0:00:17 > 0:00:20Hello and welcome to the programme.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22Coming up:
0:00:22 > 0:00:25Conservative MPs demand ministers stand up to the EU on the vexed
0:00:25 > 0:00:31question of fishing after Brexit.
0:00:31 > 0:00:35The Armada of trawlers who have been hit plundering Britain cosmic
0:00:35 > 0:00:40historic oozing ground are not going to be happy that their best years
0:00:40 > 0:00:48are behind them. -- Britain's historic fishing grounds.
0:00:48 > 0:00:51The doors to flats in Grenfell Tower are found to have
0:00:51 > 0:00:52failed a police fire test.
0:00:52 > 0:00:57When tested by the Metropolitan Police, the door failed after 15
0:00:57 > 0:01:02minutes.
0:01:02 > 0:01:05And a former cabinet minister questions if a fellow peer is right
0:01:05 > 0:01:07to play host to the founder of a far-right group.
0:01:07 > 0:01:11At a time when there is an increased risk of relation to hate crimes.
0:01:11 > 0:01:12Of the many questions surrounding Brexit, one
0:01:12 > 0:01:17of the main ones concerns fish.
0:01:17 > 0:01:19Conservative MPs have been pressing the government not to agree
0:01:19 > 0:01:23to the EU's demand that the bloc
0:01:23 > 0:01:25should still have the right to fish in UK waters after Brexit,
0:01:25 > 0:01:28in return for tariff-free access to the European market
0:01:28 > 0:01:29for British goods and services.
0:01:29 > 0:01:33In its latest version of the Brexit agreement,
0:01:33 > 0:01:35released on Thursday, the EU has added in "opportunities"
0:01:35 > 0:01:37for the UK to "comment" on fishing quotas.
0:01:37 > 0:01:40One Conservative believed people would unite against the idea
0:01:40 > 0:01:42of continued access to UK waters:
0:01:42 > 0:01:46Well, while fish largely
0:01:46 > 0:01:50Remainers and believers are united at the very worst aspect of our EU
0:01:50 > 0:01:53membership is the common fisheries policy and when we leave the
0:01:53 > 0:01:57European Union, we leave the common fisheries policy will stop on that
0:01:57 > 0:02:03day, the Armada of EU trawlers that have been plundering Britain's
0:02:03 > 0:02:06historic fishing grounds since 1973 are not going to be happy that their
0:02:06 > 0:02:12best years are behind them. Can we ensure that the Royal Navy has the
0:02:12 > 0:02:16resources it needs to protect our sovereign waters and ensure the
0:02:16 > 0:02:20rebirth and the renaissance of the British fishing industry.It was
0:02:20 > 0:02:23disappointing to see an aggressive line in that document about
0:02:23 > 0:02:28maintaining access to fishing waters. I want the department is
0:02:28 > 0:02:32robust on the behalf of my Northumbrian fishermen to ensure we
0:02:32 > 0:02:36regain control of our fishing waters afford the sighting who else
0:02:36 > 0:02:42condition them.It was a very odd linkage to make as well. The simple
0:02:42 > 0:02:45truth is that when we leave the European Union, we will be an
0:02:45 > 0:02:49independent coastal state. As a result, we will control our own
0:02:49 > 0:02:58waters. There will of course be continuing negotiations between
0:02:58 > 0:03:00neighbouring states because this move about cats and quotas and the
0:03:00 > 0:03:05rest of it.When we leave the European Union will my friend
0:03:05 > 0:03:12confirm that he will not give free and unfettered access as is demanded
0:03:12 > 0:03:20currently by the European Union?As the Secretary of State and I have
0:03:20 > 0:03:24but said, we will be leaving common fisheries policy and take control of
0:03:24 > 0:03:26our waters. I would just say to him that my experience of fishermen is
0:03:26 > 0:03:30that they do wish to have access to European markets and I think we need
0:03:30 > 0:03:34to approach the fisheries negotiation in the same constructive
0:03:34 > 0:03:37spirit as other parts of our negotiation but yes, we will be
0:03:37 > 0:03:43taking control of our waters.
0:03:43 > 0:03:45While fish largely ignore national borders, that's not
0:03:45 > 0:03:47always the case with MPs - especially when that border
0:03:47 > 0:03:49is the one between Northern Ireland and the Republic.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52The Government's committed to avoiding what's known as a
0:03:52 > 0:03:53"hard border" after Brexit.
0:03:53 > 0:03:56But some MPs questioned whether that's really plausible.
0:03:56 > 0:04:02Given that the Government have said that the border will remain
0:04:02 > 0:04:05frictionless and that there will be no border in the Irish Sea, the
0:04:05 > 0:04:13question many of us continue to ask is, how can this happen?Well,
0:04:13 > 0:04:17government has made clear its unwavering commitment to three
0:04:17 > 0:04:22guiding principles in relation to Northern Ireland and Republic.
0:04:22 > 0:04:25First, there should be no hard border, North and South. Belfast
0:04:25 > 0:04:30agreement must be honoured and thirdly that the Constitution and
0:04:30 > 0:04:33economic integrity of the United Kingdom remains unimpaired and the
0:04:33 > 0:04:35Prime Minister has set out most recently in her speech how that
0:04:35 > 0:04:41might be achieved. And also, building on the options set out in
0:04:41 > 0:04:44the August position papers which sets out practical options how we
0:04:44 > 0:04:48might take this forward.This is much more than just the movement of
0:04:48 > 0:04:54goods or services. It is about the cultural issue. It is about the
0:04:54 > 0:05:00movement of people. It is about all of that any symbolism of is enormous
0:05:00 > 0:05:04and the Minister needs to ensure that that is recognised time after
0:05:04 > 0:05:07time in all of the talks that she has to reassure the people of both
0:05:07 > 0:05:12parts of Ireland.I don't think that Ministers quite appreciate the level
0:05:12 > 0:05:18of concern that there is across the House on this issue. Whenever I
0:05:18 > 0:05:21visited the Irish border, I've come face-to-face with the reality of
0:05:21 > 0:05:25what the installation of any cameras or any infrastructure would mean him
0:05:25 > 0:05:33and it would not last a day, Minister. It would not last a day.
0:05:33 > 0:05:36Why won't the Secretary of State even visit the borders so that he
0:05:36 > 0:05:40can appreciate why people are so concerned?The Secretary of State
0:05:40 > 0:05:43has also been to the border prior to his appointment to this position and
0:05:43 > 0:05:49is very much apprised of the sensitivity and importance of the
0:05:49 > 0:05:58squiggle issue.Mr Speaker, I think that says all we need to hear. How?
0:05:58 > 0:06:02How, that is what we want to know, how can we ensure an open border
0:06:02 > 0:06:04without a customs union?
0:06:04 > 0:06:07The minister said there were many proposals on the table that would be
0:06:07 > 0:06:12viable and workable.
0:06:12 > 0:06:16The Government has reported a new and worrying development into the
0:06:16 > 0:06:19investigation of the fire at Grenfell Tower.
0:06:19 > 0:06:22It's nine months since the blaze claimed 71 lives.
0:06:22 > 0:06:25The cladding and insulation on the outside of the building have
0:06:25 > 0:06:28already failed all preliminary tests by the police.
0:06:28 > 0:06:31Now investigators have found that a flat door from the building
0:06:31 > 0:06:34could only hold back a fire for half the time it was supposed to.
0:06:34 > 0:06:39Initial inspections indicated the door is believed to have been
0:06:39 > 0:06:44designed to resist fire for up to 30 minutes. But when tested by the
0:06:44 > 0:06:50Metropolitan Police, failed after approximately 15 minutes. The
0:06:50 > 0:06:53Metropolitan Police considered that this test result might have wider
0:06:53 > 0:06:59implications for public safety and alerted my department.
0:06:59 > 0:07:04Sajid Javid had sought the advice of an independent expert panel.
0:07:04 > 0:07:07The expert panel has advised that the risk to the public safety remain
0:07:07 > 0:07:11low. There is no change to the fire safety advice of the public should
0:07:11 > 0:07:15follow. I, nevertheless, fully appreciate that this news will be
0:07:15 > 0:07:20troubling for many people, not least, all those affected by the
0:07:20 > 0:07:27Grenville tragedy. -- Grenfell Tower tragedy. That is why we have begun
0:07:27 > 0:07:30the process of conducting further tests and will continue to consult
0:07:30 > 0:07:33with the expert panel to identify the implications of these further
0:07:33 > 0:07:38test. I have made it clear that the necessary tests and assessments must
0:07:38 > 0:07:42he carried a thoroughly, but at pace. There is no evidence that this
0:07:42 > 0:07:46is a systemic issue.If this isn't systemic, what assessment has been
0:07:46 > 0:07:52made of how many buildings are potentially affected by this? How
0:07:52 > 0:07:58many individual flats? How many people who have fire doors that
0:07:58 > 0:08:01simply don't do the job. What steps is he taking to ascertain those
0:08:01 > 0:08:06numbers if he doesn't already know that and I suspect it is too early
0:08:06 > 0:08:10to know that, but what steps are being taken to make that kind of
0:08:10 > 0:08:13dissemination? Because that's the point at which the words that this
0:08:13 > 0:08:20is not systemic begins to ring a little incredible. It may be a
0:08:20 > 0:08:24systemic problem and we've got to begin to recognise if this is
0:08:24 > 0:08:28widescale that we have just that systemic problem.
0:08:28 > 0:08:30The minister repeated that the government
0:08:30 > 0:08:33was being led by the experts.
0:08:33 > 0:08:37And there advice so far and that is exactly why I said in my statement
0:08:37 > 0:08:40earlier that there is no evidence of a systemic problem. That is their
0:08:40 > 0:08:44advice so far and B are correctly taking advice whilst we continue
0:08:44 > 0:08:51with further tests at pace. -- we are.The expert panel's
0:08:51 > 0:08:56recommendation that no change in safety device will come as a
0:08:56 > 0:09:00surprise to many people, so will the Government insist that Dame Judith
0:09:00 > 0:09:03Hackett's review into the fire regulations assessment will make
0:09:03 > 0:09:07sure that every high-rise building's assessment will be published and
0:09:07 > 0:09:14made available in an accessible form for the public so they can perhaps
0:09:14 > 0:09:17the reassurance from that that I fear they won't have got from this
0:09:17 > 0:09:22report.As a west London near neighbour, residents in the London
0:09:22 > 0:09:33Borough of Ealing Tansey grand mal -- can see Grenfell. My constituent
0:09:33 > 0:09:35was at the silent march last night and he said that there was massive
0:09:35 > 0:09:38numbers and the sense of injustice was overwhelming. The Minister has
0:09:38 > 0:09:42repeatedly said that public safety is paramount. What is he doing to
0:09:42 > 0:09:47instill public confidence into the inquiry and the actor Matt? I don't
0:09:47 > 0:09:51take it was ever there.
0:09:51 > 0:09:53Grenfell Tower is in the constituency of Emma Dent Coad.
0:09:53 > 0:09:56She'd been speaking to an architect who'd worked on the Estate.
0:09:56 > 0:10:02In those days, the 1970s, fire doors were supposed to lasts for one hour.
0:10:02 > 0:10:04We're down to 30 minutes. Can we please consider whether or not
0:10:04 > 0:10:12buildings of that size am a half an hour is enough?She asked me about
0:10:12 > 0:10:16the fire doors and whether one hour is correct versus half-an-hour. This
0:10:16 > 0:10:19is exactly one of the reasons why I've set up the independent building
0:10:19 > 0:10:24regulation and fire safety work being done by Dame Judith Hackett. I
0:10:24 > 0:10:29know this is an issue she will be looking at.Sajid Javid.
0:10:29 > 0:10:36You're watching Thursday in Parliament with me, Mandy Baker.
0:10:36 > 0:10:38The Chair of the Commons health committee has dismissed as "dismal"
0:10:38 > 0:10:40the explanation from NHS digital about why it
0:10:41 > 0:10:46shares some patient data.
0:10:46 > 0:10:49Last year the service agreed with the home office that doctors
0:10:49 > 0:10:54could give details including addresses to immigration officials.
0:10:54 > 0:10:57But such sharing has raised fears that some migrants will be put off
0:10:57 > 0:10:58getting medical help.
0:10:58 > 0:11:01The chair of the health committee began by reminding NHS
0:11:01 > 0:11:04digital of its remit.
0:11:04 > 0:11:07You say, we are the guardians of patient data and say it is only ever
0:11:07 > 0:11:11used for the good of health and care. I'm afraid this is not the
0:11:11 > 0:11:14approach that you're taking and I just wonder, do you recognise the
0:11:14 > 0:11:18potential damage that this is doing at a time when we want the public to
0:11:18 > 0:11:24trust NHS Digital to be making ethical decisions about sharing data
0:11:24 > 0:11:30for research purposes? Is a really crucial thing that we need to get
0:11:30 > 0:11:33the public on board with so that they understand why it is in
0:11:33 > 0:11:43everyone's best interest to do that. Still, this matter has taken an
0:11:43 > 0:11:50entirely versus driven approach to a serious ethical issue. We have taken
0:11:50 > 0:11:55a law driven approach. Not an ethical driven approach.It was
0:11:55 > 0:12:04consulted on very widely with a large committee. So, a case of
0:12:04 > 0:12:08filling inboxes. We are very, very, very careful with how we handled
0:12:08 > 0:12:16clinical data. I absolutely accept you have, you know, a concern about
0:12:16 > 0:12:19where the address data is in terms of the confidentiality treatment of
0:12:19 > 0:12:25it. We have looked to the law, we have looked to case law and sought
0:12:25 > 0:12:35to follow that came fully. -- carefully.It is not there for an
0:12:35 > 0:12:37individual to not expect that information to be shared? Is that
0:12:37 > 0:12:44not reasonable?The Minister Pato position is that there's not
0:12:44 > 0:12:48reasonable expectation. From our perspective, we have given notice
0:12:48 > 0:12:52that we may share this data with the Home Office, address data for
0:12:52 > 0:12:57immigration enforcement tracing purposes, so we have sought to be
0:12:57 > 0:13:01completely transparent about the potential use of the data.Do you
0:13:01 > 0:13:05personally think that is right if that is going to reduce people's
0:13:05 > 0:13:09willingness to access health care? You personally think that is right?
0:13:09 > 0:13:12We don't have empirical evidence that says this will impact people's
0:13:12 > 0:13:24use of the system.The information procured by the Home Office resulted
0:13:24 > 0:13:30in a deportation notice was sent to AGP to pass on to a highly
0:13:30 > 0:13:35vulnerable patient. Do you think that is acceptable?We have nothing
0:13:35 > 0:13:39to do with how the Home Office handle this.But as a consequence of
0:13:39 > 0:13:43you release snye data, you have to take summer spots ability for what
0:13:43 > 0:13:47then happens with that.I know nothing about the case that you're
0:13:47 > 0:13:52talking about.I am telling you what happened and you think on that basis
0:13:52 > 0:13:57it was appropriate?I don't know enough contextually about that case,
0:13:57 > 0:14:01the way immigration enforcement work, to be able to make a comment
0:14:01 > 0:14:09on it.That's just dismal. I just think that you have been told very
0:14:09 > 0:14:16clearly that there is a risk. Why we do not apply a precautionary
0:14:16 > 0:14:20principle on this and at least suspends data sharing until they
0:14:20 > 0:14:21have completed their review?
0:14:21 > 0:14:22But Sarah Wilkinson insisted,
0:14:22 > 0:14:25they hadn't been told clearly that this data sharing had an impact
0:14:25 > 0:14:29on people seeking health care.
0:14:29 > 0:14:31And MPs were keeping up the pressure on ministers to invest
0:14:31 > 0:14:33in mental health services.
0:14:33 > 0:14:35In a debate in Westminister Hall, a former health minister,
0:14:35 > 0:14:36said better services would benefit both
0:14:36 > 0:14:42the individual and the Treasury.
0:14:42 > 0:14:47What we know from the analysis that's been done is that for every
0:14:47 > 0:14:54£1 to invest in early intervention and psychosis, to get the return of
0:14:54 > 0:14:59£15 over subsequent years. Where the complications is that the return on
0:14:59 > 0:15:05that investment is not concentrated just the NHS. It's getting people
0:15:05 > 0:15:11off benefits and into work. It's bringing in tax revenue, it's
0:15:11 > 0:15:14reducing the number of people who end up going through the criminal
0:15:14 > 0:15:19justice system. As well as reduction in the use of the NHS.
0:15:19 > 0:15:23Norman Lamb also said leaving people for months before
0:15:23 > 0:15:27they could get treatment amounted to discrimination.
0:15:27 > 0:15:33Why should someone who experiences psychosis be treated in any inferior
0:15:33 > 0:15:36way to someone who suffers from cancer or any other physical
0:15:36 > 0:15:36condition?
0:15:36 > 0:15:39Labour's Paul Williams is a GP.
0:15:39 > 0:15:41He said people who got rapid treatment had "half a chance"
0:15:41 > 0:15:45of getting their lives back on track.
0:15:45 > 0:15:48You can just imagine if there were a pathway through, it improves
0:15:48 > 0:15:56survival and recovery, we would know all about it and fight for it.In
0:15:56 > 0:16:02the past, diagnosis of psychosis would be a life sentence. But early
0:16:02 > 0:16:06intervention and treatment now can lead to a recovery, people can get
0:16:06 > 0:16:13their lives back on track. This is not the dark old days where if you
0:16:13 > 0:16:17had a mental illness, that was it. We know that people can recover and
0:16:17 > 0:16:21people should recover, but getting early treatment is absolutely
0:16:21 > 0:16:23crucial to that.
0:16:23 > 0:16:25The Health Minister agreed that improving access to treatment must
0:16:25 > 0:16:30be a "top priority" and said that ministers had a plan.
0:16:31 > 0:16:35It remains the Government's priority that we do deliver a change in how
0:16:35 > 0:16:42we provide services to people with poor mental health, and that is a
0:16:42 > 0:16:48cultural change, it will take time. We will make the investment in the
0:16:48 > 0:16:50additional static resources to deliver that change.
0:16:50 > 0:16:54The Health Minister.
0:16:54 > 0:16:56Peers have been debating how to tackle hate speech online,
0:16:56 > 0:17:01but the subject of hate speech within the Lords also came up.
0:17:01 > 0:17:03The Bishop of Gloucester
0:17:03 > 0:17:05began by considering how vulnerable, children
0:17:05 > 0:17:09were to extreme content.
0:17:09 > 0:17:13Websites have not benefits but this is fraud costs. I'm concerned about
0:17:13 > 0:17:19the hate speech that young people are exposed to online, including
0:17:19 > 0:17:25through anonymous apps. What is the Government doing to ensure that the
0:17:25 > 0:17:30age verification checks on apps are actually effective stop the
0:17:30 > 0:17:35Government is working extensively with platforms on things such as age
0:17:35 > 0:17:37verification, but also on things such as bullying and trolling
0:17:37 > 0:17:42online.Some of the things that young people are exposed to second
0:17:42 > 0:17:43blight their lives.
0:17:43 > 0:17:46But then the questioning moved closer to home.
0:17:46 > 0:17:49It concerned Tommy Robinson, the founder of the far-right group,
0:17:49 > 0:17:53the English Defence League.
0:17:53 > 0:17:58Does my noble friend agreed that all members of this House should be
0:17:58 > 0:18:03working to eradicate all forms of hate speech and I know the noble
0:18:03 > 0:18:06lord Lord Pearson is desperate to get into this question, or if he
0:18:06 > 0:18:09does get the opportunity to do so, he could explain whether he thinks
0:18:09 > 0:18:14is appropriate for members of this House to be hosting the likes of
0:18:14 > 0:18:18Tommy Robinson within the precincts of this House at a time when there
0:18:18 > 0:18:22is an increased risk in relation to hate crime, and members of the other
0:18:22 > 0:18:28house have been receiving hate letters.I couldn't agree more that
0:18:28 > 0:18:33this isn't just a governmental thing, is not a societal, but as
0:18:33 > 0:18:36legislators for this country, we have got a strong leadership role to
0:18:36 > 0:18:44take. It does this make me when I see that certain quite extreme
0:18:44 > 0:18:49people are actually being invited into the Palace of Westminster to
0:18:49 > 0:18:53propagate some of their hate.
0:18:53 > 0:18:55The UKIP peer didn't mention Tommy Robinson
0:18:55 > 0:18:59when he asked a question later.
0:18:59 > 0:19:02A former Labour cabinet minister said hate speech wouldn't be tackled
0:19:02 > 0:19:07by technical control of platforms alone, education was key.
0:19:07 > 0:19:15In the chequered history of this country, then there was a glorious
0:19:15 > 0:19:18hours and sacrifices were made, in order to defeat an ideology where at
0:19:18 > 0:19:25its core, had racial hatred, homophobic hatred, and political
0:19:25 > 0:19:31hatred as well. And that you abandoned the history of this
0:19:31 > 0:19:35country and its greatest hours by indulging in any of them and our
0:19:35 > 0:19:37young people should know that.
0:19:37 > 0:19:40The Minister agreed and stressed the need to respect the right
0:19:40 > 0:19:42to free speech without forgetting how many lives had been
0:19:42 > 0:19:45lost fighting hatred.
0:19:45 > 0:19:48UN investigators have said it's likely that crimes under
0:19:48 > 0:19:50international law had been committed against Rohingya Muslims
0:19:50 > 0:19:53in the Burmese state of Rakine.
0:19:53 > 0:19:56Hundreds of thousands of people have fled
0:19:56 > 0:19:58the violence and are now sheltering in refugee camps in
0:19:58 > 0:20:02neighbouring Bangladesh.
0:20:02 > 0:20:04They now face new dangers of landslides and flooding
0:20:04 > 0:20:07during the monsoon season.
0:20:07 > 0:20:10When a Foreign Office minister updated MPs on the situation he said
0:20:10 > 0:20:13the Burmese autorities has refused to allow the UN fact finding
0:20:13 > 0:20:18mission into the country.
0:20:18 > 0:20:25Despite this, after interviewing Rohingya refugees, the report
0:20:25 > 0:20:29revealed evidence of widespread and systematic rape and murder of her
0:20:29 > 0:20:32Hindi people and the distraction of their homes and villages, primarily
0:20:32 > 0:20:45by the Burmese military. -- of Rohingya people. Since August 2017,
0:20:45 > 0:20:54nearly 680,000 refugees have sought shelter. The UN special reporter for
0:20:54 > 0:20:58human rights in Burma recently stated the conflict had all the
0:20:58 > 0:21:03hallmarks of genocide. However, I must tell the House that the only
0:21:03 > 0:21:07path to prosecution for genocide were crimes against humanity is by
0:21:07 > 0:21:12the international criminal Court. It is a legal process. Burma is not a
0:21:12 > 0:21:16party to their own statute and must either therefore revert itself to
0:21:16 > 0:21:22the court or be referred by the UN Security Council. Neither
0:21:22 > 0:21:27eventuality is likely, I fear, in the short term.You will understand
0:21:27 > 0:21:30the long-standing view on the side of the House that is time to go
0:21:30 > 0:21:37further and be more public and using the UK's formal role as pen holder
0:21:37 > 0:21:40on Myanmar and the United Nations Security Council. The table
0:21:40 > 0:21:46resolutions on these vital issues. First, to table a resolution setting
0:21:46 > 0:21:51down the terms under which the repair attrition process should
0:21:51 > 0:21:56proceed and the future rights and protections that must be accorded to
0:21:56 > 0:22:02the Rohingya refugees and obliging the Myanmar authority to accede to
0:22:02 > 0:22:07these terms. Secondly, at the appropriate time, to table a
0:22:07 > 0:22:11resolution referring Myanmar to the international criminal Court. So
0:22:11 > 0:22:16that the generals who this week scandalously dismissed the UN's
0:22:16 > 0:22:21claims of ethnic cleansing and genocide and said instead that the
0:22:21 > 0:22:24Rohingya had burned down their own houses so that they can be brought
0:22:24 > 0:22:34to account.We will... There was taken place in Burma a human rights
0:22:34 > 0:22:38violation of the most serious kind. Amounting to crimes under
0:22:38 > 0:22:49international law and we've heard earlier,... As a speaker today, my
0:22:49 > 0:23:01own... Which was given to Aung San Suu Kyi for...The Minister has
0:23:01 > 0:23:05reminded the House today that they UN special reporter for human rights
0:23:05 > 0:23:11in Burma has described this conflict as having the hallmarks of genocide.
0:23:11 > 0:23:14It is therefore absolutely imperative that everything is done
0:23:14 > 0:23:19to bring the various actors to justice at the conclusion of it. The
0:23:19 > 0:23:22Minister is quite right to remind us about the challenges that we face in
0:23:22 > 0:23:29reaching that end but there is an immediate issue here, the most
0:23:29 > 0:23:33compelling evidence that will inform any prosecution in the future is to
0:23:33 > 0:23:37be found now. Can't the Minister tell me what the Government is doing
0:23:37 > 0:23:44to ensure that every piece of evidence that is available for
0:23:44 > 0:23:46future use is being sought and acquired at the moment?
0:23:46 > 0:23:48The minister said the British government was doing
0:23:48 > 0:23:52its best to make sure all the evidence was collected.
0:23:52 > 0:23:55There have claims that the creative industries will lose "vital
0:23:55 > 0:23:57protection" after the UK leaves the EU.
0:23:57 > 0:23:59A Liberal Democrat was worried about Brexit's impact on fashion
0:23:59 > 0:24:05and design-based industries.
0:24:05 > 0:24:10The heart exit from the EU means the loss of EU unregistered community
0:24:10 > 0:24:15design rights and vital protection for designers who first disclosed
0:24:15 > 0:24:19their designs in the UK. This is just the way to lose London Fashion
0:24:19 > 0:24:19Week.
0:24:19 > 0:24:21The business minister said new schemes would be
0:24:21 > 0:24:23established to protect rights.
0:24:23 > 0:24:31We will bring forward... To further our rights here, there are the
0:24:31 > 0:24:36negotiations that will take place in the EU, with the EU as part of the
0:24:36 > 0:24:43leaving process, which we hope will feel though such will deal with
0:24:43 > 0:24:44these matters.
0:24:44 > 0:24:46But that didn't convince one Labour peer.
0:24:46 > 0:24:52The amount of GDP that Fashion Week race of this country is enormous, we
0:24:52 > 0:24:57really needed to continue. Can you ensure that this industry is welcome
0:24:57 > 0:25:01here and will make sure that this will happen quickly otherwise they
0:25:01 > 0:25:05will look to go to Paris and Milan, because they are asking them and
0:25:05 > 0:25:10baiting them to come.I think the noble lady is taking a rather
0:25:10 > 0:25:16pessimistic view of things, but we are aware of those risks. When one
0:25:16 > 0:25:20thinks of the strengths of the industry in this country, I think
0:25:20 > 0:25:23it's unlikely it's going to leave overnight. But we will be in
0:25:23 > 0:25:30discussion with people such as the fashion Council, listen to their
0:25:30 > 0:25:35particular concerns and we will continue with our negotiations as
0:25:35 > 0:25:36part of the process.
0:25:37 > 0:25:38And that's it.
0:25:38 > 0:25:40Join me at the same time tomorrow for a look back
0:25:40 > 0:25:43at the whole Week in Parliament, but for now from me,
0:25:43 > 0:25:44Mandy Baker, goodbye.