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:00:00. > :00:00.On tonight's Timeline: We'll hear from the outgoing

:00:00. > :00:00.commissioner for children on whether there are enough

:00:07. > :00:12.safeguards in place for Scotland's young people.

:00:13. > :00:20.Andy Cook you cook all your meals for the weekend just one evening?

:00:21. > :00:43.MasterChef winner Gary Maclean tells us he thinks you should.

:00:44. > :00:48.we'll hear from Colin Campbell of Inverness on his plans

:00:49. > :00:54.We'll also step inside one of Scotland's grandest hidden

:00:55. > :00:59.And I've spoken to James Cosmo ahead of the release

:01:00. > :01:19.Let us offer a prayer of thanks to the Lord. And his wonderful gift.

:01:20. > :01:21.More from James Cosmo later. It's a question politicians

:01:22. > :01:24.and the public have been discussing for many years -

:01:25. > :01:26.should we have the right to end our own lives at a

:01:27. > :01:29.time of our choice? On the 15th of June,

:01:30. > :01:31.Colin Campbell from Inverness will end his own life

:01:32. > :01:33.at clinic in Switzerland. He spoke to our correspondent

:01:34. > :01:54.Jackie O'Brien. This is my sell now. I don't go

:01:55. > :02:00.anywhere so I am now a condemned man. Looking at you, you are full of

:02:01. > :02:05.energy, only 56, a lot of people think you have a lot of life left to

:02:06. > :02:12.live. Why did you decide to make this data? It was actually the

:02:13. > :02:21.clinic, they say, Wendy want this process to happen? It is left open

:02:22. > :02:25.to you. These are doctors and they have got to be satisfied they have

:02:26. > :02:30.sufficient medical evidence and they have interviewed you and they are

:02:31. > :02:37.satisfied you are making a decision that you have presented that it is

:02:38. > :02:47.in your best interest. The doctors are not involved. If you go

:02:48. > :02:52.somewhere, you have to activate the process yourself. Nobody is

:02:53. > :02:55.involved. Quite rightly, it would be murder and that is why whatever

:02:56. > :03:02.country it is, the law is very strict. I am just one of many people

:03:03. > :03:05.who have got a horrible medical condition and they would rather be

:03:06. > :03:14.dead because there is no hope for them. Really what I am hoping for is

:03:15. > :03:20.just to broaden the debate occurs it is circular. It will not go away.

:03:21. > :03:27.How are you prepared mentally as the date to end your life approaches? It

:03:28. > :03:34.seems like a long time away. People are saying to me, it seems imminent.

:03:35. > :03:41.To me it does not seem that at all. Your question would be more valid if

:03:42. > :03:48.it was the day before. Because of my MS, I do not know how quickly it

:03:49. > :03:52.will deteriorate and there is that dread. I am dependent on a

:03:53. > :03:58.wheelchair so I cannot be sure I will physically be able to be there

:03:59. > :04:03.on the 15th. But as I say, if you were interviewing me on the 14th, I

:04:04. > :04:11.would say this is an occasion of celebration. How people should be

:04:12. > :04:15.looking at this, Colin is one out with this illness and his death will

:04:16. > :04:17.give him relief. I'm joined now by Professor

:04:18. > :04:19.Scott Murray, who is the Chair of Primary Palliative Care

:04:20. > :04:29.at St Columba's Hospice. Colin feels his death will give him

:04:30. > :04:35.release. He is one out, what can you say to him? That's a difficult

:04:36. > :04:40.situation and the main issue is that it would have been great if he had

:04:41. > :04:45.some more support earlier on in the bonus to prevent such distress

:04:46. > :04:51.developing. The issue of early palliative care at the early

:04:52. > :04:56.diagnosis of the illness, it would have been good to chat with him and

:04:57. > :05:01.make a plan so he feels he has a choice to do various things not just

:05:02. > :05:06.at the end of life. He feels he is happy with his decision, he has made

:05:07. > :05:11.his choice and he wants to make it while he is well and in control of

:05:12. > :05:15.his faculties. He is quite distressed to be in this situation

:05:16. > :05:21.and if earlier on he had support to think about not just the physical

:05:22. > :05:25.things but the anxiety he has about the future, the social aspects of

:05:26. > :05:30.things and the questions about the meaning and purpose of life, to go

:05:31. > :05:38.through these things, because many people who do not have cancer and

:05:39. > :05:41.are dying of other illnesses have not had the opportunity to explore

:05:42. > :05:46.these aspects as much and that is something we need to address. Our

:05:47. > :05:50.viewers have been getting in touch about this. We can see what Malcolm

:05:51. > :06:18.has to say. He says: Do you respect that some people want

:06:19. > :06:25.the right to choose? Their time is very important in all aspects of

:06:26. > :06:28.life. Sometimes towards someone might be quite depressed and it

:06:29. > :06:35.would be hard to know if they would feel different later on. How do

:06:36. > :06:42.people prepare for a good death? A good death is from the diagnosis of

:06:43. > :06:46.a life-threatening illness, it is good to get support in these

:06:47. > :06:51.different I mention sand to make a plan because if there is a plan in

:06:52. > :06:57.place, it is more likely they will get the choices they wish. Do you

:06:58. > :07:01.think people with progressive illnesses are aware of the

:07:02. > :07:06.palliative care options? I don't think they are. I would be

:07:07. > :07:12.interested to ask Colin, but most do not consider palliative care as an

:07:13. > :07:16.option which is a shame. It has been developed for cancer services, but

:07:17. > :07:20.most people in Scotland who died two days of non-cancer things often do

:07:21. > :07:27.not have the support and that is possibly why most considered this in

:07:28. > :07:32.the end. Is this a conversation we are not having enough or early

:07:33. > :07:36.enough? Absolutely. Before people are ill, we should be talking about

:07:37. > :07:42.death and dying and the options available. There should be a public

:07:43. > :07:46.discourse so we can learn how people might, if someone gets an illness

:07:47. > :07:51.like this, what is it like so they can learn about it and make a plan,

:07:52. > :07:56.try to avoid the things they want to avoid and do things, a bucket list.

:07:57. > :08:02.It is helping someone to have a sense of resilience and wanting to

:08:03. > :08:03.continue on. Hopefully we have started the conversation tonight.

:08:04. > :08:06.Thank you for coming in. If you've been affected

:08:07. > :08:08.by what we've just been dicussing, and would like details

:08:09. > :08:10.of organisations which offer advice and support, you can go online

:08:11. > :08:12.to bbc.co.uk/actionline - The Leith Theatre in Edinburgh has

:08:13. > :08:21.been closed for nearly 30 years, despite the best efforts of a Trust

:08:22. > :08:23.which is trying to This month, it's throwing its doors

:08:24. > :08:59.open for the Hidden Door festival. The last performance was 1989 and it

:09:00. > :09:09.was closed due to the lack of usage. They closed it. It is hidden away

:09:10. > :09:15.and not visible from the street, so when you talk to the people about

:09:16. > :09:20.the Leith Theatre, they do not know there is this brilliant auditorium

:09:21. > :09:26.that has laid empty. There will be 160 performances at Hidden Door from

:09:27. > :09:34.theatre performances, young emerging artist, live music sets, national

:09:35. > :09:40.icons. We are particularly focused on bringing in new and emerging

:09:41. > :09:44.talent, stuff we feel is really exciting and will make a difference

:09:45. > :09:48.to the cultural landscape of Scotland and the artists, they see

:09:49. > :09:52.this place and they instantly fall in love with it. They love it and

:09:53. > :10:01.they understand that it needs to be brought back to life. I am joining

:10:02. > :10:07.pieces of driftwood that I have collected from around Scotland to

:10:08. > :10:12.make a linear sculpture that will cross the room. In the same way as

:10:13. > :10:18.Hidden Door see rooms in a theatre you would not normally see, it is

:10:19. > :10:28.really interesting so I will be exhibiting in one of those rooms. It

:10:29. > :10:35.is really exciting. I have lived in Leith for 15 years. It was something

:10:36. > :10:39.lacking in Edinburgh. It is a beautiful old building. When we were

:10:40. > :10:45.asked, we were not thinking of doing any gigs and when they said it was

:10:46. > :10:51.Leith Theatre, I said OK. It is somewhere I have always wanted to

:10:52. > :10:55.play. It is in a fair state of disrepair and why isn't someone

:10:56. > :10:59.using this? We have been asking about playing there for a long time

:11:00. > :11:06.and finally the opportunity has come. The keyword behind the project

:11:07. > :11:11.is persevere which is the motto of Leith. The building has persevered

:11:12. > :11:16.through many changes and precious and threats. We have got here at

:11:17. > :11:18.last and this great future ahead. The time is right for the Leith

:11:19. > :11:28.Theatre. A splendid looking theatre. One of the key roles

:11:29. > :11:30.of the children's commissioner Another is to make sure children

:11:31. > :11:34.always have someone they can trust There is a children's

:11:35. > :11:37.commissioner for every part Our commissioner here in Scotland

:11:38. > :11:45.was first established in 2004. The commissioner is supposed

:11:46. > :11:48.to protect children's rights - so that's everyone in Scotland under

:11:49. > :11:53.18, and young people in care Tam Baillie has been the second

:11:54. > :11:59.commissioner for Scotland - he's due to step down at the end

:12:00. > :12:17.of this month having been Welcome to the studio. Is it better

:12:18. > :12:24.growing up in Scotland today as a young person than it was ten, 20

:12:25. > :12:30.years ago? It is a mixed picture. Some things have improved, so one of

:12:31. > :12:36.the main things that has improved is people no longer ask whether why we

:12:37. > :12:43.should ask the views of children and young people. It is about how we ask

:12:44. > :12:47.the views of children and that is from Cabinet secretaries write the

:12:48. > :12:53.way down. Some things have remained the same so the levels of child

:12:54. > :12:57.poverty, which is the most corrosive impact on children's rights,

:12:58. > :13:04.well-being and about the same as they were ten years ago. And yes we

:13:05. > :13:08.do something about that, we will continue to spend disproportionate

:13:09. > :13:11.amounts of time, money and effort to try and familiar some of the impact

:13:12. > :13:16.of that and some things have got worse. We are rightly concerned

:13:17. > :13:24.about the mental health of children and young people. The international

:13:25. > :13:30.comparisons Scotland's children at age 11, children do well but by 15,

:13:31. > :13:36.they do not do so well compelled to their peers internationally. There

:13:37. > :13:40.is a particular dip in terms of the well-being of young females and I

:13:41. > :13:46.think the reasons are quite clearly known. If you look at research, it

:13:47. > :13:52.is not that clear about the kind of things that working terms of mental

:13:53. > :13:55.health. There may be something in terms of this being the first

:13:56. > :14:03.generation that live in a digital age and parents don't know the best

:14:04. > :14:08.way of handling the youngsters's engagement with digital media. You

:14:09. > :14:13.need to ask parents of children in primary school who will be badgering

:14:14. > :14:19.them about iPhones. There are so many issues you have to cover and I

:14:20. > :14:23.notice that you said one of the biggest regrets worse there is not a

:14:24. > :14:32.ban on smacking in Scotland. Why do you feel strongly on that issue?

:14:33. > :14:40.Legislation in Scotland: it's justifiable assault. We produced

:14:41. > :14:45.research which demonstrated clearly where there are bands on hitting

:14:46. > :14:51.children there is less incidents of physical abuse in those countries.

:14:52. > :14:57.The evidence is a very strong that one of the most effective ways of

:14:58. > :15:02.protecting children and reducing neglect is to legislate against

:15:03. > :15:06.hitting children. It does not lead to the criminalisation of children

:15:07. > :15:10.but it reduces the levels of physical abuse in those countries

:15:11. > :15:15.and the evidence is very compelling. What would you say to those that

:15:16. > :15:23.argue it is up to parents to decide how to discipline their children? We

:15:24. > :15:27.have to make sure parents have support and bringing in legislation

:15:28. > :15:32.against smacking or I do not actually call that smacking, it is

:15:33. > :15:38.of violence against children,... Even when it is just a... The

:15:39. > :15:43.evidence shows that can be the thin end of the wedge and in a society

:15:44. > :15:50.that tolerates hitting children levels of abuse rise or higher than

:15:51. > :15:59.in countries that do not. Some of the historic abuse is now big

:16:00. > :16:08.breasted -- is now being do you have confidence in the enquiry -- it is

:16:09. > :16:13.now being investigated. We have already instances where people are

:16:14. > :16:21.dying before they have any redress or justice in terms of what happened

:16:22. > :16:24.to as children. I think the enquiry is proceeding along a path where

:16:25. > :16:30.they have two reach a balance between being wide enough to take

:16:31. > :16:34.account of children who have been abused in different circumstances

:16:35. > :16:40.but not so wide it would take forever to reach conclusions. It has

:16:41. > :16:45.taken two years. Our children being let down? If we expanded it it would

:16:46. > :16:51.take even longer. We always knew it would take around four years but

:16:52. > :16:56.that is not to say this will be the only enquiry and you have the

:16:57. > :16:58.Scottish Football Association having their own independent enquiry and

:16:59. > :17:06.there may be a need for others as well but we must get on before too

:17:07. > :17:14.many people die in the process. I would say, in terms of Scottish

:17:15. > :17:19.football, that is not the only issue they have to deal with, because the

:17:20. > :17:24.circumstances that lead to children being abused are about power

:17:25. > :17:30.imbalances, people of unsupervised access and about silence and that is

:17:31. > :17:36.why I welcome the willingness of people to seek the views of young

:17:37. > :17:42.people and have confidence in what they say about their experiences.

:17:43. > :17:45.Thank you for coming in. Children's' commissioner for how many more days?

:17:46. > :17:48.Another nine days. It became a famous novel

:17:49. > :17:51.by Compton Mackenzie and one of our best-loved Ealing comedies,

:17:52. > :17:55.but now the true story of the cargo of whisky which got washed ashore

:17:56. > :17:58.on Eriskay in the '40s The new movie of Whisky Galore

:17:59. > :18:01.is released tomorrow and stars Scottish favourites

:18:02. > :18:03.like Gregor Fisher and James Cosmo, I asked him how this version

:18:04. > :18:20.compares with the original. The 1940s original was an iconic

:18:21. > :18:25.piece of cinema history and it has a wonderful magic to it and the first

:18:26. > :18:31.telling of Compton Mackenzie's story. But I think this revisiting

:18:32. > :18:40.has a different slant to it, it is a wonderful script and it is just a

:18:41. > :18:44.different telling of a classic. The classic was an Ealing comedy, does

:18:45. > :18:51.the new film retain a sense of humour of the original? Very much

:18:52. > :18:59.so. I think the director and writer very much wanted to recapture that

:19:00. > :19:06.gentle, inoffensive humour that is so rear now. Was it fun to meet? It

:19:07. > :19:12.was a lot of fun. Sadly we were not on an island, we shot in Fife which

:19:13. > :19:17.is stunningly beautiful but not on the actual location. I gather some

:19:18. > :19:23.of the film was shot in the north-east. How was that as a

:19:24. > :19:27.stand-in for the Western Isles? Very well indeed. I do not think you will

:19:28. > :19:36.notice, and we had some wonderful vocals that joined us. I think it

:19:37. > :19:41.will look great. And you play McAllister the minister. Tell us

:19:42. > :19:47.about your character. It is that free Church of Scotland minister who

:19:48. > :19:53.puts a bit of a damper on things but also likes a bit of a Dram now and

:19:54. > :19:56.then. He was an interesting character to play. A bit more sombre

:19:57. > :20:09.than the funny characters that surround him. Let us offer thanks to

:20:10. > :20:17.the Lord and his wonderful gift. You are also starting at the moment

:20:18. > :20:20.in a film that has been released and which you play in lonely boxer

:20:21. > :20:28.estranged from his son and used start alongside your own son, Ethan.

:20:29. > :20:32.What was that like? Not really alongside, he did not play a huge

:20:33. > :20:37.part but it was quite odd. I remember working with my father when

:20:38. > :20:42.I first started acting and I found it very uncomfortable so when my son

:20:43. > :20:47.was in Canada I made myself scarce and left him to it. -- was on

:20:48. > :20:53.camera. It was charming. I do not think it is his chosen career as yet

:20:54. > :21:00.but it was nice to be with them on something that was very important to

:21:01. > :21:07.me. On that, why was it so important to you? It is in my 53 years of my

:21:08. > :21:14.career it is the one piece of work I am truly proud of. It just means a

:21:15. > :21:19.great deal to me. It was a very personal peace and was beautifully

:21:20. > :21:26.written and I am very proud of everyone at work on it. It is just

:21:27. > :21:36.something that means a lot to me. You have been in train spotting,

:21:37. > :21:42.Highlander, Game Of Thrones. And this is the one thing you're proud

:21:43. > :21:47.of? Surely there is more. When you think Braveheart and things, it is

:21:48. > :21:53.hard to be proud of the huge production, I was a time a court in

:21:54. > :21:58.a huge machine. He also appeared this year in celebrity Big Brother.

:21:59. > :22:03.How would you persuaded to do that? To be honest, there was a very large

:22:04. > :22:09.check involved and I sometimes think why did I do that but in retrospect

:22:10. > :22:15.I am very glad I did. I learned quite a lot about myself and other

:22:16. > :22:20.people and I think it was amazing I lasted 32 days without killing

:22:21. > :22:28.anyone! It was an experience most people cannot imagine having, being

:22:29. > :22:36.stuck in a room with some strange sort of people. For that length of

:22:37. > :22:42.time. With no outside stimulus at all, no reading material, notebooks,

:22:43. > :22:48.no TV, nothing, you were just stuck there. Thank you for to us. And he

:22:49. > :22:53.got beaten by Jedward! Is cooking in bulk, one day

:22:54. > :22:55.of the week, the solution Professional Masterchef winner

:22:56. > :22:58.Gary Maclean thinks so. We went along to one of his classes

:22:59. > :23:01.at City of Glasgow College to see him put his theory

:23:02. > :23:19.to the test. Garay gave us a Haggis neeps and

:23:20. > :23:25.tatties, better than I think I have ever had. You have done a

:23:26. > :23:26.sensational bush and you have mailed the flag of Scotland well and truly

:23:27. > :23:47.to the mast. I want you to test the letter. It

:23:48. > :23:51.makes me feel like I am under someone very famous, it makes me

:23:52. > :24:01.feel special to be one of his students. When I cook at home I am

:24:02. > :24:07.not cooking Masterchef food, I am doing casseroles and curries.

:24:08. > :24:14.Fundamentally, what my Gran made, I am just bringing it back home and

:24:15. > :24:19.cooking fresh food. I think the main way to cook at home, whether you

:24:20. > :24:24.have a big family or not, is to plan. If you open the fridge door

:24:25. > :24:28.when you come home from work and see what is for dinner you have failed

:24:29. > :24:32.and you will not eat healthily because by the time you start

:24:33. > :24:37.cooking it will be 9pm before you have dinner. I can understand why

:24:38. > :24:40.people go for the convenience option but I want to convince people

:24:41. > :24:48.cooking all your meals for the week on one night is relatively quite

:24:49. > :24:53.easy and the whole family can eat much better throughout the week if

:24:54. > :24:58.you do it. If you can get it all done at once you are using less

:24:59. > :25:02.energy, you are using you them for many things at the same time and

:25:03. > :25:07.also cutting back on the time and the clean-up and cooking fresh food.

:25:08. > :25:12.I do not think the cooking is the hard part, you do need some sort of

:25:13. > :25:16.skill and knowledge but the hard part is getting out that routine and

:25:17. > :25:27.finding the time in the week to dedicate that to what you eat.

:25:28. > :25:33.I would be happy to try cooking all my meals because when you have

:25:34. > :25:41.things sitting and you are stirring you can taste as you go. Real

:25:42. > :25:45.texture as well. Looking at the food I have seen today, it is

:25:46. > :25:50.outstanding, there is no way I would buy anything convenience of frozen

:25:51. > :25:55.again. It is fantastic to see how much Gary has achieved in such a

:25:56. > :25:59.short space of time, I think I could do that on a Sunday afternoon. I

:26:00. > :26:05.think there is big savings to be made because you by and cook in bulk

:26:06. > :26:06.so even when you used your oven and things like that you are saving a

:26:07. > :26:20.lot. That was very impressive, I do not

:26:21. > :26:22.think I can work that fast. Of course, Gary is a professional so we

:26:23. > :26:25.want to test his theory. We asked two brave members

:26:26. > :26:27.of the Scottish Women's Institutes, which runs several cookery courses,

:26:28. > :26:29.to give it a go. Lindsey Finnie and Catherine

:26:30. > :26:39.O'Halloran are here. Welcome. Now, Gary managed for

:26:40. > :26:46.recipes in one hour, how did you get on, Catherine, first of all. I took

:26:47. > :26:51.a bit longer, admittedly. It was two and a half hours, but in between

:26:52. > :26:55.that there was a bit of a blunder and I put the wrong item on the

:26:56. > :27:01.shopping list which my husband got so I had to go to the shop. About

:27:02. > :27:07.two and hours with two of us cooking. Lindsay? Three hours and

:27:08. > :27:13.three dishes. I did not make it to the magic for but I was making my

:27:14. > :27:20.own chicken stock which delayed me. That is showing off, isn't it? The

:27:21. > :27:25.whole experience was quite enjoyable and something I have not done in

:27:26. > :27:29.quite a while. We can see you and packing the ingredients with a child

:27:30. > :27:33.running around. How was that because Gary is on his special kitchen but

:27:34. > :27:39.you have real life too contends with. Yes, real life gets in the way

:27:40. > :27:44.but when you make the time and decide to plan to do it at the time

:27:45. > :27:49.you have got eight slots, you can mitigate against that. For me, and

:27:50. > :27:56.evening is the best time. I don't have time at the weekend as a busy

:27:57. > :28:00.working mums are fitting in things with family and you do not have time

:28:01. > :28:04.to devote to seeing you take the kids and I will set you in the

:28:05. > :28:07.kitchen for three hours so it is a collaborative effort and that is

:28:08. > :28:13.what we both felt, doing it in the evening with your husband or partner

:28:14. > :28:18.was the way to do it. If you choose to cook in bulk do you have to be

:28:19. > :28:27.careful what you choose because some things free is better than others. I

:28:28. > :28:35.was surprised at the use of beans because I think Gary soaked beans

:28:36. > :28:42.overnight and I did a short cut and got tens. I would have done that.

:28:43. > :28:46.Exactly. But I wonder if it would disintegrate but we will see. But

:28:47. > :28:51.all of those would have been perfect. They are just in the fridge

:28:52. > :28:55.because my family will hoover them up. I quite often do a chilly

:28:56. > :29:03.Bolognese at the weekend. But this is something you would carry on

:29:04. > :29:06.with? Absolutely. The meat element was interested because I do not

:29:07. > :29:09.usually cook with so much meat so to bring in more vegetables would be

:29:10. > :29:10.interesting. In the meantime, if there's

:29:11. > :29:16.something you Want us to follow up, it's easy to get in touch on

:29:17. > :29:19.social media or by emailing And we'll see you next Thursday,

:29:20. > :29:22.when we'll introduce you to the Perthshire supergran

:29:23. > :29:25.who gets about by micro-scooter.