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0:00:10 > 0:00:19Be prepared for highly offensive language and adult themes.

0:00:19 > 0:00:26Political Big Brother is back. Yes, it's Dave four in the Downing Street

0:00:26 > 0:00:30house, and confusion reigns. Has anyone been evicted?I can't believe

0:00:30 > 0:00:34Michael Gove wouldn't move, and what about Justine having to go, it's

0:00:34 > 0:00:40ridiculous.Did public opinion or mob rule leads to Toby Young's

0:00:40 > 0:00:45decision to quit his new job. Stanley Johnson is in our happy

0:00:45 > 0:00:53house.Has anyone got wifi login?In the Diary Room, James Delingpole has

0:00:53 > 0:00:59been confessing Truelove, but for whom?President Trump is amazing. I

0:00:59 > 0:01:04want him to stay forever in the Big Brother house.Will anyone walk out

0:01:04 > 0:01:12when we pump up the volume?Let's hope Andrew walks out.Yeah, he's

0:01:12 > 0:01:17really irritating.Nominate and evict on This Week.

0:01:17 > 0:01:18Evenin' all.

0:01:18 > 0:01:19Welcome to This Week.

0:01:19 > 0:01:22And the more astute among you who were not in a permanent

0:01:22 > 0:01:24Blue Nun haze over the festive season, will have noticed

0:01:24 > 0:01:27that a loser lickspittle of the mainstream media has just

0:01:27 > 0:01:30published a farrago of lies and inventions about me.

0:01:30 > 0:01:32Since I'm better with pictures than words,

0:01:32 > 0:01:34I had to have the wife read it to me.

0:01:34 > 0:01:36This seemed to give her an inordinate pleasure,

0:01:36 > 0:01:38which somewhat baffled me, as did the thick east

0:01:38 > 0:01:42European accent.

0:01:42 > 0:01:44After all, the book makes me out to be thicker

0:01:44 > 0:01:47than Jack Thick McThick the year he won the Thick Man

0:01:47 > 0:01:49of the Year Competition, also claiming I'm a sandwich short

0:01:49 > 0:01:53of a picnic and two stairs short of an attic.

0:01:53 > 0:01:54But how is this double-shuffling, honeyfugling, hornswoggler

0:01:54 > 0:01:57of a journalist in a position to say that?

0:01:57 > 0:02:03He's only known me since we were in primary school together

0:02:03 > 0:02:06and he's only been beside me every waking hour for the past year.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09Come to think of it, he did spend some nights

0:02:09 > 0:02:11at the bottom of the bed too.

0:02:11 > 0:02:15Even so, he doesn't know me the way the people know me and you know I'm

0:02:15 > 0:02:19so smart I'm bordering on genius.

0:02:19 > 0:02:22In fact, strike the word bordering.

0:02:22 > 0:02:24Or I'll build a wall.

0:02:24 > 0:02:26Anyway, I called my Britisher friend Mother Theresa,

0:02:26 > 0:02:30who's always ready to hold my hand when fake news surrounds me.

0:02:30 > 0:02:34She said not to trust the This Week team, who've clearly spoken

0:02:34 > 0:02:38bigly to this loser, loser, loser of an author,

0:02:38 > 0:02:41who I've never met, and to announce an immediate reshuffle of the team,

0:02:41 > 0:02:45including some public sackings.

0:02:45 > 0:02:49Then to make absolutely no changes whatsoever.

0:02:49 > 0:02:52That will baffle everybody, said Mother Theresa.

0:02:52 > 0:02:54It worked for me, she added.

0:02:54 > 0:02:56So I did.

0:02:56 > 0:02:57And she's right.

0:02:57 > 0:02:58Nobody has a clue what I'm doing.

0:02:58 > 0:02:59Not even me.

0:02:59 > 0:03:02If that's not genius I don't know what is.

0:03:02 > 0:03:05Speaking of those to whom the appellation "literary

0:03:05 > 0:03:09giant" has never been applied, I'm joined on the sofa tonight by one

0:03:09 > 0:03:12man who's written so many books about himself that there's nothing

0:03:12 > 0:03:15left to say for any biographer.

0:03:15 > 0:03:18And another to whom only a particularly deranged

0:03:18 > 0:03:22biographer would be attracted.

0:03:22 > 0:03:25Which explains why his Boswell is Michael Gove.

0:03:25 > 0:03:26I speak, of course, of

0:03:26 > 0:03:34Michael #sadmanonatrain Portillo and Alan #sadmanontheleft Johnson.

0:03:39 > 0:03:45Happy new year. Great to see you back. Your moment of the week?

0:03:45 > 0:03:49Whatever frightful things Toby Young might have said, I was upset to see

0:03:49 > 0:03:55him driven out by an online mob, an online witchhunt, an online sale. I

0:03:55 > 0:04:00don't think it was really because of the things he said. I think it was a

0:04:00 > 0:04:03partisan operation because there was no similar operation about John

0:04:03 > 0:04:09McDonnell and the very bad things he has said about Esther McVey. I was

0:04:09 > 0:04:13equally upset that Virgin Trains has banned the Daily Mail. I dislike the

0:04:13 > 0:04:20Daily Mail intensely and have campaigned against it.Campaign to

0:04:20 > 0:04:24ban it?Campaign that it should not influence the Tory party too much. I

0:04:24 > 0:04:28just think every day we are moving towards a world which is less

0:04:28 > 0:04:34diverse, less tolerant, less just, actually less safe, to use that word

0:04:34 > 0:04:38much used by the left, because it is very, very important that we should

0:04:38 > 0:04:43not be allowed to ostracise people and things of which we disapprove.

0:04:43 > 0:04:50That is a clear moment. Yours? Cressida Dick, the fairly new

0:04:50 > 0:04:53Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, continues to impress me. She

0:04:53 > 0:04:57told the London authority last week that we should treat knife crime,

0:04:57 > 0:05:01which is an epidemic, as a public health issue. There was press

0:05:01 > 0:05:04coverage but there was puzzlement at what she meant. She meant this is

0:05:04 > 0:05:09something where the NHS, social services and education should work

0:05:09 > 0:05:12together to prevent, as well as the sentencing and all that, stop and

0:05:12 > 0:05:17search, they should work together to prevent it. Three young men in

0:05:17 > 0:05:22London were knifed to death on New Year's Eve. That made 80 in London

0:05:22 > 0:05:29for the year. That is a 30% increase. In the rest of Britain

0:05:29 > 0:05:33there were 35. There were none in Scotland. Scotland introduced this,

0:05:33 > 0:05:39treating knife crime is a public health issue, in 2005. In Glasgow,

0:05:39 > 0:05:42one of what used to be the most dangerous places, not a single knife

0:05:42 > 0:05:47death last year. I am glad Cressida Dick is leading on this, but we do

0:05:47 > 0:05:52not -- if we do not learn from the Scottish experience, we will have

0:05:52 > 0:05:57more of these statistics.Two excellent moments, a good start. You

0:05:57 > 0:06:00are not the first person who has said they are impressed by the new

0:06:00 > 0:06:05chief of police in London. As a former Home Secretary, what you say

0:06:05 > 0:06:08carries some weight on that.

0:06:08 > 0:06:09"In Defence of Trump".

0:06:09 > 0:06:11Not words you hear every day, especially on this side of Atlantic.

0:06:11 > 0:06:13The default mainstream position towards the President

0:06:13 > 0:06:15is a combination of despair, horror and grim, even

0:06:15 > 0:06:16embarrassed fascination.

0:06:16 > 0:06:19Just when you think things can't get any more farcical,

0:06:19 > 0:06:21he tells us of his genius and boasts about the size

0:06:21 > 0:06:22of his nuclear button.

0:06:22 > 0:06:25But he's still there, the US economy is growing fast,

0:06:25 > 0:06:27the stock market is at an all-time high and unemployment

0:06:27 > 0:06:30at modern record lows.

0:06:30 > 0:06:34He's managed the first major tax reform since Reagan and even

0:06:34 > 0:06:39North Korea's Rocket Man is now inclined to talk.

0:06:39 > 0:06:40So are we overdoing the anti-Trump hysteria?

0:06:40 > 0:06:43Are we suckers for the Trump circus while ignoring the substance?

0:06:43 > 0:06:47Is there any substance?

0:06:47 > 0:06:55Here's journalist James Delingpole with his Take of the Week.

0:07:04 > 0:07:06He's a laughing stock.

0:07:06 > 0:07:07His hair is a mess.

0:07:07 > 0:07:08No, it's a wig.

0:07:08 > 0:07:13He can't string a sentence together, yet we can't stop quoting him.

0:07:13 > 0:07:15Somehow, though, this clown managed to become President

0:07:15 > 0:07:21of the United States.

0:07:21 > 0:07:23Let's cut the crap.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25Donald Trump is amazing.

0:07:25 > 0:07:28The US economy is going gangbusters.

0:07:28 > 0:07:30The Dow is soaring.

0:07:30 > 0:07:33Growth is over 3%.

0:07:33 > 0:07:36Hourly wages are 2.5% higher than this time last year.

0:07:36 > 0:07:42Unemployment for African Americans is at record lows.

0:07:42 > 0:07:45And after Trump's sweeping tax reforms, something that lesser

0:07:45 > 0:07:48Republicans have been trying and failing to achieve for years,

0:07:48 > 0:07:53we can expect massive growth ahead.

0:07:53 > 0:07:57And because he's so frank and fearless, he's even dared

0:07:57 > 0:08:03to take on the green crazies.

0:08:03 > 0:08:05He's brushed off all their scaremongering nonsense

0:08:05 > 0:08:07and told it like it is.

0:08:07 > 0:08:10Global warming is just an excuse to bomb the global economy

0:08:10 > 0:08:14back to the dark ages.

0:08:14 > 0:08:16Au revoir, Paris climate accord.

0:08:16 > 0:08:24Hello, freedom, scientific integrity and prosperity.

0:08:26 > 0:08:29President Trump is on a mission to make the world great again.

0:08:29 > 0:08:32He's crushed Isis, he's blown the Middle East peace

0:08:32 > 0:08:36process back on course.

0:08:36 > 0:08:39And, as the President of South Korea said this week,

0:08:39 > 0:08:42he deserves big credit for bringing North and South Korea back

0:08:42 > 0:08:48to the negotiating table.

0:08:48 > 0:08:51So is President Donald Trump really an idiot?

0:08:51 > 0:08:59Well, if he is, he's the luckiest idiot in presidential history.

0:09:00 > 0:09:03Our thanks to Porter's Barbers in East Dulwich.

0:09:03 > 0:09:07We promise not to send Donald Trump there again!

0:09:07 > 0:09:15The hair-raising James Delingpole joins me now.

0:09:16 > 0:09:20If Mr Trump is doing better than most of us think on this side of the

0:09:20 > 0:09:24Atlantic, and actually doing really well in your view in so many fields,

0:09:24 > 0:09:30why are his personal ratings so bad in America?Do you know what, I

0:09:30 > 0:09:34don't care what his personal ratings are doing. I care about what he is

0:09:34 > 0:09:38achieving so far. It seems possible that he is going to achieve

0:09:38 > 0:09:42something no President has achieved... They have been trying to

0:09:42 > 0:09:47achieve it for years, bringing about peace in the Middle East. He has

0:09:47 > 0:09:50been negotiating with Israel and Saudi Arabia and it looks like his

0:09:50 > 0:09:54policies are helping the revolution in Iran as well.We are in the

0:09:54 > 0:09:59foothills of any new peace process. I totally agree, this is the

0:09:59 > 0:10:03beginning. In the same way with North and South Korea. He got so

0:10:03 > 0:10:06much stick for his alleged warmongering gestures towards North

0:10:06 > 0:10:12Korea.If he is bringing peace on Earth, Utopia to the American

0:10:12 > 0:10:17economy, our money where there was once discord, why at this stage in

0:10:17 > 0:10:21his presidency does he have lower ratings among the American people

0:10:21 > 0:10:26than any recent President at this stage in the cycle?Maybe it is

0:10:26 > 0:10:29because if you want to get stuff done, you have to be prepared to be

0:10:29 > 0:10:34disliked. Think about Margaret Thatcher. She was very divisive,

0:10:34 > 0:10:41wasn't she, but she got stuff done? Trump is a Marmite character. Some

0:10:41 > 0:10:45people, for example, think his use of Twitter is inappropriate for a

0:10:45 > 0:10:50President, but my god it is effective.Are we in danger, on both

0:10:50 > 0:10:54sides of the Atlantic in the political classes and the media, of

0:10:54 > 0:11:00concentrating too much on the froth, the Twitter, the histrionics of the

0:11:00 > 0:11:06Trump presidency, and ignoring the substance?Yes, probably. Because

0:11:06 > 0:11:11every time there is a reaction against Trump, core support, which

0:11:11 > 0:11:16have elected him because of his role as an outsider. There is a

0:11:16 > 0:11:19resemblance to Corbyn in that respect, that this is someone who

0:11:19 > 0:11:25breaks all the rules and is different, etc. Then the Liberal

0:11:25 > 0:11:34elite, which would be all of us, I guess...Not James. Pre-1.The more

0:11:34 > 0:11:39we throw rocks at him, the better he looks. But what you have to look at

0:11:39 > 0:11:44is what has he actually done? What has been his contribution to the

0:11:44 > 0:11:50upsurge in the American economy? What has he introduced? He has not

0:11:50 > 0:11:53introduced the wall. He has not been able to ban Muslims, which he said

0:11:53 > 0:11:59he would do. There is a projection from the previous presidency as

0:11:59 > 0:12:04well. These things did not start on January one, and the world economy

0:12:04 > 0:12:09has improved, the EU economy has improved. When the world economy

0:12:09 > 0:12:14picks up, the US economy picks up.I love hearing you criticise him for

0:12:14 > 0:12:18not building the wall.What I mean is his campaign promises, campaign

0:12:18 > 0:12:26promises.He gave an interview today which has just come out. He is still

0:12:26 > 0:12:29talking about the wall and he is saying he is going to renegotiate

0:12:29 > 0:12:33the Nafta deal, the free trade deal with Mexico and Canada and America

0:12:33 > 0:12:37will be quids Inn and that will pay for the wall, so it has not gone

0:12:37 > 0:12:43away yet.Lets see if he achieves that.The US economy is growing

0:12:43 > 0:12:50quickly, gathering speed since last year. As James says, unemployment

0:12:50 > 0:12:55among American blacks is now about 8% and falling. It has not been 8%

0:12:55 > 0:13:00four years and years and years. I had not realised until I saw that.

0:13:00 > 0:13:04The stock market is soaring. All that will probably matter more to

0:13:04 > 0:13:11his tweets that we in the media seem to be obsessed with.I am surprised

0:13:11 > 0:13:15James did not give this answer to your previous question. The personal

0:13:15 > 0:13:18ratings are emitted a real because he will face re-election in about

0:13:18 > 0:13:22three years. If the American economy is going like this at them moment,

0:13:22 > 0:13:25and if it is having this impact on unemployment at the moment, and if

0:13:25 > 0:13:31it has an impact on real standards of living, then all of those things

0:13:31 > 0:13:35are likely to add up to President Trump being re-elected, if that is

0:13:35 > 0:13:39what he chooses. I am not at all sure he will choose to be a

0:13:39 > 0:13:44candidate.He will if he thinks he can win.There is also a possibility

0:13:44 > 0:13:48that he will fall along the wayside for one reason or another. I want to

0:13:48 > 0:13:52pay tribute to James, because whenever there is a Republican in

0:13:52 > 0:13:56the White House, the British media falls into extraordinary laziness.

0:13:56 > 0:14:01They simply dismiss as moronic everything that any Republican

0:14:01 > 0:14:06President says. This was true of both the Bush presidents, true of

0:14:06 > 0:14:12Reagan, and it is lazy journalism. One has to try to understand

0:14:12 > 0:14:16American presidents in the context of the American people. You have to

0:14:16 > 0:14:24understand why this person was elected.Do you accept that many on

0:14:24 > 0:14:28the wane -- on the mainstream right, forget the left-wing critics, and

0:14:28 > 0:14:35even centre left liberals, but many on the mainstream right, when

0:14:36 > 0:14:40mainstream Republicans required Mr Trump is unfit to be president?Yes,

0:14:40 > 0:14:44and I think they are part of the problem. This is why what Trump is

0:14:44 > 0:14:50achieved is remarkable. It isn't just fighting the Democrats but the

0:14:50 > 0:14:53GOP, is own party. He is fighting the media. But I totally agree with

0:14:53 > 0:15:00your point about Ronald Reagan. I was at school when Ronald Reagan

0:15:00 > 0:15:03became president. I vividly remember how everyone said he was a dumb

0:15:03 > 0:15:09cowboy, how he was unfit to be president, all the same thing. I

0:15:09 > 0:15:13think Trump will be recognised as one of the great presidents.James

0:15:13 > 0:15:15is kind of over egging his achievements, because there haven't

0:15:15 > 0:15:22been any, because the tax reform is there. You can be for or against it,

0:15:22 > 0:15:26but is the biggest tax reform since Reagan. On foreign policy, despite

0:15:26 > 0:15:30all of the Gloucester and the rocket man, he said in the Wall Street

0:15:30 > 0:15:34Journal tonight that he has actually got a good relationship with Kim

0:15:34 > 0:15:38Jong-un in North Korea. And that he encouraged North Korea to come to

0:15:38 > 0:15:45the Winter Olympics in South Korea. Again, it makes me wonder, because

0:15:45 > 0:15:49you can see things that Mr Trump says, and you shake your head in

0:15:49 > 0:15:53disbelief that this is coming out of the White House in the greatest and

0:15:53 > 0:15:58biggest democracy in the world but, when you look at the actual policy,

0:15:58 > 0:16:02North Korea is going to the South Korea Olympics, and they are going

0:16:02 > 0:16:06to march into ever, iron told, and unlike Mr bush or other previous

0:16:06 > 0:16:11presidents, he hasn't declared war and invaded anywhere else.If you

0:16:11 > 0:16:17want to give him credit for what Tim Jonny Hill has done -- Kim Jong-un

0:16:17 > 0:16:22has done, it changed the election in South Korea where someone the --

0:16:22 > 0:16:25suddenly there was a president keen to establish a relationship with

0:16:25 > 0:16:30North Korea, and you could argue that Kim Jong-il -- Kim Jong-un has

0:16:30 > 0:16:34been strengthened by Trump's blustered and now feels able to the

0:16:34 > 0:16:38next stage. If you look at what he has done the climate change

0:16:38 > 0:16:42agreement, which he might opt back into, with the Iran deal, the

0:16:42 > 0:16:48nuclear deal, which I think is very important, and all the do...He

0:16:48 > 0:16:53backed the Iranian demonstrators, which only hasn't done,.We are

0:16:53 > 0:16:58talking about Trump, not coping at the moment. In terms of his

0:16:58 > 0:17:02interventions, to pull out of that Iranian deal, on all of those

0:17:02 > 0:17:06fronts, and on the Middle East, I'm afraid he could have the best peace

0:17:06 > 0:17:10plan in the world but, if America is seen as being suddenly partial

0:17:10 > 0:17:15rather than impartial, they are not going to be able to bring the sides

0:17:15 > 0:17:21together.It's always known to be pro-Israel, under Democrat and

0:17:21 > 0:17:30republican.But the Senate wanted to be the honest brokers.People still

0:17:30 > 0:17:35get worried, Michael, when there is a president who seems, he is, the

0:17:35 > 0:17:40most powerful in the world, running the most powerful country, in one of

0:17:40 > 0:17:47the most taxing jobs known to man or woman, and he seems to spend most of

0:17:47 > 0:17:53his time watching television and tweeting about it.Gorillas. The

0:17:53 > 0:18:00gorilla channel. Read the book.I find that worrying, but I think one

0:18:00 > 0:18:06of the things that the Michael Wolff book says to me is that the first

0:18:06 > 0:18:08year was characterised by pandemonium, in which a very large

0:18:08 > 0:18:11number of unsuitable people were in the White House, mainly making war

0:18:11 > 0:18:17with each other. And most of those people, including Steve Bannon, have

0:18:17 > 0:18:21fallen by the wayside. And now the government appears to be run mainly

0:18:21 > 0:18:25by rather good generals as opposed to the rather bad general he had to

0:18:25 > 0:18:30begin with. And therefore I suspect that, whatever Trump may be saying,

0:18:30 > 0:18:33the government is now in rather better hands than it was six months

0:18:33 > 0:18:39ago.Would he be fatally wounded with a bad election result in the

0:18:39 > 0:18:41crucial midterms in November? Reed what do you think is going to

0:18:41 > 0:18:48happen? You could lose the house and get in the Senate is narrow. In the

0:18:48 > 0:18:51house, that would open the door to impeachment.He is fighting tooth

0:18:51 > 0:18:56and nail to preserve this presidency. And I'm afraid this is

0:18:56 > 0:19:04how the left roles in America, as in Britain. They don't like the fact

0:19:04 > 0:19:06that they've got Trump, a Conservative Trump president in

0:19:06 > 0:19:11power. They will do everything to unseat him, even if it means using

0:19:11 > 0:19:20the legal system.The conservative don't think he is a conservative. Do

0:19:20 > 0:19:24you think he will run again?I think he will if he is winning, and I

0:19:24 > 0:19:28think he will be at the of a second term.A different point of view from

0:19:28 > 0:19:32what we normally hear, not right or wrong, but it's different, and we

0:19:32 > 0:19:34like that. Thank you.

0:19:34 > 0:19:36Now it's late - Barack and Dave late.

0:19:36 > 0:19:39Except that it's now being claimed that the bromance between our former

0:19:39 > 0:19:41PM and America's former President was a sham.

0:19:41 > 0:19:43Is nothing sacred these days?

0:19:43 > 0:19:46It's even claimed that Call-Me-Dave thought Barack one of the "most

0:19:46 > 0:19:50narcissistic and self-absorbed people" he'd ever met.

0:19:50 > 0:19:54And he was at Eton with Boris Johnson!

0:19:54 > 0:19:58But the words come from Mr Cameron's very own former Mr Blue Sky Thinker,

0:19:58 > 0:20:01Steve Hilton, who has a TV show to fill in America and scores

0:20:01 > 0:20:05to settle with his former boss.

0:20:05 > 0:20:07Call-Me-Dave's spinners are putting it about that Blue Sky Steve

0:20:07 > 0:20:09is the real narcissist.

0:20:09 > 0:20:11When pals fall out, eh?

0:20:11 > 0:20:14Of course, my little joke about Boris has no basis in fact.

0:20:14 > 0:20:17It is well known across the length and breadth of the land

0:20:17 > 0:20:21that there are no egos or self-obsession anywhere

0:20:21 > 0:20:25in the Johnson clan, which is why we've invited his shy,

0:20:25 > 0:20:31self-effacing dad Stanley to put Twitter in the Spotlight.

0:20:31 > 0:20:34And talking of anti-social media you can of course, if you must,

0:20:34 > 0:20:37contact us on the Tweeter, the Fleecebook and

0:20:37 > 0:20:39good old SnapNumpty.

0:20:39 > 0:20:42But we never look at any of it and our Spectrum 500

0:20:42 > 0:20:44is on permanent delete mode.

0:20:44 > 0:20:48So why not do yourself a favour and make it a New Year's resolution

0:20:48 > 0:20:52to give up your cyber-whining and wittering?

0:20:52 > 0:20:55British actor Gary Oldman picked up a Golden Globe in Hollywood this

0:20:55 > 0:20:57week for his portrayal of Winston Churchill in

0:20:57 > 0:21:00the new feature film Darkest Hour.

0:21:00 > 0:21:04I'm told they're now working on Darkest Hour 2,

0:21:04 > 0:21:07the story of a MayBot that mysteriously became Prime Minister

0:21:07 > 0:21:10and was immediately pitched into a series of gargantuan

0:21:10 > 0:21:14struggles - from a failed election campaign and a brutal Brexit

0:21:14 > 0:21:18to a reshuffle shambles and a crisis in the NHS.

0:21:18 > 0:21:22Challenges that would surely have done for any human.

0:21:22 > 0:21:26But clearly machines are made of sterner stuff, and as we speak

0:21:26 > 0:21:28tonight it's still fighting on all fronts.

0:21:28 > 0:21:30Here's Isabel Hardman with the latest dispatch

0:21:30 > 0:21:33from the war zone.

0:21:56 > 0:21:59Parliament was back this week and the PM returned to the fray full

0:21:59 > 0:22:01of the Dunkirk spirit, ready to relaunch her

0:22:01 > 0:22:03government with a reshuffle.

0:22:03 > 0:22:06Who's in and who's out?

0:22:06 > 0:22:12The trouble is, it didn't seem to be entirely up to her.

0:22:22 > 0:22:25She couldn't tinker with the top jobs, obviously.

0:22:25 > 0:22:27But, hey, there were still plenty of important roles to be filled,

0:22:27 > 0:22:31like the role of party chairman.

0:22:31 > 0:22:32Chris Grayling!

0:22:32 > 0:22:34Oh, no, sorry.

0:22:34 > 0:22:36Brandon Lewis.

0:22:36 > 0:22:39And there were big changes afoot at Health and Business.

0:22:39 > 0:22:42Oh, no, they refused to move.

0:22:42 > 0:22:44But she moved Justine Greening from Education to...

0:22:44 > 0:22:46Oh, no, wait...

0:22:46 > 0:22:50Greening resigned.

0:22:50 > 0:22:54V for virtually the same?

0:22:54 > 0:22:56The Prime Minister has balanced it very well.

0:22:56 > 0:22:59We've got some stability at Cabinet level and we've got some new blood

0:22:59 > 0:23:02coming through into the other layers of government, so I think

0:23:02 > 0:23:05the balancing act she's got right.

0:23:05 > 0:23:07As if Cabinet colleagues aren't bad enough, someone else the PM can't

0:23:07 > 0:23:09get rid of is Nigel Farage.

0:23:09 > 0:23:11Nigel feels that the Brexit negotiations aren't holding

0:23:11 > 0:23:16up to the Leave vote.

0:23:16 > 0:23:18So he headed to Brussels for some guerilla negotiating

0:23:18 > 0:23:21with Michel Barnier.

0:23:21 > 0:23:23Did you bring him a present?

0:23:23 > 0:23:24No.

0:23:24 > 0:23:26We're not going through all that, though football shirts,

0:23:26 > 0:23:27nothing like that.

0:23:27 > 0:23:29I don't expect anything in return.

0:23:29 > 0:23:31What I have brought him are some questions that have come

0:23:31 > 0:23:34from 17.4 million people, a small sample of them, I agree,

0:23:34 > 0:23:36and there's just this feeling that the 17.4 million voted

0:23:36 > 0:23:39for border controls, did not vote for a transitional deal,

0:23:39 > 0:23:47and that their view to date has not been represented yet.

0:23:47 > 0:23:50One way of dealing with the noisy Brexiteers is to keep them busy,

0:23:50 > 0:23:53preferably for the next 25 years.

0:23:53 > 0:23:55The Prime Minister has recycled Michael Gove

0:23:55 > 0:23:57as Environment Secretary, and sent him forth with

0:23:57 > 0:23:59the government's 25-year plan on the environment,

0:23:59 > 0:24:03saving the world one plastic bag at a time.

0:24:03 > 0:24:07It's already the case that we have introduced a very successful charge,

0:24:07 > 0:24:10which is the 5p charge on plastic bags.

0:24:10 > 0:24:15Your challenge and your premise is, hey, Gove, you haven't done enough.

0:24:15 > 0:24:17Meanwhile, after a huge public outcry over the decision to release

0:24:17 > 0:24:21prolific sex attacker John Worboys, the newly appointed Justice

0:24:21 > 0:24:24Secretary is considering making parole board

0:24:24 > 0:24:27hearings more transparent.

0:24:27 > 0:24:28MPs expressed incredulity over the decision to release

0:24:28 > 0:24:33the black cab rapist early.

0:24:33 > 0:24:35What happened to the concept that the punishment

0:24:35 > 0:24:36should fit the crime?

0:24:36 > 0:24:39It is impossible for people to understand how the board

0:24:39 > 0:24:42could possibly have deemed this man to be safe.

0:24:42 > 0:24:46Would my right honourable friend agree with me that,

0:24:46 > 0:24:49unless and until the board explains, publicly explains the rationale

0:24:49 > 0:24:52behind the decision it took, people can't possibly have

0:24:52 > 0:24:59confidence in our criminal justice system?

0:24:59 > 0:25:02Watch This Week on the beaches, watch it in the fields.

0:25:02 > 0:25:03Never, never, never!

0:25:03 > 0:25:07Watch Newsnight!

0:25:07 > 0:25:09Oh!

0:25:09 > 0:25:12I think I've broken it.

0:25:12 > 0:25:16This broadcasting is much harder than it looks,

0:25:16 > 0:25:20and you don't always get paid as much as the men either.

0:25:20 > 0:25:22This week, after another row about pay equality at the BBC,

0:25:22 > 0:25:26the Culture Secretary urged the organisation to address the row.

0:25:26 > 0:25:30This isn't just a matter of levelling women's pay up,

0:25:30 > 0:25:33it's a matter of pay equality.

0:25:33 > 0:25:36Working for the BBC is public service and a great privilege,

0:25:36 > 0:25:38yet some men at the BBC are paid far

0:25:38 > 0:25:42more than other equivalent public servants.

0:25:42 > 0:25:45The BBC have begun to act, and I welcome that, but more action,

0:25:45 > 0:25:50much more action is needed.

0:25:50 > 0:25:54Oh, time for another NHS winter crisis.

0:25:54 > 0:25:58Jeremy Hunt, who is, yes, still the Health Secretary,

0:25:58 > 0:26:01insisted that the health service was well prepared for the winter,

0:26:01 > 0:26:05but he did tell MPs that there was a need for a longer-term

0:26:05 > 0:26:07debate about funding.

0:26:07 > 0:26:10We do need to look to find a consensus for the next

0:26:10 > 0:26:12stage for the NHS.

0:26:12 > 0:26:14We will need significantly more funding in the years ahead.

0:26:14 > 0:26:17We need to build a national consensus as to how we're

0:26:17 > 0:26:20going to find that funding, and my own view is that we should

0:26:20 > 0:26:25try and do that for a 10-year period or a five-year period.

0:26:25 > 0:26:28At PMQs, Jeremy Corbyn attacked Theresa May on the NHS,

0:26:28 > 0:26:31accusing her of being too weak to sack her Health Secretary.

0:26:31 > 0:26:36Theresa May responded to the criticism of tried and tested

0:26:36 > 0:26:38Health Secretary with tried and tested lines

0:26:38 > 0:26:41on economic competence.

0:26:41 > 0:26:45Tax cuts for the super rich and big business, are paid for...

0:26:45 > 0:26:47Yes, Mr Speaker.

0:26:47 > 0:26:50They are paid for by longer waiting lists, ambulance delays,

0:26:50 > 0:26:55staff shortages and cuts to social care.

0:26:55 > 0:26:59Creeping privatisation is dragging our NHS down.

0:26:59 > 0:27:03The Health Secretary, during his occupation

0:27:03 > 0:27:08of her office to keep his job, said he won't abandon ship.

0:27:08 > 0:27:14Isn't that an admission that, under his captaincy,

0:27:14 > 0:27:19the ship is indeed sinking?

0:27:19 > 0:27:21This government is putting more money into the

0:27:21 > 0:27:22National Health Service.

0:27:22 > 0:27:25We see more doctors in our NHS, more nurses in our NHS,

0:27:25 > 0:27:29more operations taking place in our NHS.

0:27:29 > 0:27:31The Labour Party's economic policy was high risk.

0:27:31 > 0:27:34Now, that means high risk for taxpayers, high risk for jobs

0:27:34 > 0:27:40and high risk for our NHS.

0:27:40 > 0:27:45So, when This Week told me they wanted to do a Churchillian

0:27:45 > 0:27:48round-up, I was a bit worried.

0:27:48 > 0:27:50Big shoes to fill and all that.

0:27:50 > 0:27:53But, actually, it's not that hard.

0:27:53 > 0:27:54SHE HICCUPS.

0:27:54 > 0:27:56Ms Hardman, you are drunk.

0:27:56 > 0:27:59That may be true but, in the morning, I will be sober.

0:27:59 > 0:28:04It is the morning and you are channelling the wrong Churchill.

0:28:04 > 0:28:11Oh, no, no, no.

0:28:11 > 0:28:14Thanks to the In and Out Club in St James's, central London.

0:28:14 > 0:28:16We can only apologise for Isabel.

0:28:16 > 0:28:20You never should have let her in.

0:28:20 > 0:28:27And the lovely Miranda Green is with us now.

0:28:27 > 0:28:31Welcome back and Happy New Year to you. Was there any point to this

0:28:31 > 0:28:37cabinet reshuffle?Well, it's hard to discern what it was. It was

0:28:37 > 0:28:41billed as a huge domestic policy refresh, but all of the main

0:28:41 > 0:28:46positions were left untouched. And then there were these unseemly

0:28:46 > 0:28:50castles with ministers who didn't want to go, one of whom stays in

0:28:50 > 0:28:55place, the Health Secretary. Seemingly, this surprised me,

0:28:55 > 0:28:59because if you're going to make a big change like that, you sent out

0:28:59 > 0:29:02the shoppers to have a quiet word with them behind the scenes, if this

0:29:02 > 0:29:07was to be suggested, and it may not be, but he is saying that he knew

0:29:07 > 0:29:11nothing about it until he went there.Its peculiar, but

0:29:11 > 0:29:15unfortunately if a sort of action replay of the election, and exercise

0:29:15 > 0:29:23supposed to real but -- to reassert authority and backfires, not least

0:29:23 > 0:29:29by the refusal of her ministers to do what she says.At the end of last

0:29:29 > 0:29:33year, we were saying, Mrs May has finished the year a little bit

0:29:33 > 0:29:39better than she was, things are coming together now, and the year

0:29:39 > 0:29:42was barely a week old and we are in the middle of the reshuffle

0:29:42 > 0:29:50shambles.I agree it was adjudged to be a shambles but the net effect on

0:29:50 > 0:29:54the public might be the following, that there are more women and ethnic

0:29:54 > 0:29:58minorities brought into government and that therefore the government is

0:29:58 > 0:30:01trying to say something new to a different group of people. And with

0:30:01 > 0:30:07a great deal of emphasis today on the environment, speaking of a 25

0:30:07 > 0:30:10plan and so on, again I think the government has been heard saying

0:30:10 > 0:30:14something. I have often sat on this sofa and said that the government is

0:30:14 > 0:30:18saying nothing to anybody. This week, it may have communicated

0:30:18 > 0:30:25something.I would suggest the other way of looking at it is that the

0:30:25 > 0:30:29composition of the Cabinet has not changed, and if anything it is a

0:30:29 > 0:30:33little more traditional, the same number of women, fewer comprehensive

0:30:33 > 0:30:41kids, fewer non-Oxbridge types, the racial make-up has not changed. And

0:30:41 > 0:30:44for voters, what really happened is that politicians most people have

0:30:44 > 0:30:49not heard of have been replaced by politicians nobody has heard of.

0:30:49 > 0:30:53Supposing the result were that a new dynamism was put into education

0:30:53 > 0:30:57policy, a dynamism that we saw from Michael Gove when he was in that

0:30:57 > 0:31:00position and a dynamism that we see from Michael Gove in his new

0:31:00 > 0:31:04position at environment? That might be very consequential, because

0:31:04 > 0:31:08whether you believe what has been written about Justine Greening today

0:31:08 > 0:31:12or not, it is the case that education policy was making no

0:31:12 > 0:31:18impact on the public.What is your take?What Michael has described is

0:31:18 > 0:31:23what Number Ten hoped this would do for Theresa May. The public do not

0:31:23 > 0:31:26take much notice of reshuffles, particularly when they are so low

0:31:26 > 0:31:32key. But it is another unforced error. It is like Les Dawson playing

0:31:32 > 0:31:38the piano. You know he is supposed to be all right at this. If you are

0:31:38 > 0:31:41having an inconsequential reshuffle, why go on the Andrew Marr Show and

0:31:41 > 0:31:48talk it up? Why did journalists start putting out stuff like Hunt is

0:31:48 > 0:31:54going to leave hell? And then you get this! Central office, the Chris

0:31:54 > 0:32:01Grayling tweet. This is what is in the public's mine.Listen to

0:32:01 > 0:32:07Michael! It is all really going well.At 11:56am, Chris Grayling is

0:32:07 > 0:32:15the chairman of the Tory party, and at 11:59am he is not.Describe the

0:32:15 > 0:32:21state of the government.They are very confused. This attempt to

0:32:21 > 0:32:24wrench energy and attention off Brexit and onto these important

0:32:24 > 0:32:29domestic agenda issues, it is looking stumbling but it is

0:32:29 > 0:32:33something they probably need to do if they have any hope of winning the

0:32:33 > 0:32:36next election. Since we think most of the Tory party is resigned to

0:32:36 > 0:32:43hanging onto Mrs May, then they have got to try and form some sort of

0:32:43 > 0:32:51positive agenda.We wondered after the election, after the Tory

0:32:51 > 0:32:55conference, remember that, another triumph that you easily dismissed.

0:32:55 > 0:32:58Going to Brussels without talking to her DUP partners and having to come

0:32:58 > 0:33:05back.The excellent reasons that emerged during the course of last

0:33:05 > 0:33:09year for keeping Mrs May, the excellent reasons that emerged,

0:33:09 > 0:33:12which were firstly that there was no one else and secondly that there

0:33:12 > 0:33:16would be a bloodbath to put someone else in, those excellent reasons for

0:33:16 > 0:33:22keeping her remain.Were you not the one who said she would be gone by

0:33:22 > 0:33:28Christmas?I did indeed.Square that with what you just said.I said

0:33:28 > 0:33:32these reasons emerged during the course of the year. Either way, on

0:33:32 > 0:33:37this programme, luckily, we are not paid results. No matter how often we

0:33:37 > 0:33:43are wrong, we are back here. And I can tell the licence payer -- the

0:33:43 > 0:33:51licence fee payer, it does not affect my fee.There is a lot of

0:33:51 > 0:34:00talk about this being a watershed moment for the NHS. My instinct is

0:34:00 > 0:34:04that it probably isn't, because the instinct of politicians and the NHS

0:34:04 > 0:34:11is just to stumble through another winter.Two things. First, the NHS

0:34:11 > 0:34:15has always managed its budgets by something called a waiting list.

0:34:15 > 0:34:20They stopped operating in November. And at the end of the financial

0:34:20 > 0:34:24year, they would start again. When the government, my government, put

0:34:24 > 0:34:33in these performance measures Michael was talking about, and put

0:34:33 > 0:34:37them into the NHS Constitution, that you are not going to delay, not

0:34:37 > 0:34:40going to wait two years for a cataract operation, as soon as that

0:34:40 > 0:34:43happened, they could not use the waiting list any more. And attention

0:34:43 > 0:34:48you are seeing now, if we can't use the waiting list and the money we

0:34:48 > 0:34:53spend on pay, which has gone up by 4% per year since 1955, has now gone

0:34:53 > 0:34:58up by 1.4% since 2010, eight, nation of that and the terrible shortage of

0:34:58 > 0:35:04nursing. Theresa May was saying we have more nurses. For the first

0:35:04 > 0:35:09time, the register of the National nurses and midwives has gone down.

0:35:09 > 0:35:13Since 2005, it has started to go down and has been going down. There

0:35:13 > 0:35:23is a deficit.One in ten unfilled. During the course of all the

0:35:23 > 0:35:27apocalyptic pronouncements that were made today by the providers' bodies,

0:35:27 > 0:35:31one of the things they said was that the situation was the turning point,

0:35:31 > 0:35:37the worst it has been for 15 years. Guess who was in power 15 years ago.

0:35:37 > 0:35:41I am not making a partisan point, but one of the great annual

0:35:41 > 0:35:44traditions of the British people is that in the winter the NHS comes out

0:35:44 > 0:35:48and moans about needing more money. Sometimes the government gives it

0:35:48 > 0:35:53more, sometimes it doesn't. There is nothing new about this whatsoever.

0:35:53 > 0:36:00The thing that is a bit depressing as we go through this again is that

0:36:00 > 0:36:04on both front benches there is no appetite for any kind of real reform

0:36:04 > 0:36:09of the NHS any more. It is down to an argument just about money, isn't

0:36:09 > 0:36:14it?It is, except for this idea of the way that the NHS and social care

0:36:14 > 0:36:18fit together. What has happened in recent years is the NHS has borne

0:36:18 > 0:36:25the brunt of the local government cuts and social care. Bed blocking

0:36:25 > 0:36:28and people being sent into the health system who could be cared for

0:36:28 > 0:36:34elsewhere, because austerities was imposed much more stringently on

0:36:34 > 0:36:38local government. You have to look at the two together or you can't

0:36:38 > 0:36:41help the health service. If that is on the agenda, and it would bring

0:36:41 > 0:36:45England into alignment with the rest of the UK, and there is quite a lot

0:36:45 > 0:36:49of cross-party consensus on it, so maybe that will bring the NHS

0:36:49 > 0:36:54through this crisis. But it does need more money. We have an ageing

0:36:54 > 0:37:03population, more expensive, sophisticated treatments.

0:37:03 > 0:37:06sophisticated treatments.I was Health Secretary ten years ago. The

0:37:06 > 0:37:11policy on social care has always rested with the NHS. The money is

0:37:11 > 0:37:14with local government.You need Alan Johnson to tell us what the truth

0:37:14 > 0:37:20is. But we also need Miranda. Thank you. Michael Portillo, not so much.

0:37:20 > 0:37:23Social media like Twitter were originally seen

0:37:23 > 0:37:25as a democratic advance, giving everybody, not just

0:37:25 > 0:37:26politicians, the media and the powerful a voice

0:37:26 > 0:37:27in our public discourse.

0:37:27 > 0:37:29And it still fulfils that role.

0:37:29 > 0:37:33But it's also been a voice for some of the darker forces in our society.

0:37:33 > 0:37:36And for those on the wrong end of a Twitter mob, it's become

0:37:36 > 0:37:37a modern-day inquisition.

0:37:37 > 0:37:39In the pre-digital age, what you said usually disappeared

0:37:39 > 0:37:42into the mists of time, unless you were a public figure.

0:37:42 > 0:37:45Now it's forever recorded for posterity to resurrect even

0:37:45 > 0:37:50when you've moved on, as Toby Young found out to his cost.

0:37:50 > 0:37:54Is this healthy disclosure and transparency?

0:37:54 > 0:37:56Or are we creating a climate in which anybody who aspires

0:37:56 > 0:38:01to public life would be well advised to remain studiously anodyne?

0:38:01 > 0:38:04Important questions, which is why we're putting

0:38:04 > 0:38:12Twitter in the spotlight.

0:38:19 > 0:38:22Toby Young alienated enough people with his own tweets this week,

0:38:22 > 0:38:24he ended up losing his job.

0:38:24 > 0:38:28Masturbating over images of refugees.

0:38:28 > 0:38:31He talks about women's breasts constantly on Twitter.

0:38:31 > 0:38:39About their knockers, their breasts, their boobs, on and on.

0:38:39 > 0:38:42So, in the age of the inter-web, is the past no longer

0:38:42 > 0:38:44a foreign country?

0:38:44 > 0:38:46What do we all think about Meghan Markle?

0:38:46 > 0:38:47I think she's trouble.

0:38:47 > 0:38:49Why do you think she's trouble?

0:38:49 > 0:38:51Background...

0:38:51 > 0:38:54Well, Ann, Meghan Markle's not taking any risks.

0:38:54 > 0:38:57She's deactivating the Tweeter, Instagranny and the Fleecebook -

0:38:57 > 0:39:03as has Lewis Hamilton.

0:39:03 > 0:39:06But don't worry, Twitter ain't going to force very stable genius

0:39:06 > 0:39:09Donald Trump to log off.

0:39:09 > 0:39:11There is a public interest in people seeing what elected

0:39:11 > 0:39:14world leaders are saying.

0:39:14 > 0:39:16Let's bear in mind that this is the elected leader

0:39:16 > 0:39:21of the biggest power in the world.

0:39:21 > 0:39:25But is social media always #megalolz?

0:39:25 > 0:39:27It's everyone's responsibility to stand up and make change,

0:39:27 > 0:39:31so that's why I'm wearing it.

0:39:31 > 0:39:32Maybe not when it's used amid allegations

0:39:32 > 0:39:34of sexual harassment.

0:39:34 > 0:39:36You got criticised for wearing that.

0:39:36 > 0:39:41Do you know why?

0:39:41 > 0:39:45The things that I heard that went on Twitter are not accurate.

0:39:45 > 0:39:47So should we like and re-tweet everything we read?

0:39:47 > 0:39:53Chris Grayling is to be the new party chairman.

0:39:53 > 0:39:55Well, not if it comes from the Conservative Party's

0:39:55 > 0:39:59Twitter account on the day of a Cabinet reshuffle.

0:39:59 > 0:40:01We are going to go back to Downing Street.

0:40:01 > 0:40:04Chris Grayling hasn't been confirmed as Conservative Party chairman.

0:40:04 > 0:40:06Not much more than confusion central.

0:40:06 > 0:40:09What absolute nonsense!

0:40:09 > 0:40:11Believe it or not, septuagenarian and jungle giant Stanley Johnson's

0:40:11 > 0:40:16got thousands of followers on social media.

0:40:16 > 0:40:24But is it a force for good or bad?

0:40:25 > 0:40:33And Stanley is with us now.

0:40:34 > 0:40:41Welcome back. Are we in an age in which

0:40:43 > 0:40:48which Twitter has become a kind of mob caught?I am incredibly

0:40:48 > 0:40:53intrigued by this because I went into the jungle, not actually a

0:40:53 > 0:40:58jungle but a jolly nice forest. I went in and as far as I knew I only

0:40:58 > 0:41:05had four followers, my siblings. I came out and found there were 17,500

0:41:05 > 0:41:10followers on Twitter and 140,000 on Instagram. I didn't know about

0:41:10 > 0:41:16Twitter or Instagram. But now I am beginning to feel my way a bit. It

0:41:16 > 0:41:21seems interesting.You are a new kid on the block on this. Others like

0:41:21 > 0:41:27Toby Young, who have been using it for a long while, sometimes not

0:41:27 > 0:41:32wisely, find that it comes back to haunt them big time.That is the

0:41:32 > 0:41:37moral of the story. Just to go back half a second to this jungle thing.

0:41:37 > 0:41:43One thing that was made absolutely clear to me, you are on 24 hours a

0:41:43 > 0:41:47day, on-air and being filmed. I think you have to treat social media

0:41:47 > 0:41:52in the same context. If you don't want to be overheard saying

0:41:52 > 0:41:57something, don't say it on social media.You may have got that, a man

0:41:57 > 0:42:02of maturity and experience, but if you are 17 you are not going to

0:42:02 > 0:42:07think that, are you? Just like at 17 you do not think about building a

0:42:07 > 0:42:12pension, the last thing on your mind, 17, 18, 19. You don't really

0:42:12 > 0:42:17think that 12 years down the road, when I apply for this job

0:42:17 > 0:42:22somewhere...You raise a good point. Is there a statute of limitations?

0:42:22 > 0:42:27Do you go back and say, you can't go back more than seven years? I used

0:42:27 > 0:42:32to know Toby Young when he shared digs with my daughter at Oxford. He

0:42:32 > 0:42:37wrote some pretty nasty stuff. People have dug it up. My son, Joe,

0:42:37 > 0:42:45defended him for 40 minutes House of Commons. He got a brilliant defence

0:42:45 > 0:42:49from him and the next morning Toby Young resign, so there is no

0:42:49 > 0:42:54gratitude in politics.My policy... You never joined Twitter.I don't

0:42:54 > 0:43:00tweet because I drink. I don't think you should drink and tweet, and I am

0:43:00 > 0:43:06not prepared to give up drinking. You are wise beyond your years!Is

0:43:06 > 0:43:12that -- is that not the problem a lot of people are falling into? A

0:43:12 > 0:43:16lot of these tweets are late at night and people have had a drink or

0:43:16 > 0:43:20two. I am sure you have never regretted anything that you tweet.I

0:43:20 > 0:43:26tend to tweet economic statistics. The President of America tweets

0:43:26 > 0:43:31later Mike and in the morning.He doesn't drink.We have a couple of

0:43:31 > 0:43:35hours in our time zone when he has gone to bed but before he wakes up

0:43:35 > 0:43:41when it is quiet and at 6am it is East Coast time coming up to 11 and

0:43:41 > 0:43:46all hell breaks loose. If you want to cover him, you have to follow

0:43:46 > 0:43:50him. What do you make of what is happening on social media? Putting

0:43:50 > 0:43:53aside Toby Young, which has been done to death as a debate, but are

0:43:53 > 0:44:02we holding, do the dangers we did not foresee in all this?Maybe, but

0:44:02 > 0:44:06I do not have anything to do with it and I never have. I am probably the

0:44:06 > 0:44:10last generation of politicians who can get away with that, Michael and

0:44:10 > 0:44:13I. Now, I see politicians who find it very difficult if their

0:44:13 > 0:44:18politicians are not able to follow them on Twitter. Therefore, they get

0:44:18 > 0:44:23involved. It is a medium which is good in many ways, but a medium for

0:44:23 > 0:44:28bullying. That is what worries me. Younger people in particular.That

0:44:28 > 0:44:31is my second reason for not doing it. I don't want to read stuff about

0:44:31 > 0:44:38myself.Look at what happened today. There was a report out in America,

0:44:38 > 0:44:42Russian involvement in the Brexit referendum, largely activated

0:44:42 > 0:44:50through Twitter. All of these troll farms. There is a downside.There

0:44:50 > 0:44:54is, and I'm glad we have raised it and I am glad we got you back in one

0:44:54 > 0:45:01piece.I haven't then shunned my book.

0:45:01 > 0:45:06book. It is my book about how the Russians fixed Brexit.But it is

0:45:06 > 0:45:12fiction?It is truth.Alternative factor.

0:45:12 > 0:45:13And that's your lot for tonight, folks.

0:45:13 > 0:45:16Wardrobe by Army Surplus, studio courtesy of the London Dungeon,

0:45:16 > 0:45:17transport provided by Chris Grayling's minicab,

0:45:17 > 0:45:20online research by Damian Green, failed reshuffling of the cast

0:45:20 > 0:45:23by Theresa May, and scripts written by...

0:45:23 > 0:45:26Yes, contrary to popular belief, there is a script for this show,

0:45:26 > 0:45:28but nobody will own up to it.

0:45:28 > 0:45:31All complaints to the Director General, c/o The Presidential Suite,

0:45:31 > 0:45:32the Four Seasons Hotel, Cayman Islands.

0:45:32 > 0:45:35Don't bother contacting us.

0:45:35 > 0:45:37We're off to Lou Lou's to celebrate our 15th birthday.

0:45:37 > 0:45:43Yes, this show was launched in January 2003, when Alan Johnson

0:45:43 > 0:45:46had a burgeoning political career and Diane Abbott didn't,

0:45:46 > 0:45:52and Choo Choo thought Trainspotting was a film rather

0:45:52 > 0:45:55than a career choice.

0:45:55 > 0:45:58If we can find any friends or viewers or money, we might throw

0:45:58 > 0:46:00a proper party in a few weeks' time.

0:46:00 > 0:46:03Watch this space and you might get an invite.

0:46:03 > 0:46:11Nighty-night, don't let Choo Choo's latest hobby bite.

0:46:22 > 0:46:29Bravo. What's it all about? Fertility rites and things like

0:46:29 > 0:46:41that, you see.No. I'll give it a go. Hello, do you mind if I step in.