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:00:07. > :00:09.Tonight on This Week, the nation struggles to get

:00:10. > :00:21.I'm going nowhere fast, just like my TV career.

:00:22. > :00:29.Strike fever hits the planes, the trains and the automobiles,

:00:30. > :00:31.but intrepid reporter Miranda Green shows great initiative

:00:32. > :00:44.Come hell or high water, I've got to get to the This Week sofa.

:00:45. > :00:46.A doctor Saleyha Ahsan returns from an emergency trip

:00:47. > :00:49.She says talk of a humanitarian crisis in the NHS

:00:50. > :00:58.Sorry, Theresa May, but you're wrong, the NHS is facing

:00:59. > :01:00.a humanitarian crisis, and I see it every day

:01:01. > :01:15.And if the winter of discontent is getting you down, don't despair.

:01:16. > :01:20.Hypnotist and mind bender extraordinaire Paul McKenna will put

:01:21. > :01:28.I've been trying to stay upbeat but this show

:01:29. > :01:52.You're going the wrong way. Bloody idiot. You're going in the wrong

:01:53. > :01:56.direction. We're not going the wrong way. He's been on the Blue Nun.

:01:57. > :02:09.Andrew, help! Let me begin by wishing

:02:10. > :02:15.y'all a happy new year. And let me be clear,

:02:16. > :02:19.happy new year means happy new year. It's not my job to give

:02:20. > :02:23.a running commentary on 2017. It IS my job to give

:02:24. > :02:28.a running commentary? Well, if that's the case what's

:02:29. > :02:32.the point of Newsnight? we await news of the latest

:02:33. > :02:42.Kompromat, the salacious and compromising material

:02:43. > :02:46.the Kremlin has been gathering We know they've got a lot

:02:47. > :02:51.on our Michael, which is why he's given up his political career

:02:52. > :02:53.and circles the globe alone by train, like

:02:54. > :02:57.an Ancient Mariner on tracks. And they obviously have a lot

:02:58. > :03:00.on Diane because she's now a leading light in the Corbyn Project,

:03:01. > :03:03.which is as good a way of ending your political career

:03:04. > :03:06.as spending most of your life on the 06.13 milk train

:03:07. > :03:08.from Chipping Sod-Off Speaking of folks on the trail

:03:09. > :03:15.to nowhere, we're joined by two people who've got one thing

:03:16. > :03:18.in common with Meryl Streep. Donald Trump thinks

:03:19. > :03:21.they're both overrated. Chris #OhItsNotEdBalls Leslie,

:03:22. > :03:29.and Michael #choochoo Portillo, who made it here only because he can

:03:30. > :03:43.open his own doors. Your moment of the week? Well, I

:03:44. > :03:47.thought the resignation of Sir Ivan Rogers, our ambassador to the

:03:48. > :03:52.European Union. It struck me that people like him, Mandarin, who are

:03:53. > :03:56.accountable only through politicians to the public, have been in bedding

:03:57. > :04:01.us in the European Union for the last 50 years. So they are actually

:04:02. > :04:05.the sort of people the British people voted against in the

:04:06. > :04:09.referendum. But it also strongly illustrated that one of the problems

:04:10. > :04:12.the government has is how on earth to set about negotiating a Brexit

:04:13. > :04:18.using mandarins, Foreign Office officials and other departments, who

:04:19. > :04:23.absolutely do not believe in Brexit. It is a massive institutional

:04:24. > :04:26.problem. My guess is we will have two years of inconclusive

:04:27. > :04:33.negotiations followed by a political settlement. We shall see. Chris,

:04:34. > :04:37.your moment of the week? Probably the contrast between Obama's

:04:38. > :04:41.farewell speech in Chicago and Donald Trump's press conference in

:04:42. > :04:47.New York. Because you had two presidents with a very different

:04:48. > :04:49.message. Obama, talking about the importance of defending

:04:50. > :04:55.representative democracy and citizens taking their

:04:56. > :05:00.responsibility, and Trump sort of laying into the intelligence

:05:01. > :05:06.agencies, the media. Not Putin, though, who got away without

:05:07. > :05:09.criticism. It was quite a contrast. Shape of things to come.

:05:10. > :05:12.The NHS took centre stage in our political discourse this week,

:05:13. > :05:16.Some hospitals say they're failing to cope with demand, some NHS staff

:05:17. > :05:20.Experts talk of a crisis and this time we're inclined to believe them.

:05:21. > :05:23.We're waiting longer for ambulances, waiting longer for treatment once

:05:24. > :05:25.they get us to A, and resources are being stretched

:05:26. > :05:31.As winter shows its icy teeth, will parts of the NHS crumble under

:05:32. > :05:34.the pressure, or will we continue to muddle through?

:05:35. > :05:37.Here with her Take of the Week is A doctor and former

:05:38. > :06:05.As an Army officer, I felt the anxiety and pressure when deployed

:06:06. > :06:09.on military operations like Bosnia. Now, as a doctor working in

:06:10. > :06:15.emergency medicine, I frequently get that same feeling. I recently

:06:16. > :06:20.travelled on an aid mission to the Syrian- Turkish border, helping

:06:21. > :06:25.build a children's hospital. Believe me, I know what a humanitarian

:06:26. > :06:29.crisis is. When I heard the situation in the NHS described as

:06:30. > :06:36.one, I wasn't baffled or outrage, I agreed. The Red Cross description

:06:37. > :06:42.isn't irresponsible or overblown, as Theresa May claims. It's

:06:43. > :06:47.proportionate. Anyone who has had to face the anxiety of more and more

:06:48. > :06:50.patients rushing into resuscitation when there isn't any space will

:06:51. > :07:01.understand this. What are we going to do when we run out of ambulance

:07:02. > :07:06.space and corridor space? At least in the military they had resources

:07:07. > :07:10.and the will to throw at a situation. In A it feels we are

:07:11. > :07:17.hanging by a thread, ready to snap at any time. Yes, the NHS needs more

:07:18. > :07:21.funding. Yes, we need more doctors, but we also need to sort out social

:07:22. > :07:27.care. The last government reduced what was available in the community.

:07:28. > :07:33.Now, most elderly patients, when discharged from hospital, are soon

:07:34. > :07:37.back, trapped in a revolving door. The Health Secretary tries to

:07:38. > :07:42.reassure us, but he has already lost the confidence of the NHS workforce,

:07:43. > :07:51.and the British public might not be far behind. His position is

:07:52. > :07:54.untenable. Without a radical action, like any other humanitarian crisis

:07:55. > :08:03.this could spiral out of control and risk more lives.

:08:04. > :08:10.Special thanks to mayhem paint bawling in Essex for letting us

:08:11. > :08:14.film. Welcome. We have just managed to thaw you out in the last few

:08:15. > :08:19.hours. Thank you for joining us. Let's get rid of the nomenclature of

:08:20. > :08:23.matter. The NHS is undoubtedly being stretched, in some cases to breaking

:08:24. > :08:30.point, as we can see, but does it make sense, does it help the debate

:08:31. > :08:34.to compare it to places like Aleppo? When I first heard that news story I

:08:35. > :08:39.was actually on my way into a shift at 8am. I was driving in last

:08:40. > :08:46.Saturday from eye weekend shift. I had already been on for about three

:08:47. > :08:53.days and we had been rammed. Round? We were rammed. We were busy, very

:08:54. > :08:57.busy. I was driving in, I was still a little bit tired. I had not had

:08:58. > :09:00.much downtime between busy shifts. When I drove in and heard that

:09:01. > :09:08.headline I thought, that is about right. And I can qualify that,

:09:09. > :09:12.because I have worked in humanitarian situations before. So

:09:13. > :09:16.when I say, yes, I think it's comparatively, its comparator with

:09:17. > :09:21.the way it makes me feel, the feelings it evokes when we are busy,

:09:22. > :09:25.when resuscitation is full and the nurses are coming up to you and

:09:26. > :09:31.saying, which of these very sick people is the least sick, to take

:09:32. > :09:35.out, so we can move another one in? And she is pointing at you to make

:09:36. > :09:39.that decision. That is not far off some of the other situations I have

:09:40. > :09:46.been in. I understand what you are saying. The NHS is always in some

:09:47. > :09:51.sort of crisis but is this different, is it stretched in some

:09:52. > :09:55.places to breaking point? I find that difficult to judge and so does

:09:56. > :09:59.the Prime Minister. I think this comparison with a humanitarian

:10:00. > :10:03.crisis has been very unhelpful. I think because on the whole people

:10:04. > :10:08.will not believe it. I mean, you have talked about comparable

:10:09. > :10:13.feelings, but that is not what we think of in a humanitarian crisis.

:10:14. > :10:17.We think of vast numbers at imminent risk of death, starvation, being

:10:18. > :10:21.bombed, whatever. I think the comparison has been unhelpful and it

:10:22. > :10:24.gave Theresa May rather an easy time because she could say in an outraged

:10:25. > :10:30.way, to make this comparison is ridiculous. I can perfectly

:10:31. > :10:35.understand the frustration of people in the National Health Service. It

:10:36. > :10:39.is not just frustration, it is concerned. I can also understand the

:10:40. > :10:44.frustration of the government because as you say, we have been

:10:45. > :10:48.here so often before. The NHS was asked how much money it needed, at a

:10:49. > :10:51.time when there was an election and they asked for 8 billion, which the

:10:52. > :10:56.government came forward with. And now they are being told they cannot

:10:57. > :10:59.cope. The government also has a right to say, hang on, if we did

:11:00. > :11:05.what we were asked to do, how is it that you are not able to manage?

:11:06. > :11:10.Simon Stevens, the chief Executive of the NHS, went before a select

:11:11. > :11:15.committee. Quite amazing scenes. He was literally holding up a copy of

:11:16. > :11:18.the daily may and saying, basically, we are lagging behind the rest of

:11:19. > :11:25.Europe. This is effectively a civil servant. From my own experience in

:11:26. > :11:30.Nottingham, a big teaching hospital, emergency department, year after

:11:31. > :11:36.year we get further from this 95%, four our waiting target. The Health

:11:37. > :11:40.Secretary, Johnny Hunt, is saying maybe the target is wrong, but it is

:11:41. > :11:48.a good litmus test for the strain in the NHS. It has been abandoned in

:11:49. > :11:52.practice. He says he will exclude non-urgent, which is an atrocious

:11:53. > :11:57.way of dealing with the problem. If you can't hit the target, move the

:11:58. > :12:04.target. It is very stressful for a lot of people. Hospitals, it seems,

:12:05. > :12:08.in this particular crisis in the NHS, have become the new front line.

:12:09. > :12:13.People are flooding into A because they cannot get a GP appointment.

:12:14. > :12:18.But hospitals are also chock-a-block because social care has been cut,

:12:19. > :12:26.and particularly elderly patients can't be released into care.

:12:27. > :12:31.Absolutely. So when I come onto a shift, the first thing I do is look

:12:32. > :12:35.at the board. Do I have white squares that are empty on the board,

:12:36. > :12:41.or have all of those white squares got a name on them? And most of

:12:42. > :12:45.them, if it is a day when it is full, quite a few of them will have

:12:46. > :12:50.been patients who have been seen, accepted even the day before. We

:12:51. > :12:55.have to write the date and time, and it is sometimes even the day before.

:12:56. > :13:00.These are often people who we have been unable to move into the

:13:01. > :13:05.hospital itself, because the hospital is full. So many of the

:13:06. > :13:09.patients I have seen in the last two months, a fair proportion have been

:13:10. > :13:16.elderly people who have nowhere else to go, or they have been seen,

:13:17. > :13:26.discharged a few days before and they are back two days later. The

:13:27. > :13:30.NHS got what it asked for for this year, but is not getting what it

:13:31. > :13:34.asked for for upcoming years, which is why, per capita funding in the

:13:35. > :13:45.NHS is going to start to fall for the first time, really, in the NHS'

:13:46. > :13:48.history. There was also a 4.5 billion cut in social care which

:13:49. > :13:51.creates the problem of elderly people in beds in hospitals,

:13:52. > :13:56.probably the worst place for them in many cases, with nowhere to go. It

:13:57. > :14:01.seems to me, is it not indisputable that more money is required for the

:14:02. > :14:05.NHS and for social care? I don't know whether that is indisputable. I

:14:06. > :14:12.think if you were in government you would feel rather impatient that one

:14:13. > :14:17.demand after another is made. If I were in government I would feel very

:14:18. > :14:21.impatient. The man should be running the show, asked for a certain amount

:14:22. > :14:24.of money and was given it, then goes in front of Parliament and starts

:14:25. > :14:29.attacking the Prime Minister. We have just heard that one of the

:14:30. > :14:34.elements is that GPs, apparently, some of them are shutting surgeries

:14:35. > :14:38.at 3pm. What is Simon Stevens doing to manage that? Not everything can

:14:39. > :14:43.be decreed by a Prime Minister. I have to speak up for my GP

:14:44. > :14:47.colleagues. I have two sisters who are GPs. They are overrun and

:14:48. > :14:53.overstretched. I don't know about those shutting at 3pm, but on the

:14:54. > :14:58.whole they are worked to the hilt. But I thought you agreed that one of

:14:59. > :15:02.the problems was that GPs were not taking patients who are being

:15:03. > :15:09.diverted to hospitals. It is social care in the community, the whole

:15:10. > :15:15.spectrum. You don't always need a GP at home for some of the things we

:15:16. > :15:20.discharge patients for. Package of care, levels of care that we can put

:15:21. > :15:25.in place. That can take, that is not a quick process. It can take a bit

:15:26. > :15:31.of time. And until that is setup, the patients are often with us. What

:15:32. > :15:34.we used to have in place were convalescence homes, for example,

:15:35. > :15:39.community hospitals, cottage hospitals, something that is a

:15:40. > :15:43.stopgap between acute medical and going home.

:15:44. > :15:51.You have to see the thing as a whole. In the Health Service, it's

:15:52. > :15:55.vastly more because you have the drugs budgets going up And plus the

:15:56. > :16:02.demands are much from the population. That is the problem.

:16:03. > :16:07.What is to be done is the question. As you look around the richer

:16:08. > :16:13.European economies, Germany spends 11% of its GDP on health, Sweden the

:16:14. > :16:20.same, France about the same as well. We are more like 9.5%, but where is

:16:21. > :16:23.the political will to get up to that standard and what reforms will be

:16:24. > :16:30.demanded and where would the money come from? Personally... My guess

:16:31. > :16:35.would be the countries that are spending more, they are spending

:16:36. > :16:39.from different pockets of money. Germany, Trade Unions played an

:16:40. > :16:44.important part. More of an insurance? Yes. Although all money

:16:45. > :16:48.in the end comes from the people, there's only one sort of money, it

:16:49. > :16:51.really does make a difference if you have different pots from which the

:16:52. > :16:54.money can come. I think it's not sufficient for Simon Stevens to say

:16:55. > :16:57.the Germans are spending more, I think you would have to say, what

:16:58. > :17:02.sort of reform would enable us to get to that level of contribution.

:17:03. > :17:07.After all, the country in the world that spends the most on health is of

:17:08. > :17:14.course the United States. But you see, don't forget, a lot of that is

:17:15. > :17:18.administrative bureaucratic payments, the great beauty of the

:17:19. > :17:27.NHS is that it's getting money to the frontline. My own view is it's

:17:28. > :17:30.by partisanship for the cross party long-term serious grown-up politics

:17:31. > :17:34.about how we are going to fund social care issues, not just NHS.

:17:35. > :17:39.Remember, back when you were Shadow Chancellor I think you came straight

:17:40. > :17:45.after Gordon Brown in 2002 or around then, you had that 1% increase on

:17:46. > :17:48.national insurance which was actually a very popular move because

:17:49. > :17:50.it was ringfenced for the NHS. Now, there are some difficult decisions

:17:51. > :17:55.we have got to start talking about and be grown up about. A final word

:17:56. > :18:00.from you, is it fundamentally money or are there structural changes that

:18:01. > :18:03.have to be made too? What we don't need are more very expensive

:18:04. > :18:10.top-down reforms that cost lots of money. What we don't need or do? We

:18:11. > :18:13.don't need lots and lots of money going into restructuring systems.

:18:14. > :18:17.You have had a lot of that. We have had a lot of that and that's

:18:18. > :18:24.contributed to some of the situation we are in now. We are having around

:18:25. > :18:29.?50 million being spent on this new role of physician associates or

:18:30. > :18:34.whatever the half doctors they're called or whatever. What is the

:18:35. > :18:38.headline? Number one, listen to the workforce, we say it's akin to a

:18:39. > :18:43.humanitarian crisis because it is and it's not said lightly. Two,

:18:44. > :18:46.cross party solution. It's got to be taken out of the political point

:18:47. > :18:51.scoring system that it is now. We need a sensible approach and this

:18:52. > :18:54.means everyone in. The third one? If you do not want to be getting the

:18:55. > :18:58.backup of the workforce that you are relying on, so if the doctors say

:18:59. > :19:11.you can't stretch us across seven days, don't try to.

:19:12. > :19:15.Thank you for being with us. This time tomorrow I'll be two hours into

:19:16. > :19:18.my night shift and I hope that you are right, that we are not in a

:19:19. > :19:20.humanitarian crisis, I would love you to be right. Thank you very

:19:21. > :19:24.much. Now it's late, Moscow's

:19:25. > :19:27.Ritz Carlton late. But enough about watersports,

:19:28. > :19:29.we're all about a new-found zen Chris has stopped sticking pins

:19:30. > :19:33.in his Jeremy Corbyn doll For those of you now desperately

:19:34. > :19:39.trying to get rid of the idea of Michael in a downward dog

:19:40. > :19:41.position, we've got hypnotist extraordinaire Paul McKenna

:19:42. > :19:43.waiting in the wings. So join our sharing,

:19:44. > :19:45.caring cuddly society, bring us your Twitter troubles,

:19:46. > :19:49.heal your Facebooboos because it's 2017 and we're

:19:50. > :19:53.all about the snapcheer. High anticipation here at This Week

:19:54. > :19:56.because it's the awards season. The Golden Globes, the Baftas

:19:57. > :19:59.and London Men's Fashion Week, not that Michael

:20:00. > :20:03.takes any notice of that. Jeremy Corbyn must surely win

:20:04. > :20:06.an award for his starring Simon Stevens is shortlisted

:20:07. > :20:11.for his controversial And Mark Carney's screeching U-turns

:20:12. > :20:19.on the risks of Brexit in the latest Fast and Furious movie have Leavers

:20:20. > :20:21.goggle-eyed as they munch But we were dismayed

:20:22. > :20:27.when Donald Trump named Buzzfeed We really thought we had

:20:28. > :20:33.that one in the bag. At least Britain's back

:20:34. > :20:38.in the premier league Here's Miranda Green

:20:39. > :20:52.with her round up of the week. I've only got 17 hours to get

:20:53. > :21:10.to the This Week studio. As commuters battled

:21:11. > :21:12.through the strikes, the PM started her New Year

:21:13. > :21:15.by unveiling the shared It was an announcement

:21:16. > :21:24.on mental health services. The mental health pledge was

:21:25. > :21:29.overshadowed by a row about the NHS. At PMQs, Jeremy Corbyn told Mrs May

:21:30. > :21:33.that she was in denial. She chose to attack

:21:34. > :21:37.the Red Cross for calling it We've all seen humanitarian

:21:38. > :21:47.crises around the world, and to use that description

:21:48. > :21:52.of a National Health Service which last year saw 2.5 million more

:21:53. > :21:58.people treated in Accident Emergency than six years ago,

:21:59. > :22:02.was irresponsible and overblown. The Prime Minister might not

:22:03. > :22:07.like what the Red Cross said, but on the same day,

:22:08. > :22:12.the British Medical Association said conditions in hospitals

:22:13. > :22:15.across the country are reaching The Royal College of Nursing

:22:16. > :22:19.has said NHS conditions The Royal College of Physicians has

:22:20. > :22:24.told the Prime Minister the NHS is underfunded,

:22:25. > :22:27.under doctored and overstretched. If she won't listen to the Red

:22:28. > :22:34.Cross, who will she listen to? Maybe the shared society

:22:35. > :22:39.means sharing hospital May retorted, you can't fund health

:22:40. > :22:46.and social without a strong economy. As the long, long journey

:22:47. > :22:50.towards Brexit continues, debate rages over how to read

:22:51. > :22:53.the economy's vital signs. And Mrs May confirmed that leaving

:22:54. > :22:57.the EU will mean an end I've consistently said

:22:58. > :23:08.that the referendum vote was a vote for us to change that freedom

:23:09. > :23:10.of movement, was a vote for us to bring control

:23:11. > :23:13.into our immigration system for people coming from

:23:14. > :23:15.the European Union. There's a variety of ways

:23:16. > :23:19.in which that can be done but I'm clear that that is part

:23:20. > :23:22.of what we need to deliver. The Labour leader also seemed

:23:23. > :23:25.to travel a long way from his original support

:23:26. > :23:29.for untrammelled EU immigration. At least, that's what he

:23:30. > :23:31.might have been saying. No one, not even his

:23:32. > :23:36.MPs, was quite sure. We are not wedded to free movement

:23:37. > :23:40.from the EU as a point of principle but I don't

:23:41. > :23:43.want to be misinterpreted. The Transport Secretary was pictured

:23:44. > :23:48.with some of the poor, Commuters, that is,

:23:49. > :23:52.battling along the concourse We need to stop these strikes and

:23:53. > :24:01.stop disrupting passengers' lives. There are lots of things to sort out

:24:02. > :24:05.on this railway but we can't do that while they are on strike and working

:24:06. > :24:08.to rule almost every day. Labour blamed the rail operator,

:24:09. > :24:11.and Jeremy Corbyn told the BBC he'd happily join the strikers,

:24:12. > :24:14.unlike the Labour Mayor Would you join the Southern

:24:15. > :24:21.Rail picket line? Yes, I would, because I think

:24:22. > :24:24.Southern Rail have behaved Right, never mind the trains,

:24:25. > :24:30.let's try the tube. Those Uber bosses

:24:31. > :25:11.must be raking it in. The President-elect had a few other

:25:12. > :25:24.inconveniences on his mind, namely allegations that Russia

:25:25. > :25:27.is holding compromising Mr Trump chose to attack America's

:25:28. > :25:34.spies as possible sources That nonsense that was released

:25:35. > :25:43.by maybe the intelligence agencies, who knows, but maybe

:25:44. > :25:47.the intelligence agencies, which would be a tremendous

:25:48. > :25:51.blot on their record, if they in fact did that,

:25:52. > :25:55.tremendous blot, because a thing like that should never

:25:56. > :25:58.have been written. It should never have been had

:25:59. > :26:01.and it should certainly Can you get me to

:26:02. > :26:19.Westminster, Dobbin? But there was no deal

:26:20. > :26:31.in Northern Ireland where Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness

:26:32. > :26:34.resigned over a scandal involving the DUP First

:26:35. > :26:36.Minister, Arlene Foster. We in Sinn Fein will not

:26:37. > :26:42.tolerate the arrogance Sinn Fein wants equality

:26:43. > :26:49.and respect for everyone. That is what this

:26:50. > :27:00.process must be about. The sky's looking clouded,

:27:01. > :27:26.the horizon's bleak and Dobbin Miranda made it! But the horse

:27:27. > :27:29.didn't. Welcome. Michael, the Prime Minister gave a New Year interview

:27:30. > :27:35.at the weekend, traditional one, not on the BBC this time. Are we nigh

:27:36. > :27:39.the wiser what Brexit will look like -- are we any the wiser. Yes, I

:27:40. > :27:43.think we are. It seems to me that for as long as the European Union

:27:44. > :27:47.holds to the idea that free movement of people is fundamental, then we'll

:27:48. > :27:51.not be in the single market. I don't think we'd want to be in the customs

:27:52. > :27:55.union because that restricts the deals we can do with the outside

:27:56. > :27:59.world, and then I think that leaves the question that if we are outside

:28:00. > :28:03.the single market and the customs union, will the European Union want

:28:04. > :28:06.to put up tariff barriers against their own trade into Britain and our

:28:07. > :28:10.trade out of Britain into the European Union. That will take a

:28:11. > :28:14.couple of years to resolve. How do you know though, she didn't say much

:28:15. > :28:19.of that, did she? Well, I think she has. When she first said Brexit

:28:20. > :28:23.meant Brexit, I think she meant there wasn't going to be a second

:28:24. > :28:28.referendum and secondly, she was obliged to come back from the

:28:29. > :28:30.negotiations with Parliamentary sovereignty restored and in

:28:31. > :28:35.particular, that would mean control of the borders. So if our European

:28:36. > :28:39.Union partners insist that free movement of people is a condition of

:28:40. > :28:44.being part of the single market, then part of the single market we

:28:45. > :28:49.cannot be. She's glifring a major speech on Brexit on Tuesday --

:28:50. > :28:53.delivering. I'm told they are having trouble getting to the first draft,

:28:54. > :28:59.it's Thursday. Reassuring. Surely she has to give us some idea in this

:29:00. > :29:03.speech of what Brexit would look like in her mind? I think that's

:29:04. > :29:09.right. But I think actually we did edge clearer, as Michael was saying,

:29:10. > :29:16.in her Sunday interview. On the single market? Versus freedom of

:29:17. > :29:21.movement, also her mood music, if you look at all her speeches since

:29:22. > :29:31.becoming PM and at the Home Office, it's clear that she thinks a

:29:32. > :29:37.compromise that we put on... Political mistake. So we are out of

:29:38. > :29:43.the single market in terms of membership, but we seek as wide an

:29:44. > :29:48.access as we can get. We don't think we are out of the customs union? No,

:29:49. > :29:52.and Philip Hammond having been in Germany this week trying to reassure

:29:53. > :29:55.the Germans that Britain wants to make sure that Brexit doesn't damage

:29:56. > :29:59.the rest of the EU economy and if it's all done in as friendly and

:30:00. > :30:03.mutually agreeable way as possible and also of course this week we had

:30:04. > :30:08.the rather interesting intervention from Mark Carney changing his tone

:30:09. > :30:14.quite a lot on Brexit and no longer being the major risk to the British

:30:15. > :30:17.economy. The U-turn introductions like fast and furious. Absolutely

:30:18. > :30:20.there. 'S been change so people will need to clarify things. The

:30:21. > :30:24.Government expects to lose its appeal I suspect to the Supreme

:30:25. > :30:26.Court, meaning that Parliament will have to trigger Article 50. Is there

:30:27. > :30:36.any doubt that it will? Well, I think most MPs want to

:30:37. > :30:41.respect the result of the referendum but that does not mean this isn't a

:30:42. > :30:47.moment to make sure we do not go careering off the cliff edge in

:30:48. > :30:55.April 2000 19. I think the point of the Article 50 legislation is a

:30:56. > :30:58.series of legitimate amendments to be discussed, just to ensure that

:30:59. > :31:04.the government are doing the right thing in terms of tariff - free

:31:05. > :31:09.access to the single market. The government would want that but may

:31:10. > :31:13.not be able to negotiate it. We are about to trigger this thing where we

:31:14. > :31:17.have no idea about what the objectives of the government should

:31:18. > :31:23.be. For example, I think there should be a clear objective of

:31:24. > :31:27.getting a transitional period. The head of the stock exchange yesterday

:31:28. > :31:30.was talking about five years because you need that business certainty,

:31:31. > :31:39.rather than just falling off that age. I am already thinking about the

:31:40. > :31:44.series of amendments that could be viable. This is something where

:31:45. > :31:48.there are different views across different parties. Could go on

:31:49. > :31:53.forever, could be another Maastricht Treaty. I doubt it. I think the

:31:54. > :31:56.clause bill to trigger Article 50 will move through both houses fairly

:31:57. > :32:01.swiftly because in the end Labour MPs do not want to be in a position

:32:02. > :32:04.where they could be accused by constituents, who mainly voted to

:32:05. > :32:08.leave, of trying to sabotage the whole thing. When it gets to the

:32:09. > :32:13.House of Lords, the Lords will not want to be in a position where the

:32:14. > :32:16.government creates a number of Tory peers necessary carry the

:32:17. > :32:19.legislation, which almost certainly could not be done without having a

:32:20. > :32:26.another general election, in which the Labour Party would be

:32:27. > :32:31.annihilated. One thing which will concern Mrs May is the crisis in the

:32:32. > :32:34.NHS and the other is the strikes, particularly if you live in London

:32:35. > :32:37.and the south of England. These are two challengers the Prime Minister

:32:38. > :32:42.faces, crisis NHS, crippling transport strikes. What is the

:32:43. > :32:47.evidence that she has any clue what to do about either? I think that

:32:48. > :32:53.governments generally muddle through the NHS chaos each winter. They

:32:54. > :32:57.somehow come out the other side and then the cycle is repeated the

:32:58. > :33:01.following year. She might not be right to think that is what is going

:33:02. > :33:06.to happen, but it may be what is going to happen, and it might be

:33:07. > :33:11.what the government strategy is. As for the strikes, I think the

:33:12. > :33:15.government absolutely has to win this. I know it is a dispute between

:33:16. > :33:18.management and unions but obviously the government is on the side of the

:33:19. > :33:24.management and believes the union is behaving irresponsibly. And there,

:33:25. > :33:32.at some point the government may have to take action. But we don't

:33:33. > :33:35.yet know. Labour has had U-turns on pay caps and free movement this

:33:36. > :33:41.week, both of them in the space of 12 hours. It is quite hard to keep

:33:42. > :33:45.up with it, if you are a journalist. Have mainstream Labour MPs like

:33:46. > :33:52.yourself decided to let Corbyn be Corbyn and not influence what he

:33:53. > :33:57.says, just let him get on with it? There was a relaunch. Jeremy was

:33:58. > :34:03.being Jeremy, as you say, and that is kind of what we got this week.

:34:04. > :34:08.The thing is, I think a lot of Labour MPs have spotted Theresa May

:34:09. > :34:12.Bosz complete failure to grasp the seriousness of the NHS crisis and we

:34:13. > :34:15.are very keen that that should be our primary area of focus so there

:34:16. > :34:22.is exhaust rate when sometimes things get diverted, the

:34:23. > :34:26.spokesperson goes off talking about Nato or whatever. But have you

:34:27. > :34:30.decided to let him call the shots, wherever it leads your party, you

:34:31. > :34:36.did not want him elected and tried to get him unelected, that failed.

:34:37. > :34:40.Now, if he wants to talk about caps, saying it is wrong to put British

:34:41. > :34:45.troops in Eastern Europe, is it just, let him get on with it?

:34:46. > :34:50.Because it seems to me that is now your strategy. I think a lot of

:34:51. > :34:53.Labour MPs recognise that members have made their decision and so it

:34:54. > :34:56.is for the leader to lead and take responsibility for his views and to

:34:57. > :35:02.answer what he thinks on pay caps and so forth. But where there are

:35:03. > :35:08.things that need to be said, a lot of Labour MPs will not be afraid to

:35:09. > :35:14.say that. For example, on high pay issues, whilst of course there is a

:35:15. > :35:19.problem, and a lot worse since the FTSE 100 Chief Executive is up 30%

:35:20. > :35:23.since 2010, but I personally think it is better to go down the

:35:24. > :35:27.progressive taxation discussion and have an evidence led approach,

:35:28. > :35:33.rather than necessarily dreaming up a random cap. Let me finish on the

:35:34. > :35:37.gift that keeps on giving, Mr Trump. Instead of cowering before the

:35:38. > :35:42.media, or trying to conciliate it, which most politicians do, Donald

:35:43. > :35:49.Trump just thumps the media on the nose when it offends him. Could this

:35:50. > :35:56.catch on? Maybe. I hope not. Other politicians might think this is the

:35:57. > :36:00.way to do it. Watch it! I would hope that maybe journalists in Washington

:36:01. > :36:04.would become braver in backing each other up. At the press conference

:36:05. > :36:07.there was a suggestion on Twitter which I thought was excellent which

:36:08. > :36:11.is that if he refuses to answer questions from one news

:36:12. > :36:17.organisation, everyone else asks the same question, giving him nowhere to

:36:18. > :36:24.run. That is like herding cats. Yes, but they could have a go. It is very

:36:25. > :36:27.clever what he does. I think it is extremely clever and very

:36:28. > :36:30.sophisticated because he basically lets people understand that any

:36:31. > :36:34.emanation from any media organisation is the same and not to

:36:35. > :36:40.be trusted. You muddy the waters to an extent where people don't

:36:41. > :36:44.believe... We do not know the status of these allegations, but even

:36:45. > :36:49.legitimate criticisms then have no weight. If it works, it will catch

:36:50. > :36:51.on, so we will watch out for ourselves. Miranda, thank you.

:36:52. > :36:57.No, I'm not taking up wakeboarding or scuba diving or any other

:36:58. > :37:01.My New Year's resolution is to make this failing pile of garbage

:37:02. > :37:06.So it's out with the snowflake naysayers who ran This Week's

:37:07. > :37:10.And in with an upbeat production team, family,

:37:11. > :37:12.friends and sycophants who I can really trust.

:37:13. > :37:22.Who else but the young, talented Ms Iris Bailey?!

:37:23. > :37:25.We will be the greatest TV producers God ever created.

:37:26. > :37:39.That's why we're putting positivity in this week's spotlight.

:37:40. > :37:41.Are you, like our Home Secretary, struggling to stride

:37:42. > :37:51.Why not follow the Prime Minister's confident lead?

:37:52. > :37:55.This Government has a plan, not simply to manage our withdrawal

:37:56. > :37:57.from the European Union, but to take this opportunity

:37:58. > :38:03.to fundamentally change Britain for the better.

:38:04. > :38:05.Even President Obama was upbeat about the future as he bid

:38:06. > :38:11.And that's why I leave this stage tonight even more

:38:12. > :38:16.optimistic about this country than when we started.

:38:17. > :38:22.He wasn't as positive as his successor on Wednesday.

:38:23. > :38:26.I will be the greatest jobs producer that God ever

:38:27. > :38:31.created and I mean that, I'm going to work very hard.

:38:32. > :38:33.Thank you Donald and welcome everybody to the first

:38:34. > :38:36.Not everyone is rosy about the year ahead.

:38:37. > :38:41.Nigel Farage thinks Mrs May might botch Brexit.

:38:42. > :38:44.I honestly don't see this Prime Minister has got the energy,

:38:45. > :38:53.I'm worried and I fear a very frustrating 2017.

:38:54. > :38:58.Over in La La Land, Meryl Streep's miserable about Mr Trump.

:38:59. > :39:00.So Hollywood is crawling with outsiders and foreigners

:39:01. > :39:03.and if we kick 'em all out, you'll have nothing to watch

:39:04. > :39:11.Paul McKenna, you're a self-help guru.

:39:12. > :39:13.Have you got any words to cheer up the This Week team?

:39:14. > :39:18.How dare you even think you can compete with me,

:39:19. > :39:38.And Paul McKenna joins us now. Welcome to the programme. Are you

:39:39. > :39:42.feeling positive about 2017? Actually, I am. I am feeling

:39:43. > :39:46.positive generally. I have had some challengers over the last few years

:39:47. > :39:51.but had a lot of good things happen. I recently got married. I had been

:39:52. > :39:56.living in the United States but decided to relocate here. I have a

:39:57. > :40:02.number of projects lined up for the year. I have been boring myself on

:40:03. > :40:09.radio and television with my new book, which is about getting control

:40:10. > :40:15.of sugar. I am passionate about that because I believe it is important.

:40:16. > :40:20.So you are in a positive state of mind, but are you positive because

:40:21. > :40:24.good things are happening, what around you makes you positive, or

:40:25. > :40:29.can you just have a state of mind that is positive whatever is

:40:30. > :40:33.happening? What we find from research is that people have a

:40:34. > :40:38.perceptual filter, or a reality tunnel, a way of looking at the

:40:39. > :40:42.world. Some people, because of their upbringing, possibly their genetics,

:40:43. > :40:46.they are naturally more positive than others. Some people have a

:40:47. > :40:51.tendency to be depressed and that can be again a chemical imbalance in

:40:52. > :40:57.the brain, or just unfortunate and terrible things that happened

:40:58. > :41:00.earlier in life. When I became interested in self-improvement it

:41:01. > :41:06.was because I wasn't feeling good about myself. I remember there was

:41:07. > :41:10.one day in particular, I was sent to interview the local hypnotist when I

:41:11. > :41:14.was working in radio. I was interested in yoga and meditation

:41:15. > :41:17.but I was sceptical. I had broken up with my girlfriend, people were

:41:18. > :41:25.keeping me awake at night, I had a row with my boss, one of those days.

:41:26. > :41:28.I sat down and he said, I am not going to interview you, I'm going to

:41:29. > :41:32.hypnotise you because you look worn out and stressed. I said, let the

:41:33. > :41:36.healing begin. I was benevolently sceptical about half an hour later I

:41:37. > :41:42.felt less burden and very optimistic about the future. I said, have you

:41:43. > :41:49.got any books on this. I went away and read them and my life changed.

:41:50. > :41:57.Are you in a positive frame of mind? Me? I have my moments. I think part

:41:58. > :42:07.of positivity is having a go and working towards it. And you can

:42:08. > :42:11.reach it if you work hard. As a Labour MP, contributing to the

:42:12. > :42:18.community helps keep you positive. Are you a positive state of mind

:42:19. > :42:25.chap? I am. I have a wonderful life. I have a to reflect career. What I

:42:26. > :42:29.do for a living, which is basically travelling by train, which you make

:42:30. > :42:39.fun of in every programme, it is so much fun. It is free publicity for

:42:40. > :42:43.you. Do I get a free drink from it? Never. That is why I am not

:42:44. > :42:47.positive. I would like to be but there is never any payback. I think

:42:48. > :42:51.Paul is going to make you even more positive and feel even more

:42:52. > :42:57.wonderful. Are you going to move over there? I get asked this a lot.

:42:58. > :43:04.People say, what is the one thing that will turn the round? Not just

:43:05. > :43:10.people who are down. Many people I work with are already high

:43:11. > :43:15.achievers. They say, I want to feel even better. OK, so what we are

:43:16. > :43:19.going to do is very simple. It comes in three stages. We are going to

:43:20. > :43:23.clean up anything from the past. No details, keep it private, anything

:43:24. > :43:29.that might be holding you back or was majorly upsetting. Then, I'm

:43:30. > :43:33.going to get in touch with your values, what is important to you,

:43:34. > :43:37.and then we will lock in some things you would like to have happen in

:43:38. > :43:41.2017 and put them in your mind in a way that makes them feel tangible,

:43:42. > :43:48.so that you suddenly feel more optimistic and driven. OK.

:43:49. > :43:52.Brilliant. OK, think about something, don't tell me what, think

:43:53. > :43:57.about anything that holds you back, any particular series of events.

:43:58. > :44:05.Close your eyes and tell me when you have located that. I've got it. On a

:44:06. > :44:12.scale of one to ten, how bad? Three. I need something much bigger. I'm

:44:13. > :44:19.not sure I have something much bigger. How high? I will give you

:44:20. > :44:22.six. I will reach over and touch the side of your arms. I would like you

:44:23. > :44:28.to clear your mind and stop thinking about that and imagine we are

:44:29. > :44:33.walking on a beach. By touching your arms, it releases more delta waves

:44:34. > :44:37.in your brain. I would like you to count out loud with each footstep as

:44:38. > :44:48.you walk on the beach. One, two, three...

:44:49. > :44:59.I know this looks unusual. Scientific procedure. 15, 16, 17,

:45:00. > :45:03.18... Feeling the surf. With your eyes closed, keep your head still,

:45:04. > :45:07.move your eyes laterally to the left, to the right, to the left, to

:45:08. > :45:11.the right, to the left, to the right, to the left, to the right.

:45:12. > :45:16.Then what I would like you to do is just think about something you love

:45:17. > :45:20.to do, something like playing a musical instrument or listening to

:45:21. > :45:23.music or going to the theatre or watching a film, something like

:45:24. > :45:28.that. What is one of your greatest hobbies or interests? I like

:45:29. > :45:32.travelling by train. Yes! And meeting interesting people.

:45:33. > :45:37.What is it about travelling by train that makes you feel so good? It's so

:45:38. > :45:42.enjoyable and interesting. We'll stop and relax and come on back up.

:45:43. > :45:50.When you think about that time, whatever it was, does it seem the

:45:51. > :45:54.same or does it seem less important? I just feel marvellous thank you

:45:55. > :45:57.very much, Paul. This is the first part. Great. The next thing is, I

:45:58. > :46:05.would like you to close your eyes and if it's OK, in your imagination,

:46:06. > :46:09.because I want to illicit your deepest values. Go to near the end

:46:10. > :46:14.of your life and imagine you've had a wonderful life as indeed you said

:46:15. > :46:18.you have earlier, but it's gotten even better than you thought. I

:46:19. > :46:22.would like you to, looking back if you are OK with it, tell me what

:46:23. > :46:26.made your life so good. Friends and family or career opportunities or

:46:27. > :46:32.doing things you like? Tell me about it? It was the enjoyment of great

:46:33. > :46:45.health and great friendship and terrific times. Great. If you could

:46:46. > :46:49.give any advice to the you of the future, what would you say? Keep

:46:50. > :46:53.everything in proportion. Great. Come back from this moment in time

:46:54. > :46:58.now and I would like you to do one last thing in your imagination.

:46:59. > :47:04.Imagine it's a year from now and... You've had the best year you've ever

:47:05. > :47:09.had. Yes. If that's true, what must have happened in the major areas of

:47:10. > :47:14.your life in your career, relationships, health, hobbies and

:47:15. > :47:19.interests, in every area of your life, in maybe the spiritual side of

:47:20. > :47:23.it, any area? Well, it was another lovely year of rail travel and

:47:24. > :47:28.appearing here with Andrew week after week. Great. And everyone I

:47:29. > :47:35.knew was just kind of very healthy and very fit. OK. Close your eyes

:47:36. > :47:40.now and make a big bright picture of you having had a great year and put

:47:41. > :47:44.it out there a year from now in your mind and then notice the events that

:47:45. > :47:48.happened before that all the way back to here and now. Good. Then

:47:49. > :47:53.brighten up the pictures. There you go, sorry about that, a little too

:47:54. > :47:57.strong. Brighten up the pictures, rich, bright and bold. When you look

:47:58. > :48:05.at 2017, how good do you feel? I feel fantastic!

:48:06. > :48:10.LAUGHTER. As bright as Andrew's tie. I feel good. I feel great, thank

:48:11. > :48:16.you, Paul. You are very welcome. Thank you for letting me demonstrate

:48:17. > :48:22.my techniques. Lovely, my arms feel floaty. It's the Delta waves. I knew

:48:23. > :48:28.it must be. Do you wish you had been up there, Chris? I'm feeling left

:48:29. > :48:37.out. When he said it was a great year, I thought they were going to

:48:38. > :48:42.play his journey on the train again. Things can only get better. That's

:48:43. > :48:46.my theme tune as well. When my new life began. We'll stop on a high.

:48:47. > :48:50.Paul, thank you very much for doing the best you could with Mr Portillo.

:48:51. > :48:57.That's your lot. That's your lot for tonight folks,

:48:58. > :49:00.but not for us, we're off to LouLou's for Donald Trump's

:49:01. > :49:01.amazing and tremendously It will be a golden opportunity

:49:02. > :49:05.for the President Elect Let's face it, the Donald deserves

:49:06. > :49:10.a break from the steady flow of vile personal attacks coming

:49:11. > :49:12.from fake news pedlars. Peeotus assures us it will be

:49:13. > :49:14.the greatest, yugest, bestest, bigly celebration

:49:15. > :49:16.of all the greatness that a Trump Presidency

:49:17. > :49:21.will bring to Amercia. God can take the next four years

:49:22. > :49:24.off, Donnie's in the White House. Nighty nighty, don't let

:49:25. > :49:29.the fake news haters bite. If Putin likes Donald Trump, guess

:49:30. > :49:33.what, folks, that's called an asset, Russia will have much greater

:49:34. > :49:38.respect for our country when I'm leading it than when other

:49:39. > :49:42.people have led it. Those states are going

:49:43. > :49:45.to have a lot of jobs, a lot of security, a lot of good

:49:46. > :49:49.news for their veterans. I watched yesterday, as you know,

:49:50. > :49:53.our great senator, who is going to be a great

:49:54. > :49:57.Attorney General. I think we have one of the great

:49:58. > :50:01.cabinets ever put together. You're going to be very proud of

:50:02. > :50:05.what we put forth, We're going to get those costs way

:50:06. > :50:11.down and we're going to get the plane to be even better,

:50:12. > :50:15.and we're going to have some competition and it's

:50:16. > :50:17.going to be a beautiful thing. So many incredible

:50:18. > :50:18.people coming here. They are going to do

:50:19. > :50:20.tremendous things, So there's a great spirit

:50:21. > :50:25.going on right now, a spirit that many people

:50:26. > :50:28.have told me they've We're going to have a very,

:50:29. > :50:33.very elegant day. The 20th is going to be something

:50:34. > :50:36.that will be And I think we're going

:50:37. > :50:41.to have massive crowds # Clap along if you feel

:50:42. > :50:47.like a room without a roof # Clap along if you feel that

:50:48. > :50:54.happiness is the truth.#