0:00:06 > 0:00:10Tonight, on this week, Andrew Neil is back.
0:00:10 > 0:00:14Only this episode of This Week could be more exciting than the first.
0:00:14 > 0:00:15Underneath the Russian consulate.
0:00:15 > 0:00:24Director of military intelligence.
0:00:24 > 0:00:25On his left?
0:00:25 > 0:00:30Chief of security.
0:00:30 > 0:00:33Has the Kremlin been meddling with Western democracy?
0:00:33 > 0:00:34Are you sure this plan is foolproof?
0:00:34 > 0:00:37Yes, it is.
0:00:37 > 0:00:40Notorious Russia today secret agent Afshin Rattansi is back.
0:00:40 > 0:00:44He thinks it's all a joke.
0:00:44 > 0:00:46And I'll be explaining how Twitter trolls and RT are shaking
0:00:46 > 0:00:52and stirring the very foundations of Western democracy.
0:00:52 > 0:00:56I warned you, we do not tolerate failure, number three.
0:00:56 > 0:01:00Agent Adrian Chiles, codenamed five Live Big Stuff,
0:01:00 > 0:01:04goes under the covers in his pyjamas.
0:01:04 > 0:01:05My orders are simple.
0:01:05 > 0:01:07To round up the political week.
0:01:07 > 0:01:10Which lunatic asylum did they get you out of?
0:01:10 > 0:01:12Don't make it tougher on yourself.
0:01:12 > 0:01:14And historian Bettany Hughes plays the devil's double-cross.
0:01:14 > 0:01:18007 was given a licence to objectify women.
0:01:18 > 0:01:23But in the age of social media, have things got any better?
0:01:23 > 0:01:24From Russia with Love.
0:01:24 > 0:01:27They dance for him, they yearn for him, they die for him.
0:01:27 > 0:01:30From Westminster to Pimlico, Peckham to Penge, agent Andrew Neil
0:01:30 > 0:01:37cuts an inimitable figure on the This Week set.
0:01:41 > 0:01:42Evenin' all.
0:01:42 > 0:01:43Welcome to This Week.
0:01:43 > 0:01:45And we come to you tonight from a secret studio
0:01:45 > 0:01:47in the bowels of Westminster.
0:01:47 > 0:01:49Because, after 14 years as your Dear Thursday Night Leader,
0:01:49 > 0:01:54the Director-General of the BBC, feared everywhere as Tony
0:01:54 > 0:01:57the Crocodile, has mounted a coup against me, backed by the brutal
0:01:57 > 0:02:01forces of the North Korean-trained Newsnight militia
0:02:01 > 0:02:06and the Dimbleby Light Infantry.
0:02:06 > 0:02:08The DG says it's not a coup.
0:02:08 > 0:02:10But it looks and sounds like a coup to me.
0:02:10 > 0:02:14And I'm not talking about the Scottish pronunciation of a cow.
0:02:14 > 0:02:17Now I realise, dear viewer, that we've been living high
0:02:17 > 0:02:20on the hog these past 14 years, with unlimited quantities
0:02:20 > 0:02:24of Blue Nun and free membership of Lou Lou's nightclub,
0:02:24 > 0:02:28while you've had to make do with the odd cup of fortified wine
0:02:28 > 0:02:30and a Lidl loyalty card.
0:02:30 > 0:02:34But do you think things will really be better under the Crocodile?
0:02:34 > 0:02:35Do you?
0:02:35 > 0:02:37Really?
0:02:37 > 0:02:39He makes his people drink the BBC canteen coffee you know,
0:02:39 > 0:02:43even though that won't keep thm awake.
0:02:43 > 0:02:47Speaking of those you wouldn't trust as far as you could throw them,
0:02:47 > 0:02:51I'm joined on the sofa tonight by two has-beens who'd
0:02:51 > 0:02:54sell their grannies just for five minutes back in the limelight.
0:02:54 > 0:02:57I speak, of course, of Michael "the Machete" Portillo
0:02:57 > 0:03:05and Ed "Kalashnikov" Balls.
0:03:05 > 0:03:12Welcome. Your moment of the week, Michael?It had better be the coup
0:03:12 > 0:03:17in Zimbabwe which you have been parodying a moment ago. For two
0:03:17 > 0:03:21reasons. One, I feel a certain personal satisfaction in seeing this
0:03:21 > 0:03:26horrendous dictator at least confined to his house. Secondly,
0:03:26 > 0:03:31although the outcome is uncertain and it may just be that we trade one
0:03:31 > 0:03:35dictator for another, at least one source smiles on the faces of some
0:03:35 > 0:03:39people in Harare, and they really haven't had anything to laugh about
0:03:39 > 0:03:43for the last 30 years. So at least it was a moment for them, even if it
0:03:43 > 0:03:50proves nothing more.At least there may be hope. Your moment?It has
0:03:50 > 0:03:54been a while Brexit week, for a change, but my moment was an
0:03:54 > 0:03:57astonishing article in the Sun newspaper by the Prime Minister's
0:03:57 > 0:04:01former chief of staff, completely laying into the Chancellor of the
0:04:01 > 0:04:07Exchequer just a few days before his Budget, saying that he lacked
0:04:07 > 0:04:11vision, essentially economic literacy, and saying that he lacked
0:04:11 > 0:04:16a burning desire to change people's lives for the better. In normal
0:04:16 > 0:04:21times, that would have been a huge story. But with what is going on at
0:04:21 > 0:04:25the moment, it seemed to pass unnoticed.It must have brought back
0:04:25 > 0:04:31memories of you and Mr Blair and Mr Brown.There were some tough times.
0:04:31 > 0:04:39But compared to that, they were bosom pals.It makes you wonder what
0:04:39 > 0:04:42was happening when Timothy was in ten Downing St. It was like that
0:04:42 > 0:04:45with the Chancellor.
0:04:45 > 0:04:48It's a common meme among our own dear chattering classes that good
0:04:48 > 0:04:50old Blighty doesn't really matter any more.
0:04:50 > 0:04:52So it was rather reassuring to learn that Kremlin-backed troll farms
0:04:52 > 0:04:55spent thousands of hours on social media hiding behind false names
0:04:55 > 0:04:59spewing out all manner of nonsense trying to influence the outcome
0:04:59 > 0:05:02of last year's referendum on the EU.
0:05:02 > 0:05:05They even employed countless bots and cyber bots to create fake news,
0:05:05 > 0:05:09which is probably why it came to the attention of our very
0:05:09 > 0:05:14own MayBot, who this week accused the Russians of "weaponising
0:05:14 > 0:05:16information" and mounting a sustained campaign of "cyber
0:05:16 > 0:05:21espionage and disruption".
0:05:21 > 0:05:25On the other hand, her bro in the White House said he believed
0:05:25 > 0:05:28President Putin when he claimed Russia was not meddling
0:05:28 > 0:05:30in Western elections.
0:05:30 > 0:05:32So that pretty much settles it.
0:05:32 > 0:05:34Of course, you couldn't blame Mr Putin for taking
0:05:34 > 0:05:38an interest in our elections, where the outcome is still
0:05:38 > 0:05:40uncertain, whereas the Russian ones are pretty much a foregone
0:05:40 > 0:05:44conclusion these days.
0:05:44 > 0:05:46One key tool of Russian propaganda is the Kremlin-financed RT,
0:05:46 > 0:05:49the channel formerly known as Russia Today but renamed
0:05:49 > 0:05:52in the hope we'd forget the R stood for Russia.
0:05:52 > 0:05:57And roubles.
0:05:57 > 0:05:59Lots of them.
0:05:59 > 0:06:01Which perhaps explains why Alex Salmond is now on its payroll.
0:06:01 > 0:06:06Or maybe not.
0:06:06 > 0:06:10In this era of fake news can we ever establish where the truth lies?
0:06:10 > 0:06:15Here's RT's Afshin Rattansi with his take.
0:06:31 > 0:06:34Yes, Comrade President, so to summarise your daily update,
0:06:34 > 0:06:37Russia will organise Britain's exit from the European Union
0:06:37 > 0:06:39by the 29th of March 2019.
0:06:39 > 0:06:41Our Manchurian candidate is in position at the White
0:06:41 > 0:06:44House, making progress.
0:06:44 > 0:06:49And partisan Carles Puigdemont appears on Comrade Alex Salmond's
0:06:49 > 0:06:52new RT show today to teach him how to break up the United Kingdom,
0:06:52 > 0:06:57as he did so in Spain.
0:06:57 > 0:06:59What you saw was part of my daily briefing with the Kremlin.
0:06:59 > 0:07:03Now we have these stories for today, we can use armies of Twitter trolls,
0:07:03 > 0:07:06plus my show, to destroy the minds of Western voters so they no longer
0:07:06 > 0:07:11understand democracy itself.
0:07:13 > 0:07:14One Moscow Mule, please.
0:07:14 > 0:07:18Don't skimp on the Siberian ice.
0:07:18 > 0:07:20Theresa May used her Lord Mayor's Banquet speech
0:07:20 > 0:07:25to peddle the conspiracy theory that Russia is trying to undermine
0:07:25 > 0:07:30the Western world order, using Twitter, Facebook and RT.
0:07:30 > 0:07:33This is the real fake news.
0:07:33 > 0:07:36Millions of people voted for Brexit, Trump and Catalonian independence
0:07:36 > 0:07:40because after the wilderness years that followed the 2008 global
0:07:40 > 0:07:42financial crisis, they wanted to exercise their democratic right
0:07:42 > 0:07:47to reject the status quo.
0:07:47 > 0:07:49It's insulting to say that discerning voters were brainwashed
0:07:49 > 0:07:53by Photoshop memes and fake news promoted by Twitter bots
0:07:53 > 0:07:57and Facebook trolls.
0:07:57 > 0:08:00Also arguably a pathetic political ruse by Theresa May to distract
0:08:00 > 0:08:03the media and voters from the chaos going on within the
0:08:03 > 0:08:06Conservative Party.
0:08:06 > 0:08:09The plotting and power grabbing are emanating from the Palace
0:08:09 > 0:08:15of Westminster, not Moscow.
0:08:15 > 0:08:18And as for the new Cold War that Theresa May appears
0:08:18 > 0:08:20to say is on the horizon, by resurrecting a new Red Scare
0:08:20 > 0:08:23for the internet age, it is she who risks drawing
0:08:23 > 0:08:26the new Iron Curtain.
0:08:26 > 0:08:33Is it any coincidence that countries who blame Russia for political
0:08:33 > 0:08:35outcomes defend elites that are liberal, Nato-aligned nations?
0:08:35 > 0:08:40States that lie outside this status do not blame Russia for anything.
0:08:42 > 0:08:45And please leave RT out of all of this.
0:08:45 > 0:08:47All we do is try to create the best journalism to inform,
0:08:47 > 0:08:51educate and entertain audiences with stories often overlooked
0:08:51 > 0:08:56by mainstream sources like the BBC.
0:08:56 > 0:08:59No one tells the Going Underground team what to say or do,
0:08:59 > 0:09:02let alone the Kremlin in Moscow.
0:09:02 > 0:09:05Which all goes to show how egregious the attempts by the Western
0:09:05 > 0:09:08establishment to clamp down on the freedom speech of British
0:09:08 > 0:09:13journalists working at the RT headquarters in London really are.
0:09:20 > 0:09:22Our thanks to Novikov restaurant and bar for letting us film
0:09:22 > 0:09:27at their beautiful Mayfair lounge.
0:09:27 > 0:09:28Speaking of beautiful, Afshin Rattansi from RT's
0:09:28 > 0:09:35Global Underground joins me now.
0:09:35 > 0:09:39Why are you in denial that Russia has been meddling in western
0:09:39 > 0:09:44elections when the evidence is overwhelming?It's overwhelming! In
0:09:44 > 0:09:48the past few days, the Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson was clear.
0:09:48 > 0:09:53He said not a sausage of any evidence of Russian meddling in any
0:09:53 > 0:09:56elections in Britain. Why did he change his mind, that is the
0:09:56 > 0:10:02question.So during the referendum were those thousands of Russian
0:10:02 > 0:10:08-based accounts that posted 45,000 Brexit messages in 48 hours and then
0:10:08 > 0:10:12mysteriously closed down after the referendum, we are meant to believe
0:10:12 > 0:10:15these were ordinary Russians with an itinerant interest in British
0:10:15 > 0:10:22politics.You make a good point and maybe we should have another
0:10:22 > 0:10:28referendum.You want us to believe that?What do you mean? I don't
0:10:28 > 0:10:34represent Russia. If there are these bots that you claim, what is your
0:10:34 > 0:10:41argument?You are denying it. Oui I am not denying anything. You cannot
0:10:41 > 0:10:45deny that Russian -based accounts tried to interfere and medal in the
0:10:45 > 0:10:47American election, the French election, the referendum, the German
0:10:47 > 0:10:54election. It is clear.And yet Boris Johnson said there is not a sausage.
0:10:54 > 0:11:00He is the Foreign Secretary.I am asking you.Observing this as a
0:11:00 > 0:11:04journalist, it is obvious there are great power plays between great
0:11:04 > 0:11:08powers and these have existed for centuries. So presumably different
0:11:08 > 0:11:14countries are seeking supremacy at the moment.So Russia does use
0:11:14 > 0:11:21social media?How do I know?You are with Russia today.That is like
0:11:21 > 0:11:24saying because you are at the BBC, you know about Theresa May's
0:11:24 > 0:11:30policies and what they do. Should I just attack British policy through
0:11:30 > 0:11:36Andrew Neil?I do know about Theresa May's policies. You don't know about
0:11:36 > 0:11:43the Kremlin- linked Russian internet research agency?You are right!You
0:11:43 > 0:11:49don't know about it?I obviously don't.And you are a journalist.
0:11:49 > 0:11:52Where are you getting this information from?Everyone knows
0:11:52 > 0:11:57about it. It is called the IRA. That me show you a picture from this
0:11:57 > 0:12:05agency. This was put out by Russian social media, trying to make out
0:12:05 > 0:12:13that this Muslim and is so uncaring about what happened on Westminster
0:12:13 > 0:12:20Bridge, the terrorist attack. Hashtag ban Islam. It comes out as
0:12:20 > 0:12:26if it was an American. It is a Russian.I can't confirm that.Do
0:12:26 > 0:12:31you approve of that?I was in the midst of that attack. Our
0:12:31 > 0:12:36journalists were the first camera crew on the scene.That is not the
0:12:36 > 0:12:41point.So what are you talking about?The people that pay your
0:12:41 > 0:12:47salary are putting this out.How do you know that?Because I know where
0:12:47 > 0:12:52it comes from, the Russian internet research agency, a Kremlin- linked
0:12:52 > 0:12:59agency. Everybody knows that.Who is telling you that?It is well
0:12:59 > 0:13:03established.What does well established, everybody knows, what
0:13:03 > 0:13:07does that mean?There have been four academic studies in the past few
0:13:07 > 0:13:12weeks showing where this comes from. Does this matter?I think the
0:13:12 > 0:13:15questions are to what extent is it co-ordinated and to what extent is
0:13:15 > 0:13:20it effective. There are doubts about those questions. That it is
0:13:20 > 0:13:24happening, there is no doubt, and you would have been on stronger
0:13:24 > 0:13:26ground and at one moment you appeared to move to stronger ground
0:13:26 > 0:13:32in saying that everybody is at it. That is plausible. I think that is a
0:13:32 > 0:13:37stronger argument than saying that it isn't happening.I didn't say it
0:13:37 > 0:13:41wasn't happening, I said the Foreign Secretary said that.It seems there
0:13:41 > 0:13:45are questions as to whether it has yet been effective. But that it
0:13:45 > 0:13:49could be effective in future, I think, is very much in play as a
0:13:49 > 0:13:54strong possibility.
0:13:54 > 0:13:59There is no question it is happening, it is hard to measure if
0:13:59 > 0:14:04it had effect.The Russia Today is a red herring. There is a newscaster
0:14:04 > 0:14:08in Britain regulated by off, you have to meet our standards in the
0:14:08 > 0:14:18way they have to do things according to our Lord -- Ofcom.Hold on,
0:14:18 > 0:14:35Russia Today has been Ofcom 15 times by Ofcom.Channel 4 has been since
0:14:35 > 0:14:51he fresh -- censured.There is an allegation that comes from the
0:14:51 > 0:14:58Russian government as well. The only thing that is incredible in your
0:14:58 > 0:15:05interview was you cite Boris Johnson as a credible...He has done it
0:15:05 > 0:15:12three times, that is a sign of desperation. You say that Russia
0:15:12 > 0:15:19Today... All right, we will call it roubles today.It does journalism at
0:15:19 > 0:15:27the BBC. I would say it does journalism different to the BBC.In
0:15:27 > 0:15:322015, your channel claimed the BBC staged a chemical weapons attack in
0:15:32 > 0:15:46Syria. It did not. Russia Today did. You were censured by Ofcom. You
0:15:46 > 0:15:50digitally altered the words spoken by an interviewee to stand up the
0:15:50 > 0:15:59story. I am talking about RT. Your channel has also peddled conspiracy
0:15:59 > 0:16:09theories that September the 11th was an inside job.Do you think the
0:16:09 > 0:16:15team... ? We are regulated by British Government agencies. If
0:16:15 > 0:16:19anything of that kind was found to be egregious, we would be fined,
0:16:19 > 0:16:27taken off air.As the Iranian channel has.You do not have a first
0:16:27 > 0:16:42Amendment. Laura Kuenssberg still kept her job after hitting out at...
0:16:42 > 0:16:46Laura Kuenssberg is a fine journalist. Isn't the issue what is
0:16:46 > 0:16:52coming from the Kremlin and what effect it has, it is divisive, as we
0:16:52 > 0:16:56saw from that tweet. It is potentially very disruptive, if it
0:16:56 > 0:17:00is true this is coming into the NHS. How do you know it is coming from
0:17:00 > 0:17:04the Kremlin will stop this is where the James Bond theme in this
0:17:04 > 0:17:11programme is good. You are of the Cold War mindset. You have to make
0:17:11 > 0:17:16new friends, with China, Russia, Brazil, India. You have to realise
0:17:16 > 0:17:20these stories that appear in the papers telling you that the Kremlin
0:17:20 > 0:17:27put that tweet out, why do you believe it?Can be one thought, with
0:17:27 > 0:17:32the strength of evidence the Kremlin is interfering in electoral
0:17:32 > 0:17:36processes in the west, it is extraordinary and worrying that
0:17:36 > 0:17:41Donald Trump chooses to believe Putin without any question, to
0:17:41 > 0:17:46denounce two former directors of the CIA and to give the impression he is
0:17:46 > 0:17:50a man, what, one would almost say responding to some kind of fear of
0:17:50 > 0:18:02blackmail from Russia.You do not see the value of the taunt. You do
0:18:02 > 0:18:07not see any idea that Donald Trump, moving closer to making deals with
0:18:07 > 0:18:11Vladimir Putin perhaps over strategic Arms Limitation is a good
0:18:11 > 0:18:16idea? You obviously don't understand what is at stake.I do not think it
0:18:16 > 0:18:20is a good idea to deny what is obviously the case that Russia is
0:18:20 > 0:18:25interfering in electoral processes in the west. That limits the
0:18:25 > 0:18:28credibility of the president and leads to the suspicion he is a
0:18:28 > 0:18:39frightened man.The whole point of Russia Today and election meddling,
0:18:39 > 0:18:44it is focused to undermine our faith in our democratic institutions and
0:18:44 > 0:18:50to divide us as we saw from the tweet we put on the screen. Mind you
0:18:50 > 0:18:57want to be a part of that? Part of what?What I said.What do you mean?
0:18:57 > 0:19:01That is what it does. I went to your website before we came on tonight
0:19:01 > 0:19:10and there are stories that try to undermine our faith in our society.
0:19:10 > 0:19:17They tried to divide us. Give provenance to Catalonia, Scottish
0:19:17 > 0:19:22independence. You try to divide us. I understand why the Kremlin wants
0:19:22 > 0:19:27to do that, but I am puzzled as to why, why do you want to be part of
0:19:27 > 0:19:31that?One of the first rules of journalism the way I see it I
0:19:31 > 0:19:40practised it here at the BBC and that CNN and others, is that we, we
0:19:40 > 0:19:44tell journalists think of the poorest person watching, see what
0:19:44 > 0:19:55their lives are like. There have been many shows about rights in
0:19:55 > 0:20:01Russia today. Again, you do not watch the channel. You have not seen
0:20:01 > 0:20:05debates about homosexuality, debates about Russian atrocities in Syria.
0:20:05 > 0:20:10All you three are doing is you are frightened of a new entrant,
0:20:10 > 0:20:16especially when Sky News may be closing down. You may be left all
0:20:16 > 0:20:24alone at the BBC. RT may be the main news provider.On that bit of fake
0:20:24 > 0:20:28news we will call an end to it. Thanks for being with us.
0:20:28 > 0:20:30It's late.
0:20:30 > 0:20:31Trump and Kim late.
0:20:31 > 0:20:33With insults that can only be broadcast after the watershed.
0:20:33 > 0:20:36This time the "leader of the Free World" fired off
0:20:36 > 0:20:37a rather passive-aggressive inter-continental Twitter-barb
0:20:37 > 0:20:42at the "Dear Leader", insisting he would never call
0:20:42 > 0:20:45Kim Jong Un "short and fat", even though Kim had called him "old".
0:20:45 > 0:20:50For his part, Mr Kim took it rather well,
0:20:50 > 0:20:53merely sentencing the Donald to death if he ever shows his big
0:20:53 > 0:20:56tangerine face in Pyongyang.
0:20:56 > 0:21:00Think of the danger if they both had nuclear weapons.
0:21:00 > 0:21:04Someone with a more reasonable approach to our looks
0:21:04 > 0:21:06is the historian and author Bettany Hughes, who's putting body
0:21:06 > 0:21:09image in the Spotlight.
0:21:09 > 0:21:12And if you've got something to say about tonight's programme then ask
0:21:12 > 0:21:14yourself whether you're getting out enough.
0:21:14 > 0:21:17I know I'm not.
0:21:17 > 0:21:24But if you insist on sprinkling malodorous comments into the digital
0:21:24 > 0:21:28ether like some incontinent cyber-Tom-Cat, then be my guest.
0:21:28 > 0:21:30The Tweeter, Fleecebook and Snapnumpty are ready
0:21:30 > 0:21:31for your witterings.
0:21:31 > 0:21:34We await them with all the appetite of a Gregg's sausage roll
0:21:34 > 0:21:35at a church nativity.
0:21:35 > 0:21:37Festive furry monsters hiding under the bed,
0:21:37 > 0:21:41Paddington Bear frolicking on a snowy roof, even a sausage roll
0:21:41 > 0:21:47replacing the baby Jesus in a bakery nativity scene,
0:21:47 > 0:21:50all brought to you courtesy of a sleigh-load of pixies
0:21:50 > 0:21:51from overpaid advertising agencies.
0:21:51 > 0:21:53Yes, I know.
0:21:53 > 0:21:55Too early.
0:21:55 > 0:21:59But if it's not yet the Christmas season, it is at least the season
0:21:59 > 0:22:02of Christmas adverts, warning us of the impending arrival
0:22:02 > 0:22:06of Santa with all the charm of an egg-nog hangover.
0:22:06 > 0:22:07Mmm!
0:22:07 > 0:22:09Egg-nog.
0:22:09 > 0:22:12So what do you want for Christmas?
0:22:12 > 0:22:14Maybe you'd like a stay on an island especially built to be
0:22:14 > 0:22:15free of politicians.
0:22:15 > 0:22:20Or maybe you'd just like a silent night.
0:22:20 > 0:22:23Fat chance of MPs getting one of those any time soon.
0:22:23 > 0:22:26Adrian Chiles has the week's round-up.
0:22:31 > 0:22:37# Once there was a way...
0:22:37 > 0:22:45Hard Brexit. Really hard Brexit.
0:22:45 > 0:22:46What's under the bed?
0:22:46 > 0:22:50This week, 40 Tory MPs - eight short of the number needed
0:22:50 > 0:22:53to trigger a leadership contest - said they were ready to sign
0:22:53 > 0:22:56a letter of no confidence.
0:22:56 > 0:23:06What a racket. Shut up!
0:23:06 > 0:23:08VOICES: Hard Brexit.
0:23:08 > 0:23:09Ow!
0:23:09 > 0:23:13Oh, it's you, sorry, you all right?
0:23:13 > 0:23:17As if the row made by the rabble of rebels wasn't enough
0:23:17 > 0:23:20for the Prime Minister, she then had to contend with Boris
0:23:20 > 0:23:21and Michael chumming up again.
0:23:21 > 0:23:29This they did by writing an ultra-secret letter.
0:23:29 > 0:23:32Telling her how she should go about Brexit.
0:23:32 > 0:23:34It was so secret, that it went to all the newspapers.
0:23:34 > 0:23:36Shush.
0:23:36 > 0:23:43Do you want a game of Scalextric?
0:23:43 > 0:23:48# Once there was a way...
0:23:48 > 0:23:50Oh, sorry, Moz, could be worse.
0:23:50 > 0:23:58I mean, it could be worse, couldn't it?
0:23:58 > 0:24:00You could be, let's say, a British woman imprisoned
0:24:00 > 0:24:02in an Iranian jail waiting for the Foreign Secretary
0:24:02 > 0:24:05to say something helpful to help you get out.
0:24:05 > 0:24:08But then the Foreign Secretary goes and says that you weren't just
0:24:08 > 0:24:09on holiday in Tehran, you were actually
0:24:09 > 0:24:14teaching journalism.
0:24:14 > 0:24:19Boris apologised, said he had just been misunderstood.
0:24:19 > 0:24:22My remarks on the subject before the Foreign Affairs Select Committee
0:24:22 > 0:24:25could and should have been clearer.
0:24:25 > 0:24:28And I acknowledged that the words I used were open to being
0:24:28 > 0:24:31misinterpreted and I apologise.
0:24:31 > 0:24:34I apologise to Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe and her family if I inadvertently
0:24:34 > 0:24:41caused them any further anguish.
0:24:41 > 0:24:44It does seem that the Foreign Secretary is not quite at the top
0:24:44 > 0:24:49of the Prime Minister's Christmas card list.
0:24:49 > 0:24:52However, for now, it looks like he's not going to get the sack.
0:24:52 > 0:24:55Sorry.
0:24:55 > 0:24:57Anyway, off the Prime Minister went to make a speech
0:24:57 > 0:25:00at the Lord Mayor's banquet.
0:25:00 > 0:25:04For a bit of light relief, she had a go at someone who presents
0:25:04 > 0:25:10not quite as existential threat to her as her own Cabinet.
0:25:10 > 0:25:14Russia has fomented conflict in the Donbass.
0:25:14 > 0:25:19Repeatedly violated the national airspace of several European
0:25:19 > 0:25:21countries and mounted a sustained campaign of cyber-espionage
0:25:21 > 0:25:25and disruption.
0:25:25 > 0:25:28So I have a very simple message for Russia.
0:25:28 > 0:25:30We know what you are doing and you will not succeed.
0:25:32 > 0:25:35Stop it!
0:25:35 > 0:25:42Honestly, it is scary enough having a monster under your bed,
0:25:42 > 0:25:46but it turns out that if you really want to arouse a ghost of Christmas
0:25:46 > 0:25:48past, all you have got to do is table an amendment
0:25:48 > 0:25:51to your own bill on the specific time and date
0:25:51 > 0:25:52of departure from the EU.
0:25:52 > 0:25:53Calm yourself, come on, calm down.
0:25:53 > 0:25:58There are some very serious issues to be settled in this bill
0:25:58 > 0:26:01and I ask the government to reconsider silly amendments
0:26:01 > 0:26:04thrown out because they got a good article in the Daily Telegraph,
0:26:04 > 0:26:08which actually might do harm.
0:26:08 > 0:26:14# Once there was a way...
0:26:14 > 0:26:19The Labour MP Frank Field, who had originally suggested adding
0:26:19 > 0:26:22a deadline to the bill, so he spoke in favour of it.
0:26:22 > 0:26:24Using the analogy that you would not buy a house
0:26:24 > 0:26:28without agreeing an exchange date, this led to an enjoyably
0:26:28 > 0:26:32barbed exchange with a member of his own party.
0:26:32 > 0:26:35I think his analogy of buying a house falls down
0:26:35 > 0:26:36at the first hurdle,
0:26:36 > 0:26:39because nobody commits to a date to buy a house before they know
0:26:39 > 0:26:44what it is they are buying.
0:26:44 > 0:26:49As my right honourable friend was kind to me
0:26:49 > 0:26:51about the house analogy, I have always bought my houses,
0:26:51 > 0:26:55never inherited them.
0:26:55 > 0:26:56I didn't.
0:26:56 > 0:27:00I bought mine, too.
0:27:00 > 0:27:03Comrades, comrades, play nicely.
0:27:03 > 0:27:12# Golden slumbers fill your eyes.
0:27:12 > 0:27:16Somehow the PM has got to find a way of shedding the Brexit monster
0:27:16 > 0:27:18and building some kind of legacy.
0:27:18 > 0:27:23I want to make sure that young generations, new generations,
0:27:23 > 0:27:27can actually have that same opportunity to have their own home,
0:27:27 > 0:27:31to have the house or flat that is going to work for them.
0:27:31 > 0:27:34That's why I think it is so important that the government
0:27:34 > 0:27:37and I are putting our focus on housing.
0:27:37 > 0:27:40And that needs money, of which there isn't
0:27:40 > 0:27:44a great deal about.
0:27:44 > 0:27:47With the budget a week away, Labour's demanding spending
0:27:47 > 0:27:52on public services.
0:27:52 > 0:27:55The great lie behind austerity was that we had no choice,
0:27:55 > 0:27:57that cuts were essential because there was no money.
0:27:57 > 0:28:01Next week, the country does need an emergency budget.
0:28:01 > 0:28:04An emergency budget to alleviate the emergency taking place right now
0:28:04 > 0:28:07in our public services, and also the millions of working
0:28:07 > 0:28:11households in our country struggling to get by.
0:28:11 > 0:28:16The Labour leader used PMQs to demand more public spending
0:28:16 > 0:28:22and tackle the government on tax avoidance.
0:28:22 > 0:28:24Quite simply, isn't the truth that this is a government that
0:28:24 > 0:28:27protects the super rich while the rest of us pick up
0:28:27 > 0:28:32the bill through cuts, austerity, poverty, homelessness,
0:28:32 > 0:28:36low wages and slashing of local services all over the country?
0:28:36 > 0:28:43That is the reality of a Tory government.
0:28:43 > 0:28:46The PM flung that back at him, saying taxes on the rich under
0:28:46 > 0:28:48Labour had actually been lower.
0:28:48 > 0:28:51Oi, Moz, knock it on the head, will you?
0:28:51 > 0:28:54The tax gap is now at its lowest level ever.
0:28:54 > 0:28:59If the tax gap had stayed at the level it was under
0:28:59 > 0:29:02the Labour Party, we would be losing the equivalent of the entire
0:29:02 > 0:29:06police budget for England.
0:29:06 > 0:29:09I say to the right honourable gentleman, he may have given
0:29:09 > 0:29:11momentum to his party, but he brings stagnation
0:29:11 > 0:29:14to the country.
0:29:14 > 0:29:19PMQs doesn't half go on, these days, doesn't it?
0:29:19 > 0:29:20It's past Michael's bedtime, past my bedtime.
0:29:20 > 0:29:21Past Andrew Neil's bedtime.
0:29:21 > 0:29:26Come on, Mr Speaker, have a heart.
0:29:26 > 0:29:32The running of Andrew Neil's programme and his personal
0:29:32 > 0:29:34convenience, or even opinion, is not a material
0:29:34 > 0:29:38factor in my thinking.
0:29:38 > 0:29:42Now, he may say that is absolutely shocking, but I couldn't give
0:29:42 > 0:29:44a flying flamingo what he thinks.
0:29:44 > 0:29:47All right, Moz, in you come.
0:29:47 > 0:29:50No snoring, all right?
0:29:50 > 0:29:57# And I will sing a lullaby.#
0:29:57 > 0:30:04Other Christmas adverts are available to be plagiarised.
0:30:04 > 0:30:07And here's a lovely early Christmas gift for you dear viewers.
0:30:07 > 0:30:14Miranda Green joins us.
0:30:14 > 0:30:18ToBrexit this week descended into a slanging match over whether or not
0:30:18 > 0:30:24the departure time and state should be in the legislation. Is Brexit
0:30:24 > 0:30:29driving us mad?I think it is slightly, on both sides of the
0:30:29 > 0:30:34opinion divide, both sides of the argument. Which is a shame. If you
0:30:34 > 0:30:38look at some of the interesting work that has been done where they have
0:30:38 > 0:30:42got voters from both sides of the argument together, the publics seem
0:30:42 > 0:30:47to want a sensible compromise. But whether we will get that, who knows
0:30:47 > 0:30:50best if you have a compromise which keeps us in a close relationship
0:30:50 > 0:30:57with the single market, you have to take rules from the ECJ. Will that
0:30:57 > 0:31:01satisfy hard-line levers? I can see a situation where even if we get a
0:31:01 > 0:31:06deal, it will not shut down the politics of Brexit over several
0:31:06 > 0:31:12years in the future.Are you trying to cheer me up?I cannot see much
0:31:12 > 0:31:18like at the moment.How serious is the Tory rebellion?Serious in terms
0:31:18 > 0:31:23of numbers but not the issue. Whether the date is in the bill or
0:31:23 > 0:31:27not is completely irrelevant. It is a government amendment to its own
0:31:27 > 0:31:31bill. The government did not think the date was important in the first
0:31:31 > 0:31:35place, so if the legislation passes without the date, it matters not a
0:31:35 > 0:31:40jot. The other thing that does not matter, I think, at all, is the
0:31:40 > 0:31:45money. Brexiteers are getting very worried about the money. In the end,
0:31:45 > 0:31:50there is something which is worth buying, two things. One is the
0:31:50 > 0:31:53return of parliamentary democracy and accountability to Britain, and
0:31:53 > 0:31:57the other is access to the single market. I think the price for those
0:31:57 > 0:32:02two might be very high because they are worth having.Who else pays for
0:32:02 > 0:32:08access to the single market?The others pay by having the
0:32:08 > 0:32:10jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice, which is not acceptable
0:32:10 > 0:32:16to us. Which is why I think we might have to pay.Canada has just
0:32:16 > 0:32:20massively improved its access to the single market. It's not paying
0:32:20 > 0:32:26anything and it is not subject to the ECJ.Icelander, Lichtenstein and
0:32:26 > 0:32:30Norway are subject to the ECJ. I have said this before. I think there
0:32:30 > 0:32:35is a deal to be done but I think it will cost us a bit of money.Do you
0:32:35 > 0:32:45think the government could fall over Brexit?At the moment people are
0:32:45 > 0:32:48talking as if the swing decision-makers are Michael Gove or
0:32:48 > 0:32:53Boris Johnson. My fear is that they are not really the people who will
0:32:53 > 0:32:56drive the government position. All you need is for the Daily Mail and
0:32:56 > 0:33:01the Telegraph to say, it's a betrayal on the amount of money
0:33:01 > 0:33:07which we pay, or if it takes longer than the two years. And I'm afraid
0:33:07 > 0:33:10rather large parts of the Conservative Party would go with
0:33:10 > 0:33:13that Daily Telegraph Daily Mail lead whatever Boris Johnson are Michael
0:33:13 > 0:33:19Gove are saying.Could that bring down the government?I think it is
0:33:19 > 0:33:22impossible for Theresa May to finally do the deal. There would
0:33:22 > 0:33:26have to be a change of leader. The question is, can the Conservative
0:33:26 > 0:33:31Party in their current state manage a transition to a new leader before
0:33:31 > 0:33:36the end of the negotiation, or does collapse into chaos? You can't rule
0:33:36 > 0:33:40that out.I thought the Tory plan was to keep her in the job until she
0:33:40 > 0:33:46does the deal, if she does it, then get rid of her.To do that, she has
0:33:46 > 0:33:51to continue walking this terrible tightrope between two sides of her
0:33:51 > 0:33:55party and two sides of her Cabinet. She did look a bit stronger this
0:33:55 > 0:34:01week.It was her first week without a Cabinet resignation.Indeed. That
0:34:01 > 0:34:06is something to cheer about. But on the Brexit substance it is very
0:34:06 > 0:34:10difficult. She had quite a good line, I thought, in what was
0:34:10 > 0:34:14otherwise a flop of a Florence speech, where she said, we are
0:34:14 > 0:34:19Britain, we pay our way, these are commitments we have made. I think
0:34:19 > 0:34:23you could win the argument with the public. I don't think the money is
0:34:23 > 0:34:27much of a stumbling block as they seem to think, although David Davis
0:34:27 > 0:34:30tonight in Berlin seemed to be saying, I am not going to say
0:34:30 > 0:34:35anything about the money for several weeks, which is a huge problem.At
0:34:35 > 0:34:42any stage during the referendum, do you remember any lever telling us we
0:34:42 > 0:34:48would have to pay to leave?No. But then they did not really agree on
0:34:48 > 0:34:52what the destination was.Aida Dahlen anybody saying we will have
0:34:52 > 0:34:58to pay to leave, but now they sink to think that we do. Why did Boris
0:34:58 > 0:35:03Johnson make such a mess of this very difficult Iranians situation?
0:35:03 > 0:35:06Well, I don't know and I don't want to say anything that might make the
0:35:06 > 0:35:11situation worse. But I assume he did not invent this out of a clear blue
0:35:11 > 0:35:21sky.There is a strange reluctance to apologise. I think you may be
0:35:21 > 0:35:25right that we shouldn't go down that road any further. Because it was
0:35:25 > 0:35:29strange, if he just got it wrong, why wouldn't he immediately just
0:35:29 > 0:35:38apologise? But his critics, in their zeal to do him down, in a sense it
0:35:38 > 0:35:43also let Iran off the hook. For all the floundering, Boris Johnson is
0:35:43 > 0:35:46not the villain. It is the people who have locked up this British
0:35:46 > 0:35:53citizen.That is true but in the end, whatever the reality of, as
0:35:53 > 0:35:56Michael says, if you are the Foreign Secretary, you have to read your
0:35:56 > 0:36:01brief and be on top of the issues. You can't go to select committee and
0:36:01 > 0:36:05not be clear when you are talking about important matters. And I'm
0:36:05 > 0:36:08afraid that Boris Johnson does not really looked to me like he is on
0:36:08 > 0:36:14top of the job. As Foreign Secretary, the idea that he could be
0:36:14 > 0:36:18Prime Minister is staggering.Shares in that are falling quite rapidly, I
0:36:18 > 0:36:28think. Much to Michael, it has cheered him up enormously. Is there
0:36:28 > 0:36:33a slight sign that Boris Johnson has grown into the job of Foreign
0:36:33 > 0:36:37Secretary?It is peculiar because I would say no. Some people, being
0:36:37 > 0:36:42kind about his appointment, thought that perhaps he would. He ought to
0:36:42 > 0:36:46have seen it as an important potential stepping stone on his way
0:36:46 > 0:36:52to being world king. It doesn't seem like that at all. I think this
0:36:52 > 0:36:59mistake of his is unforgivable.It looks like being expensive. He will
0:36:59 > 0:37:05have to take a large cheque.£450 million of debt which we owe to
0:37:05 > 0:37:12Iran.Maybe we can take it out of the Brexit divorce bill.We took 70
0:37:12 > 0:37:15billion out of the public accounts yesterday by redefining Housing
0:37:15 > 0:37:19corporations.Which only two years ago we put into the national
0:37:19 > 0:37:26accounts.It makes you realise that if we paid 60 billion euros to the
0:37:26 > 0:37:31European Union, it can be undone in an accounting change overnight.
0:37:31 > 0:37:34Maybe we should print some more money. Former Chief Secretary and
0:37:34 > 0:37:39former close adviser to the Chancellor, what should be in next
0:37:39 > 0:37:45week's Budget?I would settle for a lack of disaster, I think.You are
0:37:45 > 0:37:49setting a very high bar. The last three have been pretty much a
0:37:49 > 0:37:54disaster.That is rather my point. I have no expectation that there is
0:37:54 > 0:37:59anything he will do, or unfairness, that he can do, to vast lead change
0:37:59 > 0:38:03the direction of the country or to raise the morale of the Conservative
0:38:03 > 0:38:09Party. But if it isn't a mess, that will be OK.I don't think I can
0:38:09 > 0:38:12remember a Budget whether Treasury team and Chancellor have been so
0:38:12 > 0:38:16poor at getting expectations in the right place. In October, he told the
0:38:16 > 0:38:19Sunday Times would be a revolutionary budget, the last
0:38:19 > 0:38:22chance to reset relations with the public. That feels like a long time
0:38:22 > 0:38:28ago. But he allowed this to become, for him, can he save the government?
0:38:28 > 0:38:32Since then the economic and fiscal position has clearly deteriorated.
0:38:32 > 0:38:36If he is going to slash the VAT threshold for salt employed people
0:38:36 > 0:38:43that is a total catastrophe.Tory owners of small businesses are going
0:38:43 > 0:38:47to love that.He can't be going to do that.It will make the National
0:38:47 > 0:38:52Insurance row looked like a storm in a teacup.In the day that I was in
0:38:52 > 0:38:56the Treasury, you could make Budget decisions until the last minute.
0:38:56 > 0:39:01These days, he has to go to the Office for Budget Responsibility ten
0:39:01 > 0:39:04days before. So if things are out there now and the Treasury is not
0:39:04 > 0:39:08knocking them down, it is probably because they are in there. If he
0:39:08 > 0:39:13does that on VAT for the self-employed, cutting the threshold
0:39:13 > 0:39:19down to 20,000, surely he can't do that.We will find out live on BBC
0:39:19 > 0:39:25Two from 11:30am until 3:30pm on Wednesday. Labour and Tories are
0:39:25 > 0:39:29neck and neck in the polls at the moment. Should the Tories be
0:39:29 > 0:39:34comforted by that?I think they should be. If you look at the
0:39:34 > 0:39:38detail, it is fascinating. Almost 20% of people say they would vote
0:39:38 > 0:39:40Tory in the general election but do not agree with anything the
0:39:40 > 0:39:44government is actually doing. If they disagree to that extent and
0:39:44 > 0:39:48they are still not willing to back Corbyn, that is a bit of a comfort
0:39:48 > 0:39:53blanket for the government. It will not get them through the governing
0:39:53 > 0:39:56problems.That was a point well made by Tony Blair the other day, that
0:39:56 > 0:40:03Corbyn ought to be miles ahead.Have we hit peak Corbyn?Lots of people
0:40:03 > 0:40:07are sticking with the Tories because they want to see Brexit delivered.
0:40:07 > 0:40:11It is not clear that they all end up staying with the Conservative Party
0:40:11 > 0:40:18afterwards. Who knows?That's a very good question.Jeremy Corbyn had a
0:40:18 > 0:40:22bad week at PMQs this week and we were surprised by it but a year ago
0:40:22 > 0:40:27it was bad every week.He has had a good run and that does not continue
0:40:27 > 0:40:32indefinitely. He was bound to have a bad week.The Conservative Party
0:40:32 > 0:40:36seems to be so good aching bad news for itself that at the moment Jeremy
0:40:36 > 0:40:41Corbyn is sitting back and letting it happen. When he is more in the
0:40:41 > 0:40:45spotlight, the questions arise.If there is a Budget which unravels,
0:40:45 > 0:40:49that is a disaster for the government this time. They can't
0:40:49 > 0:40:55afford that. No pressure!Miranda, thank you.
0:40:55 > 0:40:58Now you may find this hard to believe when you have people
0:40:58 > 0:41:01like myself, Michael and Ed on TV, but the UK apparently has
0:41:01 > 0:41:02a body image problem.
0:41:02 > 0:41:05Yes, many of us, it seems, have issues with the way we look.
0:41:05 > 0:41:06Young people, too.
0:41:06 > 0:41:07Body dissatisfaction can start as young
0:41:07 > 0:41:10as six, according to a report published this week.
0:41:10 > 0:41:12At its worst, this can lead to depression, anxiety,
0:41:12 > 0:41:14and conditions like bulimia.
0:41:14 > 0:41:18And from prime-time TV to magazines, to the adverts
0:41:18 > 0:41:22on your local bus, these images are virtually impossible to escape.
0:41:22 > 0:41:25That's why we're putting body image in this week's Spotlight.
0:41:37 > 0:41:40In a week when I'm a celebrity and its prurient
0:41:40 > 0:41:41shower scenes returns...
0:41:41 > 0:41:42Jesus Christ.
0:41:42 > 0:41:44..we ask, does Britain have a body image problem?
0:41:44 > 0:41:45It's a jungle out there.
0:41:45 > 0:41:46Really.
0:41:46 > 0:41:50What I had to do was have a shower and basically as the water fell
0:41:50 > 0:41:53on me it then was removed from the tank which was
0:41:53 > 0:41:57activating a pulley system which was holding Jay.
0:41:57 > 0:42:00Our televisions and phones are replete with such images,
0:42:00 > 0:42:03and the Youth Select Committee says enough is enough.
0:42:03 > 0:42:05If you take a selfie and nobody likes it,
0:42:05 > 0:42:08you just feel it puts you down.
0:42:08 > 0:42:11Some try and lose a lot of weight, build muscle, to fit
0:42:11 > 0:42:19into what society deems as the perfect body image.
0:42:19 > 0:42:23With new guidelines, is the Church ahead of the state on this issue?
0:42:23 > 0:42:26It's about giving schools guidance and recommendations about how
0:42:26 > 0:42:31they ensure that their schools eradicate any form of bullying
0:42:31 > 0:42:33whatsoever in their schools, and particularly focused
0:42:33 > 0:42:37on homophobic and transphobic bullying.
0:42:37 > 0:42:38Hello, everybody.
0:42:38 > 0:42:41Even the stars of the internet are feeling the need for reform,
0:42:41 > 0:42:44as beauty blogger Zoella faces criticism for a series of body
0:42:44 > 0:42:52shaming tweets from 2009 until 201.
0:42:52 > 0:42:54But Philip Davies is worried that all this touchy-feely politics has
0:42:54 > 0:42:56triggered a witchhunt.
0:42:56 > 0:42:58Militant feminists have tried to close down any talk about men
0:42:58 > 0:43:01and women being treated equally, and so in order to try
0:43:01 > 0:43:04and close down the debate, they hurl abuse at the people
0:43:04 > 0:43:08who raise these issues.
0:43:08 > 0:43:10So, progress on all fronts, or an affront to decency?
0:43:10 > 0:43:12Historian Bettany Hughes is with us to discuss body
0:43:12 > 0:43:21image in modern Britain.
0:43:21 > 0:43:29Welcome, Bettany.
0:43:29 > 0:43:33Have we, in modern times, have we always had this concern about body
0:43:33 > 0:43:39image, or is it reaching new peaks? I think there is a bit of a perfect
0:43:39 > 0:43:43storm at the moment because sometime around the 90s, it became acceptable
0:43:43 > 0:43:48to the obsessed with your body. As a species we have always been
0:43:48 > 0:43:52interested now bodies, delighted in our bodies. If you go back to
0:43:52 > 0:43:56prehistory, we created figurines of ourselves and there were beauty
0:43:56 > 0:44:00contests in ancient Greece. Sometime in the 90s, everybody said it is
0:44:00 > 0:44:05fine to be vain. There was a time when people said don't be so vain.
0:44:05 > 0:44:11There was even a song.There was a song. That happened, and then there
0:44:11 > 0:44:15was a moment when kids were given mechanical tools which meant they
0:44:15 > 0:44:19could share images, they were bombarded with images. So you get a
0:44:19 > 0:44:22philosophical shift in society and a mechanical shift that means images
0:44:22 > 0:44:28are everywhere.And we reached this youth select committee report which
0:44:28 > 0:44:32says children as young as six have become obsessed with their image and
0:44:32 > 0:44:37suffer from depression. I haven't read anything more depressing
0:44:37 > 0:44:43four-year is.It is so depressing. We all experienced playground
0:44:43 > 0:44:46bullies, and suddenly you have a thousand playground bullies and they
0:44:46 > 0:44:50are wearing cloaks of invisibility and they are in your pocket saying,
0:44:50 > 0:44:55you are ugly, fat, the wrong shape, size, colour. Something seriously
0:44:55 > 0:44:59fundamental has to be done and we have two in Courage children to
0:44:59 > 0:45:02realise, without sounding too hippy about it, that beauty is within, not
0:45:02 > 0:45:08without.
0:45:08 > 0:45:13I suggest the media has some responsibility because a lot of
0:45:13 > 0:45:19pictures of celebrities, models, even though to most ordinary folk,
0:45:19 > 0:45:28they look already amazing, but there are electronic ways of making them
0:45:28 > 0:45:34look more perfect.That is the image makers who play a big part because
0:45:34 > 0:45:38there is a commercial imperative. You have beautiful people selling
0:45:38 > 0:45:43products to kids of all ages, and they have to put a range of images
0:45:43 > 0:45:48out there. You ask if it is a modern issue. It has been going on at least
0:45:48 > 0:45:552500 years. That is why there is a lot of catching up to do and you get
0:45:55 > 0:45:59a moment in the classical world when suddenly naked images of women are
0:45:59 > 0:46:06everywhere and it is confusing for men in society at that time because
0:46:06 > 0:46:09there were naked images of women everywhere and they are told to look
0:46:09 > 0:46:15at these gorgeous images, but women's bodies are to be feared,
0:46:15 > 0:46:24conquered, controlled, and I see that as a consistent trope.Whereas
0:46:24 > 0:46:29in the 90s and the decade after, the body image was an issue for perhaps
0:46:29 > 0:46:35younger women, it has become an issue for young men, they feel
0:46:35 > 0:46:40pressured.Completely. Young men often apparently used 12 kinds of
0:46:40 > 0:46:45products on their body and hair and faces every day. This does not
0:46:45 > 0:46:50divide society in terms of gender, we have all got to deal with it
0:46:50 > 0:46:56because we cannot have kids aged six having mental health issues.
0:46:56 > 0:47:05Michael, it is depressing? Extremely and I feel sorry for these children.
0:47:05 > 0:47:09I think better knee is optimistic in saying these are issues we have to
0:47:09 > 0:47:19deal with, I do not know -- Bettany. There seems to be a uniform concept
0:47:19 > 0:47:25of what is the perfect body and I do not think you will have our
0:47:25 > 0:47:31advertisers throwing out different kinds of bodies as though they are
0:47:31 > 0:47:36content to...The issue, some things adults and parents deal with, like
0:47:36 > 0:47:40crossing the road, bullying, but the problem when you get to issues of
0:47:40 > 0:47:45body image, it has changed in generation. Parents often think
0:47:45 > 0:47:48their kids look beautiful and do not understand the kids themselves do
0:47:48 > 0:47:53not feel that way and it is something the adults have to start
0:47:53 > 0:47:57talking about with the right kind of messages to kids from a young age.
0:47:57 > 0:48:02We are not doing that because we do not get it and we have to get on the
0:48:02 > 0:48:08programme.You have a new TV show?I have, about the goddess Venus and
0:48:08 > 0:48:16images of women. It went out last night and it is now on BBC iPlayer.
0:48:16 > 0:48:17Good to see you.
0:48:17 > 0:48:18And there you have it.
0:48:18 > 0:48:21We're off for a jungle-themed party at Loulou's in honour
0:48:21 > 0:48:23of Stanley Johnson's decision to grace I'm A Celebrity
0:48:23 > 0:48:25Get Me Out of Here.
0:48:25 > 0:48:31Yes, Michael's wearing his Tarzan thong, again, and Ed's had
0:48:31 > 0:48:35the stains taken out of his ballroom gorilla costume, all to pay tribute
0:48:35 > 0:48:37to Boris's intrepid father, whose ability to live off his son's
0:48:37 > 0:48:41name clearly knows no bounds.
0:48:41 > 0:48:42It's a family trait.
0:48:42 > 0:48:43Clearly in the genes.
0:48:43 > 0:48:46We have only one piece of advice.
0:48:46 > 0:48:49Don't eat the bush tucker entrees.
0:48:49 > 0:48:55There's no telling what you'll get stuck in your dentures.
0:48:55 > 0:48:58Speaking of which, we leave you with a taste of a Nando's advert
0:48:58 > 0:48:59withdrawn after its Zimbabwean workers received death
0:48:59 > 0:49:01threats back in 2011.
0:49:01 > 0:49:04I wonder why.
0:49:04 > 0:49:14Night-night, don't let the spicy chicken bite.
0:49:19 > 0:49:24# Those were the days, my friend
0:49:24 > 0:49:29# We thought they'd never end
0:49:29 > 0:49:33# We'd sing and dance for ever and a day
0:49:33 > 0:49:35# We'd live the life we choose
0:49:35 > 0:49:40# We'd fight and never lose
0:49:40 > 0:49:50# We were young and sure to have our way
0:49:51 > 0:49:57# Those were the days, my friend
0:49:57 > 0:50:02# We thought they'd never end
0:50:02 > 0:50:08# We'd sing and dance for ever and a day.#