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:00:00. > :00:10.Launch control, this is Houston, we are go for launch.

:00:11. > :00:14.There have been launches before, and relaunches.

:00:15. > :00:34.The clock is running. Houston, we have cleared the studio.

:00:35. > :00:40.But is Team May flying high, or high and dry?

:00:41. > :00:46.If only it was just about the blastoff.

:00:47. > :00:50.Then I take the controls and I steer it around for a nice soft

:00:51. > :01:06.Only a clean, hard Brexit will ensure all our safety.

:01:07. > :01:21.A disagreement? How about an awkward coalition to sort it out? Houston,

:01:22. > :01:23.we have a problem. I have been telling you so four-year is.

:01:24. > :01:25.The Apollo 13 spacecraft is apparently losing breathing oxygen.

:01:26. > :01:28.The emergency has ruled out any chance of a lunar landing.

:01:29. > :01:30.Strap yourselves in, take a good swig of rocket fuel.

:01:31. > :01:51.The PM said she did when she heard the exit poll on election night.

:01:52. > :01:54.I suspect there's a bit of British understatement in that.

:01:55. > :01:56.I wouldn't be surprised if she bawled her eyes out.

:01:57. > :01:59.After all, having gone from hero to zero in only one

:02:00. > :02:01.disastrous election campaign, that would be a pretty

:02:02. > :02:06.But perhaps even the Mark II version of the MayBot has yet to perfect

:02:07. > :02:13.I'm sure the Mark III version will gush like Niagara Falls.

:02:14. > :02:16.The Labour leader and his merry band of Corbynistas have been crying

:02:17. > :02:20.tears of joy since the exit poll, even though they lost.

:02:21. > :02:22.But politics is not really about the crying game.

:02:23. > :02:28.And we now live in a political culture in which one week

:02:29. > :02:31.you're cock of the walk, next week you're a feather duster.

:02:32. > :02:42.Mr Corbyn needs to find a way of provoking a snap election

:02:43. > :02:44.this side of Christmas, to capitalise on his

:02:45. > :02:49.If the May Government can stumble on into 2018,

:02:50. > :02:52.it's by no means clear who would then have

:02:53. > :02:59.Speaking of those whose stumbling from pillar to post would bring

:03:00. > :03:01.tears to a glass eye, I'm joined on the sofa

:03:02. > :03:03.tonight by two political has-beens whose careers have

:03:04. > :03:09.I speak, of course, of Ed #dancingqueen Balls

:03:10. > :03:24.Michael, your moment of the week. On the issue you touched upon as to

:03:25. > :03:28.whether there might be another general election in 2017, the

:03:29. > :03:33.Government learned this week, not to get 's a prize but it will have been

:03:34. > :03:37.a joke, that Labour will not be supporting the first stage known as

:03:38. > :03:42.the second reading of the withdrawal from the European Union Bill. There

:03:43. > :03:46.must be a question as to whether it will get the bill through that first

:03:47. > :03:50.stage, and almost no question that the bill will thereafter be

:03:51. > :03:54.massively amended. Since there is also no doubt that this bill is the

:03:55. > :03:58.flagship of the legislation of the Government, if it is not able to get

:03:59. > :04:02.through with that, it would be very close to having lost the confidence

:04:03. > :04:08.of the House of Commons. So I think that was an important moment. We

:04:09. > :04:13.will come back to that and discuss why you are wrong. Ed Balls, your

:04:14. > :04:16.moment of the week will stop the admission by Donald Trump Jr,

:04:17. > :04:22.through the e-mails he published, that he not only responded to a

:04:23. > :04:26.Russian inspired contact saying they had information which would damage

:04:27. > :04:30.Hillary Clinton, but also involved the campaign manager for Donald

:04:31. > :04:35.Trump and his brother-in-law in the meeting. It is hard to believe his

:04:36. > :04:41.klaxon was not sounding. If you were a politician, you would know. But

:04:42. > :04:43.that terrible combination of arrogance and naivete, arrogance to

:04:44. > :04:46.think you can do what you like and naivete not to see what an

:04:47. > :04:53.incredibly stupid thing it was to have a meeting... Amateur hour at

:04:54. > :04:56.Trump Tower. Who would have thought back in January that we would be

:04:57. > :05:01.having a real conversation today about who could go more quickly in

:05:02. > :05:06.the next 12 months, Theresa May or Donald Trump? I am not sure what the

:05:07. > :05:11.betting stakes are but I think it is quite tight. The e-mail he was

:05:12. > :05:15.bonded to said, this information we want to give you is part of the

:05:16. > :05:23.Russian government's support to get you elected. That was the real bit

:05:24. > :05:27.in neon sign that should have been a warning. The President says he was

:05:28. > :05:34.not involved, but his son involved his closest aide, Jared Kushner, and

:05:35. > :05:39.the campaign manager. It was unbelievably reckless and I think we

:05:40. > :05:42.may find out worse than that. We shall see. It has certainly been the

:05:43. > :05:44.first real development of substance in this story.

:05:45. > :05:47.Now, Labour peer Andrew Adonis has attacked the greed, as he puts it,

:05:48. > :05:49.of senior academics who pay themselves huge salaries.

:05:50. > :05:52.I don't think he appreciates the hard work and dedication

:05:53. > :05:54.of professors of media studies who chart, analyse, archive

:05:55. > :05:56.and chronicle every segment, every interview, every beautifully

:05:57. > :05:57.crafted monologue, every film of the state-of-the-art

:05:58. > :06:05.Courses are still available at Scunthorpe University

:06:06. > :06:08.for a tenner a week and all the curry you can eat.

:06:09. > :06:12.Speaking of beer, here's Nigel Farage, in a pub,

:06:13. > :06:41.Project Fear is back with a vengeance and it's

:06:42. > :06:52.MPs and Lords want to keep us shackled to the customs union

:06:53. > :07:01.and to the single market, a so-called soft Brexit.

:07:02. > :07:06.A soft Brexit will mean the bureaucrats governing us

:07:07. > :07:08.for generations to come, taking away our sovereignty

:07:09. > :07:12.Luckily, we have a Prime Minister who is committed

:07:13. > :07:25.Proper Brexit, liberation from the customs union

:07:26. > :07:34.Unluckily, the outcome of Mrs May's election gamble means that she now

:07:35. > :07:36.has Remoaners on her own backbenches who would like to prevent

:07:37. > :07:39.the will of the people, so she's had to turn

:07:40. > :07:47.Trouble is, although Corbyn is an old Bennite Leaver,

:07:48. > :07:50.the Shadow Brexit Secretary keeps talking about perhaps staying

:07:51. > :07:54.in the customs union and the single market,

:07:55. > :07:56.and most of the backbench is actually still strongly

:07:57. > :08:10.The point is, the public voted in a free and fair

:08:11. > :08:13.And I'll tell you something, if it's not delivered,

:08:14. > :08:19.Our politicians are going to make a pig's ear of their own reputations

:08:20. > :08:23.and we're going to get egg on our face on the global stage.

:08:24. > :08:36.And Nigel Farage has managed to stagger from

:08:37. > :08:39.the Westminster Arms to our arms in our Westminster studios.

:08:40. > :08:56.Thank you. Are you worried that the election result, how it came out,

:08:57. > :09:01.means that Brexit might not now happen? No, Brexit will happen, we

:09:02. > :09:05.will leave the European Union. The question is, will we leave in name

:09:06. > :09:10.only? Of course I am worried about Parliamentary arithmetic. I'm even

:09:11. > :09:16.more worried about the EU chief negotiator this week taking a very

:09:17. > :09:21.different line yesterday. And today, meeting Sturgeon, meeting Corbyn,

:09:22. > :09:25.clearly playing a game of divide and draw. But he did not say anything

:09:26. > :09:32.after the meetings. He didn't need to. He has to see them, surely. He

:09:33. > :09:36.has to see the Leader of the Opposition because if there is a

:09:37. > :09:41.snap election, Mr Corbyn will be heading the negotiations. I don't

:09:42. > :09:47.think he had to see any of them. It does no harm, really. The next time

:09:48. > :09:52.Mrs May or David Davis gets up and says, this is where the negotiations

:09:53. > :09:58.are, party leaders will say, he told us something different. Sophy Ridge

:09:59. > :10:05.has driven quite a wedge today in the Brexit negotiations. -- he has

:10:06. > :10:08.driven quite a wedge. The EU negotiations are getting tougher and

:10:09. > :10:12.harder but President Macron thinks he has a better chance pinching the

:10:13. > :10:16.City's business than taking it to Paris, whether that is realistic or

:10:17. > :10:19.not. Because the government is divided, Parliament is divided,

:10:20. > :10:23.there is a question about how you would get it through the House of

:10:24. > :10:28.Commons, through the House of Lords. With such division and weakness on

:10:29. > :10:33.the British side, why would the European Union give any concessions?

:10:34. > :10:38.And the economy is slowing. Living standards are being squeezed, the

:10:39. > :10:42.pound is weak. Brexit talks could soon be in crisis. Is there not a

:10:43. > :10:51.danger that public opinion could turn against Leave? At the moment,

:10:52. > :10:55.public opinion wants the job done. But the idea that people voted for a

:10:56. > :10:59.hard Brexit is just aren't true. Many people on the Leave campaign

:11:00. > :11:06.were saying they wanted to stay in the single market. No, they weren't,

:11:07. > :11:11.that is baloney. Who said that? I think there were people in the Leave

:11:12. > :11:15.campaign. Every player on both Remainer and leaves could not have

:11:16. > :11:20.been clearer that a vote to leave was a vote to leave the single

:11:21. > :11:26.market also. No one was in doubt about that. I don't think that is

:11:27. > :11:31.what the public heard. I think they heard leaving and "Leaving". The

:11:32. > :11:35.point I was going to make was that since the general election we have

:11:36. > :11:39.started to hear the business voice, which was absent in the election

:11:40. > :11:43.campaign, saying, OK, we are going to leave, but if you leave and leave

:11:44. > :11:46.means leaving the customs union, or most of the single market, the

:11:47. > :11:52.impact that would have on jobs and investment and bureaucracy, more

:11:53. > :11:55.regulation, not less, would be disastrous for jobs and investment.

:11:56. > :11:59.There is a phrase going back many centuries, don't cut off your nose

:12:00. > :12:04.to spite your face. I fear that Nigel is trying to cut off the nose

:12:05. > :12:07.of the nation by demanding and putting the Prime Minister in a

:12:08. > :12:13.position where unless she delivers an impossible thing, she will have

:12:14. > :12:17.failed. What is impossible? To have a Brexit which does not involve a

:12:18. > :12:23.financial contribution, because there will have to be a financial

:12:24. > :12:27.contribution. The argument is about size. Exactly. But if we are to have

:12:28. > :12:33.an ongoing, sensible relationship which means we do not end up with

:12:34. > :12:39.bigger regulatory burdens, we need mechanisms to manage our trade and

:12:40. > :12:41.regulatory relations with the European Union. If those are called

:12:42. > :12:44.by Nigel bureaucracy and we break from that entirely, in the end, you

:12:45. > :12:47.end up breaking away from our main trading partner and piling extra

:12:48. > :12:53.regulation and cost on British business. It is a great big world

:12:54. > :12:59.out there. Why you talk about the 15% of the globe's GDP as the be all

:13:00. > :13:05.and end all is beyond me. Lets not fight the referendum again. That's

:13:06. > :13:08.look at where we are now. The problem is that corporate Britain is

:13:09. > :13:12.organised. The same people that campaign for us to join the euro are

:13:13. > :13:18.now campaigning to stay in the customs union. There is not a voice

:13:19. > :13:27.of opposition. We saw this when the CBI wanted Britain to join the

:13:28. > :13:33.pound. We desperately need British business... Hang on. We are not

:13:34. > :13:37.going to refight the referendum. We are not going to refight the Battle

:13:38. > :13:45.of whether we should join the euro or not. Please, be quiet. Just be

:13:46. > :13:52.quiet. Is there not a sense of drift? The head of the National

:13:53. > :13:54.Audit Office, an independent body, respected senior civil servant, says

:13:55. > :13:57.the government is putting a successful Brexit at risk by failing

:13:58. > :14:04.to show active and energetic leadership.

:14:05. > :14:12.Michel Barnier said this week, I hear the clock ticking, and he's

:14:13. > :14:16.right. We did that and gathered, -- we delete and dallied, we've wasted

:14:17. > :14:20.time with a general election that didn't work, so yes I am worried. He

:14:21. > :14:25.says nobody can show him a plan for Brexit and he's the head of the

:14:26. > :14:29.National Audit Office. I am concerned, and perhaps it gets back

:14:30. > :14:32.to Theresa May. How can you have somebody leading the whole of this

:14:33. > :14:40.was still clearly doesn't believe in it? You don't think she is in

:14:41. > :14:45.favour? She was asked four times in that interview by Paxman, did she

:14:46. > :14:51.now agree with Brexit? I don't know a single leading Tory Eurosceptic

:14:52. > :14:54.who agrees with you. They are worried about Mr Hammond, the

:14:55. > :14:59.Chancellor, they are worried about Amber Rudd and a number of other

:15:00. > :15:02.people in the Cabinet who they don't think their hearts are in it, but

:15:03. > :15:10.not one of them has ever expressed any doubts... I would say that some

:15:11. > :15:15.of the Eurosceptics in the Cabinet are quite worried about the

:15:16. > :15:21.inflexibility of her positions. It's too hard line? And I think that will

:15:22. > :15:25.cost her the job. Let me come back to your moment of the week, because

:15:26. > :15:29.it's clear that Labour will mount a guerrilla war against the Brexit

:15:30. > :15:32.legislation in Parliament. They need, and they hope to provoke an

:15:33. > :15:38.early election. I don't disagree with that. But the Tory side is

:15:39. > :15:42.going to stay solid on this, because they don't want another early

:15:43. > :15:48.election, and there are a sizeable number of pro-Brexit Labour rebels.

:15:49. > :15:52.You add them to the DUP and a whipped Tory party and the

:15:53. > :15:58.government is always likely to get a majority. Well, the government may

:15:59. > :16:03.get through second reading... You said it might not I'm saying, if you

:16:04. > :16:09.look at the Parliamentary arithmetic, how does it lose? You

:16:10. > :16:12.take a whipped Tory party that will be reunited, you act in the DUP and

:16:13. > :16:19.there are 20 odd Labour Brexiteers will vote. You will -- how will they

:16:20. > :16:27.lose? And then there are 100 amendments... And then the bill, as

:16:28. > :16:32.amended, has to be amended again by the government to get it back. On

:16:33. > :16:36.fundamental amendments, they will still be able to count on that

:16:37. > :16:42.alliance of Labour Brexiteers, DUP and the Conservatives. I doubt it,

:16:43. > :16:49.because there will be argued that what is a fundamental Amendment. I

:16:50. > :16:53.think on particular issues, as they start to arrive, as we saw this

:16:54. > :16:56.week, suddenly that hard majority for Brexit starts to have some

:16:57. > :17:04.doubts when there's arguments are made. In the last 24 hours, you now

:17:05. > :17:09.have Conservative chairs of the select committees for Treasury and

:17:10. > :17:13.foreign affairs, as well as death row, Labour chairs of Brexit and

:17:14. > :17:19.home affairs and business, all of whom disagree with Nigel's hard

:17:20. > :17:27.Brexit vision and want something. -- as well as Defra. Real Brexit! We

:17:28. > :17:34.voted to leave! You are worried about Parliament. I am. I am

:17:35. > :17:37.concerned, actually more about amendments getting through. I'm

:17:38. > :17:42.concerned that a gradual watering down and the government falling on

:17:43. > :17:48.this. But your point is right. The political class are fighting back

:17:49. > :17:55.very hard. All I can say is, if we reach a period at the end of 2019 at

:17:56. > :17:58.the end of all of this when we really haven't got Brexit, I think

:17:59. > :18:03.we are going to see a backlash the likes of which we may never have

:18:04. > :18:08.seen. Maybe, for your side of the argument, your best hope is that Mrs

:18:09. > :18:12.May will show steely determination on this, because her only hope of

:18:13. > :18:16.not going down in the history books as a total failure, which is what

:18:17. > :18:21.she would at the moment if there was to be an election in September, is

:18:22. > :18:29.to secure a successful Brexit deal. If she doesn't do that, she is not a

:18:30. > :18:33.success. I think it's very hard indeed for her to be a serious

:18:34. > :18:37.negotiator with Europe. It will be very hard not to have a general

:18:38. > :18:41.election before the final deal is done, and the Conservatives would be

:18:42. > :18:45.much better at using another leader, probably David Davis, a Brexiteer

:18:46. > :18:48.who is ready to make compromises. This debate will unfold in the next

:18:49. > :18:51.year and people will have to realise that, to get a Brexit in the

:18:52. > :18:59.national interest which protects jobs and investment, they'll have to

:19:00. > :19:02.ignore Nigel Farage and his extreme arguments... Oh, please! 52% of

:19:03. > :19:07.people voted for it. You may not like it and I tell you what... You

:19:08. > :19:12.can fight for it all you like. In the grip of corporate Britain and

:19:13. > :19:16.their pay, you can fight as hard as you like, but the fact is, if we

:19:17. > :19:22.have a second referendum, it will be a bigger majority. We have run out

:19:23. > :19:25.of time on this. We've overrun on this. We need to move on. Nigel

:19:26. > :19:26.Farage, thank you. Now, it's late - cuddle and a cry

:19:27. > :19:29.with Philip May late. But if, like the Prime Minister,

:19:30. > :19:32.you'd rather not hear about the 2017 general election ever again,

:19:33. > :19:34.fear not, because waiting in the wings is comedian

:19:35. > :19:37.Richard Herring, here to put So go Facebonkers,

:19:38. > :19:41.Snapcrazy and Twitterrific. You can even bring your

:19:42. > :19:46.Instagranny for all we care. So, Mrs May moved into

:19:47. > :19:48.Downing Street a year ago today. Well, happy anniversary,

:19:49. > :19:49.Prime Minister. Though to paraphrase the Japanese

:19:50. > :19:57.emperor after the Americans dropped the second atom bomb on his country,

:19:58. > :20:01.recent events have not developed We were going to throw

:20:02. > :20:08.you a party but the DUP said it As teetotal Presbyterians they

:20:09. > :20:11.weren't that keen on parties anyway. We bought you a cake

:20:12. > :20:14.but Boris Johnson ate it. We invited the whole

:20:15. > :20:17.of the Parliamentary party and your two former closest

:20:18. > :20:19.advisers, Lady Macbeth and Rasputin. So we had no idea how

:20:20. > :20:25.much Blue Nun to order. It's always been lonely at the top

:20:26. > :20:29.but this is solitude of a new order. Here's Sky's Beth Rigby

:20:30. > :20:40.with her round up of the week. Prosecco price wars,

:20:41. > :21:03.Wimbledon wash-outs and mutinous mutterings

:21:04. > :21:06.about the party leadership. All we need now is a hosepipe

:21:07. > :21:10.ban to know that summer Well, that means one thing - it's

:21:11. > :21:22.time for the This Week summer party! It wouldn't be a party

:21:23. > :21:31.without the This Week marquee. The big tents are all

:21:32. > :21:35.the rage these days. The Prime Minister had

:21:36. > :21:39.a relaunch this week, promising to throw the Tory tent

:21:40. > :21:43.flaps wide in an attempt to deliver But Jeremy Corbyn's in no mood

:21:44. > :21:53.to play happy campers. If the Prime Minister would like it,

:21:54. > :22:00.I'm very happy to furnish her with a copy of our election

:22:01. > :22:02.manifesto or, better still, an early election in order

:22:03. > :22:06.that the people of this But it looks like the PM's

:22:07. > :22:11.fluffy relaunch has been Hey, somebody's been pulling out

:22:12. > :22:18.the pegs of the big tent! MPs on both sides of the House

:22:19. > :22:23.are still smarting from an election marked by personal

:22:24. > :22:28.abuse and intimidation. And the Prime Minister has now

:22:29. > :22:34.called for an investigation, as MPs What is different about what is

:22:35. > :22:41.happening at this election, in which I was subjected

:22:42. > :22:43.to anti-Semitic abuse, my staff were spat at,

:22:44. > :22:46.my boards and property were attacked, is that it has been

:22:47. > :22:49.politically motivated, and the elephant in the room

:22:50. > :22:52.here is it has been motivated by the language of some

:22:53. > :22:54.of our political leaders. Now they press a button and you read

:22:55. > :22:59.violent abuse which, 30 years ago, people would have been frightened

:23:00. > :23:02.to even write down. So I accept that male

:23:03. > :23:06.politicians get abuse too, but I hope the one thing we can

:23:07. > :23:10.agree on in this chamber If it's good enough

:23:11. > :23:32.for the Beckhams. Thanks, Liz, I'll have milk

:23:33. > :23:35.and two sugars, please. # Well, my idea of heaven

:23:36. > :23:43.is a nice cup of tea...# Well, Michel Barnier's proven

:23:44. > :23:50.a tough nut to crack in those David Davis meanwhile admitted

:23:51. > :23:55.that the two-year deadline Yes, I believe we can get a free

:23:56. > :24:02.trade negotiation included, and the customs agreement

:24:03. > :24:08.negotiation concluded in the period. What will be much more difficult,

:24:09. > :24:12.however, is to get all the practical Not so much for us -

:24:13. > :24:18.it will be quite tough to get our customs in the right place in two

:24:19. > :24:20.years, but it's doable. But to get the French customs

:24:21. > :24:25.in the same place in two years, or the Belgian or the Dutch customs,

:24:26. > :24:30.I think will be a different issue. A major sticking point

:24:31. > :24:33.is the divorce bill. Some reports put the figure at up

:24:34. > :24:38.to 100 billion euros. Boris Johnson said the Government

:24:39. > :24:43.would never pay that amount. The sums that I have seen

:24:44. > :24:51.that they propose to demand from this country seem to me to be

:24:52. > :24:55.extortionate, and I think go whistle would be an entirely

:24:56. > :24:59.appropriate expression. The Prime Minister missed PMQs this

:25:00. > :25:15.week to attend a state visit by the King of Spain,

:25:16. > :25:18.where she tried to smile politely Damian Green stood in and clashed

:25:19. > :25:26.with Emily Thornberry over the Government's

:25:27. > :25:31.progress over Brexit. What does no deal actually

:25:32. > :25:34.mean for our businesses, for our people and for issues such

:25:35. > :25:38.as the Irish land border? So, can the First Secretary

:25:39. > :25:43.address this question now - what does no deal look

:25:44. > :25:47.like in practice? The First Secretary downplayed

:25:48. > :25:51.the risk of no deal. Unemployment is now down

:25:52. > :25:56.to its lowest level In the last week alone,

:25:57. > :26:01.both the United States and Australia have said they would like to sign

:26:02. > :26:05.trade deals with Britain So I'm happy to report to her that

:26:06. > :26:10.negotiations are going well and that her fear of no deal

:26:11. > :26:15.is probably overstated. Well, it's not exactly

:26:16. > :26:24.been a textbook relaunch Even the National Audit Office has

:26:25. > :26:29.weighed in, comparing her fragmented approach to Brexit

:26:30. > :26:33.to a chocolate orange. But the Prime Minister was at least

:26:34. > :26:38.trying to show her softer side. I knew the campaign

:26:39. > :26:45.wasn't going perfectly, but still the messages I was getting

:26:46. > :26:47.from people I was speaking to were that we were going to get

:26:48. > :26:51.a better result than we did. The production team didn't make it

:26:52. > :27:10.past the Beefeaters and they've Fernando, can you run

:27:11. > :27:15.me to Annabel's? Our thanks to the palatial

:27:16. > :27:37.Savoy Hotel for putting up with us. And with us now, the Telegraph's

:27:38. > :27:41.Rosa Prince, who's written biographies about Theresa May

:27:42. > :27:43.and Jeremy Corbyn, which means she's totally ill-qualifed to talk

:27:44. > :27:52.about either of them. Is Theresa May capable of

:27:53. > :27:57.reinventing herself? I think if you declare something a relaunch or

:27:58. > :28:04.reinvention you've lost half the battle. In a way, she's in such a

:28:05. > :28:07.political stalemate at the moment, a game of chess in which there is

:28:08. > :28:13.nowhere for her to move, that she's just got to keep plugging away, keep

:28:14. > :28:18.surviving. I think that's the best chance of survival, to do nothing,

:28:19. > :28:23.to stay there, be the Prime Minister and let others work out anyway to

:28:24. > :28:30.get rid of her. For the moment, they don't seem able to. She's been in

:28:31. > :28:32.politics for decades. People know her but she's never really changed

:28:33. > :28:38.from what we can see from the outside. How could she change now? I

:28:39. > :28:44.thought question about shedding a tear was interesting, the way she

:28:45. > :28:47.hesitated, groping around in her mind for a few seconds, thinking how

:28:48. > :28:51.to play that one. I think, if she had succeeded in changing the

:28:52. > :28:56.approach, if there had been an internal relaunch, she'd have dealt

:28:57. > :29:00.with that question rather more deftly than she did. I think, on the

:29:01. > :29:05.other hand, it's difficult for of us to appreciate the psychological

:29:06. > :29:09.trauma that she has been through. To call the general election and to

:29:10. > :29:14.lose the majority would be devastating. I'm quite puzzled about

:29:15. > :29:17.how she gets up in the morning, to be honest. It must be absolutely

:29:18. > :29:22.shocking, what she's been through. As you say, still to be there is, in

:29:23. > :29:27.a sense, an achievement, but it doesn't necessarily suggest she'll

:29:28. > :29:33.be there long. Can she reinvented herself? Once people are talking

:29:34. > :29:41.about the relaunch, it's probably too late. To me, this feels quite

:29:42. > :29:48.redolent of John Major after 1992, the cones Hotline... Gordon Brown.

:29:49. > :29:51.And Tony Blair had his moments. Gordon Brown not signing the Treaty

:29:52. > :29:55.on Lisbon, Iain Duncan Smith talking about being the quiet man, the point

:29:56. > :30:02.when you almost have to claim a relaunch. She had one to the days

:30:03. > :30:06.which was enriching out relaunch and today was an emotional one. I think

:30:07. > :30:10.it's good to show the real hurt, but the problem she'll have is, you do a

:30:11. > :30:14.relaunch, most people don't notice in the country and a week later

:30:15. > :30:19.nothing 's changed, do you do a third or fourth relaunch? The

:30:20. > :30:26.problem is, once it's set, it's really hard to shift things again.

:30:27. > :30:28.She's clearly not going to lead her party into another general election,

:30:29. > :30:33.so it makes you wonder, why does their image really matter? Surely if

:30:34. > :30:35.she's not going to fight another general election, she should just

:30:36. > :30:44.get on with the job. I think so. What brought her to this

:30:45. > :30:50.position in the first place was that she was not the glittering David

:30:51. > :30:57.Cameron type. This time last year, everyone rather liked that she was

:30:58. > :31:01.quiet, understated, wasn't particularly good at talking to

:31:02. > :31:06.people, and that did her quite well for ten months. It went horribly

:31:07. > :31:10.wrong during the election. That was when the British people got to see

:31:11. > :31:14.her. They thought they liked her but didn't really know her. The election

:31:15. > :31:19.campaign gave her a chance to know her and they didn't like what they

:31:20. > :31:23.saw. Perhaps the problem for her is that general elections need a

:31:24. > :31:28.different type of person own band running the country. Now she is back

:31:29. > :31:33.to running the country, if she can do her submarine act and submerge

:31:34. > :31:42.for a bit... Hard to do as Prime Minister. Without a majority! Is she

:31:43. > :31:46.a better Prime Minister than an election campaign? Probably.

:31:47. > :31:51.Three-year, as you say, things were not going to badly. A few months ago

:31:52. > :31:55.she was 20 points ahead of her political rival and appeared rather

:31:56. > :32:00.popular. She was given credit for not being what David Cameron was,

:32:01. > :32:04.overly talkative, launching half baked initiatives every day of the

:32:05. > :32:09.week. She did none of that, but what a difference a month makes, all the

:32:10. > :32:12.difference in the world. We were all shocked by what happened in the

:32:13. > :32:22.election. None of us conceived that you could lose a 20% margin in 30

:32:23. > :32:26.days. Imagine how shocked she is. Is Jeremy Corbyn, as leader of the

:32:27. > :32:33.Labour Party, the same Jeremy Corbyn who was a far left rubble and

:32:34. > :32:37.agitator? No. If you look at the pictures from PMQs, the collapse in

:32:38. > :32:44.Mauro, standing and puff of Theresa May has been matched by a rise of

:32:45. > :32:46.Jeremy Corbyn. There is more confidence, more projection. You

:32:47. > :32:51.have to give him confidence as well for the way in which he has been

:32:52. > :32:55.empathetic and inspired young people, talking about hope. The

:32:56. > :32:59.issue now is whether he draws the right lesson. This is the first time

:33:00. > :33:03.for 20 years you have a Labour leader who lost a general election

:33:04. > :33:08.but has not gone straight into a leadership election. He now has got

:33:09. > :33:13.to ask the question, what do I need to do as a leader to go from just

:33:14. > :33:17.losing to winning? That is a discussion about policy and style.

:33:18. > :33:23.He has to understand the concerns of some voters on Labour on the economy

:33:24. > :33:26.and security. The question is will he draw the right lesson is, in the

:33:27. > :33:32.way Neil Kinnock tried to after 1987? And he has not got to do that

:33:33. > :33:37.while fighting a leadership election, so it is a big test for

:33:38. > :33:43.him. If he has changed, why has he surrounded himself with the hard

:33:44. > :33:48.left? How does that show he has changed? I think he has to broaden

:33:49. > :33:54.his team. You would not have gone near these people. In this

:33:55. > :34:00.situation, I would have broadened my Shadow Cabinet. But he hasn't. If he

:34:01. > :34:04.ploughs on with a tight group, thinking more of the same will get

:34:05. > :34:10.him the next step, I fear that will not work, but it is up to him. He

:34:11. > :34:14.has to ask those questions in Mansfield, parts of Scotland, why

:34:15. > :34:18.didn't Labour win? He has to understand the concerns and go and

:34:19. > :34:22.talk to voters, not only those who come to his rallies. Compared to

:34:23. > :34:27.three months ago, I think there is a chance he could do it, but it won't

:34:28. > :34:32.happen unless he learns the right lessons from the last election. Has

:34:33. > :34:37.Jeremy Corbyn changed? I don't think so. I think there was an ego hidden

:34:38. > :34:43.in there all along that we have now all got to see. I think he enjoys it

:34:44. > :34:48.and he has grown into it and he seems a bit more assured. I am

:34:49. > :34:54.afraid I think that is what he needs to do, to reach out, but he won't.

:34:55. > :34:59.He had those opportunities. He performed so much better than

:35:00. > :35:05.anybody in the centre of the Labour Party, like Ed Balls, thought he

:35:06. > :35:10.would. So much better. So much better than Theresa May. If an

:35:11. > :35:15.election is caused by the collapse of the Labour government, most of us

:35:16. > :35:17.would bet that Labour would win without any changes. In different

:35:18. > :35:21.circumstances, that might be a different answer. But if the

:35:22. > :35:25.government collapses in the next few months, he is likely to win without

:35:26. > :35:31.making any changes. I think that is the wrong advice. If you want him to

:35:32. > :35:34.win, and maybe you don't. But the reality is, if there is a general

:35:35. > :35:39.election campaign where Jeremy Corbyn is six points behind in the

:35:40. > :35:42.polls for three weeks, you have a real chance of winning. But he has

:35:43. > :35:47.to plan for a campaign where Labour is ahead and people are asking, can

:35:48. > :35:53.Jeremy Corbyn become Prime Minister. Then becomes about the team and the.

:35:54. > :35:56.He is not turning to people like new, is he? Because your wing of the

:35:57. > :36:02.Labour Party is now irrelevant to him. He is in charge, his people are

:36:03. > :36:07.in charge. He is moving to take over the party and run it in his image,

:36:08. > :36:10.and you can't stop him. Labour exists in parliament to become the

:36:11. > :36:17.government, and that means you have to win a majority. Can he win? I

:36:18. > :36:21.don't he can win a majority because I don't think he is prepared to do

:36:22. > :36:26.what he needs to do to win a majority. He could certainly be the

:36:27. > :36:35.largest party. He had a hard enough time kissing hands when he first

:36:36. > :36:38.became leader. What if the FN Ashman the SNP was to charge a billion?

:36:39. > :36:40.Now, what's the toughest part of being an MP?

:36:41. > :36:47.Well, there's one aspect of the job that politicians have always

:36:48. > :36:49.found impossible to get right - acting normal.

:36:50. > :36:51.From eating bacon sarnies to executing a Mexican wave,

:36:52. > :36:53.our politicians have always left the rest of us cringing

:36:54. > :36:56.in their attempt to be at one with Joe Public.

:36:57. > :36:58.So it's only fitting we're putting political awkwardness

:36:59. > :37:08.Yes, it's been another awkward week for Donald Trump.

:37:09. > :37:14.His son leaked his own e-mails with a Russian intermediary.

:37:15. > :37:17.In retrospect, I probably would have done things a little differently.

:37:18. > :37:19.Did you tell your father anything about this?

:37:20. > :37:26.Thankfully, Kellyanne Conway was on hand to clear it all up.

:37:27. > :37:29.This is to help all the people so far.

:37:30. > :37:38.So, just so we're clear, everyone, four words -

:37:39. > :37:47.Meanwhile, the King of Spain came to visit.

:37:48. > :37:53.Cue awkward royal hat moments and uncomfortable topics to address.

:37:54. > :37:58.I am certain that this resolve to overcome our differences

:37:59. > :38:01.will be even greater in the case of Gibraltar.

:38:02. > :38:08.In Parliament, one Tory MP shared his thoughts on the PM's

:38:09. > :38:10.clumsy conciliation with Jeremy Corbyn.

:38:11. > :38:12.Given the record of the Leader of the Opposition

:38:13. > :38:18.on the Counterterrorism and Security Act, does she possess

:38:19. > :38:24.While at Wimbledon, Andy Murray took exception to one

:38:25. > :38:34.Andy, Sam is the first US player to reach a Major semifinal since 2009.

:38:35. > :38:50.Comedian Richard Herring thinks we're living in a golden age

:38:51. > :38:58.of political awkwardness, and he's loving every minute of it.

:38:59. > :39:12.Are we living in an age of unprecedented political awkwardness?

:39:13. > :39:17.We have a lot of terrible politicians. Democracy has fallen in

:39:18. > :39:21.on itself and given us some terrible people we have to put up with. We

:39:22. > :39:27.have had one of them onto night, at least. And he has never even been

:39:28. > :39:33.elected. He is a member of the European Parliament. He is trying to

:39:34. > :39:37.destroy his own... He is not here so let's stick to the awkward

:39:38. > :39:43.proposition. Our politicians naturally awkward? I don't think so.

:39:44. > :39:46.Maybe it is because we see so much into their lives now, Strictly Come

:39:47. > :39:51.Dancing and people dressed in space suits. I don't think Gladstone would

:39:52. > :39:55.have done that. That is part of it. It has become entertainment and

:39:56. > :40:02.everyone is school in how to answer questions. Theresa May, throughout

:40:03. > :40:05.the whole election, just giving out her nonsensical answers to

:40:06. > :40:08.questions, carried on doing it after the election in much more difficult

:40:09. > :40:14.circumstances, and we are clever enough to see through it. The

:40:15. > :40:19.reference to Gladstone is interesting because we were a much

:40:20. > :40:22.more formal society in the 19th century and politicians were

:40:23. > :40:28.expected to be the formal of a formal. We are now much more

:40:29. > :40:33.informal and we probably expect, at least the politicians think they

:40:34. > :40:39.need to be more informal, too. It definitely cuts both ways, true.

:40:40. > :40:44.They are not very good at it. Theresa May is Prime Minister,

:40:45. > :40:48.somehow, and she is the most awkward person. As we have seen, that

:40:49. > :40:50.incredible election campaign where she went from basically the

:40:51. > :40:55.Conservative Party's name was not even on the banner, and you saw her

:40:56. > :41:02.just fall, as it was too much pressure. As everyone says, she is a

:41:03. > :41:05.very robotic and strange woman who cried at losing an election

:41:06. > :41:09.apparently but did not show any emotion in the coming weeks when

:41:10. > :41:14.terrible things happened. I think this is a lazy way of discussing the

:41:15. > :41:19.subject. The politicians we have are not a breed, not born separately,

:41:20. > :41:23.not a different species. They arise from the public. If you think

:41:24. > :41:29.politicians are so dreadful, be a politician yourself, stop whining

:41:30. > :41:35.about it. I have just been asked to talk about it. I have a lot of

:41:36. > :41:39.respect for a lot of politicians but it is the people who are rising to

:41:40. > :41:43.the top. I think there are a lot of great politicians and MPs and I do

:41:44. > :41:47.not say any politician is awful but there are a lot of politicians

:41:48. > :41:55.rising up from the same school, so it's all very well to say... It was

:41:56. > :41:59.my attempt at changing your June. I am not changing my tune. I am

:42:00. > :42:04.talking about Trump and May, and even called in to an extent. You are

:42:05. > :42:08.just going for the easy targets. I am going for the people in charge,

:42:09. > :42:12.which is what we are talking about. There are plenty of decent

:42:13. > :42:18.politicians but because it is so showbiz, the wrong people are pushed

:42:19. > :42:23.to the top. It is also 24-7, so you have more chance to see awkward

:42:24. > :42:29.moments. In days gone by, you would never have got to see them. There is

:42:30. > :42:32.such inconsistency in what you say. It is showbiz and people are pushed

:42:33. > :42:37.to the top. Mrs May has not been pushed to the top because she is

:42:38. > :42:40.showbiz. You have not bought the thing through, have you? We are

:42:41. > :42:45.talking about lots of different things. She has not done a good job.

:42:46. > :42:50.We are talking about awkwardness and she has been very awkward. She has

:42:51. > :42:54.been treated as a showbiz person. After the Grenfell Tower disaster,

:42:55. > :42:57.if she had just said, this is terrible and answered as a human

:42:58. > :43:02.being, she could have turned everything around within two or

:43:03. > :43:06.three days. Instead, she did what she did in the election, which was

:43:07. > :43:09.to give what she had trotted out, Brexit means Brexit, we are not

:43:10. > :43:15.answering the question, and people turned against her. That is where

:43:16. > :43:21.she was weakened. Who is more awkward, Gordon Brown or Theresa

:43:22. > :43:25.May? I think Theresa May is as awkward in private as she is in

:43:26. > :43:29.public, and Gordon was somebody who in private was much more at ease

:43:30. > :43:35.with himself and found it very hard to convey that on camera. One of the

:43:36. > :43:38.things which Richard isn't taking into account is that the reality is

:43:39. > :43:42.it is quite hard not to be awkward when you are asked to do important

:43:43. > :43:46.or difficult things, but being filmed with cameras and

:43:47. > :43:50.photographers around you. In the end, you have to be able to put that

:43:51. > :43:56.to one side and be yourself and be as authentic as you can. Gordon

:43:57. > :43:59.found it hard, Theresa May finds it impossible. Tony Blair was better at

:44:00. > :44:05.that but you probably dislike him for different reasons. What are you

:44:06. > :44:09.up to? Ayew I'm doing in Edinburgh show. I have a book of emergency

:44:10. > :44:15.questions that can help you out. But not for us - we're off to Number

:44:16. > :44:22.10 for Theresa May's annual Chocolate Oranges for every

:44:23. > :44:26.participant and a bottle of prosecco for the winning team -

:44:27. > :44:29.Philip May should be warming it up Anyway, here's a sneak peek

:44:30. > :45:30.of our musical teamwork When I think of the world

:45:31. > :45:34.we inhabit, everyone will think,