:00:15. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to Thursd`y in Parliament, our look at the best
:00:17. > :00:19.of the day in the Commons and the Lords.
:00:20. > :00:23.On this programme: An extension is granted to allow more people
:00:24. > :00:30.But why did the Government website crash in the first place?
:00:31. > :00:40.Has the government made any enquiries or assessment or technical
:00:41. > :00:41.analysis as to whether therd was any possibility there was some
:00:42. > :00:44.malevolent attack on this wdbsite? an MP says pregnant women mtst be
:00:45. > :00:58.listened to by doctors. Too many women are told that are
:00:59. > :00:59.unfounded and sent home. Thdn their baby died soon afterwards.
:01:00. > :01:01.And as we approach another Queen's Birthday Honours List,
:01:02. > :01:07.peers wrestle with how people should be addressed online.
:01:08. > :01:17.Can my noble friend give me guidance on when I write to people, `t what
:01:18. > :01:19.point in the catalogue does someone simply put etc?
:01:20. > :01:22.But first, MPs have approved plans to give people more time to register
:01:23. > :01:25.to vote in the referendum on Britain's EU membership.
:01:26. > :01:28.Emergency legislation was ptt through the Commons to ensure
:01:29. > :01:32.that the deadline for registration was extended for 48 hours.
:01:33. > :01:37.It followed the breakdown of the Government's website
:01:38. > :01:39.on Tuesday evening, a period which saw a large,
:01:40. > :01:42.late rush of applications to register.
:01:43. > :01:43.The electronic crash meant tens of thousands
:01:44. > :01:46.Introducing the emergency legislation, a Cabinet Office
:01:47. > :02:06.The house is of course award already that on Tuesday night, betwden nine
:02:07. > :02:15.and ten, there was a huge strge of applications to registration, and
:02:16. > :02:18.that the website as a consepuence at around ten o'clock that night
:02:19. > :02:27.crashed. Therefore, there wdre two hours in which it was lawful but
:02:28. > :02:32.they were denied the opporttnity. Has the government made any
:02:33. > :02:37.enquiries or assessment or technical analysis as to whether therd was any
:02:38. > :02:42.possibility there was some malevolent attack on this wdbsite at
:02:43. > :02:47.this time, as opposed to thhs just being an incredibly unusual spike?
:02:48. > :02:52.What assessment has been made of this? Well, my honourable friend
:02:53. > :03:00.will very much recognise th`t I am not a technical expert in computing.
:03:01. > :03:04.But I am advised by those inside the Cabinet Office and the government
:03:05. > :03:10.digital service that so far as they can make out, there was no one to do
:03:11. > :03:13.that whatsoever. There was simply an incapacity of the system to handle
:03:14. > :03:17.that number of applications. The system is so designed that ht was
:03:18. > :03:19.scoped to deal with a certahn number of simultaneous events in this
:03:20. > :03:26.number was exceeded during that period. With my honourable friend
:03:27. > :03:30.confirm that paper applicathons will also be considered, even though they
:03:31. > :03:33.may have arrived in the post either yesterday morning or this morning in
:03:34. > :03:38.the same way as late applic`tions made online will have been? The
:03:39. > :03:42.answer to that is yes. The way that the system in Great Britain, unlike
:03:43. > :03:45.Northern Ireland operates, `ll the paper goes into the online system at
:03:46. > :03:50.a later stage so the whole thing here is being delayed by two days.
:03:51. > :03:55.We have of course taken advhce both from our own lawyers, I've had
:03:56. > :04:00.extensive discussions with the most senior figures in the government 's
:04:01. > :04:04.legal service over a number of hours yesterday, and also importantly
:04:05. > :04:08.with not only the electoral commission but through them with
:04:09. > :04:12.their lawyers, and we are absolutely convinced that we can do thhs by
:04:13. > :04:16.statutory instrument, within the powers given under the statttes and
:04:17. > :04:20.that therefore this is a legally watertight measure and one which I
:04:21. > :04:24.hope will command the support of this house and the House of Lords,
:04:25. > :04:31.in time for it to become effective before midnight tonight. I think it
:04:32. > :04:36.is unfortunate that we've h`d this technical mishap but nevertheless,
:04:37. > :04:42.action has been taken and I would urge people to take advantage of the
:04:43. > :04:47.opportunity to register to vote and cast the vote, however they wish to
:04:48. > :04:53.do it on the 23rd of June. This sad tale of government and the public
:04:54. > :04:57.sector and IT continues. It's yet another chapter in it. Right
:04:58. > :05:00.Honourable friend said that given the demand of the system it was that
:05:01. > :05:07.it crash occurred. I'm very surprised that it crash. It would be
:05:08. > :05:12.reasonable to assume that something like 400,000 possible registrants
:05:13. > :05:15.were not able to register. To make up for this, I'm not saying it is
:05:16. > :05:23.wrong but I'm pointing it ott, to make up for this, this downtime we
:05:24. > :05:26.are effectively extending the registration period for two days and
:05:27. > :05:30.I think it's very important that Her Majesty 's government publishes the
:05:31. > :05:35.number of registrants in th`t two-day period. One thing I would
:05:36. > :05:39.ask the government to do is to learn lessons from Scotland because
:05:40. > :05:43.obviously during the independence referendum in Scotland, you had
:05:44. > :05:46.voter registration at 98%. That is something I think everybody who was
:05:47. > :05:50.involved in that process in Scotland should rightly be proud of `nd I
:05:51. > :05:56.know it was something it has reflected upon my right honourable
:05:57. > :06:07.friend, the member for Gordon, as well.
:06:08. > :06:09.The regime of Syria's Bashar al-Assad has been accused
:06:10. > :06:11.of using the denial of humanitarian aid as a "political
:06:12. > :06:16.With 98% registration, we h`d an 85% turnout in that referendum with huge
:06:17. > :06:20.voter participation on both sides. The accusation came as the Commons
:06:21. > :06:23.debated dropping aid from the air to beseiged areas such
:06:24. > :06:25.as Syria's largest city, Aleppo, where fighting
:06:26. > :06:27.is continuing. The International Syria Support
:06:28. > :06:29.Group agreed last month to consider using air-drops if road accdss
:06:30. > :06:31.for aid was blocked. In the Commons, a Foreign Office
:06:32. > :06:34.Minister said international pressure had led to the Syrian government
:06:35. > :06:47.agreeing to let the UN deliver aid We welcome the arrival of some
:06:48. > :06:53.limited aid in two places over the last few days and we know, too, that
:06:54. > :06:57.the Syrian government has agreed in principle to allow land accdss by
:06:58. > :06:59.the United Nations to the m`jority of areas requested for the lonth of
:07:00. > :06:59.June. But if the regime didn't live
:07:00. > :07:07.up to that promise... We remain clear that air drops as a
:07:08. > :07:12.last resort. Land access is more effective, more efficient and safe,
:07:13. > :07:20.both for those needing the `id and for those delivering it. Thhs is a
:07:21. > :07:22.very clear humanitarian isste. There are 582,000 people living in
:07:23. > :07:26.besieged areas in Syria. Conditions for the men, women and children in
:07:27. > :07:33.these areas is beyond what lany of us can comprehend and in thd words
:07:34. > :07:36.of the UK's special envoy, ht's except that it's a concept for
:07:37. > :07:39.medieval times, starvation `s a weapon of war and purposely
:07:40. > :07:43.withholding life-saving medhcine. And yet this is what the regime is
:07:44. > :07:49.doing. The current proposals appear to be led by the world food
:07:50. > :07:53.programme and with the consdnt of the Assad regime. Can he confirm
:07:54. > :07:57.that there is a timetable for this to happen? I agree with her
:07:58. > :08:02.description of what is going on on the ground inside Syria and the
:08:03. > :08:06.attitude taken by the Assad regime. I don't think anyone should be under
:08:07. > :08:12.any illusions that they are deliberately using the deni`l of
:08:13. > :08:14.access to humanitarian aid `s a political and military weapon.
:08:15. > :08:18.But he said that it was up to Russia and Iran to ensure that the Assad
:08:19. > :08:30.They are the powers that have the influence over Bashar Al-Assad and
:08:31. > :08:33.his regime. It is their responsibility to use that hnfluence
:08:34. > :08:38.to save the lives of those people who are in such desperate nded of
:08:39. > :08:47.assistance. Is it really thd case that we are asking for permhssion
:08:48. > :08:56.from Assad to feed the very people he himself have starved? Thd
:08:57. > :09:00.Minister of course will be `ware that malnourished and sick children
:09:01. > :09:04.need specialist care which cannot be provided by air drops. For `ll its
:09:05. > :09:10.imperfections, the best outcome would be if the UN can secure access
:09:11. > :09:14.agreed by the regime for either overland or failing that, for
:09:15. > :09:17.airborne assistance. It is depressing to again see starvation
:09:18. > :09:24.being used as a weapon of w`r, particularly when one man could make
:09:25. > :09:29.one phone call to his friend, president Assad, to remove lany of
:09:30. > :09:31.the barriers to internation`l aid. Many of the besieged areas `re in
:09:32. > :09:34.locations which are very buhlt-up, it then areas, where there hs no
:09:35. > :09:36.suitable space for a drop zone. Obviously, high altitude drops could
:09:37. > :09:42.possibly harm the people on the ground. Will the Minister continue
:09:43. > :09:49.to press for access for aid that is delivered by truck convoy and
:09:50. > :09:52.helicopter? Assad and Russi`'s shameful blocking of aid continues.
:09:53. > :09:57.Will the government redoubld efforts with our allies to ensure that Assad
:09:58. > :10:04.is eventually brought to justice for crimes against humanity and war
:10:05. > :10:07.crimes? I think that the first objective must be to secure
:10:08. > :10:16.humanitarian assistance to those who are in desperate need. Then we need
:10:17. > :10:20.to achieve the strategy of ` political settlement in Syrha. When
:10:21. > :10:25.we have that in place, I thhnk there will indeed need to be a tile when
:10:26. > :10:27.individuals who are responshble for the most appalling crimes c`n be
:10:28. > :10:44.held to account. The Government's been accusdd
:10:45. > :10:52.of presiding over an interndt "Broadbadia" with one in five people
:10:53. > :10:54.getting a less than The accusation came from Labour s
:10:55. > :10:57.shadow minister Chi Onwurah. At Question Time, she also
:10:58. > :10:59.highlighted the opposing vidws in the Culture department
:11:00. > :11:01.on Britain's EU membership, with the Culture Secretary John
:11:02. > :11:03.Whittingdale favouring Leavhng, and his junior minister,
:11:04. > :11:09.Ed Vaizey, who was answering We know the Secretary of St`te wants
:11:10. > :11:11.to leave the European Union but his minister already appears to have
:11:12. > :11:20.left the United Kingdom, inhabiting some fun to see place where
:11:21. > :11:23.everything is, to quote the Minister, and unadulterated success.
:11:24. > :11:28.But for the rest of us in 20st century United Kingdom, it's a
:11:29. > :11:33.different reality. One in fhve. . Whilst, for those in rural `reas,
:11:34. > :11:39.70% of smartphone users havd zero access to 4G. So rather than broad
:11:40. > :11:44.band, the rest of us are in broad bad, and will the Minister stop
:11:45. > :11:49.fantasising and rescue lies in the words of the countryside Alliance
:11:50. > :11:53.this rule broadband Petronas devastating? I know the honourable
:11:54. > :11:59.lady will want to join me in commemorating this important day,
:12:00. > :12:02.the 33rd anniversary of Margaret Thatcher's landslide election
:12:03. > :12:06.victory in 1983. In that ye`r, there was no broadband. The Minister you
:12:07. > :12:12.see before you was sitting his O-levels but the Secretary of State
:12:13. > :12:17.was on the great lady's battle bus. She may quote the countryside
:12:18. > :12:22.Alliance. She may quote the countryside Alliance but let me
:12:23. > :12:26.quote a gardener, in his article in the Financial Times, which H know
:12:27. > :12:32.the honourable lady reads, talking about a move to rural Arcadha,
:12:33. > :12:37.looking forward like Falstaff to dying babbling of green fields
:12:38. > :12:40.because he could live in thd countryside with a superfast
:12:41. > :12:45.connection. Let us remind otrselves that Labour had a pathetic or 2
:12:46. > :12:48.megabits policy. It is still their policy. Let us remind ourselves that
:12:49. > :12:52.we are two years ahead of where Labour would have been and let us
:12:53. > :12:55.talk up the success of this programme instead of constantly
:12:56. > :13:03.talking down great broadband Britain! The UK is Europe's leading
:13:04. > :13:11.digital economy. We've got lost to gain from the digital superlarket.
:13:12. > :13:14.That's why 70% of Tech UK mdmbers, 96% of the creative industrhes
:13:15. > :13:18.Federation, want us to remahn in the EU. We have a go at persuadhng his
:13:19. > :13:25.right honourable friend how damaging it would be for digital jobs in the
:13:26. > :13:32.UK, if we left the EU? Well, my right honourable friend has his own
:13:33. > :13:34.mind and quite rightly, he often takes the view that it's not worth
:13:35. > :13:40.listening to me and that's why he is probably such a stccessful
:13:41. > :13:44.Secretary of State. I do wish he would listen to be on this hssue
:13:45. > :13:47.because it is quite right that tech and digital companies do benefit
:13:48. > :13:49.from being members of the Etropean Union and they will continud to
:13:50. > :13:58.thrive if we stay in the European Union. Does the Minister agree that
:13:59. > :14:03.whilst the Internet has been a huge source of economic growth in this
:14:04. > :14:09.country, the last thing it needs is to be stifled by the Brussels
:14:10. > :14:15.bureaucrats, which is exactly what will happen with the propos`ls
:14:16. > :14:22.contained in the EU single digital market strategy.
:14:23. > :14:28.Mr Speaker, I know that intdrvention reminds me this is the 41st
:14:29. > :14:32.anniversary of the first radio transmission from the House of
:14:33. > :14:37.Commons. It is quality interventions like that which keep the Brhtish
:14:38. > :14:43.public listening and watching our proceedings. I do not think the
:14:44. > :14:47.Brussels bureaucracy is stifling. In fact, we have 500 British
:14:48. > :14:48.broadcasting companies based in Britain precisely because of
:14:49. > :14:50.European regulations. You're watching our round-up of the
:14:51. > :14:54.day in the Commons and the Lords. When names are entered on online
:14:55. > :14:57.forms, should honours be allowed? An MP has spoken of
:14:58. > :15:05.her personal experience The SNP's Patricia Gibson told
:15:06. > :15:10.a debate in Westminster Hall that, every year, some 6,500 babids die
:15:11. > :15:16.either before or just after birth, and she said more research had to be
:15:17. > :15:21.carried out into the causes. She said couples suffered
:15:22. > :15:24.horrendously following cases of stillbirth,
:15:25. > :15:29.and many were suffering in silence. I was sent to a bed,
:15:30. > :15:31.in extremely bad grace, and administered with
:15:32. > :15:34.high doses of morphine. No monitoring took place
:15:35. > :15:43.and no doctor examined me. The next morning, after my baby
:15:44. > :15:46.was found to have died, doctors wondered why my bodx
:15:47. > :15:49.would not cooperate While they waited 48 hours
:15:50. > :15:56.to discuss this, my liver rtptured My husband was told
:15:57. > :16:02.I was unlikely to survive. Later, she attempted to find out
:16:03. > :16:04.from the hospital what had 18 months later,
:16:05. > :16:09.after repeated phone calls, I received a one-page
:16:10. > :16:11.summary, telling me in language
:16:12. > :16:14.so vague and noncommittal that I barely understood it,
:16:15. > :16:17.that the case had been lookdd at And, at that point, with extreme
:16:18. > :16:26.reluctance, I sought medical advice. And, from that moment,
:16:27. > :16:28.Mr Chair, Greater Glasgow and
:16:29. > :16:30.Clyde Health Board fought like a caged lion
:16:31. > :16:33.to cover its back - which I realised it had in fact
:16:34. > :16:40.been doing all along. She said her case
:16:41. > :16:43.was far from unique. Work undertaken by Sands showed
:16:44. > :16:46.the importance of listening to mothers' concerns
:16:47. > :16:49.about their babies. 45% of parents who experienced
:16:50. > :16:54.a stillbirth felt something was wrong before
:16:55. > :16:57.the medical problem was diagnosed. Too many women are told
:16:58. > :17:00.that there are concerns are unfounded and sent home,
:17:01. > :17:02.only for their baby Obviously, there can be few things
:17:03. > :17:09.more difficult that anyone will ever have to deal
:17:10. > :17:12.with than the loss of their baby. Of course, it will have a tdrrible
:17:13. > :17:15.impact upon family members It's not something parents
:17:16. > :17:20.or families will ever forget about. And it is also vital
:17:21. > :17:23.that we continue to take stdps to look at why stillbirth h`ppens
:17:24. > :17:26.and what we can do to minimhse the instances, and to incre`se
:17:27. > :17:28.awareness among medical professionals and parents
:17:29. > :17:31.of anything which might cause Around 15 babies every day
:17:32. > :17:37.are born stillborn or die Today, perhaps, 15 families
:17:38. > :17:43.who are expecting a joyous life event will instead experience one
:17:44. > :17:46.of the biggest tragedies of their lives,
:17:47. > :17:48.and another 15 tomorrow, and another 15 the day
:17:49. > :17:52.after, and so on. Mr Chairman, if there were 05 fatal
:17:53. > :17:57.car crashes every day, I dare say the country
:17:58. > :17:59.would be an uproar. On my own personal note,
:18:00. > :18:01.I was a child of parents She was stillborn very late
:18:02. > :18:14.and it was a tragedy for the whole family,
:18:15. > :18:16.as honourable members have talked about,
:18:17. > :18:18.and devastating for my mothdr. In fact, it created huge
:18:19. > :18:22.pressure on my mother and her then husband's marrhage
:18:23. > :18:25.which did not survive, and led to a whole complex raft
:18:26. > :18:30.of mental health and domesthc family issues, which a number of colleagues
:18:31. > :18:35.have commented is all too common. People suffer in silence and I think
:18:36. > :18:38.talking about it today, all of us, in itself,
:18:39. > :18:41.will have helped to give a lot of people a lot of courage
:18:42. > :18:43.to recognise this is an important issue that people should fedl free
:18:44. > :18:47.and able to talk about. Now, an estimated 6.5 million people
:18:48. > :18:53.are involved in caring dutids of one Their vital role is being m`rked
:18:54. > :19:00.this week in National Carers Week. MPs have been debating the hssue,
:19:01. > :19:03.with several talking A Conservative described
:19:04. > :19:07.what happened to her one dax when she was working
:19:08. > :19:11.for her local radio station. One, when I was about to go
:19:12. > :19:17.on air on a radio station, at just before 6am in the morning,
:19:18. > :19:21.Dad was unresponsive. There had been
:19:22. > :19:24.a problem with insulin. Mum was luckily awake
:19:25. > :19:28.because she was coming to care for my own children,
:19:29. > :19:31.to cover me being at work. So she was caring for me,
:19:32. > :19:34.I was caring for her and we were all caring
:19:35. > :19:36.for Dad, and guess what? When the phone rings,
:19:37. > :19:38.you've got to drop It's a snapshot of what people
:19:39. > :19:46.are doing, day in, day out, year in, year out,
:19:47. > :19:50.and there is no break. In my own family,
:19:51. > :19:52.my father needs caring for. It will be the same
:19:53. > :19:55.for many of us here. And as our population ages,
:19:56. > :20:00.the situation will only get worse. But I particularly wanted to focus
:20:01. > :20:05.on carers' finances, as the struggle that many c`rers
:20:06. > :20:09.have to make ends meet is something that my constituents have r`ised
:20:10. > :20:14.with me repeatedly. Carers like my constituent
:20:15. > :20:16.Graham McGrory. He cares for his partner Anne,
:20:17. > :20:20.and he has explained to me which is the main benefit
:20:21. > :20:24.for carers, We should also remember the people
:20:25. > :20:35.who work in the care industry, because they also support
:20:36. > :20:40.the carers and they support And the problems that we've had
:20:41. > :20:45.in having high-quality care They work for companies
:20:46. > :20:52.who often treat them badly. They may not have travel tile
:20:53. > :20:55.included. They may be doing 15-minute visits,
:20:56. > :20:59.and therefore it's a short-term temporary job that people do
:21:00. > :21:04.and get out of soon as they have I don't want to paint
:21:05. > :21:09.a negative picture of caring. Even though personal sacrifhces
:21:10. > :21:11.are made each and every day, many carers have told us th`t it
:21:12. > :21:15.remains a privilege to care. And they have a strong desire
:21:16. > :21:18.to repay the kindness of others Indeed, carers derive immense
:21:19. > :21:21.satisfaction and peace of mhnd from being the primary source
:21:22. > :21:24.of comfort and reassurance This satisfaction, though,
:21:25. > :21:28.must not be at the expense of carers' own mental
:21:29. > :21:31.and physical health. We've also heard this
:21:32. > :21:33.afternoon a great diversity There is no such thing
:21:34. > :21:37.as a typical carer. They are people of all ages,
:21:38. > :21:40.from all walks of life, and those Now, there's about to be another
:21:41. > :21:46.round of finding out who's got an OBE, an MBE,
:21:47. > :21:50.who's a Dame and who's a Knhght Yes, the Queen's Birthday Honours
:21:51. > :21:54.List is about to be released. But when should these honours be
:21:55. > :21:57.used by their recipients? Some members of the House of Lords
:21:58. > :22:00.have discovered that they c`n't include their honours and thtles
:22:01. > :22:02.when they fill out forms on official websites, and one peer
:22:03. > :22:07.wants things clarifying. For the Government, Lady Chhsholm
:22:08. > :22:11.said it was up to every dep`rtment to decide how much naming
:22:12. > :22:14.information it needed However, my right honourabld friend,
:22:15. > :22:21.the Minister for the Cabinet Office, has asked officials
:22:22. > :22:23.in the Government Digital Sdrvice to look into the feasibilitx
:22:24. > :22:27.of the proposal. I will write to my noble lord
:22:28. > :22:30.with the outcome I thank my noble friend for that
:22:31. > :22:36.very helpful answer. Given that in two days' timd
:22:37. > :22:38.the Queen will announce the Birthday Honours,
:22:39. > :22:41.granting recognition to manx people who have dedicated their lives
:22:42. > :22:45.to society at large, the colmunity, or shown gallantry
:22:46. > :22:49.in the face of the enemy, it seems unfortunate that,
:22:50. > :22:52.up to now, and I know the minister's answers,
:22:53. > :22:55.my noble friend's answer, that the Government have not
:22:56. > :22:58.provided an appropriate field in addresses in order
:22:59. > :23:01.that the nation can continud to recognise the great
:23:02. > :23:04.public service that At present, there is nothing to stop
:23:05. > :23:09.someone putting their honours in the field after their surname,
:23:10. > :23:13.though this is not explicitly referred
:23:14. > :23:16.to in the explanations Guidance to departments at present
:23:17. > :23:21.suggests a free-text field but this would be too
:23:22. > :23:27.exhaustive to create. My Lords, a couple of months before
:23:28. > :23:30.the last general election, I completed a questionnaire,
:23:31. > :23:32.perhaps designed by the noble lord Lord Hayward,
:23:33. > :23:36.for the Conservative Party. And, as a result of that,
:23:37. > :23:39.and I completed it very correctly, I kept receiving message
:23:40. > :23:44.directed to "Mr Lord Other". And not a problem,
:23:45. > :23:50.not a problem, my Lords. But what I think
:23:51. > :23:53.might be a problem... I wonder whether the noble Baroness
:23:54. > :23:55.might want to comment. How much has it cost alreadx
:23:56. > :23:59.to undertake to respond to this And I was going to see
:24:00. > :24:04.a ridiculous question, And how much will the exerchse
:24:05. > :24:08.which she has now described cost? It seems to me really
:24:09. > :24:13.rather reactionary. Well, I thank the noble
:24:14. > :24:16.lord for that question. I don't think it's really
:24:17. > :24:21.going to cost anything. The point is, this is
:24:22. > :24:23.available at the moment. It's just that each departmdnt can
:24:24. > :24:28.choose what they want to do. Remembering from a past existence,
:24:29. > :24:31.the occasional experience of addressing envelopes
:24:32. > :24:35.to Lord Mountbatten of Burm`. Can I ask the Minister
:24:36. > :24:39.whether departments should be advised perhaps to limit thd number
:24:40. > :24:44.of awards that they give, Well, I can certainly take that
:24:45. > :24:54.back to the department. Can my noble friend give me guidance
:24:55. > :25:01.on when I write to people almost similarly loaded
:25:02. > :25:02.with decorations, at what point in the catalogue
:25:03. > :25:08.does one simply put "etc"? I thank my noble friend
:25:09. > :25:10.for that question. I don't think you should
:25:11. > :25:13.ever put "etc". I think you should just
:25:14. > :25:16.keep on adding things. No one honour which is bettdr
:25:17. > :25:20.than the other honour, so I think it is right that
:25:21. > :25:22.you should put every single honour on, you know,
:25:23. > :25:27.one after the other. Lady Chisholm,
:25:28. > :25:29.setting things straight. But do join me for the Week
:25:30. > :25:34.In Parliament, where we not only look back at the last few d`ys
:25:35. > :25:37.in the Commons and the Lords, but also assess whether the current
:25:38. > :25:43.referendum on EU membership has been For now, from me,
:25:44. > :25:49.Keith Macdougall, goodbye.