:00:13. > :00:15.Hello and welcome to Thursday in Parliament, our look at the best
:00:16. > :00:18.of the day in the Commons, the last day before
:00:19. > :00:23.On this programme: reaction in the Commons to the next planned
:00:24. > :00:39.This is an awful game of brinkmanship and the government must
:00:40. > :00:43.press the pause button before it is too late. Governments cannot be held
:00:44. > :00:45.hostage by a union that refuses to negotiate.
:00:46. > :00:50.An MP places a wager with a Secretary of State.
:00:51. > :00:56.I bet the minister ?100 that nuclear power station will not be built
:00:57. > :00:58.without even more public subsidy being offered.
:00:59. > :01:01.And an MP gives a first-hand account of being given life-saving treatment
:01:02. > :01:10.I had a total of eight weeks in Saint Mary Hospital, five and a half
:01:11. > :01:14.weeks in the intensive care unit. But first: Junior doctors
:01:15. > :01:16.are holding the country to "ransom" with their latest plans for a full
:01:17. > :01:18.walkout from hospitals. That was the verdict
:01:19. > :01:21.of the Health Minister Ben Gummer. For months junior doctors in England
:01:22. > :01:23.have been locked in battle with the Government over
:01:24. > :01:26.the re-drawing of their terms One of their main areas of complaint
:01:27. > :01:33.is that the new contracts require Three strikes have been
:01:34. > :01:37.held since January. But during the next series
:01:38. > :01:40.of strikes, announced for April, the junior doctors will not be
:01:41. > :01:43.providing emergency cover. The Health Minister said
:01:44. > :01:46.the Government would do all in its power to make sure
:01:47. > :01:59.patients were protected. Given that patients presenting at
:02:00. > :02:04.hospitals in an emergency are often at a point of extreme danger, the
:02:05. > :02:08.action taken by the BMA will inevitably put patients in harms
:02:09. > :02:14.way. But the BMA wish to do this in order to continue a dispute over how
:02:15. > :02:17.Saturdays are paid is not only regrettable, it is entirely
:02:18. > :02:23.disproportionate and highly irresponsible. We are in the
:02:24. > :02:28.position of being faced with a trade union escalating strike action
:02:29. > :02:32.despite being consistent only in its refusal to negotiate. The country
:02:33. > :02:35.cannot be held to ransom like this. At some point a democratically
:02:36. > :02:40.elected government must be able to proceed to fulfil the promises it
:02:41. > :02:42.has made to the people. Governments cannot be held hostage by a union
:02:43. > :02:45.that refuses to negotiate. He said the Government had been
:02:46. > :02:55.forced, with regret, We will be presenting the new
:02:56. > :02:59.contract directly to doctors to show them that it is safer than the one
:03:00. > :03:03.it replaces, it's fairer, it's better for patients than the one it
:03:04. > :03:08.replaces and it's better the doctors than the one it replaces. By seeing
:03:09. > :03:15.the detail for themselves I am confident that doctors will see the
:03:16. > :03:17.strike for what it is. This report should add that
:03:18. > :03:25.micro-disproportionate, ill judged, unnecessary wrong. This is a
:03:26. > :03:31.worrying time for patients and the NHS. And it is nothing short of a
:03:32. > :03:36.disgrace that yet again the Health Secretary has failed to turn up. If
:03:37. > :03:41.this walk-out goes ahead, this will be the first time ever that junior
:03:42. > :03:48.doctors have fully withdrawn their labour. Nobody wants that to happen.
:03:49. > :03:51.Deep down, he knows that this contract has nothing to do with
:03:52. > :04:01.seven-day services and everything to do with setting a precedent to save
:04:02. > :04:05.money on the NHS pay bill. Change the definition of unsociable hours
:04:06. > :04:14.in this contract and pave the way for changing it for nurses, porters
:04:15. > :04:19.and a whole host of other NHS staff. Am I wrong, Minister? Mr Speaker,
:04:20. > :04:23.the government has 32 days to prevent a fall walk-out of junior
:04:24. > :04:29.doctors. The Secretary of State may think the matter is closed, I say
:04:30. > :04:35.that is arrogant and dangerous in the extreme. This is an awful game
:04:36. > :04:42.of brinkmanship and the government must press the pause button before
:04:43. > :04:45.it's too late. There is a point at which you cannot continue
:04:46. > :04:49.discussions. Firstly if your counter party refuses to talk, secondly in
:04:50. > :04:53.the knowledge that over so many occasions a promise to talk has been
:04:54. > :04:58.given by the BMA only fair that promise to be renovated upon as a
:04:59. > :05:01.future point. We have to move ahead, we have to move ahead with a
:05:02. > :05:06.contract that is better for patients and better for doctors. She hasn't
:05:07. > :05:10.yet told us what the position of the opposition is. I could understand
:05:11. > :05:14.that although I don't agree with it. I can understand it when the
:05:15. > :05:20.industrial action is to do with elective nonemergency care. But the
:05:21. > :05:26.call for strike action on emergency care is of an altogether different
:05:27. > :05:32.order. It does demand a response from the opposition because this is
:05:33. > :05:37.about emergency cover for patients. The opposition needs to say very
:05:38. > :05:42.clearly whether it supports or condemns the action. Does my
:05:43. > :05:48.honourable friend agree that this time the BMA has gone too far and
:05:49. > :05:55.will he join me in calling on junior doctors reaching beyond the BMA to
:05:56. > :06:01.put their patients first and the BMA leadership second? I know that NHS
:06:02. > :06:07.staff do not take strike action lightly. The government 's failure
:06:08. > :06:11.to negotiate has fuelled this crisis in our NHS. The BMA in their
:06:12. > :06:14.statement yesterday said they wanted to end this dispute through talks. I
:06:15. > :06:21.implore the Minister to get background that table for the sake
:06:22. > :06:26.of patients and every citizen of this country. The Secretary of State
:06:27. > :06:30.has promised that there will be more junior doctors working at weekends
:06:31. > :06:34.while at the same time no fewer working during the week. The UK
:06:35. > :06:39.Government has this week decided the best way to reform disability
:06:40. > :06:43.welfare payments is to listen to disabled people. Will the UK
:06:44. > :06:47.Government now make a similar U-turn on the NHS reform and concede that
:06:48. > :06:52.the best way to reform junior doctor contracts is to listen to junior
:06:53. > :06:57.doctors? Given the responsible announcement yesterday by the BMA
:06:58. > :07:01.they are willing to walk out even on emergency patients shows that the
:07:02. > :07:05.doctors union are prepared to put patients lives that risks. Will my
:07:06. > :07:10.honourable friend look at the law and see how that can be brought in
:07:11. > :07:15.line for emergency medicine so that emergency doctors are prevented from
:07:16. > :07:17.taking action as irresponsible and appalling of this in future.
:07:18. > :07:19.Eight days have gone by since the Budget statement,
:07:20. > :07:22.and it's no exaggeration to say that George Osborne's measures have taken
:07:23. > :07:25.The row over disability benefits, prompting the resignation
:07:26. > :07:28.from the Cabinet of Iain Duncan Smith, has overshadowed a measure
:07:29. > :07:30.that the Chancellor clearly hoped would make the headlines,
:07:31. > :07:33.namely the sugar tax. The levy's aimed at high-sugar
:07:34. > :07:38.drinks, particularly fizzy drinks, popular among teenagers.
:07:39. > :07:41.The tax will be imposed on companies and apply in two bands depending
:07:42. > :07:48.Full-strength Coca-Cola and Pepsi, and Irn-Bru, would fall under
:07:49. > :07:51.the higher rate of the tax which, it's suggested,
:07:52. > :07:56.At the Treasury committee, the Chancellor was asked
:07:57. > :08:05.if he was prepared to back the move in court.
:08:06. > :08:12.There's been some press speculation prompted by some of the
:08:13. > :08:16.manufacturers, either they might mount a legal challenge or they are
:08:17. > :08:22.urging the government to rethink. Can you comment on the government 's
:08:23. > :08:28.position in response to the recent press reports? Many companies are
:08:29. > :08:33.doing the right thing and reducing the sugar content in their drinks
:08:34. > :08:37.and that is to be applauded. Other companies are saying either this
:08:38. > :08:41.sugar taxes and going to happen or they are going to challenge it in
:08:42. > :08:46.the courts. I would say if they want to have an argument about the sugar
:08:47. > :08:51.tax, bring it on. We are going to introduce a sugar tax. It's the way
:08:52. > :08:54.it's going to be. I think it's the right thing for this country. I
:08:55. > :09:01.think it will make a huge improvement to childhood health.
:09:02. > :09:06.It's been warmly welcomed across the political spectrum but also very
:09:07. > :09:09.much supported by the health profession and the education
:09:10. > :09:16.profession. We will now consult on the technical details of the tax and
:09:17. > :09:20.setup the parameters and it will be introduced in 2018. Precisely so
:09:21. > :09:25.that companies have two years to reformulate products or change their
:09:26. > :09:31.marketing if they wish to do so. Otherwise they will pay the tax. Any
:09:32. > :09:35.legal challenge will be read but he defended by the government? We took
:09:36. > :09:40.legal advice before introducing it. We are very clear it's legal. And we
:09:41. > :09:44.will of course robotically defend it if there was a legal challenge. I
:09:45. > :09:50.would say to companies, don't waste time and money on a legal challenge.
:09:51. > :09:57.Use this period to look at job products and see if you can
:09:58. > :10:02.reformulate. Robinsons, Tesco, Sainsbury, the Co-op, they have all
:10:03. > :10:06.reformulate it. These are products you can reduce sugar in. I would
:10:07. > :10:08.suggest that is what we would like to see the industry do. Ultimately
:10:09. > :10:10.it will be up to them. Then on to those proposals for cuts
:10:11. > :10:21.to disability benefits, In the process of the budget you
:10:22. > :10:24.talked this week about the lessons that need to be learned or the
:10:25. > :10:28.lessons you will learn, I wondered what lessons you are taking away
:10:29. > :10:33.from this budget both in terms of the process you went through but
:10:34. > :10:38.also the content? Obviously attention has focused on the changes
:10:39. > :10:46.that were proposed to personal independence payments just prior to
:10:47. > :10:50.the budget. Clearly, if you are going to make reforms to disability
:10:51. > :10:55.benefits we need to go about it in a better way than we did because they
:10:56. > :10:59.were intended to make sure that a rising disability budget, more money
:11:00. > :11:05.was focused on those who need it most and that the disability benefit
:11:06. > :11:09.budget was well used. But it did not come and support as was perfectly
:11:10. > :11:11.obvious. So that's where I think lessons need to be learned.
:11:12. > :11:13.Another Labour MP wondered how the chancellor would
:11:14. > :11:28.Is it possible Chancellor that you might make further cuts to welfare
:11:29. > :11:34.spending? We've got no plans. That's not the question I asked. We are not
:11:35. > :11:38.going to replace the ?1 billion more than we are going to be spending on
:11:39. > :11:45.disability benefits with some other cuts... That's not the question I
:11:46. > :11:50.asked. Is it possible you will make further cuts to welfare spending? I
:11:51. > :11:54.imagine if the country votes to remain in the European Union will
:11:55. > :11:55.will be seeking to make good progress and introducing the welfare
:11:56. > :12:11.break on EU migrants. It is possible you will make further
:12:12. > :12:14.cuts to welfare? That is something that is probably announced. Is it
:12:15. > :12:17.possible that the Autumn Statement you will make further cuts to other
:12:18. > :12:23.spending? We have no plans for further cuts. That is not the
:12:24. > :12:26.question I asked. It is the answer I am giving you. We do not plan for
:12:27. > :12:31.the reductions in welfare spending beyond what we have already
:12:32. > :12:35.announced. We will get in focus preventing the proposals in the
:12:36. > :12:38.welfare reform Act. I think anybody listening to this will have to
:12:39. > :12:44.conclude it is entirely possible you will make further cuts to welfare at
:12:45. > :12:48.the Autumn Statement. That's not the conclusion I would draw from
:12:49. > :12:51.listening to me. Can you understand, Chancellor, why people might not
:12:52. > :12:56.trust politicians in general and perhaps you in particular if you
:12:57. > :12:59.refuse to answer what are pretty important questions, particularly
:13:00. > :13:04.for people who are reliant on these sorts of benefits? I think people
:13:05. > :13:07.know what we have set out to achieve. It was in our manifesto,
:13:08. > :13:11.this budget delivers our manifesto, that is what the country voted on.
:13:12. > :13:13.You're watching our round up of the day at Westminster.
:13:14. > :13:16.Still to come: MPs plead for a re-think on plans to close
:13:17. > :13:27.The doubts remain over whether a new nuclear power station
:13:28. > :13:30.will ever be built at Hinkley Point, in Somerset.
:13:31. > :13:39.The energy company, EDF, said two weeks ago it couldn't
:13:40. > :13:42.confirm its commitment to build the new ?24 billion reactor
:13:43. > :13:44.unless the French government came up with more money.
:13:45. > :13:46.On Wednesday a French government spokesman said a final decision
:13:47. > :13:51.When the subject was raised at Energy questions in the Commons,
:13:52. > :13:57.a Labour MP was in a gambling frame of mind.
:13:58. > :13:59.The government has already offered ridiculously large subsidies
:14:00. > :14:05.I bet the minister ?100, proceeds to charity of course,
:14:06. > :14:08.that that nuclear power station will not be built without even more
:14:09. > :14:14.Will the Secretary of State take that bet?
:14:15. > :14:16.Mr Speaker, apart from looking people in the eyes, I'm not
:14:17. > :14:19.in the habit of taking bets across the chamber.
:14:20. > :14:22.But I'm very happy to reassure the honourable gentleman that I'm
:14:23. > :14:25.completely confident that the Hinkley Point C project
:14:26. > :14:27.will go ahead, and will not be the only new nuclear reactor
:14:28. > :14:34.It appears that Britain's energy security is now in the hands
:14:35. > :14:37.of the French and Chinese governments.
:14:38. > :14:41.If the French government decides not to offer up more money
:14:42. > :14:43.for the Hinkley Project, will our taxpayers be on the hook
:14:44. > :14:52.I can reassure the honourable lady that this proposal in Hinkley Point
:14:53. > :14:59.But in order to give further reassurance to the honourable lady,
:15:00. > :15:02.I would like to tell her that Hinkley Point is an important part
:15:03. > :15:05.of our low carbon future, but it is not the only nuclear
:15:06. > :15:09.If she had paid attention during the Budget she might have
:15:10. > :15:12.heard the Chancellor announce further support for small modular
:15:13. > :15:16.reactors which could be an important part of a low carbon future.
:15:17. > :15:19.Is the intention of this government to build Hinkley Point C
:15:20. > :15:26.The honourable gentleman I'm sure is aware that it is not for this
:15:27. > :15:30.It is for EDF to build Hinkley Point C.
:15:31. > :15:33.That is why we have put the arrangement in place
:15:34. > :15:36.where we only pay when the electricity is generated.
:15:37. > :15:39.That is the sound arrangement that we have and it is due to start
:15:40. > :15:42.generating that electricity when we will start paying
:15:43. > :15:51.Well, back now to the question of health, because the Labour MP
:15:52. > :15:54.Mike Gapes has been giving MPs in Westminster Hall a vivid
:15:55. > :15:56.description of HIS first-hand experience of the National Health
:15:57. > :16:01.He became seriously ill five months ago.
:16:02. > :16:07.This is my first speech or question apart from interventions in this
:16:08. > :16:13.And my friend and neighbour referred to my extended break.
:16:14. > :16:16.It was not voluntary, it was not by choice.
:16:17. > :16:28.I had been at a concert at the Royal Albert Hall.
:16:29. > :16:30.Jools Holland saved my life, because if I have not gone
:16:31. > :16:34.to the concert I would not have had friends with me when I had
:16:35. > :16:37.the events occurr that evening in November.
:16:38. > :16:40.And I was rushed by ambulance initially to Chelsea
:16:41. > :16:45.and Westminster Hospital, where I collapsed, and they scanned
:16:46. > :16:51.me and decided I had such a serious rupture to the thoracic aneurysm
:16:52. > :16:54.that they had to refer me by ambulance into Saint Mary's
:16:55. > :17:05.I have a vivid memory of going down the ramp out of the ambulance
:17:06. > :17:07.into the A at St Mary's with about ten people waiting
:17:08. > :17:12.there and running me in the trolley straight into the operating theatre,
:17:13. > :17:18.where the consultant said, "I hope you don't mind,
:17:19. > :17:21."we have injected you with anaesthetic but do you mind
:17:22. > :17:26."Because we have to start straightaway.
:17:27. > :17:29."The anaesthetic will take a moment to work."
:17:30. > :17:32.And then I heard a female voice saying, "I know this is hurting,
:17:33. > :17:44.I had a total of eight weeks in Saint Mary 's Hospital.
:17:45. > :17:48.Five and a half weeks in the intensive care unit.
:17:49. > :17:53.Nearly three of which I was in an induced coma.
:17:54. > :18:00.I had a series of operations on my heart, and also a
:18:01. > :18:02.tracheostomy, which is an interesting experience whereby
:18:03. > :18:12.permanently inside you, or it seems like eminently.
:18:13. > :18:15.Fortunately it is not there any more.
:18:16. > :18:17.I also had other operations whilst I was there.
:18:18. > :18:27.I haven't yet flown anywhere, and I'm waiting to see what happens
:18:28. > :18:29.to the metal detectors at the airport, because I do have
:18:30. > :18:31.some stents which might cause some competitions.
:18:32. > :18:34.I have to say I have been at the hospital this morning
:18:35. > :18:37.and they are very pleased with my progress, and I am able
:18:38. > :18:45.MPS are urging the government to rethink its decision to close
:18:46. > :18:48.a fifth of courts in England and Wales.
:18:49. > :18:53.The plans are part of reforms to modernise courts and reduce
:18:54. > :19:01.But across the house MPs said local justice was in danger and a Labour
:19:02. > :19:07.MP said the government didn't realise the impact of the closures.
:19:08. > :19:14.... 'S responds to the consultation says that 97 present of citizens
:19:15. > :19:17.will still be able to reach their required court within an hour by
:19:18. > :19:22.car. The statement is something not true. The data on which the response
:19:23. > :19:28.is based is travel time between court buildings, not the travel time
:19:29. > :19:32.from residents' forms to the court which will now be the closest. And I
:19:33. > :19:36.feel that many people upon witnessing a crime will say, I do
:19:37. > :19:39.not know if I want to come forward as a witness when it will mean that
:19:40. > :19:45.additional time and cost burden to me as a witness. Until you are a
:19:46. > :19:49.victim, you do not realise how important it is for the witnesses
:19:50. > :19:54.and victims to turn up. This is what happened to me 20 years ago. I was a
:19:55. > :19:58.victim of assault but I basically stopped a large and rampaging group
:19:59. > :20:01.of girls who were kicking a young girl on a zebra crossing north
:20:02. > :20:05.London and then assaulted each worker and then assaulted me. It was
:20:06. > :20:09.only I turned up that I realised how important it was that the people who
:20:10. > :20:12.had been the victims of assault were in that room that day so that those
:20:13. > :20:20.girls leaders guilty, in that case to the charge of affray. Simply the
:20:21. > :20:24.policy is wrong. The one size fits all court closure programme is both
:20:25. > :20:28.crude, I think, and wrong. And it is against the principle of local
:20:29. > :20:33.justice, which is the cornerstone of the British justice system. Frankly,
:20:34. > :20:37.these closures, particularly for Chichester are not a policy, they
:20:38. > :20:46.are the negation of policy. Everyone understands the need for financial
:20:47. > :20:48.stringency. But no economic rationale has been provided despite
:20:49. > :20:54.repeated requests for these closures. And until it is provided,
:20:55. > :20:58.I think people will continue to be deeply concerned about it. The
:20:59. > :21:01.Government defends itself by claiming that courts are underused,
:21:02. > :21:04.but I have been told by credible sources that court cases are being
:21:05. > :21:09.moved in order to skew these figures and justify closing some courts. And
:21:10. > :21:13.if the justification is not lack of demand it is the need to save money,
:21:14. > :21:16.which will effectively result in the cost of providing justice been
:21:17. > :21:19.passed from the state to the individual engaging with the justice
:21:20. > :21:24.system whether as an offender or as a witness or as a victim. There is a
:21:25. > :21:27.real need to look at how we have a plan for the long-term future of our
:21:28. > :21:33.courts, how we have a strategy to ensure that some cases can still be
:21:34. > :21:36.decided locally, and a real commitment to doing that, not just a
:21:37. > :21:42.allusion to it, but a real firm plan in areas where there will no longer
:21:43. > :21:43.be an alternative building in the near vicinity.
:21:44. > :21:49.But not everyone was against the idea:
:21:50. > :21:54.Some Magistrates' Courts I can remember were in poor condition, old
:21:55. > :21:57.and ill-equipped, and did not have this facility is to deal with the
:21:58. > :22:01.separation of witnesses, victims and legal advisers that we all wish to
:22:02. > :22:06.see and that the Honorourable Member referred to earlier. So not all
:22:07. > :22:12.closures are bad, and has to be process of renewal and sometimes of
:22:13. > :22:16.consolidation. These Asian to close a court is not one that I take
:22:17. > :22:20.lightly. But it is a decision that I'm prepared to make when it is
:22:21. > :22:24.necessary to do so to support the essential reform of our court
:22:25. > :22:26.tribunal system and to bring the court system up to the modern
:22:27. > :22:34.21st-century. There'll be two parliamentary
:22:35. > :22:37.by-elections in the next few weeks. The contests follow the death
:22:38. > :22:39.of the Sheffield Labour MP Harry Harpham, and decision
:22:40. > :22:41.of the Labour MP for Ogmore in Wales, Huw Irranca-Davies
:22:42. > :22:43.to run as a candidate Here's the Labour chief whip moving
:22:44. > :22:48.the writ in the Commons, in the traditional way,
:22:49. > :22:58.for the second of those elections. I beg to move that Mr Speaker do
:22:59. > :23:03.issue his warrant to the clerk of the Crown to make out a new rate for
:23:04. > :23:14.the electing of a member to serve in this present Parliament for the
:23:15. > :23:17.county constituency of Ogmore, in the right of Mr Davies, who since
:23:18. > :23:22.his election to the said constituency has been appointed to
:23:23. > :23:23.the office of Stewart and Bailiff of Her Majesty's manner of Northstead
:23:24. > :23:26.in the County of York. And those by-elections will be held
:23:27. > :23:29.on the same day as elections to the Welsh Assembly,
:23:30. > :23:31.Scottish Parliament and local councils in England,
:23:32. > :23:33.namely Thursday the 5th of May. Now, the end of the week provides
:23:34. > :23:38.a regular opportunity for some humorous exchanges in the chamber
:23:39. > :23:44.between the Leader of the Commons, Chris Grayling,
:23:45. > :23:46.and his opposite number Chris But this week it was
:23:47. > :23:49.the deputies doing the job. When Labour's Melanie Onn started,
:23:50. > :23:52.she made a passing reference to the internal Labour party list
:23:53. > :23:54.seized on by David Cameron at Prime Minister's
:23:55. > :23:57.Questions on Wednesday. This list placed Labour MPs
:23:58. > :24:01.in different categories, such as, 'Hostile',
:24:02. > :24:05.'Core Group' or 'neutral'. Mr Speaker, I welcome that today
:24:06. > :24:07.we have three women speaking for their parties in
:24:08. > :24:10.Business Questions, and I will be doing my best to
:24:11. > :24:14.avoid being hostile. When I found out that
:24:15. > :24:17.I was standing in for today's Business Questions I was concerned
:24:18. > :24:20.that I might have nothing to talk So much has happened that
:24:21. > :24:27.I have made my own list. It has been a truly dismal
:24:28. > :24:33.week for the Government. Ever since the Ozzy-shambles budget
:24:34. > :24:37.they have been in complete Her constituency and mine
:24:38. > :24:44.have similar attributes Fishing is important,
:24:45. > :24:47.and green energy offers While she has not yet knocked
:24:48. > :24:52.the Honorourable Member for Rhondda off his perch, she has
:24:53. > :24:55.shown she is a dab hand That said, Mr Speaker,
:24:56. > :24:59.as the Honourable Lady is in the hostile gang and it seems
:25:00. > :25:03.that the Honorourable Member for Rhondda has been neutered,
:25:04. > :25:07.she will have to put her skates on to get back in the good books
:25:08. > :25:14.of Captain Birdseye. And how about a debate
:25:15. > :25:16.on the importance of unity The SNP could lead it and others
:25:17. > :25:22.could learn about how to inspire The people of Scotland know
:25:23. > :25:29.we are a party that puts people first, not personal ambition,
:25:30. > :25:32.and that is why they are backing us Tasmina Ahmed-Shikh
:25:33. > :25:35.bringing us to our close. That's it, not just for this
:25:36. > :25:38.programme but for this term. MPs and peers are now
:25:39. > :25:40.off for two weeks. The daily round-up will be back
:25:41. > :25:47.when Parliament gets back, from me, Keith Macdougall,
:25:48. > :25:50.goodbye and have a good Easter.