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:00:00. > :00:08.We look at why calling directory enquiries 118 services can now

:00:09. > :00:12.cost a minimum of ?9, and hear from Money Saving Expert

:00:13. > :00:15.Martin Lewis about what should be done.

:00:16. > :00:18.Also - Commonwealth Games medallist Stephanie Inglis will be here,

:00:19. > :00:21.a year on from the motorcycle accident that almost

:00:22. > :00:54.If you're tired of the general election

:00:55. > :00:59.campaign, we bring you our top tips for surviving the rest of it.

:01:00. > :01:06.And there's a new superhero on the scene -

:01:07. > :01:14.find out what her special powers are later.

:01:15. > :01:19.Have you ever had a nasty shock after opening your phone bill?

:01:20. > :01:22.The issue's been in the spotlight this week, after it emerged it now

:01:23. > :01:25.costs almost ?9 per minute to call the directory

:01:26. > :01:32.It's not the only one - many companies charge even more.

:01:33. > :01:34.We'll get the views of the Money Saving Expert,

:01:35. > :01:37.But first, we hear from one angry pensioner

:01:38. > :02:06.As soon as I saw the amount on the front of the bill, I knew there was

:02:07. > :02:13.something wrong. No way have we ever had a phone bill of ?107 will stop

:02:14. > :02:19.the most it's ever been is ?32. I knew there was something not right.

:02:20. > :02:30.Then I went through and saw the ?81 come I just couldn't believe it.

:02:31. > :02:36.Iran 118 and said, there is no way I'm paying this ?81, it's

:02:37. > :02:43.ridiculous. They said, you have no choice. You rang it, you have to. I

:02:44. > :02:49.said, yes, but there is nothing to say. I didn't realise how much it

:02:50. > :02:53.was going to cost. It is went on and on. I said, I'm going to the papers.

:02:54. > :03:13.And that's what I did. I think people should just be made

:03:14. > :03:19.aware of what can happen. And that there are these charges there and,

:03:20. > :03:24.all right, I think most people realise when you ring the likes of

:03:25. > :03:29.118, and you will be charged so much a minute, but what they don't

:03:30. > :03:32.realise is the extra charges that the phone companies put on, because

:03:33. > :03:38.that is not mentioned anywhere. There are so many now. I mean, at

:03:39. > :03:43.one time you just had directory inquiries and that was bad. Now you

:03:44. > :03:49.have directory inquiries, 118, there are all sorts of networks, isn't

:03:50. > :03:52.there? I think they should standardise the costs. They give

:03:53. > :03:55.anybody pay and have the same rate. There are so many different rates,

:03:56. > :03:58.it is a minefield out there. In that case, Carol was eventually

:03:59. > :04:01.refunded the cost of the call after it hit the press,

:04:02. > :04:04.and 118 118 said they offer But how did we get to the stage

:04:05. > :04:09.of these high call charges? I put that question to Money Saving

:04:10. > :04:21.Expert Martin Lewis earlier. Because we fundamentally under

:04:22. > :04:24.regulated this since it was put out to the open market. We've got

:04:25. > :04:29.companies who are just charging more and more money, and we presume they

:04:30. > :04:33.are doing it because they are less business. The problem with that is,

:04:34. > :04:37.I did a Twitter poll on this today, I asked, the people who use Twitter

:04:38. > :04:41.and social media have called directory inquiries in the last year

:04:42. > :04:45.and it was about 3% of people, which is not surprising at all. Would you

:04:46. > :04:50.have to assume is that it is the vulnerable and elderly, those who

:04:51. > :04:54.are already information -- disenfranchised, who are making

:04:55. > :05:00.these calls. These rates are abominable. The big one that

:05:01. > :05:04.everybody knows, 118 118, ?4 95 it charges just to call, and then

:05:05. > :05:09.another five or a minute. If you are on for four minutes, it is 20 quit.

:05:10. > :05:17.The same company has another number, it doesn't publicise, 118 118, which

:05:18. > :05:19.has a flat rate. This is absolutely disgraceful profiteering and the

:05:20. > :05:24.people who are suffering the most are the ones who will be most

:05:25. > :05:29.vulnerable and need the money most. 118 118 are not the only ones doing

:05:30. > :05:33.it. How do the companies justify it? They don't, they don't have to

:05:34. > :05:37.justify it. Ask them how to justify it, but there is no rule, there is

:05:38. > :05:42.no price cap, they can charge whatever they like. They can charge

:05:43. > :05:46.?10 a minute, ?20 a minute if they chose to. They put these prices in,

:05:47. > :05:50.we have had some minor improvements in transparency in the way that they

:05:51. > :05:54.were, that they are now telling you mostly the price. But those people

:05:55. > :05:57.who have no other route to calling these, it is not businesses or

:05:58. > :06:02.people online you can do it themselves, and it gets worse. In

:06:03. > :06:06.many cases, you pay extortionate rates for calling 118# then they

:06:07. > :06:10.say, would you like us to connect you? They are connecting you to a

:06:11. > :06:17.local number that is in your free minutes, but if they do connect, you

:06:18. > :06:21.continue to pay the rate for 118, if you are on for a half hour, it can

:06:22. > :06:27.be an absolute fortune. There are some cheaper numbers out there.

:06:28. > :06:31.There was 118 383, a 50p flat rate. There is also an advertising number

:06:32. > :06:35.that you have to call the number but listen to a some adverts, but it is

:06:36. > :06:41.free. But if you cannot avoid it, get on a search engine and find the

:06:42. > :06:47.number yourself. This is a ripoff. I had a great idea, what we could do

:06:48. > :06:51.is have one number, let's say 192, which is run by the state which

:06:52. > :06:56.gives you the access to all the information you want for 15p. I've

:06:57. > :07:01.just thought of that now! You would like to see a return to regulation?

:07:02. > :07:03.We certainly need regulation and we certainly need to stop the

:07:04. > :07:09.profiteering of the vulnerable people. Whether we go back, to be

:07:10. > :07:12.serious, to the days of 192, I don't care about that. I care that the

:07:13. > :07:15.people who are often disenfranchised from the Internet and don't have

:07:16. > :07:19.smartphones and are not up-to-date with the technology, there were some

:07:20. > :07:22.are that they can cheaply call up to find out a number, otherwise you

:07:23. > :07:26.have to understand the social impact of this. You're cutting people off

:07:27. > :07:30.from doing what they want. Some of these people will be housebound. I

:07:31. > :07:32.don't think charging the vast and exorbitant amounts of money that we

:07:33. > :07:36.are charging right now for these 118 118 is what was meant to happen when

:07:37. > :07:41.we privatise this and opened it up to the market. Ofcom, the regulator,

:07:42. > :07:45.needs to crack down on this excessive profiteering. What else

:07:46. > :07:49.would you like to see them doing? A cap on charges? I would like to see

:07:50. > :07:54.the charges come down, absolutely. If flat rate per call, a couple of

:07:55. > :07:56.numbers in. I would like to make sure everybody understands very

:07:57. > :07:59.clearly that if they connect you onwards, you might be paying that

:08:00. > :08:05.call charge even if it could be free. I like them to say, we could

:08:06. > :08:08.connect you onwards for a charge of ?4 a minute, or you can call

:08:09. > :08:12.yourself and it would be free, we can text or send you the number.

:08:13. > :08:16.There are easy solutions were doing this. But for most people, the

:08:17. > :08:21.people who make policy and most people like me and you do not use

:08:22. > :08:24.118 118 is anymore, it is only the vulnerable and information

:08:25. > :08:27.disenfranchised to use these numbers, they're allowed to get away

:08:28. > :08:29.with doing whatever they want to do. Thank you for joining us.

:08:30. > :08:31.We asked the regulator Ofcom for comment on this.

:08:32. > :08:33.It says it's very concerned about the rising prices

:08:34. > :08:35.of some 118 numbers, and is already planning to review

:08:36. > :08:37.the market to ensure prices are transparent and fair

:08:38. > :08:52.I was just thinking, the last time I dialed her rectory, I think it was

:08:53. > :08:57.still 192. How long ago was that? More than ten years. -- the

:08:58. > :08:59.directory. Now, it's exactly four weeks today

:09:00. > :09:01.till the general election. Maybe that's got you all excited,

:09:02. > :09:04.but if it hasn't, here's James Devoy with his top tips for surviving

:09:05. > :09:26.until the 8th of June. Come on, BBC, we did this last week.

:09:27. > :09:34.We cannot have another election! I'm still trying to figure out motion of

:09:35. > :09:38.seats. Fine, let's do it. Yes, we're going to have another general

:09:39. > :09:49.election. Here are my top five tips for surviving it. I protection, you

:09:50. > :09:50.see so many politicians plastering fake grins across their mouths is

:09:51. > :10:07.enough to give anybody I strain. Next support. No matter what side of

:10:08. > :10:11.the argument you're on, you will either be nodding or shaking your

:10:12. > :10:21.head constantly until the next general election. Perot Ted, bend at

:10:22. > :10:27.the waist. Look stupid, keep your neck. Just like that! Don't bend at

:10:28. > :10:41.the waist for shaking. Keep calm. It's important to centre

:10:42. > :10:47.yourself in the morning. Let's get some whale songs, some yoga, some

:10:48. > :10:48.other nonsense. Before turning on your TV and throwing it straight out

:10:49. > :11:01.the window. Stay hydrated. Remember your fruits

:11:02. > :11:03.and vegetables. This is a good tip because I care about your health.

:11:04. > :11:18.Yes, stay hydrated. And the number one top tip for

:11:19. > :11:22.surviving this is not general election is just be nice to

:11:23. > :11:27.everyone. It's not hard, just a bit of the basic civility. Yes, people

:11:28. > :11:32.are going to say things and you're not going to agree, but keep your

:11:33. > :11:39.cool. Depending on who wins, obviously.

:11:40. > :11:40.I hope you were taking notes there. I am taking notes and keeping cool

:11:41. > :11:42.the whole campaign! In 2014, Stephanie Inglis

:11:43. > :11:44.was a Scottish medal hero at the Commonwealth Games

:11:45. > :11:49.in Glasgow, winning silver in judo. But a year ago this week,

:11:50. > :11:52.Stephanie's life took a terrible turn, after a motorcycle crash

:11:53. > :11:54.in Vietnam left her fighting She defied the odds to pull

:11:55. > :12:04.through - and now says her ultimate aim is to compete

:12:05. > :12:06.again for Scotland. Stephanie joins us now,

:12:07. > :12:15.alongside her dad Robert. Delighted to see you looking so

:12:16. > :12:21.well. Where exactly were you this very moment last year? This time

:12:22. > :12:24.last year was the day of my actual accident, so I was either sitting in

:12:25. > :12:30.an ambulance outside the hospital or on my way to Hanoi to start getting

:12:31. > :12:36.treatment. It has been quite a year. You look well, how are you doing?

:12:37. > :12:40.I'm doing well, I've made great progress. I've just recently started

:12:41. > :12:43.work at the beginning of April. Working two days a week at the

:12:44. > :12:46.moment. I'm doing good, making good progress and starting to get back on

:12:47. > :12:52.track. It's nice to see how far I have come in a year. You had gone to

:12:53. > :12:56.Vietnam to teach youngsters, that's why you were there. But what

:12:57. > :13:01.happened? I was teaching English as a foreign language to the Vietnamese

:13:02. > :13:05.children, I was in a primary school and a secondary school. That

:13:06. > :13:10.morning, and normally my primary school is about six km away, so I

:13:11. > :13:13.would cycle to work every morning. But the only time I wouldn't cycle

:13:14. > :13:18.is if it was really hot in the Sun was out, I didn't want to turn up

:13:19. > :13:22.all sweaty. So this morning, it was a sunny day, I decided to get a lift

:13:23. > :13:26.that is supplied to us, which is a motorcycle taxi. Off we went, he

:13:27. > :13:30.dropped me off at the school, I taught my two classes that morning,

:13:31. > :13:37.which I remember. I said goodbye to my last class, walked down the

:13:38. > :13:40.steps, put my helmet on, and I was wearing a long skirt that touch the

:13:41. > :13:47.ground, he told me to ride side saddle. I did, off we went back to

:13:48. > :13:53.the apartment and then I don't burn them until I woke up six weeks later

:13:54. > :13:57.in Edinburgh. Your clothes got caught in the wheel? Element it got

:13:58. > :14:02.caught in the bike and I was pulled off.

:14:03. > :14:05.Do you remember receiving the news of what happened? It must've been

:14:06. > :14:09.530 in the morning and it was a phone call from one of Stephanie's

:14:10. > :14:13.friends, one of the teachers aimed at Stephanie had been in an

:14:14. > :14:18.accident. He didn't know how serious it is, she would call us back, just

:14:19. > :14:22.to let us know. So we woke up, in another 20 minutes we got another

:14:23. > :14:27.call, telling us it is quite serious, we would have to try and

:14:28. > :14:31.come over. In about four hours, we were on a plane. A lot of people

:14:32. > :14:35.give us a hand to get organised, but that was... That was a hard journey

:14:36. > :14:40.going over to see what we were going to expect. We didn't know what to

:14:41. > :14:42.expect. We knew she had an accident, but we didn't know how serious it

:14:43. > :14:46.was. Then there was the news that your

:14:47. > :14:51.medical insurance didn't cover the cost of surgery. An incredible

:14:52. > :14:58.crowdfunding campaign was set up by your campaign. How much did it raise

:14:59. > :15:04.in the end? 350,000 pounds raised by Khalid Gehlan. Amazing, such quick

:15:05. > :15:11.thinking. She did so well for me. You're now working, things are going

:15:12. > :15:15.well? What about the judo? I have had talks with my surgeon, he is not

:15:16. > :15:20.keen for me to return to the sport because it is a full contact sport,

:15:21. > :15:25.he thinks a risk of another head injury could be... I wouldn't come

:15:26. > :15:29.through that. However, I have spoken to another surgeon and he had said,

:15:30. > :15:33.your brain is like any other muscle, or if you break your leg, for

:15:34. > :15:40.example, it is fixed will stop when your brain is healed, it is healed.

:15:41. > :15:44.Are you taking the first opinion or second opinion? I will take a couple

:15:45. > :15:49.of years to let everything settle down, maybe get some more test done,

:15:50. > :15:54.some scans, then weigh up the risks and possibilities of returning.

:15:55. > :15:59.What does the coach say? That is debatable at the time. But

:16:00. > :16:03.she is keen, she is staying motivated, she know she has that to

:16:04. > :16:07.taint them cap, that is the problem that the surgeons are talking about.

:16:08. > :16:14.That is bolted on, if that means, it could be a problem.

:16:15. > :16:18.Commonwealth Games 2022? That is the long-term goal. If I am

:16:19. > :16:22.back training by 2020, I think I have a good chance of qualifying and

:16:23. > :16:26.hopefully winning another medal. We wish you all the very best.

:16:27. > :16:30.Thank you very much for coming in. Thank you.

:16:31. > :16:32.2017 is set to be a record year for bank branch

:16:33. > :16:36.It causes big problems for older people, especially in rural areas.

:16:37. > :16:39.One thing that could help fill the void are credit unions.

:16:40. > :16:41.They're set up by communities themselves, and can also keep people

:16:42. > :16:43.away from payday lenders or loan sharks.

:16:44. > :16:59.We've been to visit one to see how they work.

:17:00. > :17:07.Good afternoon. Pollock credit union. How can I help you? Pollock

:17:08. > :17:12.credit union is an organisation that has been to help the community to

:17:13. > :17:17.save and to borrow with low interest rates, to try to take the money from

:17:18. > :17:23.the payday lenders and also the loan sharks. We do everything that a bank

:17:24. > :17:27.would do, but more ethical. And we seem to get more trust from the

:17:28. > :17:34.local community and our members because we are not for profit. What

:17:35. > :17:37.we always try to provide is that face to face with people because

:17:38. > :17:43.what we have seen is that people still like to come in and chat to

:17:44. > :17:51.our staff members and volunteers. Hi. I actually a member, funnily

:17:52. > :17:57.enough. I have worked here for 12 years. We have more people coming in

:17:58. > :18:02.because they cannot get to the banks and they are worried about when they

:18:03. > :18:06.need something or need help. It is the older ones who do not have

:18:07. > :18:13.online banking or do not know how to work computers so they are lost and

:18:14. > :18:19.then they come in and can talk about anything that day. So that

:18:20. > :18:22.conversation for a couple moments doesn't take long and they are happy

:18:23. > :18:28.when they walk out the door again. It is just the face to face and

:18:29. > :18:33.putting a smile on your face. I haven't actually started a savings

:18:34. > :18:36.account yet, but I think I will be doing that. It is good for going on

:18:37. > :18:43.holidays and things like that. It is really good. I had a few friends

:18:44. > :18:47.that told me about it so I just joined so I could try to save up

:18:48. > :18:50.some money in case there was any emergencies and my car has broken

:18:51. > :18:55.down recently so I need to buy a new car. We have had various instances

:18:56. > :19:07.of people who have never saved before or suddenly having ?100 or

:19:08. > :19:10.?200 in the bank. With a scheduled 21 bank closures in the Glasgow area

:19:11. > :19:16.alone this year, I believe that we have a great opportunity to deliver

:19:17. > :19:21.a service to the community, which is probably better than a high street

:19:22. > :19:26.bank and will allow us then to serve the local organisations and the

:19:27. > :19:32.community to a much better standard of service. Let's pick up her

:19:33. > :19:36.business reporter Laura McKeever. How popular are credit unions

:19:37. > :19:41.becoming in Scotland? Well, it is growing. There has been a 7% rise in

:19:42. > :19:45.deposits to credit unions here in Scotland just last year and a 2%

:19:46. > :19:47.rise in membership as well you're in Scotland, so now all the credit

:19:48. > :19:53.unions in Scotland between them are holding about half ?1 billion and

:19:54. > :19:58.actually credit unions need to hold more cash than the rest of the banks

:19:59. > :20:01.at anyone time to show that they cannot go bust, basically, so at the

:20:02. > :20:04.moment of that half ?1 billion, around half that will be loaned out

:20:05. > :20:09.to members and half of that will be staying safely they are in the

:20:10. > :20:11.credit union. And can anybody join a credit union? I think there has

:20:12. > :20:15.always been a perception that you have to be struggling financially to

:20:16. > :20:23.join but that is not actually the case. What need is a link to the

:20:24. > :20:26.credit union, so usually that would be a geographic link, so if you live

:20:27. > :20:29.in a certain postcode in Glasgow and there is a credit union attached to

:20:30. > :20:31.that you can apply to join and they are also linked to employers and

:20:32. > :20:35.organisations as well so we will see an NHS credit union, a police

:20:36. > :20:39.service credit union, and some are also connected to charities and

:20:40. > :20:44.other organisations. Around 7% of the population are now using them,

:20:45. > :20:48.so this is a growing thing in Scotland. Scotland has the fourth

:20:49. > :20:52.highest level of credit union membership in Europe now, after

:20:53. > :20:57.Ireland, Northern Ireland, and Poland. Well, thanks very much

:20:58. > :20:58.indeed. I know you are back with the election Reporting Scotland later on

:20:59. > :21:00.tonight. It's the troubled zoo

:21:01. > :21:02.which was threatened with closure, after the death of nearly 500

:21:03. > :21:04.of its animals. But this week, South Lakes Safari

:21:05. > :21:08.Zoo in Cumbria was allowed to remain open after a decision by the local

:21:09. > :21:11.council, which said there had been a 'change of culture.' It was also

:21:12. > :21:15.in the headlines four years ago for safety breaches after keeper

:21:16. > :21:17.Sarah McClay, from Glasgow, We're joined now by Sarah's

:21:18. > :21:33.mother, Fiona, who was at What do you make of the council's

:21:34. > :21:36.decision to give the zoo a license? Well, it is not something that I

:21:37. > :21:39.would have wanted but unfortunately the way that legislation is at the

:21:40. > :21:44.moment is that they have been seen to tick the boxes that are necessary

:21:45. > :21:47.for them to be given a licence and a chance. Do you agree that they have

:21:48. > :21:50.made the cultural changes that they say they have? I agree they have

:21:51. > :21:54.made the visible changes for the inspectors. I am not sure at the

:21:55. > :21:58.cultural changes are necessarily better. So what kind of changes do

:21:59. > :22:01.you think they should be making? I think that the staff should have

:22:02. > :22:05.been changed. It is still the same staff that bird at their part from

:22:06. > :22:09.the owner of the zoo, so how can there possibly be as great a change

:22:10. > :22:15.when there has only been one person removed? Suggest about this stuff? I

:22:16. > :22:18.think so, yes. If those people had wanted to sort out what is going on,

:22:19. > :22:22.they would have. They stated they were looking these over six months

:22:23. > :22:26.of the year when the owner was gone, why did they not do something about

:22:27. > :22:32.what was going on? What recognition that these are like when Sarah work

:22:33. > :22:35.there? They appeared safe. She never commented about a safety problem as

:22:36. > :22:38.far as looking after the animals were concerned. She was quite happy

:22:39. > :22:44.that the animals were looked after but there was concern that about 54

:22:45. > :22:48.keepers. That was a definite end. They were not provided with all of

:22:49. > :22:52.the equipment that they needed and I have seen myself that there was a

:22:53. > :22:56.keeper who was wearing waterproof trousers and they were in shreds.

:22:57. > :23:00.That is not suitable. That person should have had protective clothing

:23:01. > :23:05.on. What were the health and safety buildings that contributed to

:23:06. > :23:08.Sarah's death? I think the main thing is the building that the

:23:09. > :23:11.attacks happened and was not designed by a person who knew how to

:23:12. > :23:16.design a building. It was designed by a building he was not a building

:23:17. > :23:20.engineer, a structural engineer, who put together a plan and built it

:23:21. > :23:23.with concrete. It just did not work properly. There were people who said

:23:24. > :23:26.at the inquest and also during the prosecution trial that all the doors

:23:27. > :23:32.should not have been able to open at the same time as any layperson would

:23:33. > :23:36.understand that. Have those issues being overcome? I do not know that

:23:37. > :23:39.they necessarily have. There had been external changes to the

:23:40. > :23:42.buildings are one of the problems was that you could not see from

:23:43. > :23:45.outside what was going on in a corridor. That has been changed. The

:23:46. > :23:49.door is now at the end so you can see in. And what about in terms of

:23:50. > :23:54.animal welfare, which has been another issue. It certainly has been

:23:55. > :24:04.an issue. No one can understand why so many animals have not been looked

:24:05. > :24:07.after properly, why whistle-blowers have not said anything. That was not

:24:08. > :24:18.discussed at the licensing meeting. All stop -- but the zoo endeavour to

:24:19. > :24:21.do was to discredit these people and say that they were not worthy of

:24:22. > :24:26.giving their comments. Are you saying that you want this zoo

:24:27. > :24:28.shutdown? I think I want the zoo punchbag different people but have

:24:29. > :24:32.been running it during the time when all of these things have been going

:24:33. > :24:35.on. After all you have been through, I am surprised that you're not

:24:36. > :24:39.sitting here and saying that you do not think we should have zoos at

:24:40. > :24:48.all. I am not against zoos and I think that zoos can be safe.

:24:49. > :24:51.Anything can be dangerous if you are driving your car at 70 mph in the

:24:52. > :24:53.fast lane, that is dangerous, but you do not think about it because

:24:54. > :24:56.you assume that everyone else will try to be as safe as you are and

:24:57. > :24:58.when you enter a zoo you automatically think that someone

:24:59. > :25:03.else has been there before you and has ticked boxes that say you must

:25:04. > :25:06.build your zoo like this and the legislation and licensing laws need

:25:07. > :25:12.to be changed. And what with this operation need to do to demonstrate

:25:13. > :25:15.to you that they are fit to run a zoo? They need to give me precise

:25:16. > :25:19.details of how they are going to fund it. I do not understand because

:25:20. > :25:22.we were not party to part two of the thing on Tuesday and I do not think

:25:23. > :25:26.that they are going to be able to fund it properly. Thank you so much

:25:27. > :25:31.for coming in and sharing your story. Thank you.

:25:32. > :25:35.We asked the zoo to respond to what Fiona might say, but so far we have

:25:36. > :25:39.not hurt -- heard back from them. If you have anything you want us

:25:40. > :25:43.to follow up, do get in touch. You can find us through our Facebook

:25:44. > :25:45.and Twitter timelines, Now, forget Wonderwoman,

:25:46. > :25:52.Batman, or Superman, there's a new superhero

:25:53. > :25:55.on the scene - Scootergran. Her real name is Barbel Roerig,

:25:56. > :26:00.a German pensioner who became famous after clips of her scooting around

:26:01. > :26:03.the streets of Perth went viral. She now uses her cult status to help

:26:04. > :26:06.inspire youngsters to get fit. I got this scooter because I had

:26:07. > :26:43.sore knees. My name is Barbel Roerig. I am 79

:26:44. > :26:50.now. I have seen on Oslo airport the staff going around with a scooter

:26:51. > :26:56.because we have two goals over the railway bridge here and I am two

:26:57. > :27:00.stories up, saw a bike was not very suitable. It was getting too heavy

:27:01. > :27:05.to carry up and down, especially with me carrying a local banks all

:27:06. > :27:12.the time. So when I saw them in Oslo, I said that is a solution

:27:13. > :27:17.because in Oslo the buses never go where I am going to go. Scootergran

:27:18. > :27:20.just uses a scooter to go around and do her shopping and to get to the

:27:21. > :27:24.post box and that is the message we are getting out there during walking

:27:25. > :27:34.month, just get out there and what if you can. -- what if you can. Keep

:27:35. > :27:42.walking and if you can't walk, use a scooter. Fantastic. Give Scootergran

:27:43. > :27:49.a big round of applause. For at least half an hour to get the bus to

:27:50. > :27:50.get to school, and now the children are getting driven to school

:27:51. > :28:06.everywhere. It is quite unusual. Most people

:28:07. > :28:10.hurried to sit around in the house not doing anything but she is fit

:28:11. > :28:22.Gran and that is really good for her. She is really good on the

:28:23. > :28:31.scooter. And she likes to scoot along. If you are fit, you actually

:28:32. > :28:34.have more chance of living longer than you should if you are just

:28:35. > :28:44.playing Xbox so it is better being fit that sitting on a game. It is

:28:45. > :28:48.great to have a role model like that that says the matter what age you

:28:49. > :28:51.are, you are still young at heart and you can still get around on your

:28:52. > :28:52.own steam. It is fantastic for the kids to see that.

:28:53. > :28:57.Glenn is off on election duties for the next few weeks

:28:58. > :28:59.so John Beattie will be here with me.

:29:00. > :29:01.Join us next week, same time, same place.

:29:02. > :29:21.Explorer Alice Morrison is taking an epic 2,000-mile trek

:29:22. > :29:24.across the Sahara, over the Atlas Mountains...

:29:25. > :29:28...and through ancient history. I love touching history.

:29:29. > :30:14.It'll be tough. He's just cut a bit of the heart.

:30:15. > :30:19.And facing fresh challenges every single day.