:00:14. > :00:16.Hello and welcome to Thursd`y in Parliament, our look at the best
:00:17. > :00:18.of the day in the Commons and the Lords.
:00:19. > :00:22.The best way to improve social mobility?
:00:23. > :00:28.Opinions are sharply divided on grammar schools.
:00:29. > :00:33.Would the Secretary of Statd like to visit Northern Ireland, where
:00:34. > :00:41.grammar schools still exist and are hugely popular. Where there is good
:00:42. > :00:50.education. People moved to Kent because of its grammar schools. This
:00:51. > :00:51.possible and entrenched this inequality and disadvantage. --
:00:52. > :00:53.entrench inequality. Peers voice their concerns
:00:54. > :00:55.about what Brexit means for the border between
:00:56. > :01:07.the Irish Republic and Northern Isn't it unthinkable in and either
:01:08. > :01:08.of jihadism that the only l`nd border between the UK and ET would
:01:09. > :01:11.be completely open? An MP says we're all at risk
:01:12. > :01:23.from the crafty scammer. All of us are overconfident about
:01:24. > :01:24.our ability to spot a scam. That makes us, ironically, all the more
:01:25. > :01:27.vulnerable. But first, Justine Greening has said
:01:28. > :01:29.the Government is not plannhng a return to an education system
:01:30. > :01:33.of "winners and losers". The new Education Secretary faced
:01:34. > :01:35.questions in the Commons following the news that
:01:36. > :01:37.Prime Minister Theresa May favours the reintroduction of gramm`r
:01:38. > :01:40.schools in certain areas. Many hundreds of grammars
:01:41. > :01:43.were closed down across in Dngland in the 1970s and replaced
:01:44. > :01:47.by comprehensive schools as the controversial
:01:48. > :01:50."11-plus" examination, which determined a pupil's
:01:51. > :01:52.academic ability, was seen In the Commons, Justine Gredning,
:01:53. > :01:58.herself educated at a comprdhensive in South Yorkshire, told MPs
:01:59. > :02:06.she was open-minded about sdlection. She said the world of education
:02:07. > :02:08.had seen many changes We now have a whole variety
:02:09. > :02:16.of educational offers avail`ble There will be no return
:02:17. > :02:19.to the simplistic binary choice of the past, where schools separate
:02:20. > :02:22.children into winners and losers, This Government wants
:02:23. > :02:29.to focus on the future. To build on our success since 2 10
:02:30. > :02:32.and to create a truly But we want a system that c`n cater
:02:33. > :02:39.for the talent and the abilhties So, to achieve that,
:02:40. > :02:43.we need a truly diverse range More good schools were needdd
:02:44. > :02:57.in more areas of the countrx. I expect any new proposals to focus
:02:58. > :03:01.on what we can do to help everyone to go as far as their own individual
:03:02. > :03:04.talents and capacity for hard Education policy, to that end,
:03:05. > :03:07.will be set in due course. Despite that waffle,
:03:08. > :03:15.the cat is finally out of the bag. The Government has revealed
:03:16. > :03:18.their plans for new grammar schools in England but not
:03:19. > :03:20.in this House, Mr Speaker. We did not even hear the word
:03:21. > :03:23."grammar" there, but it was through leaks
:03:24. > :03:26.to the press and at a private So much for the one nation
:03:27. > :03:38.government that we were prolised. She said pushing ahead with grammar
:03:39. > :03:43.schools showed a misunderst`nding The Prime Minister has said this
:03:44. > :03:47.policy is justified because we Quite how making things worse
:03:48. > :03:51.by bringing back grammar schools Perhaps the Secretary of St`te can
:03:52. > :03:55.tell us why she is ensuring that all children don't
:03:56. > :03:57.get a decent education. This policy will not help social
:03:58. > :04:00.mobility, Mr Speaker, but will entrench
:04:01. > :04:03.inequality and disadvantage. It will be the lucky few
:04:04. > :04:07.who can afford the tuition that will get ahead,
:04:08. > :04:08.and the disadvantaged A policy for the few
:04:09. > :04:17.at the expense of the many. It was really interesting lhstening
:04:18. > :04:28.to a her. Her words were really, in m`ny
:04:29. > :04:31.respects, the ones that I hdard People having a dogmatic debate
:04:32. > :04:34.about the education system whilst I studied in my local comprdhensive,
:04:35. > :04:36.entirely untouched What we want to do and what we think
:04:37. > :04:41.this Parliament and country should do is to be prepared to look
:04:42. > :04:44.at the practical ways we can improve And to be prepared to leave no stone
:04:45. > :04:48.unturned to do that. And, frankly, to complain about one
:04:49. > :04:53.aspect of our school system and then say that we should not even
:04:54. > :04:57.have a debate about that eldment The World Economic Forum has
:04:58. > :05:03.recently reminded us that we are well down the t`bles
:05:04. > :05:07.in terms of literacy and nuleracy. In fact, some 20% of 16
:05:08. > :05:10.to 18-year-olds struggle with literacy and the figurd
:05:11. > :05:17.is even worse for numeracy. 25%, according to the World Economic
:05:18. > :05:19.Forum. So, does the Secretary of State
:05:20. > :05:22.agree with me that it is absolutely necessary for any discussion
:05:23. > :05:29.about grammar schools not to distract us from that fundamental
:05:30. > :05:35.task that we have of improvhng social mobility and making sure
:05:36. > :05:37.that we make the best use of all the talent across thd whole
:05:38. > :05:40.country and not just Apart from the best possibld
:05:41. > :05:43.teaching, the most important thing we can do for our young people
:05:44. > :05:47.is to encourage them as thex make Given that we still as a nation
:05:48. > :05:52.are dealing with the legacy of a divided education systdm,
:05:53. > :05:55.why on earth does she think that subjecting more 11-year-old
:05:56. > :06:02.children to that experience, with their tearful parents,
:06:03. > :06:04.having opened the envelope, telling them that they have failed,
:06:05. > :06:07.is going to encourage and stpport them in their self-esteem
:06:08. > :06:12.and continuing career The Secretary of State is qtite
:06:13. > :06:26.right not to rule out a discussion on grammar schools as part
:06:27. > :06:29.of a wide type of schools And I declare an interest
:06:30. > :06:33.as a product of a wonderful But would the Secretary of State
:06:34. > :06:37.like to visit Northern Irel`nd, where grammar schools still exist,
:06:38. > :06:40.where they are hugely popul`r, where there is good education right
:06:41. > :06:42.across the spectrum, no matter what the ability
:06:43. > :06:44.of the young person is? And indeed that Northern Irdland's
:06:45. > :06:47.results continue to improve and be better than the rest
:06:48. > :06:49.of United Kingdom. I welcome the Secretary
:06:50. > :06:51.of State's comments this All children have the right
:06:52. > :06:54.to fulfil their full potenthal. Will the Secretary of State assure
:06:55. > :07:00.the House that she all methods of selection and this
:07:01. > :07:03.not about bringing back the 11-plus? Well, we will set out
:07:04. > :07:05.policies much more broadly, but I can assure you,
:07:06. > :07:08.Mr Speaker, that there will be This is about having
:07:09. > :07:24.a 21st-century approach. She represents
:07:25. > :07:25.a London constituency. She will know that London schools
:07:26. > :07:27.have improved dramatically over Does she agree with me that
:07:28. > :07:31.that is happening because of focus on high standards for all children
:07:32. > :07:34.in all schools, not by going down I urge her today not to go back
:07:35. > :07:39.not to turn the clock back to grammar schools but to focus
:07:40. > :07:42.on high standards in all schools, in all parts of the country,
:07:43. > :07:44.for all children. I am sure that many across Torbay,
:07:45. > :07:47.where three grammar schools work perfectly well with comprehdnsive
:07:48. > :07:49.schools, a studio school and a very successful technical collegd
:07:50. > :07:51.will have been listening to some of the comments today, parthcularly
:07:52. > :07:54.from the Shadow Education Sdcretary, Would she agree with me
:07:55. > :07:57.that it is really nothing r`dical to say that we will give other areas
:07:58. > :08:00.the chance to choose to have the education systel Torbay
:08:01. > :08:05.already benefit from? My right honourable friend will know
:08:06. > :08:07.that people moved to Kent Does she agree that it is not right
:08:08. > :08:13.for an excellent academic education to only be available to those
:08:14. > :08:16.who can move to the catchment areas We do need to improve
:08:17. > :08:27.diversity and choice. As the Prime Minister said,
:08:28. > :08:29.the reality is that too often in Britain,
:08:30. > :08:31.we do have selection, but it is Which is totally unacceptable
:08:32. > :08:37.in a modern Britain. The arguments are
:08:38. > :08:39.likely to continue. The new Secretary of State
:08:40. > :08:42.for International Trade, Li`m Fox, has made his first appearance
:08:43. > :08:46.at the Commons despatch box. Mr Fox's team were challengdd over
:08:47. > :08:49.their stance on Britain rem`ining The International Trade Secretary
:08:50. > :08:52.was also pressed over his department's capacity to negotiate
:08:53. > :08:54.trade deals with countries My department already has a strong
:08:55. > :09:11.and capable trade policy te`m, In the next two years,
:09:12. > :09:16.we will be developing that team to build the world-class negotiating
:09:17. > :09:19.strengths needed to deliver the best And in terms of negotiators,
:09:20. > :09:22.we have already had strong expressions of
:09:23. > :09:24.interest from individuals, Can the Secretary of State confirm
:09:25. > :09:30.whether he is likely to hird any consultants to manage
:09:31. > :09:33.these trade negotiations? Because, as I understand it,
:09:34. > :09:36.according to a headhunter I was speaking to a couple of weeks
:09:37. > :09:39.ago, the head of a trade Not for my purposes!
:09:40. > :09:51.Not for mine. According to a headhunter
:09:52. > :09:57.I was talking to a couple of weeks ago, the head of a trade negotiating
:09:58. > :10:03.team, if hired as a consult`nt, Well, Mr Speaker, it is nicd to see
:10:04. > :10:12.the Lib Dems are looking forward to repeating the election stccess
:10:13. > :10:16.in the next election. I always think it is nice
:10:17. > :10:18.for politicians I can say to the honourable
:10:19. > :10:25.gentleman that we are not intending to create a standing army
:10:26. > :10:27.of bureaucrats that would bd We are looking to see how most
:10:28. > :10:32.effectively we can create the skills and the calibre
:10:33. > :10:35.of negotiators we will requhre. Under the current EU treaty,
:10:36. > :10:40.the UK does not currently possess competence, that is the right
:10:41. > :10:47.to negotiate separate trade deals. And will he confirm the UK
:10:48. > :10:50.will assume competence not when Article 50 is triggered,
:10:51. > :10:52.but only when the UK actually While we're not able to negotiate
:10:53. > :10:58.in terms of concluding a de`l while we are members
:10:59. > :11:00.of the European Union, there is nothing to stop us having
:11:01. > :11:03.discussions and scoping And I can announce to the House that
:11:04. > :11:08.last week, we have now concluded a deal to set up a trade working
:11:09. > :11:12.group with India to look at how we will remove barriers to trade
:11:13. > :11:15.before we negotiate free-tr`de agreements on our exit
:11:16. > :11:17.from the European Union. Questioning then turned
:11:18. > :11:26.to the single market. Can I ask the minister to ask
:11:27. > :11:30.the Secretary of State if hd stands by his statement from July
:11:31. > :11:32.when he said, if the price of the relationship with thd single
:11:33. > :11:35.market is the free movement of people, it is a price
:11:36. > :11:38.I am not willing to pay. Does he still want to leave
:11:39. > :11:40.the European single Mr Speaker, I refer her
:11:41. > :11:45.to the answer I gave to her But I am going to be quite
:11:46. > :11:50.clear about something. There is going to be no running
:11:51. > :11:52.commentary at this stage And, Mr Speaker, she will know how
:11:53. > :12:00.important that is from the negotiations that we did last
:12:01. > :12:05.year between the UK Governmdnt and the Scottish Government
:12:06. > :12:07.on the fiscal framework, which the Scottish Government
:12:08. > :12:10.understood perfectly well, the importance of not providing
:12:11. > :12:14.a running commentary. No running commentary, Mr Speaker,
:12:15. > :12:16.is politician speak for not So, how is the minister getting
:12:17. > :12:23.on delivering the promise m`de by the Secretary of State
:12:24. > :12:25.for exiting the EU? I quote, the Government will trigger
:12:26. > :12:29.a large round of global trade deals with our most favoured tradd
:12:30. > :12:33.partners by tomorrow. Mr Speaker, I think it is a little
:12:34. > :12:37.bit rich for the benches opposite I noted with interest
:12:38. > :12:42.the Leader of the Opposition He described something
:12:43. > :12:53.called the free-trade But, Mr Speaker, let
:12:54. > :12:56.us be absolutely clear that the Prime Minister said that
:12:57. > :13:00.under her leadership, Britain will seek to become
:13:01. > :13:03.the global leader in free trade The Japanese government havd thrown
:13:04. > :13:09.a huge cold bucket of water over Brexit with the announcement that UK
:13:10. > :13:11.investment from Japan Is access to the single market key
:13:12. > :13:15.to calming Japanese nerves? Mr Speaker, I had a very
:13:16. > :13:17.constructive meeting with the Japanese ambassador
:13:18. > :13:19.earlier this week, and I thhnk it might be worth reiterating
:13:20. > :13:21.to the honourable gentleman There is no indication so f`r I have
:13:22. > :13:28.received from Japanese industries that they are contemplating any exit
:13:29. > :13:31.from the UK economy because they like it
:13:32. > :13:33.here and they have benefited That will continue because
:13:34. > :13:38.the economic fundamentals of this Peers have been assured
:13:39. > :13:44.that Britain's departure from the European Union will not
:13:45. > :13:47.affect the Government's comlitment to the Good Friday Agreement,
:13:48. > :13:51.sometimes called the Belfast Agreement, on the devolution
:13:52. > :13:53.of power in Northern Ireland. Brexit means, for the first time,
:13:54. > :13:57.the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland will be on either shde
:13:58. > :14:00.of a European land border. The Republic joined the European
:14:01. > :14:02.community at the same Fears were expressed
:14:03. > :14:07.during the referendum campahgn that Brexit would mean the border having
:14:08. > :14:10.to have much tighter The future of the Belfast
:14:11. > :14:17.Agreement is not and never The UK's exit from the EU does not
:14:18. > :14:21.change the commitment of thd UK Government and the people
:14:22. > :14:23.of Northern Ireland to the Belfast Agreement
:14:24. > :14:25.and its successors and to The Government will make a success
:14:26. > :14:30.of the UK's exit from the ET and continue to build a brighter,
:14:31. > :14:33.more secure future Several Government ministers have
:14:34. > :14:39.repeatedly stated that our land frontier with the European Tnion
:14:40. > :14:45.will not be a hard border. What discussions have the Government
:14:46. > :14:47.had with the Government of the Republic of Ireland hn terms
:14:48. > :14:51.of the exact nature of this, It is clearly a priority and I can
:14:52. > :14:57.assure him that discussions But let me be clear again
:14:58. > :15:03.that there is and always has been a strong will to preserve the common
:15:04. > :15:06.travel area and ensure That is what the Government
:15:07. > :15:11.is working towards. This is the first time in hhstory
:15:12. > :15:14.that the Northern Ireland and the Republic will be
:15:15. > :15:16.on the opposite sides Although the common travel `rea
:15:17. > :15:24.has been in existence since the early 1920s,
:15:25. > :15:27.there were tough security controls and border checks
:15:28. > :15:31.during the Troubles. And isn't it unthinkable in an era
:15:32. > :15:36.of mass refugee migration and jihadi terrorism that the only land border
:15:37. > :15:41.between the UK and the EU Well, it is a point well made
:15:42. > :15:50.by the noble Lord, who has luch But again, I reassure him
:15:51. > :15:55.that this is at the top On the one hand, we don't
:15:56. > :15:59.want to have a soft border. We do want to have a soft border,
:16:00. > :16:03.not a hard border, but at the same time, all the parties are vdry aware
:16:04. > :16:06.of the security issues Will the Minister confirm
:16:07. > :16:12.that the Belfast Agreement hs not just an internal agreement
:16:13. > :16:16.between the parties in Northern Ireland,
:16:17. > :16:19.but is an international tre`ty between two sovereign states
:16:20. > :16:22.of the United Kingdom Would he tell us, as such, hs it
:16:23. > :16:29.lodged with the European Unhon and, if so, what of locations
:16:30. > :16:32.will the withdrawal of one of the parties
:16:33. > :16:35.from the European Union havd for the status of that
:16:36. > :16:39.international treaty? It is true, what the noble
:16:40. > :16:42.lord says, which is it It is a power-sharing
:16:43. > :16:48.for Northern Ireland and it is quite But there is no reason to stggest
:16:49. > :16:54.the outcome of the referendtm means The UK Government, Irish Government
:16:55. > :17:00.and Northern Ireland political parties are fully committed
:17:01. > :17:02.to upholding the agreement Is my noble friend aware
:17:03. > :17:10.that the Republic of Ireland has shown some interest recentlx
:17:11. > :17:15.in associate membership And would Her Majesty's Govdrnment
:17:16. > :17:22.consider that thought as possibly being useful in resolving some
:17:23. > :17:25.of the border problems which have And if that is the thought,
:17:26. > :17:30.would the Government considdr pressing the Commonwealth
:17:31. > :17:33.authorities to develop the relationship with the Rdpublic
:17:34. > :17:36.of Ireland which is already That is a helpful comment
:17:37. > :17:43.from my noble friend and I know that the new Secretary of State
:17:44. > :17:45.for Northern Ireland, if I might put it this way,
:17:46. > :17:48.has hit the ground running. And he has been meeting a v`riety
:17:49. > :17:52.of parties in ensuring And I will certainly pass
:17:53. > :17:58.that message on. Since there are now more
:17:59. > :18:01.people from Poland living in Northern Ireland than people
:18:02. > :18:04.from the Republic of Ireland, will both those who have Irhsh
:18:05. > :18:08.passports and Polish passports be guaranteed their future in
:18:09. > :18:13.Northern Ireland following Brexit? Well, I can only repeat
:18:14. > :18:20.what I said previously, which is that the Belfast Agreement
:18:21. > :18:24.remains intact and we do not You're watching our round-up of the
:18:25. > :18:31.day in the Commons and the Lords. MPs and peers may be vacating
:18:32. > :18:35.the Houses of Parliament while the builders go
:18:36. > :18:39.in to renovate the palace. Now, scammers don't
:18:40. > :18:46.just steal money. They can rob people
:18:47. > :18:48.of their self-confidence They were debating the harm done
:18:49. > :18:53.by fraudsters, typically to elderly Many scams nowadays take pl`ce
:18:54. > :18:59.online with scammers sending emails claiming to be from banks
:19:00. > :19:04.asking for security codes. But traditional scams
:19:05. > :19:06.are still flourishing. One pensioner was even perstaded
:19:07. > :19:12.to sign over his home to fr`udsters. As a former consumer rights
:19:13. > :19:14.and personal finance journalist I have seen first-hand the real harm
:19:15. > :19:19.that these fraudsters can do. They not only leave people poorer,
:19:20. > :19:23.Madam Deputy Speaker, but can also cause a huge r`nge
:19:24. > :19:28.of health and confidence problems For example, in 2003 whilst
:19:29. > :19:34.working for the BBC, I covered a story of a Southampton
:19:35. > :19:39.pensioner who fell victim to scam artists pretending to represent
:19:40. > :19:41.something called the They convinced him to wire ?1,6 0
:19:42. > :19:49.administration fee to Canad` to unlock the money,
:19:50. > :19:53.which, of course, Instead, there were only escalating
:19:54. > :19:58.demands for more cash. Indeed, in the end, this individual
:19:59. > :20:03.paid out more than ?9,000 The typical victim of a scal is 74
:20:04. > :20:20.years old and living alone. National Trading Standards scams
:20:21. > :20:24.team has found an astonishing 106,000 potential victims of fraud
:20:25. > :20:30.on captured criminal target lists and in the language of thesd
:20:31. > :20:32.individuals, they call He told MPs about a case
:20:33. > :20:45.featuring fake tradesmen. A 78-year-old pensioner
:20:46. > :20:47.from Lincolnshire, who lived alone and was isolated from familx,
:20:48. > :20:49.the pensioner was conned out of his house by a conman
:20:50. > :20:52.who convinced him major rep`ir work After being cold called and visited,
:20:53. > :20:57.he agreed to will part of his property in return
:20:58. > :21:01.for the work being carried out. The MP who co-sponsored
:21:02. > :21:04.the debate said everyone What makes us all vulnerabld
:21:05. > :21:09.to scams is shown by research All of us are over-confident
:21:10. > :21:15.about our ability to spot a scam and that makes us,
:21:16. > :21:21.ironically, all the more vulnerable. The gap between confidence
:21:22. > :21:26.and ability is dangerous. So what can we do about this
:21:27. > :21:29.problem? I absolutely agree with
:21:30. > :21:32.the suggestion put forward by Trading Standards that fhnancial
:21:33. > :21:35.institutions should recognise that consumers,
:21:36. > :21:40.clients with dimentia are, by definition, more at risk
:21:41. > :21:44.of being scammed and measurds need to be taken to protect this group
:21:45. > :21:49.as a duty of care. In order to tackle the issud of scam
:21:50. > :21:52.and the Government seriouslx needs to review police funding,
:21:53. > :21:54.police resources are alreadx suffering as a result of police
:21:55. > :22:00.budgets decreasing year on xear Should it be allowed to continue,
:22:01. > :22:05.we will see more scams being carried Co-operation between trading
:22:06. > :22:10.standards and the police is vital but can only happen if best services
:22:11. > :22:14.are given the funding for rdsrouces We have a moral responsibilhty
:22:15. > :22:21.to protect the elderly We have to ensure that the resources
:22:22. > :22:27.to do this are made available to the professionals
:22:28. > :22:29.who have the skills to best I can assure honourable members
:22:30. > :22:35.that the Government regards tackling scamming as a priority
:22:36. > :22:39.and we will continue to work with national and local partners
:22:40. > :22:43.to address the issues raised today and to do everything we can
:22:44. > :22:46.to prevent the horrendous consequences of the scams
:22:47. > :22:51.we have heard about today. A motion calling on the Govdrnment
:22:52. > :22:54.to produce further measures 'An impending crisis
:22:55. > :23:01.that cannot be ignored.' That's the verdict of a new report
:23:02. > :23:04.on the structural condition The report says the Palace
:23:05. > :23:08.of Westminster faces the 'substantial and growing risk'
:23:09. > :23:11.of a catastrophic event, such as a major fire
:23:12. > :23:15.or a series of failures It recommends both MPs and peers
:23:16. > :23:20.moving out of the Palace for six years to allow urgent rdpair
:23:21. > :23:26.and renovation work to take place. Naturally enough, the work won't be
:23:27. > :23:29.cheap, as the SNP spokesman noted Mr Speaker, this morning
:23:30. > :23:34.it was announced that billions of pounds will be spent
:23:35. > :23:38.on refurbishing this House. I'm sure the Leader of the House
:23:39. > :23:41.meant to announce when we'rd going to have the full statdment
:23:42. > :23:43.on this and when we're going to have a proper
:23:44. > :23:45.debate in Government time about these proposals,
:23:46. > :23:47.particularly when they learn that this could cost up ?4.3 billion
:23:48. > :23:52.of public money and I'm surd all our constituents
:23:53. > :23:55.would want to know exactly hf that's The Leader of the Commons s`id
:23:56. > :24:01.the report had been drawn up The government has not had `ny input
:24:02. > :24:11.into that nor any prior cophes of the report sent to us
:24:12. > :24:17.so that we could suddenly m`ke comments before the committde
:24:18. > :24:23.made its announcement today. Parliament will indeed
:24:24. > :24:27.have an opportunity to debate this Decisions will be a matter for this
:24:28. > :24:33.House and for the House of Lords Finally - and not a lot
:24:34. > :24:41.of people know this - the Speaker, John Bercow,
:24:42. > :24:44.is a very adept impressionist. Question time in the chamber
:24:45. > :24:46.gave him the chance to do one of his favourite impersonathons
:24:47. > :24:48.that of the veteran Labour politician,
:24:49. > :25:03.the late Tony Benn. When it comes to our commitlent to
:25:04. > :25:06.delivering an Brexit there hs no doubt we will be delivering
:25:07. > :25:10.hesitating to ensure it happens and as soon as we can achieve it on
:25:11. > :25:17.behalf of country making all the necessary preparations. You all
:25:18. > :25:19.remember Tony Benn, it's not about personality, it's about the issues.
:25:20. > :25:25.But do join me for the Week in Parliament, when we not only look
:25:26. > :25:28.back at the last four days in the Commons and the Lords,
:25:29. > :25:31.but also discuss whether thd work of a politician should be job-shared
:25:32. > :25:33.following the decision of the Greens to have two
:25:34. > :25:35.people leading their party on a job-share basis.
:25:36. > :25:46.Until then, from me, Keith Macdougall, goodbye.