:00:00. > :00:26.Male Model of the Year, Ken Livingstone, tells us
:00:27. > :00:28.why his buddy and Islington's style icon will hold on to
:00:29. > :00:37.When he wins, it's time for a new wardrobe.
:00:38. > :00:41.We should start deselecting those who don't get on board.
:00:42. > :00:44.The fashion industry has been behind every major political assassination
:00:45. > :00:58.He's been strutting the political catwalk at London Fashion Week.
:00:59. > :01:01.And I'll be looking at the Lib Dems through the style lens,
:01:02. > :01:09.And wannabe political pin-up, UB40 drummer Jimmy Brown,
:01:10. > :01:18.I'm only here cos I'm in the doghouse.
:01:19. > :01:33.Yes, This Week is back, and we're hotter than ever.
:01:34. > :01:38.Yes, we're back after an eventful summer in which ex-PM Call-Me-Dave
:01:39. > :01:41.announced he was also stepping down as an MP to spend more
:01:42. > :01:44.time with his family, as long as he can remember which pub
:01:45. > :01:47.Jezza, the once and future leader of Labour, was criticised for saying
:01:48. > :01:51.he would not invoke Nato's Article 5 triggering a military
:01:52. > :01:54.response should Russia invade the Baltic States.
:01:55. > :01:56.But surely from Jezza's point of view he's right.
:01:57. > :02:01.Russia won't need Britain's help to conquer Lithuania.
:02:02. > :02:04.A new character filled the airwaves for several weeks this summer called
:02:05. > :02:09.Apparently he's part of an outreach programme for young migrant men.
:02:10. > :02:15.That's J-I-M and his tumble driers are really big.
:02:16. > :02:18.I, myself, have been part of this humane programme and spent much
:02:19. > :02:21.of the summer meeting Romanian immigrants posing as John the Car
:02:22. > :02:26.All went fine until they tried to drive away in their cars.
:02:27. > :02:29.In other news, the air has been thick with the products of selective
:02:30. > :02:33.schools warning us of the evils of selective schools
:02:34. > :02:38.while sending their own little darlings to selective schools.
:02:39. > :02:42.Surely social services should be intervening to stop such cruelty.
:02:43. > :02:44.But most of all, we're delighted to have you back,
:02:45. > :02:47.dear viewer, because we discovered this summer that we have a rival
:02:48. > :02:53.Yes, Diane Abbott, aka Madame Mao, who we always thought
:02:54. > :02:56.hailed from this manor, revealed to the Nigerian Guardian,
:02:57. > :03:00.a must-read around these parts, that she had a late-Thursday-night
:03:01. > :03:06.It's been going for 13 years and is really rather
:03:07. > :03:16.We're just relieved some of you are still watching us!
:03:17. > :03:18.Speaking of those who live in a fantasy world, we're joined
:03:19. > :03:23.by two MPs who thought they had a career in politics.
:03:24. > :03:28.One-time agony aunt and Labour MP, Lisa #northernsoul Nandy and former
:03:29. > :03:37.Tory Culture vulture, Ed #maroonedcamerooned Vaizey.
:03:38. > :03:50.Your moment of the week? It has been a bit of a bitty week. So I picked
:03:51. > :03:55.out, so fish and, as I am an Oxford MP, that Oxford University came top
:03:56. > :04:00.of a survey of the best universities in the world. It is a times higher
:04:01. > :04:03.education supplement survey and it is the first time a British
:04:04. > :04:07.university has come top. It is a great thing for Britain, but also
:04:08. > :04:13.the whole Brexit Remainer debate will take this, and they will say,
:04:14. > :04:16.yes, Oxford is great because it is open to the world and has research
:04:17. > :04:20.from all over the world and Brexit will destroy it. And those who
:04:21. > :04:24.support Brexit will say, stop talking down Britain, we have the
:04:25. > :04:29.best university in the world, all these amazing assets and we can go
:04:30. > :04:34.and trade with the world. There was not a single non-British EU
:04:35. > :04:39.university in the top 30. Cambridge and imperial were also in the top
:04:40. > :04:42.ten. There are very few good European universities. They have
:04:43. > :04:49.some big problems. The other thing was a lot of Chinese universities
:04:50. > :04:55.now entering. And getting better. Lisa. Mary Berry. It has to be,
:04:56. > :05:01.hasn't it? It was huge. For anyone who has missed it, she is not moving
:05:02. > :05:05.with Bake Off to Channel 4, so basically it looks like Channel 4
:05:06. > :05:11.have spent ?75 million on a tent and Paul Hollywood. When you do these
:05:12. > :05:15.negotiations, surely you make sure, because these shows are led by the
:05:16. > :05:20.talent, unlike this programme which is held back by its talent. Surely
:05:21. > :05:28.part of the deal is that you lock in the talent to move with the show. It
:05:29. > :05:32.is strange because three of four presenters are going, but apparently
:05:33. > :05:36.they are getting a new BBC show. Maybe this show needs a bit of
:05:37. > :05:42.sprucing up and we'll be getting a new presenter. It has been 13 years
:05:43. > :05:47.since I have been on this show and it has struggled hugely. I was on
:05:48. > :05:53.the previous show. Now I am back, it might... You want to bring back the
:05:54. > :05:58.midnight hour. A woman presenter may be, someone with some baking
:05:59. > :06:03.experience. I might call Channel 4 and see if there are any vacancies.
:06:04. > :06:08.How much do you think Channel 4 would buy this programme for? And
:06:09. > :06:15.would they want to keep you? Enough of this foolishness. I think I need
:06:16. > :06:17.to get an agent. You are not doing much these days!
:06:18. > :06:20.Now, what do the words "automatic reselection" mean to you?
:06:21. > :06:21.Perhaps it's replacing Michael with Ed Vaizey
:06:22. > :06:23.on the This Week sofa, or swapping the shortbread
:06:24. > :06:25.in your diet for a sugar-free alternative.
:06:26. > :06:29.But for the Labour Party, deselection is an idea
:06:30. > :06:34.With Mr Corbyn looking likely to be re-elected by an even bigger
:06:35. > :06:38.majority than his first victory only a year ago, calls for more centrist
:06:39. > :06:40.Labour MPs to be deselected are gaining momentum.
:06:41. > :06:50.So is this the end of the Labour Party as we know it,
:06:51. > :06:53.Here's veteran Labourite Ken Livingstone with his Take
:06:54. > :07:16.Well, no matter how you spice it up, it's hard to make the present
:07:17. > :07:19.situation in the Labour Party look terribly attractive.
:07:20. > :07:23.These backstabbing MPs have had the right to challenge Jeremy.
:07:24. > :07:25.Why can't they be challenged with reselection in the run-up
:07:26. > :07:32.The simple fact is, every politician in America is subject to a primary
:07:33. > :07:35.before they can stand for their party, and I don't think
:07:36. > :07:43.anyone thinks America is a communist society.
:07:44. > :07:46.20 years ago when I was the MP in Brent East, the right wingers
:07:47. > :07:51.I thought they had a right to do that, so I don't know why
:07:52. > :08:02.An MP's seat shouldn't be a job for life.
:08:03. > :08:05.And when you have MPs saying Jeremy isn't fit to govern,
:08:06. > :08:07.they can't complain if people want to get rid of them.
:08:08. > :08:10.The simple fact is that when we criticised Tony Blair
:08:11. > :08:16.We weren't challenging him as a person.
:08:17. > :08:18.These embittered old Blairites can't stand the fact that Jeremy's
:08:19. > :08:22.bringing back democracy to the party, not just allowing them
:08:23. > :08:25.to actually decide who they want as a candidate, but also a say
:08:26. > :08:29.in policy and a say in the election of the Shadow Cabinet.
:08:30. > :08:41.It's madness to say that the PLP should elect the Shadow Cabinet,
:08:42. > :08:44.because it's the most right wing PLP we've ever had.
:08:45. > :08:47.All through the Blair and Brown years, local parties weren't allowed
:08:48. > :08:50.They had to pick from an approved list.
:08:51. > :08:52.So you got stuck with Douglas Alexander,
:08:53. > :09:03.Jeremy's going to win by a landslide on Saturday and I think that'll be
:09:04. > :09:05.the most significant event in human history since our ancestors came
:09:06. > :09:11.The Labour Party isn't going to split.
:09:12. > :09:14.These embittered old Blairites remember when the SDP
:09:15. > :09:19.Giants - Roy Jenkins, Shirley Williams, David Owen -
:09:20. > :09:22.the whole country knew who they were but they were completely wiped out
:09:23. > :09:27.And the people stabbing Jeremy in the back now,
:09:28. > :09:35.Although the party isn't going to split, Jeremy's re-election
:09:36. > :09:38.is the right time to crack down on those who are undermining us
:09:39. > :09:41.and helping the Tories soar ahead in the polls.
:09:42. > :09:51.With thanks to the Red Rose Tandoori on Holloway Road.
:09:52. > :09:53.And Ken Livingstone, who's so old Labour he's brand
:09:54. > :10:08.Welcome back to the programme. Lisa, if Mr Corbyn wins big on Saturday,
:10:09. > :10:13.does that start the healing process, or does it leave Labour more divided
:10:14. > :10:19.than ever? It depends how we respond to it. If he wins again, then it's
:10:20. > :10:23.obviously incumbent on everybody in the Parliamentary Labour Party to
:10:24. > :10:27.accept that result and to try to be constructive and make it work. And
:10:28. > :10:31.it's incumbent on the leadership to reach out to parts of the party that
:10:32. > :10:35.have lost faith, and to think seriously about how we move forwards
:10:36. > :10:39.and we win a general election. For me, that's got to start with
:10:40. > :10:43.something that is the opposite of what Ken was arguing for, which is
:10:44. > :10:47.about right to calm down the debate, stop prattling deselection and
:10:48. > :10:53.talking about backstabbers and that kind of violent, abusive language
:10:54. > :10:58.and start thinking seriously about how we move forwards and become not
:10:59. > :11:01.just a decent opposition but a genuine alternative. It is kind of
:11:02. > :11:07.hard to see peace breaking out if there is going to be a raft of
:11:08. > :11:12.deselection attempts. When we introduced automatic deselection in
:11:13. > :11:18.the 1980s, there was a handful, not more than five MPs got deselected. I
:11:19. > :11:22.just think it's a principle. I did not object when right put candidates
:11:23. > :11:26.against me for recent election. You have a right to do that. I have
:11:27. > :11:31.always been in favour of this. The vast majority of MPs will get behind
:11:32. > :11:35.Jeremy because they want to win the next election. We have to start
:11:36. > :11:40.focusing on economic policy, not the trivia. But there will be a group
:11:41. > :11:44.that are still grumpy. Should they be deselected, and would they only
:11:45. > :11:48.have themselves to blame? They only have themselves to blame. There has
:11:49. > :11:50.been real shock amongst party members that all of this new
:11:51. > :11:57.election campaign has been triggered. We elected Jeremy a year
:11:58. > :12:03.ago. Virtually nearly 60% of the vote. Did you not want annual
:12:04. > :12:07.elections at one stage? I'm a one of them. We have all had lots of
:12:08. > :12:14.different opinions in the past. In the old days, it could be done quite
:12:15. > :12:19.quickly. Now, it is incredibly expensive. This must be costing ?1
:12:20. > :12:23.million at least. And time-consuming. Will the majority of
:12:24. > :12:28.Labour MPs rally round Jeremy Corbyn? I have not met a single
:12:29. > :12:33.person in the Parliamentary Labour Party, all members, who want to see
:12:34. > :12:37.the Labour Party split. The only way forward for Labour, whoever wins, is
:12:38. > :12:40.to be constructive and create a less toxic environment in which we can
:12:41. > :12:46.listen to each other and learn from one another. Would you rejoin the
:12:47. > :12:55.Shadow Cabinet? It is pretty unlikely for a number of reasons.
:12:56. > :13:00.Assuming this outbreak in an era of new feelings in the Labour Party,
:13:01. > :13:08.let's assume you are asked, would you accept? I think it is unlikely.
:13:09. > :13:13.I am asking if the unlikely becomes, if it actually happens, would you
:13:14. > :13:16.accept? I am trying to answer the question. Ken has said the
:13:17. > :13:20.disagreements were always over policy that I did not resign because
:13:21. > :13:24.of policy. I resigned when it became clear at a meeting I had with him
:13:25. > :13:28.and John McDonnell that they saw this as a war in which dissenting
:13:29. > :13:34.voices needed to be silenced. I am just looking for a simple answer,
:13:35. > :13:37.yes or no? I would join a Shadow Cabinet, a genuine team working
:13:38. > :13:42.together and debating the future of the party. I am not interested in
:13:43. > :13:48.joining a fan club. I think that is a No. I hope that Lisa will join.
:13:49. > :13:56.When Jeremy one, he reached out to a lot of people that disagree with him
:13:57. > :13:59.politically. My wife and I went out for a meal with Jeremy years ago and
:14:00. > :14:05.on the way home she said, that's the nicest man I've ever met in my life.
:14:06. > :14:10.I thought, thanks! This is the thing. Jeremy is genuinely a nice
:14:11. > :14:16.person. He is desperate to reach out and bring them back and if they say
:14:17. > :14:22.no, it is wrong. This is too easy for your lot. It is a disaster for
:14:23. > :14:26.democracy and the Labour Party. I don't think the Labour Party will
:14:27. > :14:30.split, but Corbyn is will be tested to destruction. Labour will lose
:14:31. > :14:36.badly at the next election, whenever it is, probably 2020 Jeremy Corbyn
:14:37. > :14:40.on as leader. I think that is what will happen, and at that point
:14:41. > :14:44.hopefully the Labour Party will find a leader who can lead them out of
:14:45. > :14:48.this wilderness they have wandered into. Because it is very bad for the
:14:49. > :14:53.country and very bad for a great party, which has been destroyed from
:14:54. > :14:57.within. What does it mean when Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell
:14:58. > :15:01.talk about mobilising a mass movement beyond parliament? We are
:15:02. > :15:05.never going to win an election because of their coverage in
:15:06. > :15:09.newspapers. It is overwhelmingly hostile. The way we can win is by
:15:10. > :15:15.building a good grass -- grass-roots machine. When I lost my last
:15:16. > :15:19.election to Boris, the polls had him up to 12 points ahead, but in the
:15:20. > :15:23.end it was only 3%. That was not because the polls were wrong. We
:15:24. > :15:26.built a really good machine, with thousands of people getting the vote
:15:27. > :15:32.out. That is the most important thing in winning. But where is the
:15:33. > :15:36.evidence that Mr Corbyn could win the next election? I would not have
:15:37. > :15:41.voted for him if I did not think he could win. The evidence is on the
:15:42. > :15:45.economic policy. He has broken from the Blairite nonsense of the
:15:46. > :15:48.neoliberal economic agenda. It is about investment, rebuilding the
:15:49. > :15:51.manufacturing base, modern, high-tech industries and building
:15:52. > :15:55.council homes that our children can afford to live in.
:15:56. > :16:00.We were saying that at the last general election and it was roundly
:16:01. > :16:03.accepted by the general public. I don't think that programme was
:16:04. > :16:08.wrong, we failed to convince people. One of reasons we failed to convince
:16:09. > :16:11.people wasn't because we weren't knocking on enough doors but because
:16:12. > :16:14.we hadn't built a broad alliance that could reach into different
:16:15. > :16:19.parts of the country. That's why Sadiq at the moment is... You mean
:16:20. > :16:31.the London Mayor? Most successful Labour politician in the country,
:16:32. > :16:37.he's created that broad alliance. People ask what did the last Labour
:16:38. > :16:43.Government do for me. Ed Miliband was bearing the brunt. We didn't
:16:44. > :16:49.build council housing and didn't restructure the economy away from
:16:50. > :16:53.the... Well All of that I agree with, but we brought in the minimum
:16:54. > :16:58.wage which completely transformed the prospects for a lot of my
:16:59. > :17:03.constituents in Wigan. Cameron said we didn't fix... We built the
:17:04. > :17:10.buildings from the ground up and made sure we invested in people. It
:17:11. > :17:13.made a huge difference. Without your kind of person around the Labour
:17:14. > :17:17.Party, Labour won three elections in a row. Can you really win another
:17:18. > :17:19.election by essentially running against the record of the last
:17:20. > :17:24.Labour Government? I think you have got to admit we made a lot of
:17:25. > :17:29.mistakes. All Governments do. Yes, but the key ones we didn't
:17:30. > :17:35.restructure our economy, we carried on in awe of the bankers. That's the
:17:36. > :17:37.anger people feel. What other major Western economy has reversed the
:17:38. > :17:44.decline in the manufacturing industry? Precisely - that's why...
:17:45. > :17:50.You mean there isn't one? That's why... You mean there isn't one? No,
:17:51. > :18:00.no. The manufacturing industry does decline, it's a feature of advanced
:18:01. > :18:05.economies. There is hi-tech modern manufacturing. It's not that big.
:18:06. > :18:14.Five times the amount to China that we do. Germany's never allowed the
:18:15. > :18:19.bankers to run their economy. Can you win with, well the trouble
:18:20. > :18:24.Deutsche Bank is in right now, but can you win with Jeremy Corbyn? We
:18:25. > :18:28.can win. Will you win? If we start talking a seriously about what the
:18:29. > :18:31.future of the economy looks like. We have got to get beyond the
:18:32. > :18:35.anti-austerity slogan which captures a lot of the anger, as Ken said. We
:18:36. > :18:39.need to start thinking about where are the jobs for the future coming,
:18:40. > :18:44.not just about re-opening the coal mines but let's start thinking about
:18:45. > :18:48.how we create clean energy jobs. We shall see, Ken Livingstone, thank
:18:49. > :18:51.you very much. We got through nine minutes without mentioning Hitler,
:18:52. > :18:57.oh I think I just did. Do you want me to respond? No! Because it's
:18:58. > :19:02.Too-late-to-vote-for-Jeremy-Corbyn late.
:19:03. > :19:07.But don't despair, because if Owen Smith's
:19:08. > :19:10.not your cup of tea, waiting in the wings, we've got
:19:11. > :19:23.But not before we've had a drum roll for Jimmy Brown, the man
:19:24. > :19:28.But he's not with band mate Ali Campbell tonight,
:19:29. > :19:32.The lead singer of UB40 left in 2008.
:19:33. > :19:36.Who better then to put break-up and moving on under the spotlight?
:19:37. > :19:39.And if this labour of love isn't enough for you, don't forget
:19:40. > :19:42.there are more promises and lies on Twitter,
:19:43. > :19:49.the Fleecebook and David Cameron's websphere, wherever that may be.
:19:50. > :19:51.Now, it may have escaped your notice but it's
:19:52. > :19:56.Our Ed's been enjoying himself, rather too much if you ask me,
:19:57. > :20:00.modelling Jean Paul Gaultier's new range for Speedo.
:20:01. > :20:03.If only Theresa had seen the snaps, she might well have kept him
:20:04. > :20:09.Meanwhile, our Lisa's been a big hit, attempting to bring
:20:10. > :20:11.that much maligned fashion statement the shell suit
:20:12. > :20:13.back into vogue, in a blatant attempt to ingratiate
:20:14. > :20:32.Here's Quentin Letts with this week's Roundup.
:20:33. > :20:38.But that's just not Brad's look this season.
:20:39. > :20:49.It's London Fashion Week, and those dedicated followers
:20:50. > :20:52.of fashion, the Liberal Democrats, have been
:20:53. > :21:00.This autumn conference collection of ideas focused on handing power
:21:01. > :21:06.When Theresa May does agree a deal with the European Union,
:21:07. > :21:11.Not a rerun of the referendum, not a second referendum,
:21:12. > :21:17.but a referendum on the terms of the as yet unknown Brexit deal.
:21:18. > :21:21.And if the Tories say, we've had enough referendums,
:21:22. > :21:29.And they weren't shy about showcasing some classic
:21:30. > :21:34.We will offer a new deal for health and social care,
:21:35. > :21:37.honest about the cost, bold about the solution.
:21:38. > :21:41.And if the only way to fund a health service that meets the needs
:21:42. > :21:46.of everyone is to raise taxes, Liberal Democrats will raise taxes.
:21:47. > :21:51.Nick Clegg reassured delegates the Tories were up a Brexit
:21:52. > :21:56.creek without a paddle, a canoe or a map.
:21:57. > :22:05.But he also managed to squeeze in some book signing.
:22:06. > :22:09.Shunning London's fashionistas, style icon Theresa May flew
:22:10. > :22:17.No, she was not launching her own brand of kitten heels.
:22:18. > :22:20.She was making her first speech as Prime Minister
:22:21. > :22:22.to the United Nations General Assembly.
:22:23. > :22:25.She set out proposals aimed at stopping uncontrolled
:22:26. > :22:30.In addition to refugees and displaced people fleeing
:22:31. > :22:33.conflict and persecution, we are seeing an unprecedented
:22:34. > :22:37.movement of people in search of greater economic opportunities
:22:38. > :22:44.This affects all of us and it is the responsibility of us
:22:45. > :22:50.We cannot ignore this challenge or allow it to continue unmanaged.
:22:51. > :22:52.New Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson just can't stay out
:22:53. > :22:58.Cameras at the United Nations caught him playing around
:22:59. > :23:01.on his telephone when he should have been listening to the Prime
:23:02. > :23:06.Some people suggested Boris might have been playing Pokemon.
:23:07. > :23:13.I suspect he was writing his speech for the Tory party conference.
:23:14. > :23:18.London Mayor Sadiq Khan was also in New York this week
:23:19. > :23:21.and was pressed again about Donald Trump's views on Islam.
:23:22. > :23:25.Did he still think they were ignorant?
:23:26. > :23:28.It is possible to be a Westerner and a Muslim.
:23:29. > :23:31.It is possible to have multiple layers of identity.
:23:32. > :23:34.I don't want to have a bust up with Donald Trump,
:23:35. > :23:37.but my point was, look, you are standing to be the most
:23:38. > :23:39.powerful person in the world, the President of the USA.
:23:40. > :23:41.The rest of the world looks upon you with admiration
:23:42. > :23:44.as a country and I think running for the office brings
:23:45. > :24:04.Yes, it's the Lib Dem conference, yes, it's London Fashion Week,
:24:05. > :24:07.and yes, fashion god and goddess Brangelina have split.
:24:08. > :24:13.But the only game in town this week is the Labour leadership contest.
:24:14. > :24:20.Original socialist supermodel Jeremy Corbyn, and then the bookies'
:24:21. > :24:26.I'm still going to be fighting right up to the last minute for every
:24:27. > :24:29.single vote and I still think we've got an opportunity
:24:30. > :24:34.to save the Labour Party, to stop this infighting,
:24:35. > :24:37.to stop groups like Momentum seeking to undermine MPs at Westminster
:24:38. > :24:41.and get back to what we need to be, which is a united and effective
:24:42. > :24:50.Labour's ruling body, the NEC, met this week to discuss
:24:51. > :24:53.whether or not MPs should elect a Shadow Cabinet.
:24:54. > :24:56.Mr Corbyn wanted members to have a say, but the PLP, the
:24:57. > :25:02.The meeting went on for eight and a half hours and they
:25:03. > :25:06.Eight and a half hours, I know!
:25:07. > :25:15.That's as long as it takes Andrew Neil to do his make up.
:25:16. > :25:17.But what is it that you're looking for?
:25:18. > :25:24.Is it the ensemble that will last all seasons?
:25:25. > :25:27.Then you've come to the Corbyn capsule ready-to-wear
:25:28. > :25:35.Sadly, for everyone, it's the same Jeremy Corbyn.
:25:36. > :25:39.The same Jeremy Corbyn who's been through the last year, indeed
:25:40. > :25:44.I do know a lot of these people extremely well.
:25:45. > :25:49.I understand the strengths and the passions that many have,
:25:50. > :25:53.and I invite them, if I get a second mandate on Saturday morning,
:25:54. > :25:56.to come on board, work together, as we have in the past
:25:57. > :26:02.There is only one way forward that can bring us a Labour government
:26:03. > :26:04.and that is working together to challenge the Tories
:26:05. > :26:10.Does high fashion mean anything to the man and woman in the street?
:26:11. > :26:18.Mere mortals just marvel at the spectacle, and Labour
:26:19. > :26:21.in Liverpool this week, when they finally decide
:26:22. > :26:41.And I'm delighted to be joined by Nigel Farage,
:26:42. > :26:56.who promises he'll never be leader of Ukip ever ever again.
:26:57. > :27:21.Miranda promises she'll never ever be leader of Ukip either, so does
:27:22. > :27:27.Nigel Farage! I'm happy with that. With Labour
:27:28. > :27:33.moving to the left, theoretically, this should be through the centre
:27:34. > :27:38.the Liberal Democrats comeback route. Why does it not feel like
:27:39. > :27:43.that? Well, that is the absolutely key question for them and in
:27:44. > :27:49.Brighton, at the same time as a cheered up feeling about lots and
:27:50. > :27:53.lots of new members, you know, every Thursday, they are kind of whacking
:27:54. > :27:57.Labour in a council by-election, but, you know, the national poll
:27:58. > :28:03.rating is totally where it was two years ago. It's stuck on seven or
:28:04. > :28:08.eight, so there's this feeling of consciousness that this could be a
:28:09. > :28:14.great opportunity for the party, but have they got the ear of those
:28:15. > :28:17.moderate Labour voters who might feel disenfranchised. I do think
:28:18. > :28:21.they are hoping for another little membership boost after Saturday. Do
:28:22. > :28:27.the Liberal Democrats have any act tractions for you? No. Sorry. But
:28:28. > :28:31.you came to the conference and everybody loved you. Perhaps. I came
:28:32. > :28:36.to the conference on Sunday to remind those Lib Dem members who,
:28:37. > :28:41.like me, care about investing in Public Services and a decent social
:28:42. > :28:46.security system and human rights and... If you care about the same
:28:47. > :28:50.things, why don't you get together? That's what I went to the conference
:28:51. > :28:53.for to remind them that we are losing the argument and the point
:28:54. > :28:57.about Labour falling in the polls. That tells you that we are losing
:28:58. > :29:02.the argument with the public. We need to get much better at working
:29:03. > :29:08.together on the things that we have in common. Is no attraction of the
:29:09. > :29:13.centrist MPs like yourself? No. Actually, we are very distinct
:29:14. > :29:18.parties with distinct traditions and the... At the moment you are
:29:19. > :29:22.distinct losers, both of you? That's partly why I went to Brighton.
:29:23. > :29:25.That's a fair point, you're absolutely right. No point being
:29:26. > :29:32.distinct if you lose all the time. Is there a Lib Dem policy of having
:29:33. > :29:38.a second referendum? Explain to me how, if we said now we'll have a
:29:39. > :29:44.second referendum on the Brexit deal when it's done, why would the
:29:45. > :29:50.European Union give us anything in the negotiations? Well, I think the
:29:51. > :29:54.point is that the referendum we've just had didn't give a clear answer
:29:55. > :29:58.on where the country is going to end up in, for example in ten years'
:29:59. > :30:01.time. I know the case, but if you say to the European Union, we are
:30:02. > :30:06.going to have a second referendum and the European Union wants us to
:30:07. > :30:10.remain, they'll obviously give us as bad a deal as possible so it looks
:30:11. > :30:17.terrible, look at the choice between staying in, we'll be all right, and
:30:18. > :30:22.leaving in Siberian terms. Surely that's inevitable? I think the
:30:23. > :30:26.incentive force the rest of Europe to treat us harshly are pretty much
:30:27. > :30:30.already there to be honest. I don't think it would make a huge
:30:31. > :30:34.difference. There is a question genuinely of legitimacy of where we
:30:35. > :30:38.end up. If we don't have a general election on the terms on which we
:30:39. > :30:42.leave the EU or a referendum on the destination that we are heading for,
:30:43. > :30:44.in what sense has this really been approved? Will the Brexit talks
:30:45. > :30:54.split the Tories? It will cause divisions in the Tory
:30:55. > :31:00.party. It is interesting for me how quickly the hard Brexit side of the
:31:01. > :31:06.Tory party, the well-known people who campaigned to leave, not those
:31:07. > :31:10.like Boris Johnson but the Bill Cash of this world, have put down a
:31:11. > :31:15.marker to Theresa May very quickly before she has really had a chance
:31:16. > :31:19.to navigate through and set out her stall and set out the parameters she
:31:20. > :31:23.wants, which I don't think we'll come until early next year. I am not
:31:24. > :31:29.asking her to rush into setting up her stall. She has made clear to
:31:30. > :31:36.people like Boris Johnson that they should not. The longer she leaves
:31:37. > :31:41.it, the more suspicious the Brexit supporters will become. Not just
:31:42. > :31:46.Tories. 17.4 million people, despite the threats of the establishment,
:31:47. > :31:49.voted to leave the EU. People keep saying, when is it going to happen,
:31:50. > :31:57.are they going to deliver this, are we going to be let down? I would say
:31:58. > :32:00.in a sense that the Lib Dems talking about second referendums explains
:32:01. > :32:04.why their brand is now bust with the British public. They are not
:32:05. > :32:10.credible any more. And they haven't got a leader... You don't think they
:32:11. > :32:16.will recover? I don't. Tim Farron may be a nice chap but he is not
:32:17. > :32:20.connecting with a big audience. Of those that voted Remain, there 40%
:32:21. > :32:27.who access the result and say, let's get on with it. Get on with what?
:32:28. > :32:31.That is the point. They don't know what it means. It is very clear.
:32:32. > :32:38.Everybody from Boris and Michael Gove to Ukip and Frank Field, we
:32:39. > :32:44.were very clear. Not a very broad group, to be fair. Give me one that
:32:45. > :32:50.is broader, please. You have the entire spectrum. We voted to take
:32:51. > :32:56.back control of our laws, borders, fisheries, and crucially we voted to
:32:57. > :33:00.leave the single market. Those in politics who were saying we could
:33:01. > :33:03.leave the EU but stay in the single market am basically they were trying
:33:04. > :33:08.to keep us inside the European Union. It is perfectly clear what
:33:09. > :33:15.people voted for. Is Ukip still a threat to the Tories. I think Nigel
:33:16. > :33:24.will probably be back in 2019. Please! Ukip as a temporary leader
:33:25. > :33:28.and Nigel will come back at the end of 2018 to say that Brexit has not
:33:29. > :33:33.been delivered. He will seize back control but his main threat will be
:33:34. > :33:37.to Labour in the North. By that time you will be in such trouble because
:33:38. > :33:41.Corbyn will have been leader for further two years and Nigel stands a
:33:42. > :33:48.real chance of Labour seats in the North. I am not sure he is a threat
:33:49. > :33:54.to the Tories. He is saying you are just on sabbatical, not retired. I
:33:55. > :34:01.am done with party politics. Didn't you say that last time? For three
:34:02. > :34:08.days, and then I came back. You are only five days in now! Have given up
:34:09. > :34:14.politics, the backbiting. What are the odds on you coming back? Reed I
:34:15. > :34:23.don't know. I don't want to do it again. Are you behind this attempt
:34:24. > :34:26.to build a right-wing Momentum movement, a mirror image of Corbyn's
:34:27. > :34:34.on the left, that your mate is bankrolling? 38 degrees is a better
:34:35. > :34:38.example of a centre-left development through the internet who have been
:34:39. > :34:43.effective lobbying MPs, getting people to sign petitions and all the
:34:44. > :34:47.rest of it. I what Aaron Banks did, it was really interesting, to build
:34:48. > :34:50.1 million online supporters for the Brexit calls from across the
:34:51. > :34:58.spectrum. I am in courage in him to keep going with that, to make sure
:34:59. > :35:05.that as Theresa May says, Brexit means Brexit. It means we leave the
:35:06. > :35:08.single market... Not again! I have heard all this. Wouldn't your
:35:09. > :35:13.successor rather have the Aaron Banks money for the Ukip party
:35:14. > :35:20.funds? He can spend his money as he wishes. He has backed Ukip and he
:35:21. > :35:24.will go on backing Ukip, I am sure. But he is trying to build something
:35:25. > :35:29.a little bit along the lines of the Italian 5-star movement in Italy,
:35:30. > :35:33.where an online political movement is fundamentally changing Italian
:35:34. > :35:41.politics. I see you are now best mates with Donald Trump. So it
:35:42. > :35:46.looks. Is he going to win? I think he is. I get the difficulties of the
:35:47. > :35:50.swing states, but I think momentum is with him. Hillary Clinton's
:35:51. > :35:55.campaign looks tired and out of touch and Trump looks very
:35:56. > :35:58.disciplined. You have managed to cheer up everybody else. Look at
:35:59. > :36:05.their faces. Miranda is near suicidal. The Remain camp do not
:36:06. > :36:09.want change of any kind in any western country. It is coming. It is
:36:10. > :36:17.happening. Wake up, smell the coffee. On this point of total
:36:18. > :36:23.agreement... We are going to move on. I do not want change which is
:36:24. > :36:26.why I am looking forward to Nigel returning. My world is
:36:27. > :36:30.discombobulated and I am reassured that he will be back. That is a
:36:31. > :36:35.point you have made and I have finally got it. Thank you, Nigel and
:36:36. > :36:37.Miranda. You can go and like down in a dark room and we will wake you up
:36:38. > :36:40.later. Now, you may have breathed a sigh
:36:41. > :36:43.of relief when you realised Michael Portillo wasn't around
:36:44. > :36:45.to manspread in pastel chinos The truth is he can't stand to be
:36:46. > :36:49.here because it's the first That's right, this time last year,
:36:50. > :36:53.Hackney Abbott ditched him to rekindle her socialist fervour
:36:54. > :36:55.with old flame Comrade Corbyn. Of course, we invited old choo choo
:36:56. > :36:59.to the Green Room to drown his sorrows with Blue Nun,
:37:00. > :37:03.but he said this week, That's why we've decided to put
:37:04. > :37:16.break-ups in the Spotlight. I think it's a reality of marriage
:37:17. > :37:25.that you go through hard times. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie
:37:26. > :37:29.went their separate ways this week, And what of the perfect
:37:30. > :37:36.Bake Off couple? Paul Hollywood says he wants
:37:37. > :37:38.to stick with the dough But Mary Berry's had
:37:39. > :37:41.enough of soggy bottoms, leaving viewers crying
:37:42. > :37:46.into their cake mix. I think the ability to unite
:37:47. > :37:50.the party is something There seems little love lost
:37:51. > :37:56.between Jezza and his first wife who announced this week she'd vote
:37:57. > :38:00.for Owen Smith. And what of rocky relations
:38:01. > :38:02.between North and South The NEC told Scottish Labour Leader
:38:03. > :38:06.Kezia Dugdale that she could go David Cameron used to be devoted
:38:07. > :38:14.to his constituents. I love being MP for Witney and I'm
:38:15. > :38:17.very keen to continue. But despite all the talk
:38:18. > :38:21.of serving the country, bomb the back benches,
:38:22. > :38:28.he's hastily anulled their union. Even some of Angela Merkel's fans
:38:29. > :38:31.have struck up a romance with Should unhappy couples stay
:38:32. > :38:44.together, or break-up for the kids? Now we were meant to interview
:38:45. > :38:47.Katie Price at this stage. But I'm delighted to be joined
:38:48. > :39:08.by Jimmy Brown from UB40 instead. Delighted to see you here. Speaking
:39:09. > :39:13.of splits and break-ups, there are a lot around in politics and private
:39:14. > :39:19.life and so on. The UB40 split, was it tough? It wasn't that bad. I
:39:20. > :39:25.don't see it as a split because all we did was lose a singer. We would
:39:26. > :39:30.not be the first to do that. Our singer went solo. We are in
:39:31. > :39:34.difficulties now, because he had a solo career but did not do as well
:39:35. > :39:39.as he thought and started using the name again. So we are going through
:39:40. > :39:44.the courts at the moment. But we haven't split, really. The rest of
:39:45. > :39:49.the band are still here. It was only one that went. Mind you, the singer
:39:50. > :39:54.is quite important. Pretty important. Not as important as the
:39:55. > :39:58.drama. We had his brother in the cupboard waiting, so we took him out
:39:59. > :40:03.and replaced him and everything is lovely. We just did our biggest
:40:04. > :40:09.touring about 20 years. Win splits like that come on the agenda, do we
:40:10. > :40:14.fight hard enough to stop the splits from happening, or do we just think
:40:15. > :40:22.we are too lazy, we will get through, let's just get on with it?
:40:23. > :40:28.I think it's a sign of the times. There are hysterical times going on
:40:29. > :40:33.at the moment, causing all kinds of splits between different camps. I
:40:34. > :40:39.think it's a sign of the times. There is a lot of splitting. Brexit
:40:40. > :40:46.is a split. Brad and Angelina is a split. Bake Off is a split. You
:40:47. > :40:59.leaving the Shadow Cabinet is a split. Up there with Mary Berry
:41:00. > :41:03.leaving. Are we becoming more of a break-up ridden society? It is too
:41:04. > :41:13.late, I have no idea what you are talking about. Are we becoming more
:41:14. > :41:17.atomised as a society. Many people at the moment are feeling anxious in
:41:18. > :41:21.this country about a lot of things. It is a lot to do with economic
:41:22. > :41:25.insecurity. We have had seismic changes politically in the last few
:41:26. > :41:29.years and I think it's very hard to predict what the future will look
:41:30. > :41:31.like, and thereof very few politicians talking about a positive
:41:32. > :41:39.vision for the future and how we shape it. -- there are very few
:41:40. > :41:43.politicians. That has created the sense of people feeling quite
:41:44. > :41:48.anxious about things. And I don't think Mary Berry leaving Bake Off
:41:49. > :41:57.has helped. But I do love her. I can't wait to see her new show. You
:41:58. > :42:01.had a split with government offices. Yes, I have exit it. The Tory party
:42:02. > :42:05.is split with me and I am on the backbenches. But I think we are
:42:06. > :42:09.staying together. Despite being rejected from the government, I
:42:10. > :42:14.remain utterly loyal to the Prime Minister, so I hope she is watching.
:42:15. > :42:18.And we shouldn't forget that Scotland decided to stay. There are
:42:19. > :42:21.examples where people look at the door and decide not to walk through
:42:22. > :42:34.it. I think we should cheer up a bit. Were you upset by the Brexit
:42:35. > :42:40.split? I was with Corbyn, really. I really did not want to be left in
:42:41. > :42:44.the hands of Boris. Do you think Labour will split? No. There is
:42:45. > :42:51.nowhere for the rebels to go. Back in the day, there was the SDP. So I
:42:52. > :42:55.don't see a split, I really don't. And you would be happy to see Mr
:42:56. > :43:03.Corbyn get re-elected? Very happy, yes. Do you think he can win an
:43:04. > :43:06.election? Definitely. We have a low turnout in this country compare to
:43:07. > :43:11.other countries. It is about getting people out and voting. They cannot
:43:12. > :43:15.use the mainstream press the way the Tories do. They have low membership
:43:16. > :43:21.in the Tory party and they are happy to get the message out through the
:43:22. > :43:27.mainstream media. You will have to write us a campaign song. You said
:43:28. > :43:33.you have just finished a tour. We are just starting one. In Leeds, I
:43:34. > :43:38.think. It is the end of one of the biggest tours we have done in a long
:43:39. > :43:40.time. The final leg. Good luck with it. Good to see you.
:43:41. > :43:45.Keith Vaz is having his select committee
:43:46. > :43:53.I'm told there will be party poppers and, um, poppers.
:43:54. > :44:35.# Baby, baby Naneun mwol jom aneunnom
:44:36. > :44:43.# Baby, baby Naneun mwol jom aneunnom
:44:44. > :45:15.OK, my love, I'm going to tell you how to give him mouth to mouth, OK?
:45:16. > :45:17.When resources stretch to breaking point,
:45:18. > :45:19.follow London's emergency ambulance service
:45:20. > :45:22.as they make life or death decisions every day.
:45:23. > :45:26.It's now been three hours that this guy's been waiting. He's 92.
:45:27. > :45:30.This is upsetting, because now he's got to wait longer.