:00:08. > :00:14.Tonight on This Week's Deal Or No Deal...
:00:15. > :00:18.Quentin Letts wonders, can Theresa May pull off a clean Brexit?
:00:19. > :00:23.There, that should add some much-needed clarity.
:00:24. > :00:24.President-elect Donald Trump likes a deal.
:00:25. > :00:26.Distinguished statesman Radoslaw Sikorski thinks
:00:27. > :00:32.the new world order may throw up a few unwelcome surprises.
:00:33. > :00:37.If you want trade wars, Donald Trump, it's no deal.
:00:38. > :00:40.And everyone used to respect the headmaster and top notch
:00:41. > :00:51.I've lost all respect being on this programme.
:00:52. > :01:01.Who will take the megabucks home tonight?
:01:02. > :01:09.In fact, we're best friends, and we must never do
:01:10. > :01:12.anything to upset our long, special friendship.
:01:13. > :01:15.So, as our friend, you will give us everything we ask for,
:01:16. > :01:20.You will give us full and open access to your front room
:01:21. > :01:23.for the next 45 minutes even though we accept no obligation to provide
:01:24. > :01:28.television which informs, educates or entertains.
:01:29. > :01:31.And we reserve the right to rat on you and do
:01:32. > :01:36.As friends, you will of course accept this.
:01:37. > :01:39.Because if you don't, and I say this as a friend,
:01:40. > :01:49.Maggie had Ronnie, Tony had George, Dave had Barack, Michael here has
:01:50. > :01:56.One faces the daunting task of turning a vague,
:01:57. > :02:00.populist fantasy into reality without the world crashing in.
:02:01. > :02:04.The other is the new President of the United States.
:02:05. > :02:06.Tomorrow night he will sit in the Oval Office,
:02:07. > :02:09.changing the nuclear codes to match his Twitter password.
:02:10. > :02:14.And what could possibly go wrong when he leans over to tweet
:02:15. > :02:20.He's promised to do everything he can to create work for people
:02:21. > :02:23.who for too long have been stuck at home with nothing to do,
:02:24. > :02:25.starting with our very own Michael Gove who says
:02:26. > :02:31.Speaking of friends, we're joined tonight by two
:02:32. > :02:33.unemployables unlikely even to benefit from Mr Trump's
:02:34. > :02:37.vow to be the greatest job-creating President ever.
:02:38. > :02:40.I speak, of course, of the main reasons this country is rushing
:02:41. > :03:02.Your moment of the week. You said that Theresa May has Donald Trump
:03:03. > :03:06.but I would question that. My moment was when Donald Trump gave an
:03:07. > :03:10.interview to Michael Gove. You will remember that Theresa May has not
:03:11. > :03:17.met the President-elect, Nigel Farage has met him three times. He
:03:18. > :03:22.has suggested Nigel Farage should be our ambassador. So now he selects
:03:23. > :03:27.Michael Gove, who was in favour of Brexit, who fell out with Boris
:03:28. > :03:32.Johnson. When Boris Johnson was in New York, he did not see Mr Trump.
:03:33. > :03:35.So it looked like he chose a Brexiteer who had been rejected from
:03:36. > :03:40.the government, who had had a big row with Boris Johnson. I think he
:03:41. > :03:44.is trying to tell Theresa May something and if I were her, I would
:03:45. > :03:47.get on with finding someone to be ambassador who has been recruited
:03:48. > :03:52.from outside the Foreign Office and has said nothing unpleasant about
:03:53. > :03:59.Donald Trump in the past. Maybe they will start looking. Your moment?
:04:00. > :04:05.Mine is Donald Trump related. It is the list of the inauguration line-up
:04:06. > :04:11.of acts. It is as if Theresa May had Chas and Dave playing at Number Ten.
:04:12. > :04:20.It is hilarious and woeful. Except that I was in the states when
:04:21. > :04:31.Hillary Clinton had Beyonce and Bon Jovi and Jay Z. All the greatest
:04:32. > :04:40.stars in the right of states, and she lost. I recognise that, I just
:04:41. > :04:44.find a list... And why attack Chas and Dave? They won our Christmas
:04:45. > :04:48.special. We had to give them sandwiches. That is how difficult it
:04:49. > :04:49.was to get them. You give them the moment of the week and they slack
:04:50. > :04:53.you off. Now, the World Economic Forum
:04:54. > :04:55.is hosting its 30th It's a low key affair with fun
:04:56. > :04:59.for the whole family. When they get bored of rubbing
:05:00. > :05:01.shoulders with the likes of Shakira and Matt Damon,
:05:02. > :05:04.heads of state and assorted fat cats can enjoy a refugee simulator
:05:05. > :05:06.in which they crawl on all fours Though I guess
:05:07. > :05:10.President Assad will be Anyways, for the few
:05:11. > :05:13.of you who don't have half a million pounds to throw
:05:14. > :05:15.at a weekend in Switzerland, here's Poland's former foreign
:05:16. > :05:17.minister Radislaw Sikorski Free trade has opened up
:05:18. > :05:39.Europe and the world. But we now have a US President
:05:40. > :05:42.who has promised his supporters to alleviate
:05:43. > :05:49.the downside of globalisation. Mr Trump has said many
:05:50. > :05:51.contradictory things during the US election campaign,
:05:52. > :05:54.but on one thing he has been consistent, his
:05:55. > :06:00.suspicion of free trade. But, at Davos this week,
:06:01. > :06:03.the President of China has said that to cut off flows of people,
:06:04. > :06:06.goods and capital between the economies,
:06:07. > :06:12.is like diverting rivers into lakes. Meanwhile, Britain is leaving
:06:13. > :06:15.the European Union partly on the hope of a quick,
:06:16. > :06:17.free trade deal with But if you thought that the row over
:06:18. > :06:24.bent bananas was ludicrous, wait for the row over
:06:25. > :06:32.US chlorine-soaked chicken. Unless agriculture is excluded
:06:33. > :06:35.from such a free trade deal, British farmers will have to compete
:06:36. > :06:37.with Texan farmers and Prime Minister Theresa May made
:06:38. > :06:46.a speech at Lancaster House this week which was positive in tone
:06:47. > :06:50.but in substance it sketched out The reality is that Britain cannot
:06:51. > :07:00.negotiate a free trade deal with the United States
:07:01. > :07:03.while still remaining a member of the European Union
:07:04. > :07:06.and Britain is not yet a member Protectionism usually
:07:07. > :07:16.provokes a reaction. If President Trump acts on some
:07:17. > :07:17.of his pronouncements, We have seen that movie
:07:18. > :07:50.before in the 1930s. Michael, are we heading for a trade
:07:51. > :07:54.war under Donald Trump? I don't know, but there was a tell-tale
:07:55. > :07:59.phrase in your report which was that we cannot have a free-trade deal
:08:00. > :08:05.while members of the European Union. Quite right, because the European
:08:06. > :08:09.Union is a protectionist block. It it wrecked barriers against the
:08:10. > :08:14.outside world. The only people who are clearly in favour of global free
:08:15. > :08:19.trade are the British. I will let you come back and then I will go to
:08:20. > :08:24.Jess. The external tariff of the European Union is approximately 3%.
:08:25. > :08:29.President Trump is talking about a tariff of 35%, which would actually
:08:30. > :08:37.be illegal under the existing treaties. The European external
:08:38. > :08:41.tariff on dairy products, on 54 different dairy products is 75%.
:08:42. > :08:47.Agriculture is protected everywhere which is wide that Doha round failed
:08:48. > :08:51.and it will be difficult to negotiate the deal with the United
:08:52. > :08:55.States. You cannot simultaneously argue on the one hand that the
:08:56. > :09:01.external tariff of the European Union is very very low and also to
:09:02. > :09:05.say that it would be a calamity if Britain finds itself facing this
:09:06. > :09:09.external tariff. It is either very low, or it isn't. If it is very low,
:09:10. > :09:16.it doesn't matter whether Britain faces this low tariff or not. I
:09:17. > :09:22.think that Britain is embarking on an interesting experiment. That is
:09:23. > :09:28.understatement. If it works, we will all be following you. Do you feel we
:09:29. > :09:33.are heading for a trade war? It is difficult to say but I don't think
:09:34. > :09:37.that Donald Trump... His whole platform that he stood on during the
:09:38. > :09:41.election was a 0-sum game where all trade deals were bad for America at
:09:42. > :09:47.the moment and the only thing he is going to look for his good things
:09:48. > :09:51.for American trade. That is what a President would do, a British Prime
:09:52. > :09:56.Minister would say the same. Every country wants a decent trade deal
:09:57. > :10:01.for themselves. That is why you have negotiations. He was suggesting
:10:02. > :10:04.every trade deal is currently bad for the US so he would renegotiate
:10:05. > :10:11.everything. That is totally unrealistic. Did you tell me the
:10:12. > :10:15.President of China has been in Davos arguing for free trade, the
:10:16. > :10:17.President of China whose country has systematically manipulated its
:10:18. > :10:24.currency to have an unfair advantage in trade? China daily today
:10:25. > :10:28.described the President of China as the general secretary now of
:10:29. > :10:34.globalisation and free trade. Do we need lectures from the Chinese on
:10:35. > :10:39.this? Since they joined the WTO in 2001 they have consistently broken
:10:40. > :10:44.its rules on protectionism. As I understand, they are now trying to
:10:45. > :10:47.prop up the currency, and certainly hundreds of millions of people in
:10:48. > :10:53.China have benefited from global trade, just as Mexico has, and
:10:54. > :10:58.thereby the migration from Mexico to the United States has dropped. Lots
:10:59. > :11:03.of blue-collar workers, and this partly explains Brexit and Mr Trump,
:11:04. > :11:08.because of the huge ramping up of Chinese productive capacity and then
:11:09. > :11:12.in many cases the dumping of the low cost of products, including steel,
:11:13. > :11:17.has cost many blue-collar workers in Europe and America their jobs.
:11:18. > :11:23.Economists arguing to what extent it is trade and to what extent
:11:24. > :11:27.automation. There is one free-trade deal that Mr Trump things would be
:11:28. > :11:34.good and that is with Britain. If America was to offer Britain a
:11:35. > :11:38.free-trade deal, why would we not do it? Already, he said we were at the
:11:39. > :11:44.front of the queue and then, isn't it Mexico and Canada have jumped the
:11:45. > :11:47.queue now? He has free-trade deals with them already and does not like
:11:48. > :11:54.them. Why wouldn't we do a free-trade deal with America?
:11:55. > :11:58.Hitherto, for the last few decades, Britain was negotiating with the
:11:59. > :12:03.negotiating strength of the largest economy on earth, the European
:12:04. > :12:07.Union. Now you will be negotiating with two giants, the United States
:12:08. > :12:11.and the European Union. I am not sure you're negotiating position
:12:12. > :12:15.will be stronger. But if Australia can do a free-trade deal with
:12:16. > :12:21.America to its advantage, why couldn't we? The mutual recognition
:12:22. > :12:26.of standards, which is being proposed, is going to be
:12:27. > :12:32.controversial. Do you really want GM ohs, do you really want... You think
:12:33. > :12:37.our economic future should be determined by whether we can buy
:12:38. > :12:43.chlorinated chicken? I think the dispute over Bent bananas will be a
:12:44. > :12:46.small thing by comparison. One of the releases I'm looking forward to
:12:47. > :12:52.is being released from this nonsense about genetically modified food
:12:53. > :12:58.products. You are all for them? I certainly am. Is the EU is so weak
:12:59. > :13:03.it is to give Britain a punishment beating to stop others rushing to
:13:04. > :13:08.the door? We will wait and see. It is difficult to say at the moment.
:13:09. > :13:12.Theresa May has played a strong hand this week and made it seem, only in
:13:13. > :13:17.the UK, not in Europe, that we have real strength and we will give you,
:13:18. > :13:23.if you give us a beating we will be really tough. But it is still just
:13:24. > :13:27.all, clouds that mean nothing, that evaporate when you touch them. I
:13:28. > :13:30.don't feel they are weak and we are strong.
:13:31. > :13:39.Is the threat to walk away which Mrs May said in her speech on Tuesday,
:13:40. > :13:43.that no deal is better than a bad deal? Yes. We have touched upon the
:13:44. > :13:48.external tariff of the European Union. In the moments after the June
:13:49. > :13:54.23rd vote, sterling fell against the euro by about 10%. We are talking
:13:55. > :13:59.about external tariffs of 3 and 4% so we already have a bigger
:14:00. > :14:03.advantage than the external tariff. She's played it cleverly because she
:14:04. > :14:07.said we are leaving the single market, we'll probably not be in the
:14:08. > :14:10.customs union either. A decision is required by the European Union at
:14:11. > :14:13.that point, whether to impose tariffs on their goods coming to us
:14:14. > :14:20.and ours going to them. I think it's going to be quite a difficult
:14:21. > :14:24.political sell for Poland and certainly Germany and France. Why?
:14:25. > :14:27.To tell people, we are going to destroy your jobs by making it more
:14:28. > :14:31.difficult for you to export cars to the UK, more difficult to export...
:14:32. > :14:35.No, they are just going to say, we are going to take, you know, the car
:14:36. > :14:39.manufacturing that currently exists where I live and put it in Poland,
:14:40. > :14:44.make Poland great again. So where are the car plants going to come
:14:45. > :14:51.from? They'll... They are going to move Jaguar to Poland? Definitely
:14:52. > :14:55.not. I'm not Len McCluskey. But why wouldn't they buy their car parts
:14:56. > :14:58.and bits and pieces where they don't have to take their lorries through
:14:59. > :15:02.borders, they don't have to have red tape? It's like the Conservatives
:15:03. > :15:07.are arguing for red tape which is so weird. No, no, what I'm saying is
:15:08. > :15:11.that the European Union has to take a deliberate policy of retribution
:15:12. > :15:14.against... No, the European Union doesn't need to do anything. Britain
:15:15. > :15:20.will put itself outside of the customs area. That means the
:15:21. > :15:23.external tariff will apply without the EU doing anything. You are
:15:24. > :15:29.resigning from the club and you will be treated as a member of the
:15:30. > :15:38.public. But my favourite threat is, if the EU doesn't do what we say,
:15:39. > :15:42.we'll lower corporation tax. Guess what, corporation tax in Ireland,
:15:43. > :15:45.Cyprus, is 12.5%, in Hungary it's 9%. You can lower your corporation
:15:46. > :15:52.tax without leaving the European Union. Indeed. Though the commission
:15:53. > :15:56.hates it when you do it. OK. The Irish have been lent on to raise it.
:15:57. > :16:01.There are increasing protectionist forces in Europe. We'll see that in
:16:02. > :16:05.the elections in Holland, France and in Austria, perhaps also in Italy as
:16:06. > :16:11.well. So why shouldn't the UK strike out to the rest of the world to do
:16:12. > :16:19.deals if Europe is becoming more protectionist? It's illegal to
:16:20. > :16:22.become protectionist inside the European Union. What you mean by
:16:23. > :16:32.that is that there are stronger pressures to limit the free movement
:16:33. > :16:37.of people. But... But also they can do trade deals. We have done one
:16:38. > :16:46.with Canada but it takes a long time to do them. Ukraine is similar to
:16:47. > :16:50.what Britain will eventually want, a sector by sector compromise. That
:16:51. > :16:55.took seven years. It's a complicated thing to do. Two years to implement.
:16:56. > :17:05.It's difficult. But there is one more area where I think people in
:17:06. > :17:08.Britain need to be clear about, name under existing rules, EU citizens
:17:09. > :17:12.can only reside in other member states like Britain for three
:17:13. > :17:16.months. After three months, if they are a burden on the public
:17:17. > :17:22.Exchequer, you can actually move people out. You and I both know
:17:23. > :17:29.that's not going to happen. But you could have acted on it. Hold on, Mrs
:17:30. > :17:35.May offered Mrs Merkel a deal to take EU citizens in this country a
:17:36. > :17:39.UK... You are talking at crossed purposes. If he's saying if people
:17:40. > :17:44.are already on the public purse you can move them out. May I make a
:17:45. > :17:48.broad point on freedom of movement of people. It's alleged this is
:17:49. > :17:51.fundamental of the creation of the single market. Of course it isn't.
:17:52. > :17:54.You could have a single market without the free movement of people.
:17:55. > :17:57.The reason there is the free movement of people in the European
:17:58. > :18:00.Union is the same reason there is a Single Currency because these are
:18:01. > :18:03.attributes of a single nation state because it's the aspiration of the
:18:04. > :18:07.European Union to become a single nation state. That is our
:18:08. > :18:12.fundamental problem with the whole thing. In the words of a British
:18:13. > :18:16.Prime Minister, "not a super state but a super power". We are going to
:18:17. > :18:18.leave it there. We have overran because it's an interesting
:18:19. > :18:20.discussion. Thank you for being with us.
:18:21. > :18:22.Now it's late, change the White House wifi password late,
:18:23. > :18:25.as President Obama hides fake spiders and stink bombs
:18:26. > :18:31.But we're on the edge of our seat for Trump's inaugural shindig.
:18:32. > :18:34.Poor Donald has had a rough old time booking performers for the party,
:18:35. > :18:36.disrespected by the jealous losers of Hollywood.
:18:37. > :18:39.Dry your tears Mr President-elect because, waiting in the wings
:18:40. > :18:43.to straighten up the bullies, is headmaster and historian
:18:44. > :18:46.Anthony Seldon, putting respect in our spotlight.
:18:47. > :18:50.There will be strictly no mobile phones allowed in class,
:18:51. > :18:54.not to mention Facebanter, Twitteasing, Snapchithcat or we'll
:18:55. > :19:01.Now, our friends at London's top museums have been in touch,
:19:02. > :19:04.asking Labour MPs to please stop sending over their CVs for every job
:19:05. > :19:11.John McDonnell's application for the Bank of England Museum
:19:12. > :19:15.job has been rejected - I think we can work out why.
:19:16. > :19:18.But we can't fathom why our very own Jess Phillips has been turned
:19:19. > :19:21.down as curator of the Civil War Museum.
:19:22. > :19:24.But the National Maritime Museum is keen to interview any Labour MP
:19:25. > :19:28.looking for a new start in life since they all have plenty
:19:29. > :19:34.Here with a career change of his own, Quentin Letts
:19:35. > :19:43.with the political round up of the week.
:19:44. > :19:54.Well, they said they wanted a clean Brexit.
:19:55. > :20:00.# I'll polish the leaves, make them green again
:20:01. > :20:03.# Shake out the trees, change the scene again
:20:04. > :20:07.# Spring cleaning, getting ready for love.#
:20:08. > :20:15.Still, they were very clear, they wanted a clean Brexit.
:20:16. > :20:29.Both sides in the referendum campaign made it clear that a vote
:20:30. > :20:32.to leave the EU would be a vote to leave the single market.
:20:33. > :20:35.So we do not seek membership of the single market.
:20:36. > :20:39.Instead, we seek the greatest possible access to it.
:20:40. > :20:43.I can confirm today that the government will put
:20:44. > :20:49.the final deal that is agreed between the UK and the EU to a vote
:20:50. > :20:53.The business community welcomed the clarity from the PM.
:20:54. > :21:01.And some bloke called Boris Johnson was tweeting videos about it.
:21:02. > :21:06.I've just been listening to Theresa May's fantastic speech
:21:07. > :21:10.about global Britain and about how we're going to take back control
:21:11. > :21:13.of our borders and loads of money that we currently send to the EU.
:21:14. > :21:16.But also, of course, come out of the EU's legal system,
:21:17. > :21:20.the single market, but not leave Europe.
:21:21. > :21:25.Also cheering was a vindicated Nigel Farage.
:21:26. > :21:29.Best not to mention that it leaves his party
:21:30. > :21:38.We are leaving the single market, even if Nick Clegg is crying
:21:39. > :21:49.But not everyone was so gracious in hard Brexit.
:21:50. > :21:51.Oh, there's Mr Clegg, off to drown his sorrows and stockpile
:21:52. > :22:02.What she's done is taken the views of 51.9% of the people who voted
:22:03. > :22:05.to leave the European Union last June and assume they all meant
:22:06. > :22:08.the same as Nigel Farage, and assume they wanted an extreme
:22:09. > :22:10.Brexit that was not on the ballot paper.
:22:11. > :22:24.Jeremy Corbyn went on Brexit at PMQs, the Labour leader railing
:22:25. > :22:27.against the idea of a bargain Brexit.
:22:28. > :23:06."She has said that leave the single market, but at the same time says
:23:07. > :23:09.she wants to have access to the single market.
:23:10. > :23:12.I'm not quite sure how that's going to go down in Europe.
:23:13. > :23:17.I think we have to have a deal that ensures we have
:23:18. > :23:38.Oh, well, someone had to make up the numbers, I suppose.
:23:39. > :23:44.Oh, dear, it looks like they preloaded.
:23:45. > :23:48.I hope they don't do anything embarrassing when they meet
:23:49. > :23:53.# Cos you and I have a rendezvous under the sky
:23:54. > :24:01.# Spring cleaning, getting ready for love.#
:24:02. > :24:04.Michael Gove met Donald Trump in New York this week and the former
:24:05. > :24:07.Justice Secretary just about maintained his composure,
:24:08. > :24:11.and Mr Trump congratulated Mr Gove on Brexit.
:24:12. > :24:18.Some of these books have got pages missing.
:24:19. > :24:22.I thought the UK was so smart in getting out.
:24:23. > :24:24.And you were there, and you guys wrote it,
:24:25. > :24:35.If they hadn't been forced to take in all of the refugees, so many,
:24:36. > :24:38.with all the problems that entails, I think that you wouldn't
:24:39. > :24:48.The refugees issue has damaged Angela Merkel and threatens
:24:49. > :24:55.Mutti Merkel was her normal, cheerful self.
:24:56. > :24:58.TRANSLATION: There can be no cherrypicking during negotiations
:24:59. > :25:05.Otherwise we might end up with some who might find it more attractive
:25:06. > :25:12.For the SNP, hard Brexit is another chance to call for independence.
:25:13. > :25:23.Do we want to be taken down a path that we didn't vote
:25:24. > :25:27.for and is against all of our interests, or do we want to take
:25:28. > :25:31.And that is a choice that I think Scotland has the right to make.
:25:32. > :25:38.Could hard Brexit mean a hard border with the Republic?
:25:39. > :25:56.Maybe see what this lot have been watching on telly.
:25:57. > :25:59.There's a nice Andrew Neil programme later on in the evening
:26:00. > :26:02.where he invites people on a very tight sofa, as I recall.
:26:03. > :26:07.It was a good programme and Andrew Neil held the chair well.
:26:08. > :26:33.Disconcerting that the chairman of the BBC speaks about us in the past
:26:34. > :26:35.tense! Thanks to Samir and Belkis
:26:36. > :26:38.at Juniper TV for allowing us to employ the services of a somewhat
:26:39. > :26:47.second rate cleaner. SNP superstar John Nicholson,
:26:48. > :26:52.welcome back to our programme. Thank you, Andrew. The consensus is that
:26:53. > :26:57.Theresa May had a good week this week, is that right? Yes. In fact, I
:26:58. > :27:00.think the speech was largely statements of the obvious and these
:27:01. > :27:08.things could have been deduced some time ago. But she had been so silent
:27:09. > :27:11.on the question and had given an impression of being indecisive. So
:27:12. > :27:15.when she said these things categorically, and I must say
:27:16. > :27:22.neatly, she said them well. There was a terrific reaction to it. Jess?
:27:23. > :27:25.I think it was clear. I agree entirely with Michael, it was a
:27:26. > :27:29.statement of the bleeding obvious. But for her to say that we wouldn't
:27:30. > :27:32.be members of the single market, although you could deduce that from
:27:33. > :27:40.other things that were said, for her to say it though to get it on the
:27:41. > :27:44.record, it was quite a step forward? Not a step backwards, well depending
:27:45. > :27:49.on your opinion. She did two bold things. Before Christmas we had the
:27:50. > :27:52.vote on the principle of the triggering of article 50 which she
:27:53. > :27:57.won with a tremendous majority. Now this bold speech has gone well. So I
:27:58. > :28:01.hope she's encouraged to carry on being bold. What do you think? A
:28:02. > :28:06.Labour MP told me she was in tears listening to the speech because she
:28:07. > :28:13.thought to herself, this means the end of the union. Does it? Well, I
:28:14. > :28:17.thought it was disrespectful for Theresa May to give the speech in
:28:18. > :28:28.the way she did because she'd said very clearly that Scotland's voice
:28:29. > :28:32.had to be heard. The Joint Committee was due to meet after the speech.
:28:33. > :28:35.The Scottish Parliament put forward its proposals and Mrs May said
:28:36. > :28:40.repeatedly, we'll listen to Scotland's point of view, it's an
:28:41. > :28:43.equal partner, then she announces very dramatically the future of
:28:44. > :28:50.Scotland in Europe without actually talking to the Scottish ministers at
:28:51. > :28:56.all. I'm surpriseth rised she didn't go through the motions. --
:28:57. > :29:01.surprised. Is it clear Labour doesn't have a Brexit strategy?
:29:02. > :29:10.Clear in the same sentence, it's fair to say it's not all that clear.
:29:11. > :29:15.But it's incredibly difficult is the honest answer. The honest truth is
:29:16. > :29:20.that there are swathes of Labour seats that voted for Brexit, yet two
:29:21. > :29:25.thirds of Labour voters apparently, however they deduce these things
:29:26. > :29:30.from the polls, voted to remain. Then there are huge areas of Labour
:29:31. > :29:37.vote where people are not just rep Remain, but vehemently Remain. So
:29:38. > :29:41.there is, I get it both barrels from all angles regardless of people's
:29:42. > :29:46.opinion so I could sit here all day and say it should have been clearer,
:29:47. > :29:51.but it's incredibly difficult. Incredibly complex. One of my
:29:52. > :29:58.abiding memories as an MP is being in the lobby and watching Labour MPs
:29:59. > :30:02.berating Gisela Stuart in the aftermath of the referendum result
:30:03. > :30:04.with a rage that I have never seen in Parliament since I came to
:30:05. > :30:15.Parliament. They have changed their choosing. On
:30:16. > :30:21.this so far, they say, we respect the decision of the British people.
:30:22. > :30:28.And it is going to be a three line whip. Votes on austerity do not get
:30:29. > :30:31.that, but this does. I read the headline, and then when I read it,
:30:32. > :30:37.Jeremy Corbyn had just said, we will ask them. I had people getting in
:30:38. > :30:41.touch saying, I am leaving the Labour Party. Assuming after the
:30:42. > :30:46.Supreme Court ruling that we seem to think the judges will uphold the
:30:47. > :30:52.High Court ruling, if that is the case, the SNP will vote against
:30:53. > :30:56.triggering Article 50, right? We have not met to decide that but it
:30:57. > :30:59.is my assumption that we would because Scotland voted to stay, so I
:31:00. > :31:05.think we should reflect the wishes of our electorate. Given that,
:31:06. > :31:09.particularly if there is a three line whip, it gets through
:31:10. > :31:15.Parliament, doesn't it? Of course, under those circumstances. So I
:31:16. > :31:21.would hope and ask that as many MPs as possible from the Labour Party
:31:22. > :31:26.develop a backbone over this. You said you will represent your
:31:27. > :31:34.electorate. 67% of my constituents voted to leave. So... Does Ukip have
:31:35. > :31:39.a future? If Mrs May is seen to be the hard Brexit, what is the point
:31:40. > :31:45.of Ukip? Ukip's best hope was that by the time of the next election
:31:46. > :31:49.this would still be up in the air. The decision by the British people
:31:50. > :31:53.which had not been delivered. It is still possible to imagine
:31:54. > :31:58.circumstances in which that might happen, but clearly, Mrs May has
:31:59. > :32:03.smelt the danger, sensed the danger, and made a move which makes life
:32:04. > :32:07.very difficult for Ukip. At the moment, I would say the combination
:32:08. > :32:10.of the new leader and the fact that wrecks it appears to be proceeding
:32:11. > :32:20.apace makes the outlook for Ukip poor. -- Brexit. The Scottish First
:32:21. > :32:24.Minister has ruled out a referendum for this year. Is it your view that
:32:25. > :32:30.if there is to be a second referendum, does it have to come
:32:31. > :32:37.before the UK believes the EU? Does it have to come in the window
:32:38. > :32:40.between the beginning of 2018, and probably March 2019? If there is
:32:41. > :32:45.going to be a second one, is that when it has to be? I don't get a
:32:46. > :32:49.sense that people have an understanding of what Brexit means
:32:50. > :32:56.for them. They have found so far that there laptop has gone up in
:32:57. > :33:01.price. We have not got too much time, I just want to know if that is
:33:02. > :33:07.the window. We need to see what the deal is on the table. When will the
:33:08. > :33:12.third referendum be? Presumably you will hold them continuously until
:33:13. > :33:15.you get the right answer. I always took the view that on balance the
:33:16. > :33:22.first referendum would be lost. I think the second will be one. I
:33:23. > :33:26.remember that the SNP ran on a manifesto last year that said if
:33:27. > :33:31.there is a material change in circumstance, we reserve the right
:33:32. > :33:35.to hold a second referendum. Clearly, being put out of the EU is
:33:36. > :33:42.a material change. So when is the third one? We do not even know when
:33:43. > :33:49.the second one is. Let me come onto the inauguration, the global story.
:33:50. > :33:53.Let me point out something that could never have been said before.
:33:54. > :33:58.There is now a Eurosceptic moving into the Oval Office. There is now
:33:59. > :34:04.somebody who backs Brexit moving into the Oval Office, someone who
:34:05. > :34:10.has no interest in EU integration, indeed, I think would not mind if it
:34:11. > :34:15.unravelled. It totally changes state Department policy for the past 50
:34:16. > :34:20.is. This is a watershed in Britain and Europe's relationship with the
:34:21. > :34:24.United States. Yes, assuming he can carry that through the ranks of the
:34:25. > :34:28.State Department, absolutely. I found it so frustrating as Defence
:34:29. > :34:34.Secretary watching the efforts of the French to ease the Americans out
:34:35. > :34:39.of Europe, to create a European defence identity to supplant Nato,
:34:40. > :34:43.although extremely ineffectively. I was frustrated that the Americans
:34:44. > :34:47.could not see the danger posed to our joint security by the
:34:48. > :34:52.arrangements that were, that the European Union as spy at to make. I
:34:53. > :34:58.am pleased now to have a more realistic President. It is quite a
:34:59. > :35:05.watershed. That is the first time I have heard the words "Realistic" and
:35:06. > :35:13."Trump" in the same sentence. It is an enormous change. I mean for
:35:14. > :35:16.Britain, to have a Eurosceptic, pro-Brexit, that would never have
:35:17. > :35:23.happened under any other President. It is an enormous turnaround. We
:35:24. > :35:27.have not had the opportunity to decide what is the difference
:35:28. > :35:32.between his rhetoric and the reality. How will he perform as a
:35:33. > :35:35.President? It was interesting when Michael Gove asked him whether
:35:36. > :35:41.Britain was at the front of the queue and was desperate to get that
:35:42. > :35:49.answer. His answer was, you are doing great. What does that mean?
:35:50. > :35:53.Final thoughts. All over Europe, Theresa May is being pictured next
:35:54. > :35:58.to Donald Trump in cartoons as if they are in it together and a lack
:35:59. > :36:04.of global vision, tiny minded, small island... I thought Mrs May's speech
:36:05. > :36:11.to Davos yesterday and on Tuesday morning was all about going into the
:36:12. > :36:18.world, global vision. Just because she is saying, I like the world...
:36:19. > :36:24.There are 12 countries Liam Fox is talking to about free trade. Why is
:36:25. > :36:30.that not going into the world? Because it is meaningless while we
:36:31. > :36:34.do not know what we will end up with with the European Union. Donald
:36:35. > :36:38.Trump, I suppose, has come at a good time, while we are looking for
:36:39. > :36:43.people who also do not like Europe to hang out with. We can hang out
:36:44. > :36:47.with him. I think that Jess is labouring under the illusion that
:36:48. > :36:51.the European Union is a free trade organisation. It is a protectionist
:36:52. > :36:52.organisation. We have come full circle and I will move on. Thank
:36:53. > :36:55.you. Now, I have to interrupt
:36:56. > :36:58.proceedings to issue an apology With the greatest respect,
:36:59. > :37:01.we no longer want full membership of your exclusive nightclub,
:37:02. > :37:04.just the greatest possible access. Michael just doesn't
:37:05. > :37:06.understand why you won't give And why can't Jess hear a British
:37:07. > :37:10.accent when she's in the courtyard I hope you're sensible enough
:37:11. > :37:14.to allow us free entry whenever we feel like it and without regard
:37:15. > :37:16.to club rules. But if you're going to be
:37:17. > :37:18.unreasonable, well, we'll respectfully have
:37:19. > :37:20.to open our own club where we'll sell bootleg Blue Nun and bargain
:37:21. > :37:22.basement Mini Cheddars Prime Minister Theresa May was full
:37:23. > :37:43.of respect for her European friends when outlining her divorce
:37:44. > :37:44.terms on Monday. I respect the position taken
:37:45. > :37:46.by European leaders. We not only respect that
:37:47. > :37:56.fact, but support it. Boris Johnson appeared to compare
:37:57. > :37:58.Anglo-French relations to life Has he lost the esteem
:37:59. > :38:05.of his parliamentary It is amazing, isn't it,
:38:06. > :38:08.that this guy is in charge of the Foreign Office,
:38:09. > :38:10.our great Foreign Office? He doesn't seem to be learning any
:38:11. > :38:13.of the lessons of diplomacy. Should this man really be at the top
:38:14. > :38:16.of our foreign relations? Any senior politician,
:38:17. > :38:19.just don't mention the war. Meanwhile, Barack Obama
:38:20. > :38:25.was keen to show his respect for the White House press pack,
:38:26. > :38:28.a week after his successor I want to thank you all
:38:29. > :38:33.for your extraordinary service to our democracy,
:38:34. > :38:35.and with that, I will In Davos, Xi Jinping,
:38:36. > :38:46.Communist China's authoritarian president, called on leaders
:38:47. > :38:49.of liberal democracies TRANSLATION: We must remain
:38:50. > :38:55.committed to developing free Public school don and historian
:38:56. > :39:02.Anthony Seldon knows all about character,
:39:03. > :39:22.so how important is respect And Anthony Seldon joins us now.
:39:23. > :39:28.Thank you for being with us. Is our respect for each other in general,
:39:29. > :39:33.is it in decline? It's very hard to say. We can say that it's a really
:39:34. > :39:40.important commodity in society, it's what makes a good or just society.
:39:41. > :39:42.If we don't have that sense of wanting to support each other,
:39:43. > :39:46.understand each other, if we are just going to be blanking each other
:39:47. > :39:51.out, denigrating each other, humiliating each other, then we
:39:52. > :39:55.don't have the basis for what, throughout history, has made good
:39:56. > :39:59.societies. And we should be teaching it in schools all the way through.
:40:00. > :40:07.We don't do enough of that in schools? We have a crazy school
:40:08. > :40:11.system. We focus just on exams, a single person, cramming their head
:40:12. > :40:15.with information, spitting it out, passive knowledge, regurgitating it
:40:16. > :40:19.in exams. This has nothing to do with preparing people for life, for
:40:20. > :40:25.life in society, for building good building blocks for our communities,
:40:26. > :40:30.has nothing to do with building families, nothing to do with even
:40:31. > :40:34.jobs, you know. Nobody in a job, as it struck anybody in government,
:40:35. > :40:39.sits on their own and answers essay questions. They work together,
:40:40. > :40:46.thinking. We need to develop entrepreneurship, active learning
:40:47. > :40:51.and decent values. Have we become a less respectful society? I'm not
:40:52. > :40:55.sure that we have. You hear statistics about elderly people
:40:56. > :40:59.being more lonely and people not to visiting their grandparents any more
:41:00. > :41:02.and things like that. I can't say I notice on the street that young
:41:03. > :41:08.people are disrespecting any more than... Obviously, I am a bit
:41:09. > :41:15.younger than the other people here, so maybe it's not in my lifetime
:41:16. > :41:19.that it's gone downhill. Obviously, you are only marginally older. I am
:41:20. > :41:24.surprised Anthony launched that critique of education with all the
:41:25. > :41:28.focus on exams. One of the things that characterises education is
:41:29. > :41:32.respect for teachers. That is an enormous driver, one of the triptych
:41:33. > :41:37.things that comes out of education. If teachers do not hold the respect
:41:38. > :41:41.of their pupils, you have a problem. I assume that at the schools where
:41:42. > :41:45.you were headmaster, respect was substantial. I am still in touch
:41:46. > :41:52.with my headmaster. Imagine how old he is, given how old you think I am.
:41:53. > :41:57.Good old Harrow County, which has helped to make you what you are. We
:41:58. > :42:03.are affected by the family, the groups around us. Schools and exams
:42:04. > :42:06.are important. The problem is we thought exams and Ofsted report 's
:42:07. > :42:15.were all that matters in schools. Actually, it is about building... I
:42:16. > :42:18.think the referendum showed that people still respect Parliament.
:42:19. > :42:22.British people thought, here is something that we value, we think
:42:23. > :42:28.should be put in the prime position. We understand it. The British people
:42:29. > :42:32.are good at changing Parliament. We go from massive Labour majorities to
:42:33. > :42:36.annihilating the Labour Party. We support the Liberal Democrats, then
:42:37. > :42:40.we annihilate them. The British people have control of it, and
:42:41. > :42:47.therefore they respect it. This is certainly true. Such a narrow
:42:48. > :42:51.margin, 48-52. I was for Remainer, but we lost, and let's make the most
:42:52. > :42:59.of it. That is what the vast majority have accepted. There is
:43:00. > :43:04.great respect for parliamentarians. Is there? Is it healthy that we seem
:43:05. > :43:08.to have lost respect for a lot of institutions? We should be critical.
:43:09. > :43:12.A lot of great education in schools is about teaching scepticism, not
:43:13. > :43:17.just to accept authority because it is authority. We are a democracy and
:43:18. > :43:23.we should be critical and form our own judgments. And you can show too
:43:24. > :43:27.much respect. In Davos this week, the Davos elite showed too much
:43:28. > :43:33.respect to the President of China, not raising the issues they should
:43:34. > :43:38.have done with him. We should always challenge people. People worthy of
:43:39. > :43:41.respect deserve our respect. We should not respect people who do not
:43:42. > :43:46.respect us, themselves or other people. I think respect is not an
:43:47. > :43:51.absolute, it is a qualified and it should be there, but it is able then
:43:52. > :43:57.block of society. What are the chances we will come to respect
:43:58. > :44:02.Donald Trump. None. I will never respect anyone like that. You have
:44:03. > :44:07.to respect the office, and the majority of Americans will continue
:44:08. > :44:13.to respect the office. He is head of state and of government. He has a
:44:14. > :44:17.chance, if he respect men and women, he will get there. I have two
:44:18. > :44:19.respect the schedule. We have run out of time.
:44:20. > :44:22.That's your lot for tonight folks, but not for us, we're off
:44:23. > :44:25.to LouLou's for Joe Biden's end of the world survivalist jamboree.
:44:26. > :44:27.Free nuclear bunkers and cyanide pills for everyone!
:44:28. > :44:29.Joe has put together the line-up of a lifetime -
:44:30. > :44:31.Beyonce, Adele, Elvis, Queen and even the Beatles
:44:32. > :44:36.But perhaps not quite as much as what's happening
:44:37. > :44:46.Nighty night, don't let the 45th President of the United States bite.
:44:47. > :44:55.And I don't care, frankly, if it's going to be beautiful
:44:56. > :45:01.I have a feeling it's going to be beautiful.
:45:02. > :45:04.Because what we've done is so special.
:45:05. > :45:07.All over the world they are talking about it.
:45:08. > :45:15.And we are going to make America great again.
:45:16. > :45:37.Thank you very much and enjoy the fireworks.
:45:38. > :45:41.That I will faithfully execute the Office...
:45:42. > :45:45.And will to the best of my ability...
:45:46. > :45:57.The Constitution of the United States...
:45:58. > :46:02.Why would James Delaney hate the India so?