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:00:16. > :00:17.Hello and welcome to Thursday in Parliament.

:00:18. > :00:22.Was a British terror suspect paid compensation after being held

:00:23. > :00:27.And was the money used to fund terrorism?

:00:28. > :00:31.People across the country will feel sickened at the idea of large

:00:32. > :00:34.payments being made to someone who may have been involved

:00:35. > :00:40.There are calls for an end to so-called witch-hunts

:00:41. > :00:43.against soldiers who served in Northern Ireland.

:00:44. > :00:46.It is wrong that our veterans are sitting at home,

:00:47. > :00:50.wondering if, perhaps, a third or fourth investigation

:00:51. > :00:54.is now going to take place into their case.

:00:55. > :00:57.And calls for an investigation into claims that some peers turn up

:00:58. > :01:00.briefly to the House of Lords - just to claim their

:01:01. > :01:06.Surely, does the Leader of the House not agree,

:01:07. > :01:09.this at least warrants some sort of investigation as to what's going

:01:10. > :01:14.But first, Jamal al-Harith - a British citizen -

:01:15. > :01:18.was held as a terror suspect in Guantanano Bay in 2001

:01:19. > :01:22.after the US forces seized him in Pakistan.

:01:23. > :01:27.The Daily Mail has claimed that the British Government gave him

:01:28. > :01:36.Jamal al-Harith subsequently joined the so-called Islamic State group,

:01:37. > :01:38.and last week he carried out a suicide attack at

:01:39. > :01:43.The Home Office was called to the Commons to make

:01:44. > :01:47.But, at the outset, a Minister explained that there were a few

:01:48. > :01:52.The monitoring of individuals is an intelligent matter,

:01:53. > :01:56.and the Government does not and cannot comment

:01:57. > :01:59.Neither can the Government comment on whether particular individuals

:02:00. > :02:06.In November 2010, the then Lord Chancellor, Secretary

:02:07. > :02:09.of State for Justice, my right honourable friend

:02:10. > :02:11.the member for Rushcliffe, informed the House of Commons

:02:12. > :02:14.the Government had secured and mediated settlement

:02:15. > :02:17.of the civil damages, claims brought by a detainees

:02:18. > :02:23.held at Guantanamo Bay in the early 2000s.

:02:24. > :02:26.The details of that settlement were subject to a legally binding

:02:27. > :02:28.confidentiality agreement, and we are therefore unable

:02:29. > :02:31.to confirm whether any specific individual received

:02:32. > :02:36.It is reported that Jamal al-Harith has died in a suicide attack

:02:37. > :02:39.in Mosul, and in doing so has killed several others on behalf

:02:40. > :02:45.If these reports are correct, he was a deeply dangerous man

:02:46. > :02:48.involved in the worst kind of extremism and terrorism,

:02:49. > :02:50.that I'm sure will be widely condemned on all sides of this

:02:51. > :02:56.Everyone understands there will be information that cannot be revealed

:02:57. > :03:03.However, he has provided far too little information

:03:04. > :03:10.Can he confirm whether Mr al-Harith was made any payment, and also,

:03:11. > :03:12.notwithstanding the subsequent, welcome legislation -

:03:13. > :03:20.which had cross-party support to tighten the law -

:03:21. > :03:22.would he agree that people across the country will feel

:03:23. > :03:25.sickened at the idea of large payments being made to someone

:03:26. > :03:27.who may have been involved in serious terrorist activity?

:03:28. > :03:29.We know that Mr al-Harith was subject to monitoring

:03:30. > :03:33.after 2004, was he subject to monitoring between 2010,

:03:34. > :03:37.when the compensation payments are reported to have been made,

:03:38. > :03:40.and reportedly leaving the country in 2014?

:03:41. > :03:44.I thank the right honourable lady for her questions.

:03:45. > :03:47.Can I also say, like her, and like my constituents,

:03:48. > :03:49.we will all be outraged and disappointed by the sums

:03:50. > :03:58.But the sums of money that had been paid and been

:03:59. > :04:00.reported to have been paid, I can't comment on

:04:01. > :04:06.And unlike former Home Secretaries, the Government is bound by its legal

:04:07. > :04:08.obligations that it has made, and we cannot break

:04:09. > :04:12.But I can say that some of the vulnerability that led us

:04:13. > :04:15.to have to pay those damages occurred when she was a member

:04:16. > :04:19.of the Labour Government, and when those individuals brought

:04:20. > :04:26.There will be natural public concern about the case of Jamal al-Harith

:04:27. > :04:35.he was allegedly paid ?1 million in compensation by the UK

:04:36. > :04:39.Government following his incarceration in Guantanamo.

:04:40. > :04:42.And there will be natural public concern that the Minister has chosen

:04:43. > :04:44.to hide behind the notion of sensitive intelligence to fail

:04:45. > :04:50.to answer even the simplest factual questions about this case.

:04:51. > :04:58.We don't need to know exactly how much, but was there any payment?

:04:59. > :05:01.Is there any truth in the idea that the settlement was designed

:05:02. > :05:05.to stop al-Harith making embarrassing revelations

:05:06. > :05:10.about our acquiescence in enabling of the torture of a UK citizen?

:05:11. > :05:14.It is reported that around ?20 million was being paid to former

:05:15. > :05:19.Guantanamo Bay detainees, 16 in number.

:05:20. > :05:23.This morning, Lord Blunkett suggested that sum should

:05:24. > :05:27.be formally reviewed, since the public will be dismayed,

:05:28. > :05:29.and they will be particularly concerned if any of that money has

:05:30. > :05:34.Will he undertake to review the ?20 million or thereabouts

:05:35. > :05:37.that is reported to have been paid out to these individuals?

:05:38. > :05:43.My right honourable friend raises an important point

:05:44. > :05:46.about the destination or what happens to any money

:05:47. > :05:51.One of the reasons we took through the House only on Tuesday

:05:52. > :05:53.the Criminal Finances Bill, which covers terrorist financing,

:05:54. > :05:57.is to give us even more powers to track money destined

:05:58. > :06:02.The root cause of the problem here is the operation

:06:03. > :06:08.The Government previously supported President Obama's aspiration to see

:06:09. > :06:11.it closed and the reduction in numbers there.

:06:12. > :06:13.The current president, when he was campaigning,

:06:14. > :06:16.said he was going to load it up with some "bad dudes".

:06:17. > :06:19.Does the Government now support President Obama's position

:06:20. > :06:25.I think before the Government comments on United States action,

:06:26. > :06:27.we should see what the actions are in themselves.

:06:28. > :06:30.I can tell you from my own personal experience, as a young officer

:06:31. > :06:33.in Northern Ireland doing counterterrorism, is torture,

:06:34. > :06:36.degrading people doesn't work, it doesn't get

:06:37. > :06:40.In fact, it usually extends conflict.

:06:41. > :06:43.Can I diassociate myself from these disgraceful attacks from the Tory

:06:44. > :06:46.benches on the Daily Mail for campaigning to release British

:06:47. > :06:52.Lord Carlile was a Government adviser, he has stated that Jamal

:06:53. > :06:55.al-Harith and others were paid compensation to prevent

:06:56. > :07:02.the release of security information through the courts

:07:03. > :07:06.It's bit late now for the Minister now to rest on confidentiality,

:07:07. > :07:09.so perhaps he could tell us this - what was the date of

:07:10. > :07:11.the confidentiality clause which the Minister was citing?

:07:12. > :07:21.First of all, perhaps I could respond to the right

:07:22. > :07:24.honourable gentleman's point about the attacks on the Daily Mail.

:07:25. > :07:26.I don't think anyone's heard from this dispatch box

:07:27. > :07:32.I know he'd like to put up a strawman to make some allegations.

:07:33. > :07:36.As I said in my answer, November 2010, we made a legally

:07:37. > :07:43.The key word in there for him is legally binding.

:07:44. > :07:46.It's not confidentially, it's the legally binding bit.

:07:47. > :07:49.Which I'm sure he'll understand puts an obligation on us,

:07:50. > :07:53.it's not an obligation on former Home Secretaries, by

:07:54. > :07:55.the sounds of things, or reviewers of terrorism,

:07:56. > :08:01.And should it even be an SNP Government, they would be

:08:02. > :08:03.legally obliged to stick to the confidentially

:08:04. > :08:07.The Government has come under pressure to take urgent action over

:08:08. > :08:09.investigations into allegations against British veterans who served

:08:10. > :08:14.Some Conservatives and Democratic Unionist MPs have said that,

:08:15. > :08:20.in future, inquiries should only proceed if NEW evidence

:08:21. > :08:24.The demands follow the decision by the Defence Secretary,

:08:25. > :08:27.Sir Michael Fallon, to shut down the Iraq Historic Allegations Team.

:08:28. > :08:29.We believe that the Government must give urgent consideration

:08:30. > :08:32.to introducing a statute of limitations for soldiers

:08:33. > :08:36.and police officers who face the prospect of prosecution in cases

:08:37. > :08:41.which, and this is very important, in cases which have

:08:42. > :08:48.previously been the subject of full police investigations.

:08:49. > :08:52.It is wrong that our veterans are sitting at home wondering

:08:53. > :08:57.if perhaps a third or a fourth investigation is now going to take

:08:58. > :09:02.place into their case simply because some hot,

:09:03. > :09:07.fast-thinking, make a quick buck human rights lawyer in Belfast

:09:08. > :09:10.thinks it's a good idea to reopen this case.

:09:11. > :09:21.To re-open cases now, Madam Speaker, what it does,

:09:22. > :09:23.it actually is revisionism, it's trying to rewrite history.

:09:24. > :09:25.We're trying to look at what happened then

:09:26. > :09:29.through the lens of 2017, were we have a whole

:09:30. > :09:31.new emphasis on human rights and different standards.

:09:32. > :09:37.I find this perverse, long and completely unacceptable.

:09:38. > :09:43.I am increasingly worried because 38 years ago I gave my word the two men

:09:44. > :09:49.under my command after they had been involved in a fatality shooting

:09:50. > :09:52.that, if they went to court, and were charged with manslaughter

:09:53. > :09:55.and they were proved not guilty, they would never

:09:56. > :10:04.I gave my word and it looks like my word may not be worth

:10:05. > :10:14.I'm grateful to my honourable and gallant friend.

:10:15. > :10:18.I think we all, a lot of us share on this side of the House,

:10:19. > :10:21.the view that fresh evidence, a transparent procedure for showing

:10:22. > :10:25.that fresh evidence has emerged, should be the requirement for any

:10:26. > :10:30.There cannot be a progress to the future without a complete

:10:31. > :10:32.settlement of the issues of the past.

:10:33. > :10:35.There has to be the closure, there has to be the investigation,

:10:36. > :10:38.there has to be the disinfectant of sunlight, to quote the phrase.

:10:39. > :10:43.We have to move on, sure and certain in the knowledge that we have done

:10:44. > :10:49.We will never accept any kind of moral equivalence between those

:10:50. > :10:53.who sought to uphold the rule of law and terrorists who

:10:54. > :10:59.For us, politically motivated violence in Northern Ireland

:11:00. > :11:09.Whether it was carried out by Republicans or loyalists.

:11:10. > :11:11.The Northern Ireland Secretary called on all parties -

:11:12. > :11:14.following next week's elections to the Northern Ireland Assembly -

:11:15. > :11:16.to get behind the 2014 Stormont House Agreement

:11:17. > :11:20.and the plans to set up a Historical Investigations Unit.

:11:21. > :11:24.Any legislation establishing the HRU would include specific tests

:11:25. > :11:29.which must be met in order that a previously completed case

:11:30. > :11:36.This will mean specifically that new and credible evidence

:11:37. > :11:41.that was not previously available to the authorities is needed before

:11:42. > :11:50.I would hope that, on the far side of this election,

:11:51. > :11:54.that there is that opportunity for the restoration of the political

:11:55. > :11:58.institutions and that there's parallel negotiations to deal

:11:59. > :12:03.with these issues that are outstanding, that

:12:04. > :12:08.It's absolutely important that the institutions

:12:09. > :12:11.which were being set up under the Stormont House Agreement,

:12:12. > :12:13.which the Secretary of State referred to and which my right

:12:14. > :12:15.honourable friend referred to, the Historical Investigation Unit

:12:16. > :12:18.and so on, are set up so we can have a balanced, fair

:12:19. > :12:21.and proportionate approach to all of this.

:12:22. > :12:24.On Monday, the Prime Minister Theresa May turned up in the House

:12:25. > :12:27.of Lords to watch the start of the debate on the Bill

:12:28. > :12:32.authorising the Government to trigger the start of the Uk's

:12:33. > :12:35.It's extremely rare for a Prime Minister to observe

:12:36. > :12:41.A Labour MP, Valerie Vaz, was suspicious about

:12:42. > :12:45.This is a photo opportunity for Prime Minister and Government.

:12:46. > :12:49.All photos, no substance or any thought for the British people.

:12:50. > :12:52.Not content with being the first to visit the United States,

:12:53. > :12:55.when the Prime Minister should have been networking in Europe,

:12:56. > :12:58.the Prime Minister then photobombs the House of Lords in the company

:12:59. > :13:02.No wonder we can't get a date for recess.

:13:03. > :13:06.Instead of photobombing, the Prime Minister needs to focus

:13:07. > :13:08.on what is going on in her own Cabinet.

:13:09. > :13:11.She may have come off the sofa and into the Cabinet table,

:13:12. > :13:23.I was disappointed in what they said about the House of Lords.

:13:24. > :13:25.I actually think it's important, it's important that ministers

:13:26. > :13:27.respect the constitutional role of the House of Lords.

:13:28. > :13:30.In my experience, both in Government and in Opposition,

:13:31. > :13:38.members like the fact that ministers and indeed occasionally Opposition

:13:39. > :13:43.spokesmen go and listen to what they have to say

:13:44. > :13:46.and that is exactly what my right honourable friend the Prime Minister

:13:47. > :13:55.and I were doing earlier in the week.

:13:56. > :13:58.I suppose the Leader of the House can safely put away that Abolition

:13:59. > :14:01.of the Lords Bill then, and all we really needed

:14:02. > :14:03.was a selfie with himself and the Prime Minister

:14:04. > :14:05.when he visited the Chamber last week.

:14:06. > :14:07.After threatening to lead this great Brexit rebellion,

:14:08. > :14:09.these brave tribunes have led the nation all the way

:14:10. > :14:12.to the top of the hill and all the way back down again,

:14:13. > :14:14.while obviously leaving the taxi motor running.

:14:15. > :14:21.Am I the only member of the House that is slightly disturbed by these

:14:22. > :14:24.allegations from the former Lord Speaker?

:14:25. > :14:27.This is taxpayers' money, surely does the Leader of the House

:14:28. > :14:31.not agree that this at least warrants some sort of investigation

:14:32. > :14:34.about what is going on down there with their expenses?

:14:35. > :14:36.He was referring to claims made in a BBC programme

:14:37. > :14:40.on the House of Lords, due to be aired next Tuesday.

:14:41. > :14:43.The former Leader of the Lords says some peers turn up briefly,

:14:44. > :14:47.While I don't know any detail beyond the reports of this

:14:48. > :14:52.television programme, it is clearly a right to that

:14:53. > :14:55.evidence about specific allegations needs to be investigated

:14:56. > :14:58.by the appropriate authorities in that House, just as should be

:14:59. > :15:05.There also has to be due process and one has to proceed on the basis

:15:06. > :15:10.You're watching Thursday in Parliament, with me,

:15:11. > :15:19.New figures show net migration has fallen to its lowest

:15:20. > :15:21.level for two years - but it's still above

:15:22. > :15:28.It dropped to 273,000 in the year to September, down 49,000

:15:29. > :15:35.The Home Secretary said the numbers showed that "we can reduce migration

:15:36. > :15:41.Just as those figures were being released,

:15:42. > :15:45.the Lord's Economic Affairs Committee was holding

:15:46. > :15:48.its latest hearing into Brexit and the Labour market.

:15:49. > :15:51.I would suggest an objective of this kind - a level of net migration that

:15:52. > :15:54.avoids undue pressure on our population, public services

:15:55. > :16:06.Finally, as for an appropriate level, that of course

:16:07. > :16:25.I would say that even 100,000 a year would add

:16:26. > :16:27.to our population over next 25 years, so if you're

:16:28. > :16:29.concern is of population, crowding and everything that follows

:16:30. > :16:33.that, then you should be having in mind something of that order over

:16:34. > :16:38.The net migration target is nonsense.

:16:39. > :16:46.It's absurd, because there's no right level of net migration.

:16:47. > :16:50.It's absurd because the Government doesn't have the means to achieve

:16:51. > :16:55.any arbitrary target that it sets, both because it can scarcely control

:16:56. > :17:01.immigration or EU migration, and because it only has limited

:17:02. > :17:05.And last but not least, and crucially, because in

:17:06. > :17:08.prioritising an absurd and arbitrary target, it takes stupid and costly

:17:09. > :17:13.decisions without thinking through the consequences.

:17:14. > :17:18.So it's madness at a time when every country in the world is trying

:17:19. > :17:21.to increase its share of the booming global export market to be clamping

:17:22. > :17:31.What you are advocating for is a complete free-for-all that

:17:32. > :17:36.anyone who's got a job should be able to get a visa to come

:17:37. > :17:40.here and you say, in response to the point that's been made

:17:41. > :17:44.by Lord Green about the public backlash that might result,

:17:45. > :17:47.is that this could be dealt with by making welfare

:17:48. > :17:56.The problem we have is people can't get GP appointments,

:17:57. > :18:01.the National Health Service is enormous pressure,

:18:02. > :18:04.there is huge opposition to building on the green belt.

:18:05. > :18:06.Isn't this an idealistic economic model which is

:18:07. > :18:15.The self-selected migrants that are able to come to Britain freely

:18:16. > :18:17.tend to be particularly highly educated, are more

:18:18. > :18:19.likely to be employed and are particularly large net

:18:20. > :18:22.In effect, they're actually subsidising the public services

:18:23. > :18:26.If there were no migrants here, there'd be even less money,

:18:27. > :18:29.net, for public services for British people.

:18:30. > :18:33.Not to mention, doctors, far fewer doctors and nurses to care for them.

:18:34. > :18:37.A Liberal Democrat asked about sectors such as agriculture,

:18:38. > :18:45.that relied on large amounts of low skilled migrant workers.

:18:46. > :18:47.You're saying we should aim to be ultimately

:18:48. > :18:55.Well, I mean, we have 1.5 million people who are unemployed

:18:56. > :18:58.and we have over 1 million part-time workers who are looking

:18:59. > :19:01.for full-time work, so it's not as if the barrel is empty.

:19:02. > :19:04.Robinson Crusoe scraped by on his island.

:19:05. > :19:14.But the idea that it is desirable is insane.

:19:15. > :19:21.Just as if we try to become self-sufficient in goods

:19:22. > :19:24.and services, we would adjust, we would be poorer

:19:25. > :19:26.Mechanization clearly is one thing that would happen.

:19:27. > :19:28.Some things we would just do without.

:19:29. > :19:31.So the Scottish strawberries that Lord Forsyth loves would go unpicked

:19:32. > :19:33.and so perhaps would the English strawberries, and we would import

:19:34. > :19:37.Whether British people would be better off as a result

:19:38. > :19:55.With some 100,000 people facing starvation, and a million more

:19:56. > :19:59.on the brink of famine in South Sudan, an independent peer,

:20:00. > :20:01.Lord Alton, secured an urgent question in the House of Lords.

:20:02. > :20:04.He wanted to know what was being done to tackle the causes

:20:05. > :20:14.Does the noble lord agree that the three-year civil war

:20:15. > :20:17.in South Sudan and the continuing conflict just north in the Republic

:20:18. > :20:23.of Sudan have generated vast numbers of refugees and a consequential

:20:24. > :20:25.inability to grow and harvest crops, and that should remain our priority

:20:26. > :20:35.Can the noble lord tell us what progress is being made

:20:36. > :20:38.in achieving this, in obtaining access to closed areas in the unity

:20:39. > :20:39.state and then galvanizing international effort

:20:40. > :20:42.to save the lives of millions now at risk of starvation,

:20:43. > :20:49.He's right in highlighting that many crises

:20:50. > :20:52.that we face are not man-made, but this one is most

:20:53. > :21:06.I have just left a emergency planning meeting on the situation in

:21:07. > :21:13.Somalia. That is where some 6 million people

:21:14. > :21:16.are at risk because of famine and there we are doing

:21:17. > :21:18.the best we actually can. Here, the frustrating thing is,

:21:19. > :21:21.although we donate ?100 million, although the UN mission

:21:22. > :21:23.to South Sudan is in place on the ground and many humanitarian

:21:24. > :21:26.workers are risking their lives to deliver aid, unless there

:21:27. > :21:28.is that peace agreement, the implementation of the existing

:21:29. > :21:31.peace agreement, then the futures of people in South Sudan,

:21:32. > :21:33.particularly women and children, What are we doing in terms

:21:34. > :21:36.of building sustainable peace It comes back to our point before,

:21:37. > :21:40.development is not just about humanitarian aid,

:21:41. > :21:41.it is about building peace and sustainability,

:21:42. > :21:47.particularly in Africa. The Lord is absolutely right

:21:48. > :21:49.and I appreciate his remarks. On the specifics that he mentions,

:21:50. > :21:55.we have been supporting and coaching and encouraging the work

:21:56. > :22:00.of the intergovernmental African development body,

:22:01. > :22:03.who have been reading a lot of this work and also through the UN

:22:04. > :22:06.Security Council on that. We've been working with

:22:07. > :22:09.international partners, we're part of an agreement

:22:10. > :22:12.with Norway and the United States A huge amount had been done,

:22:13. > :22:20.he said, but the UK Now, what will airports be

:22:21. > :22:24.like in the post-Brexit world - when the UK takes

:22:25. > :22:28.control of its borders? Will there be long queues of people

:22:29. > :22:32.from EU countries waiting to get Perhaps there'll be

:22:33. > :22:34.a new dedicated fast lane Does taking back control

:22:35. > :22:40.of our borders mean the 23 million inbound passengers from the EU

:22:41. > :22:43.who pass through our airports each year will be subject

:22:44. > :22:45.to full border checks? Is he aware of research

:22:46. > :22:47.by the tourism industry Council which shows it would require UK

:22:48. > :22:50.border resources to be Can he assure us that those costs

:22:51. > :22:57.will be met from the 350 million Well, Mr Speaker, it is already

:22:58. > :23:02.the case that when an EU citizen arrives in this country,

:23:03. > :23:04.they have to show their passport and I don't envisage

:23:05. > :23:09.that changing in future. Passengers arriving at UK airports

:23:10. > :23:12.would expect the queue for no longer than 25 minutes coming

:23:13. > :23:14.from the European Economic Area, 45 minutes coming from outside that

:23:15. > :23:16.area due to service-level agreements Does the Secretary of State believe

:23:17. > :23:20.these service-level agreements Mr Speaker, as the Prime

:23:21. > :23:26.Minister said recently, and I would reiterate,

:23:27. > :23:31.our desire post Brexit is not to have long queues on our borders,

:23:32. > :23:34.it's actually to have sensible arrangements to allow people

:23:35. > :23:36.to travel to do business but also to enable us to have the controls

:23:37. > :23:40.on migration to the United Kingdom that I think people

:23:41. > :23:42.voted for last year. Does my right honourable

:23:43. > :23:47.friend agree that, once the UK leaves the EU,

:23:48. > :23:50.we will be free to open dedicated entry lanes to our airports for use

:23:51. > :23:53.only by UK citizens and those of our overseas territories,

:23:54. > :23:56.thereby speeding up entry to the UK? Well, of course, Mr Speaker,

:23:57. > :23:59.as my honourable friend knows, post Brexit, it will be a matter

:24:00. > :24:02.for this House and this Government to decide how best

:24:03. > :24:04.to manage our borders, but I'm sure my honourable friend

:24:05. > :24:06.would wish to ensure that, where appropriate,

:24:07. > :24:08.we have the smoothest possible passes through our border for people

:24:09. > :24:12.who we would wish to welcome At the Culture, Media

:24:13. > :24:22.and Sport Select Committee this week, several witnesses expressed

:24:23. > :24:30.concern about the timeliness that would be required for physical

:24:31. > :24:31.reconfiguration of airports. Is the Secretary of State having

:24:32. > :24:34.conversations with the airport Well, I had a meeting in fact

:24:35. > :24:37.with airlines and airports earlier this week and will continue

:24:38. > :24:40.to do so. We will continue to consult

:24:41. > :24:42.carefully with the industry. But as I say, of course,

:24:43. > :24:44.people arriving from all around the world today have

:24:45. > :24:46.to show their passports already when they arrive

:24:47. > :24:48.in the United Kingdom, so I don't envisage the kind

:24:49. > :24:51.of dramatic change that perhaps What insurances and evidence can

:24:52. > :25:00.he provide as inter-departmental work ongoing to ensure

:25:01. > :25:02.that there will be as little disruption as possible

:25:03. > :25:04.and ensure our tourism market, which is vital for jobs

:25:05. > :25:06.and the economy, will not I'm going to simply say

:25:07. > :25:09.to the honourable Lady, she is making an assumption

:25:10. > :25:12.I simply don't accept. It is the case already,

:25:13. > :25:15.Mr Speaker that people are arriving into our borders have

:25:16. > :25:18.to show their passports before We certainly don't envisage

:25:19. > :25:26.a situation where we said we create vast additional queues

:25:27. > :25:28.on our border. We want a smooth, streamlined

:25:29. > :25:30.process for people who have the right to come here to do

:25:31. > :25:33.so and to be welcome here. Chris Grayling, reassuring

:25:34. > :25:35.everyone that there'll be no Well, time for me to fly but do

:25:36. > :25:40.join me on Friday night at 11 for a roundup of a week

:25:41. > :25:45.in which the House of Lords Until then from me,

:25:46. > :25:47.Kristiina Cooper, goodbye.