecessary, were defeated. That to me adds up to a political strategy.

:33:25. > :33:28.He was extraordinarily successful in planting in people's minds that

:33:29. > :33:32.that, you know, what happened after Lehmann brothers was Labour's fault.

:33:33. > :33:36.I don't blame him for that. Maxed out on your credit card. Don't give

:33:37. > :33:40.the keys back to the driver who drove the car into the ditch. Not

:33:41. > :33:43.only could we not find the sound bites to match that. We seemed at

:33:44. > :33:49.the last election not to want to address it. Let's deal with 2015 not

:33:50. > :33:55.2010. This reputation that we crashed the economy. He is saying,

:33:56. > :33:59.international issues are what's - Blaming it on the global - Global

:34:00. > :34:03.problems. It's the poorest people in society who are paying. Those people

:34:04. > :34:08.were not the people who pushed the economy over the edge. Yeah. It was

:34:09. > :34:12.bankers. It was people in those financial institutions. And we are

:34:13. > :34:17.not doing the things that we should be doing, you know, to see that

:34:18. > :34:23.comeback. I thought Jeremy Corbyn was very good. On the most difficult

:34:24. > :34:25.gig in the West End, replying to the Chancellor's speech. Always

:34:26. > :34:31.difficult. Always difficult. I think he was very good, spot on. . If you

:34:32. > :34:35.had won the referendum you would be 10 days from independence with a 10%

:34:36. > :34:42.deficit? You have to call in the IMF, wouldn't you? I'm glad you

:34:43. > :34:46.asked me that. It's so littered with inaccuracies and misinformation.

:34:47. > :34:49.What the 10% deficit? No. The point we wouldn't be able to survive. All

:34:50. > :34:55.of the countries in the developed world is running a deficit. Who is

:34:56. > :34:59.running a 10 terz % deficit. Tell me. Which other countries are

:35:00. > :35:03.running a 10% deficit? The leaders who got us into the deficit is like

:35:04. > :35:14.saying - Michael should take over your show and it doesn't do as well

:35:15. > :35:17.so - That's obviously the case. We are the only country being judged by

:35:18. > :35:21.the miss imaginement - You have a deficit because you spend so much

:35:22. > :35:25.more than you take in tax. We have the powers. You are only able to run

:35:26. > :35:29.that deficit because London sends you so much money. You asked me a

:35:30. > :35:35.question. Let me answer it. We would have the economic powers and the

:35:36. > :35:41.levers to grow our economy - Aah, the John McConnell answer. It's

:35:42. > :35:44.true. OK. Financial mismanagement by this Chancellor is balancing the

:35:45. > :35:48.books on the back of the poor and not doing enough for the poorest in

:35:49. > :35:54.society. Thank you for being with us. Thank you.

:35:55. > :35:56.Earlier this week, former Lib Dem minister, David Laws,

:35:57. > :35:59.revealed that, in order to look like he feels your pain,

:36:00. > :36:01.the Prime Minister relies on an official 'crib sheet',

:36:02. > :36:04.put together by his staff, briefing him on the cost of common

:36:05. > :36:06.household items and low-cultural pursuits.

:36:07. > :36:08.Think of it as a 'pleb sheet' for Old Etonians.

:36:09. > :36:10.If ever he's asked a tricky question, Dave can confidently

:36:11. > :36:14.pretend he knows exactly how much it costs to buy a pint of semi-skimmed

:36:15. > :36:17.milk in Asda, a Mars Bar costs in a corner shop and a pint

:36:18. > :36:25.But one non-essential item was curiously missing from Dave's

:36:26. > :36:28.list, so that's why we've decided to address the issue and put paying

:36:29. > :36:39.It's the oldest profession in the world, but how much do

:36:40. > :36:41.people's attitudes to prostitution vary across the world?

:36:42. > :36:46.New documentary, Sex in strange Places, sees reporter,

:36:47. > :36:49.Stacey Dooley, uncover the stories behind the sex industry,

:36:50. > :37:17.She hears of the dangers and prejudices faced by prostitutes

:37:18. > :37:20.of all genders in Brazil, but there's a surprise to witness

:37:21. > :37:22.state-run brothels in Turkey and the glamorous lifestyles

:37:23. > :37:39.seemingly enjoyed by some of Russia's high class escorts.

:37:40. > :37:42.So are there lessons the UK can learn?

:37:43. > :37:45.Some argue that regulating the industry would protect sex

:37:46. > :37:49.workers, some argue anyone paying for sex should be prosecuted.

:37:50. > :37:51.Jeremy Corbyn says he backs decriminalisation, but can we ever

:37:52. > :38:02.get past the old moral view that paying for sex is wrong?

:38:03. > :38:04.I'm joined in the studio by Stacey Dooley.

:38:05. > :38:14.Thank you for having me. It looks like you had amaze being access, was

:38:15. > :38:18.it difficult to get? It was tricky, actually. We went out there and had

:38:19. > :38:24.conversations. Slowly, we will talk to you for half an hour. Turkey,

:38:25. > :38:30.Russia and Brazil. Yeah. What were the difference? We choose those

:38:31. > :38:33.three countries because they were different politically, culturally,

:38:34. > :38:40.the religious aspect. For me I was blown away. I didn't realise the

:38:41. > :38:46.brothels in Turkey were state-run until I started researching. In an

:38:47. > :38:53.Islamic country? Hugely conserve i it looked to Europe, it looks as if

:38:54. > :38:58.it's looking close to the Middle East, Erdogan was voted in when we

:38:59. > :39:03.were there. You think Brazil is liberal and accepting. Far from it

:39:04. > :39:06.in many circumstances. Having seen prostitution in three different

:39:07. > :39:13.societies, did you come to any views on this issue of legalisation that

:39:14. > :39:17.people argue would be safer if it was legalised and then people kind

:39:18. > :39:22.of say, but the women, even legalised, they will be trafficked.

:39:23. > :39:28.They will be exploited, what did you conclude? You do come to your own

:39:29. > :39:32.conclusions. I can understand it's an emotive, controversial subject

:39:33. > :39:35.for many people. For me, personally, I've spent, you know, an extensive

:39:36. > :39:42.amount of time with a lot of sex workers now around the world. Corbyn

:39:43. > :39:45.was pulled up by female Labour MPs suggesting that decriminalisation

:39:46. > :39:50.might be an alternative solution. I sort of admire him for entertaining

:39:51. > :39:54.another idea because it's evident what's currently in place is not

:39:55. > :39:58.working. These girls are treated like second-class citizens. They are

:39:59. > :40:02.marginalised. They are demonised. There is a lot of trafficking in

:40:03. > :40:06.this country, too? There is. Trafficking hases, unfor few

:40:07. > :40:11.fatally, always existed. There is a definite difference between forced

:40:12. > :40:16.trafficked prostitutes and adult consensual prostitution. You think

:40:17. > :40:20.decriminalisation would help or it's worth having a debate about it? .

:40:21. > :40:23.Absolutely it's worth having a debate about. Corbyn, certain things

:40:24. > :40:27.he says I'm not that doubt with. That I thought he was spot on. I

:40:28. > :40:33.don't agree. I do agree there is not a perfect answer to this. Yeah. I

:40:34. > :40:37.mean, I talk to the girls - I don't think there is a constituency MP,

:40:38. > :40:42.certainly in a city like Hull or - You are Hull, aren't you? Who don't

:40:43. > :40:46.get involved in this through various charities. The thing, is I think, I

:40:47. > :40:54.haven't seen your documentary, this is not, you know, well educated

:40:55. > :40:58.girls who take the decision - shall I be a nuclear scientists or go on

:40:59. > :41:02.the game? Are. You would be surprised. They are damaged, pushed

:41:03. > :41:07.into it. Very vulnerable who end up in this situation. The girls I talk

:41:08. > :41:13.to. OK. Are in that situation. I don't think legalising this is going

:41:14. > :41:17.to help them. I quite like the Nordic idea of of making it legal to

:41:18. > :41:21.pay for sex. You are looking at one end of it and not criminalising the

:41:22. > :41:25.girls. Decriminalising the whole thing I think will lead to more

:41:26. > :41:29.problems than it Sols. Will that work? I disagree. I don't agree

:41:30. > :41:32.there. I had the same trail of thought initially. Surely it's

:41:33. > :41:36.circumstantial. Who would choose to be a prostitute? Actually, in Russia

:41:37. > :41:39.particularly, the girl was very bright. Bilingual, had been to uni.

:41:40. > :41:44.She said I could be a bright. Bilingual, had been to uni.

:41:45. > :41:52.I want to be a sex worker. We have to accept and acknowledge that some

:41:53. > :41:55.girls do choose sex work. Michael. R The issue is complicated and a lot

:41:56. > :42:00.of exploitation is involved along the line. I think, at the core, a

:42:01. > :42:02.willing buyer and a willing siller is not a place where the state

:42:03. > :42:07.should be intervening. I think is not a place where the state

:42:08. > :42:10.some level, some aspect of it ought to be legalised. The law in

:42:11. > :42:12.some level, some aspect of it ought is complicated. It's different

:42:13. > :42:14.some level, some aspect of it ought Northern Ireland where I'm told they

:42:15. > :42:23.made it illegal to pay for sex. Very recently, yeah. Prostitution is

:42:24. > :42:26.legal in Great Britain for over 18s but some activity, street

:42:27. > :42:32.prostitution, kerb crawling, running a brothel are not. A lot of mixed

:42:33. > :42:35.signals. Very complicated. I had to dedicate loads of time to

:42:36. > :42:39.researching what goes on here in the UK. You are right, Northern Ireland,

:42:40. > :42:44.very recently, changed their rules. Here, you know, paying for sex isn't

:42:45. > :42:47.illegal. Accepting money for sex isn't illegal. You are right, the

:42:48. > :42:53.circumstances surrounding the industry are. So I just think it's

:42:54. > :42:58.muddy. The laws in Great Britain are not I think stupid. Preventing

:42:59. > :43:03.street prostitution - I understand. Is about creating nusance to other

:43:04. > :43:07.people. Running a brothel being illegal is about exploitation. The

:43:08. > :43:10.British law is trying to get at aspects which affect other people

:43:11. > :43:14.which tend towards exploitation. The basic point - willing seller,

:43:15. > :43:19.willing buyer is not touched by British law. Is it not dangerous

:43:20. > :43:23.making this? There was a couple of hairy moments. Turkey was trickier

:43:24. > :43:27.than Brazil and Russia were. It's great work. Yeah. Congratulations on

:43:28. > :43:33.it. Thank you. I really appreciate it. What is the next subject? I'm

:43:34. > :43:36.going to Iran. Off to South Africa. Come back to see us. Thank you for

:43:37. > :43:44.having me. Hopefully just as interesting. Thank you.

:43:45. > :43:47.That's your lot for tonight, folks, but not for us.

:43:48. > :43:49.It's Office for National Statistics Night at Lou Lou's and we're off

:43:50. > :43:52.to boogie with the number nerds who decided this week that nightclub

:43:53. > :43:55.entrance fees will no longer be used to calculate the UK

:43:56. > :44:03.How will they know what the rate is then?

:44:04. > :44:06.Not that we're bothered - we're on the guest list as usual.

:44:07. > :44:09.But we leave you tonight with exclusive footage of the exact

:44:10. > :44:11.moment the Chancellor's Treasury colleagues found out that he'd

:44:12. > :44:31.# Don't want to be all by myself any more.

:44:32. > :44:49.# Don't want to live all by myself any more.

:44:50. > :44:57.# Don't want to live all by myself any more