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:00:08. > :00:14.Should men be more open with their mental and physical health? We will

:00:15. > :00:20.be talking to Tom Urie about his weight and anxiety. And we will be

:00:21. > :00:22.speaking to an envious survivor who has come back to Glasgow to find her

:00:23. > :00:53.family. -- and abuse survivor. Welcome to Timeline. With a week to

:00:54. > :00:56.go to the general election, we will give you an alternative slant on the

:00:57. > :01:10.campaign with Elaine Malcolmson. And our dear Darwish, a television

:01:11. > :01:17.presenter making a new life in Edinburgh. It is difficult to learn

:01:18. > :01:37.the words, a vigil was held outside the opening

:01:38. > :01:41.session in Edinburgh after a series of institutions apologised after

:01:42. > :01:47.children were abused under their care. Other abuse survivors are

:01:48. > :01:53.encouraged to come forward to tell their stories. One of the survivors

:01:54. > :02:00.was Kate, who is here with us now. Thank you for coming in. You were

:02:01. > :02:10.born in Glasgow and moved away when you were seven years old. Tell us

:02:11. > :02:33.what happened. I ended up in dairy - -- Londonderry - Derry. I was pulled

:02:34. > :02:38.in the door, ... Everything was kept very quiet, I did not expect my

:02:39. > :02:46.mother and father to break up. I thought they were happy. You ended

:02:47. > :02:59.up in Nazareth House which was very notorious for what went on. What

:03:00. > :03:13.happened? We work taken to the Bath. We were put in fluid. We continued

:03:14. > :03:21.to be bathed in that and we developed skin problems because of

:03:22. > :03:26.the product. We got our haircut above our ears so we could blend in

:03:27. > :03:35.with the other children. We were orphans. I loved family life and had

:03:36. > :03:39.experienced it. I was heartbroken, craving my mother and father and

:03:40. > :03:46.having a family. And being in Scotland once more. It wasn't to be.

:03:47. > :03:54.When did the abuse start? When I was about eight. I remember going to

:03:55. > :04:02.confession. The first, vivid memory is the priest calling me by my name.

:04:03. > :04:05.In there, you work called your full title, I was Kathleen. Sometimes I

:04:06. > :04:12.would forget the answer to the name because my mother always called me

:04:13. > :04:19.Kate. It was in the confession box, the priest called me by my name. I

:04:20. > :04:28.was devastated. That's not even the correct word. I just thought God

:04:29. > :04:36.told him who I was. Then, it started to be, I was left in the last in the

:04:37. > :04:44.line. I was always put to the end of the line. Or was sent back to clean

:04:45. > :04:53.toilets, you know? So that I was always last. The none would hand me

:04:54. > :05:02.over, placed my hand into the priest's hand. My priest with gently

:05:03. > :05:05.into the place where they got changed. There were outfits

:05:06. > :05:15.belonging to him. That he could wear for different occasions. He would

:05:16. > :05:18.lock me in there. After the grooming started, he studied to grow me. He

:05:19. > :05:34.continued on. -- me. He made me sit behind the door while

:05:35. > :05:49.he was mass debating. -- masterbating. It was when I was 12.

:05:50. > :06:02.I was moved, to the outside school. I was not a first year. Got up in

:06:03. > :06:07.the morning, clean the toilets, being a first, forgetting about what

:06:08. > :06:15.happened that morning. I began to copy people who lived in family

:06:16. > :06:21.homes, copied their notes. I had suddenly -- accidentally sent a note

:06:22. > :06:27.from the none. I was asked one morning, stay back, you are not

:06:28. > :06:36.going to school today. I was walked miles away to another conference. --

:06:37. > :06:40.another convent. The secret was going to come out. You are here in

:06:41. > :06:50.Glasgow to support other survivors of abuse and encourage them to tell

:06:51. > :06:54.your story like you did in the Northern Ireland enquiry? It helped

:06:55. > :07:01.me. Anyone sitting at home, thinking, male or female, should I

:07:02. > :07:13.or shouldn't I? I was exactly the same. I saw Margaret from Savia on

:07:14. > :07:21.television. I thought, I wanted to talk to that woman. I do not know

:07:22. > :07:27.why I didn't pick up the courage. I got a lift down or stop I saw on the

:07:28. > :07:34.news she was coming to the City Hotel. I was waiting for her. I was

:07:35. > :07:40.still nervous, you know? It's two months before I talked to anyone

:07:41. > :07:45.about it. You would encourage people to do the same? The other reason you

:07:46. > :07:50.are here, it is more personal. You are trying to trace your family you

:07:51. > :07:59.lost touch with in Glasgow was years ago, how is that going? I have a

:08:00. > :08:04.happy mood because I believe I am going to meet some family. Maybe a

:08:05. > :08:09.couple of them, I don't know. I know two cousins have come forward. They

:08:10. > :08:18.have been phoning in and I am grateful to the Scottish media, you

:08:19. > :08:24.know, for... I think you were speaking to John on the radio and

:08:25. > :08:31.people called in? The papers were trying to find out if they could

:08:32. > :08:36.find me somebody, so that I had a belonging, a self- belonging, which

:08:37. > :08:41.I never had my life. I didn't know who I was supposed to be. And just

:08:42. > :08:44.closure to that. I feel as if doors have been opened and I am getting

:08:45. > :08:48.through these doors. No closing these doors behind me. Kate, we wish

:08:49. > :08:54.you well with the next chapter and the reunion with your family. Thanks

:08:55. > :09:07.very much for coming in. Thanks a million. Extraordinary. The polls

:09:08. > :09:15.suggest the win by the Conservatives party is by no means certain. Later,

:09:16. > :09:19.a comedic look at the political campaigns. But now, the campaign so

:09:20. > :09:31.far. When Ruth Davidson tops about

:09:32. > :09:36.independence in this campaign she is using it as a smoke screen. She says

:09:37. > :09:39.I talk about nothing else, the truth is, she talked so much about

:09:40. > :09:43.independence I can't get a word in Edwards. You are standing there

:09:44. > :09:53.before an election, saying, it is safe to vote SNP. If there is no

:09:54. > :09:57.manifesto for independence, there will be no referendum. This is the

:09:58. > :10:04.only thing you ever wanted in your entire political career. Two

:10:05. > :10:08.fundamentally different positions. There is one very clear position,

:10:09. > :10:15.the manifesto, people can look that up. We do not support independence,

:10:16. > :10:19.a second independence referendum. Because of the turbo-charged

:10:20. > :10:25.austerity... It was in the manifesto. It doesn't matter what

:10:26. > :10:31.the leader of the Labour Party said, it only matters what is on the

:10:32. > :10:38.manifesto? If you are so against another referendum, white the Brexit

:10:39. > :10:42.folk? We didn't know what the deal was going to be like when we came

:10:43. > :10:47.out of Europe. We voted to meet the European Union, not the destination.

:10:48. > :10:54.Something so monumental, we believe it should be put back to the British

:10:55. > :10:57.people for them to have their say. We are ensuring people will not have

:10:58. > :11:00.to sell their house during their lifetime. They will not have to

:11:01. > :11:05.worry about those monthly bills for their care and they will protect

:11:06. > :11:15.more money than they have been before. This must be the first time

:11:16. > :11:19.in modern history there are parties broken their manifesto policy before

:11:20. > :11:30.the election. Do you support renewal of Trident? It is there in the

:11:31. > :11:34.manifesto. I voted because everyone knows I wanted to go in a different

:11:35. > :11:42.direction. I respect the decision that has been taken. I think this

:11:43. > :11:47.debate shames and demeans us all. I don't think anyone watching this

:11:48. > :11:51.debate, from Cornwall to Caithness, who does not understand the positive

:11:52. > :11:54.contribution people have made to this land who have come from the

:11:55. > :12:02.rest of Europe and the rest of the world. Where is Theresa May? Take a

:12:03. > :12:04.look out of the window, she might be out there, sizing up your house to

:12:05. > :12:07.pay for your social care. As you've seen from that,

:12:08. > :12:10.politicians are raising devolved issues like health and education -

:12:11. > :12:12.so just a quick reminder that in this election

:12:13. > :12:14.a Westminster Government defence, immigration,

:12:15. > :12:20.trade and industry, Health, social care, and education

:12:21. > :12:29.are among the powers devolved to the Scottish Government,

:12:30. > :12:33.so we decided on them when we placed our votes

:12:34. > :12:42.for MSPs last year. The stiff upper lip may be a British

:12:43. > :12:47.trait, but there are concerns that men may be taking it too far when it

:12:48. > :12:50.comes to their mental The chief executive of Movember -

:12:51. > :12:54.the charity behind the craze for growing moustaches for money

:12:55. > :12:57.in November - has been in Scotland I do not have enough testosterone to

:12:58. > :13:03.do that. Timeline caught up with him

:13:04. > :13:14.at Glasgow Caledonian University. I worked in a number of Glasgow

:13:15. > :13:18.hospitals in the time I was here. My career in the widest fence was

:13:19. > :13:23.formed by my time in Glasgow. Stereotypically I've came across a

:13:24. > :13:27.lot of West Coast of Scotland men who hadn't talked about their

:13:28. > :13:31.health, had addressed the fact that they were frightened about things

:13:32. > :13:34.and I came across men who were really facing serious health issues

:13:35. > :13:40.because they hadn't addressed them earlier. Prostate cancer, testicular

:13:41. > :13:43.cancer, they both happen below the belt and men are not used to

:13:44. > :13:46.accessing health services and the last thing they want to do is access

:13:47. > :13:50.the health service and go to the doctor for the first time and have

:13:51. > :13:54.something that they perceive to be an invasive examination. Women are

:13:55. > :14:00.more used to it, they go through childbirth, they are used to

:14:01. > :14:03.accessing health services, breast screening and so on, and that

:14:04. > :14:07.doesn't happen for men. We need to break down the stigma, let guys know

:14:08. > :14:11.that a lot of things you think are going to happen and the doctors

:14:12. > :14:17.don't. Prostate cancer is much less common that you get a digital rectal

:14:18. > :14:21.examination the first time around. Normally it is a blood test. Most

:14:22. > :14:26.guys don't know that. We need guys to go. Nothing is worse than

:14:27. > :14:30.ignoring it. If you ignore it you are going to cause yourself mental

:14:31. > :14:34.problems and stress and you may be diagnosed later and therefore what

:14:35. > :14:39.you must be treated for Will be much more serious. Nearly 80% of the

:14:40. > :14:44.people who take their lives every year in the UK are men and the

:14:45. > :14:48.majority of them take their lives, they are young men. A lot of what we

:14:49. > :14:52.need to do about suicide is helping young guys to cope with the

:14:53. > :14:56.difficult moments in life much better. It's about providing coping

:14:57. > :15:02.skills and mechanisms to reach out and say that I'm not doing as well

:15:03. > :15:06.as I should be earlier on. We come as a society, for a long time have

:15:07. > :15:10.accepted that it is a fact that men will die earlier than women,

:15:11. > :15:15.currently five years earlier. There's no real reason for that. The

:15:16. > :15:20.reasons are preventable. We have quite a long history of funding

:15:21. > :15:26.biomedical research, especially into prostate cancer and there has been

:15:27. > :15:31.some great work. Scotland is a leading place in global research and

:15:32. > :15:34.it is well regarded. We have started developing community projects, for

:15:35. > :15:38.example working with some of the football clubs in Scotland and

:15:39. > :15:41.really funding programmes that are reaching out to the community about

:15:42. > :15:48.improving physical health and mental health. We have an overall principle

:15:49. > :15:53.that we take for the money we raise and actually going to wear men and

:15:54. > :15:56.boys are. We don't want to run projects and do bits of work that

:15:57. > :16:00.are in institutions, we want to go into the community and reach guys.

:16:01. > :16:03.One person who has been speaking out about their health recently

:16:04. > :16:06.He's lost nearly 17 stone following a gastric operation.

:16:07. > :16:14.His interview this week with Kaye Adams on BBC Radio Scotland

:16:15. > :16:16.about his experience of losing weight and his anxiety

:16:17. > :16:31.Oh, thanks very much. You have brought in your old jeans. Want to

:16:32. > :16:39.see them? They used to be a too tight. There we are. My goodness. I

:16:40. > :16:42.used to wear them with the button and zip undone and with a belt to

:16:43. > :16:47.hold them up because they were too small. Wow, fantastic. I think they

:16:48. > :16:53.should be put in a museum somewhere. There you go. You have gone public

:16:54. > :17:01.on the radio, this is the first time we have seen them, before and after,

:17:02. > :17:07.but what started it off was River City? Yes, we did a storyline about

:17:08. > :17:11.my character, big Bob facing up to his Demons and his eating disorder

:17:12. > :17:16.and his mental health, I suppose, and they sent him to fat camp. We

:17:17. > :17:23.have a clip from it. Let's have a look.

:17:24. > :17:35.No, I'm in the stairs. I need your help.

:17:36. > :18:10.Your fine. You just need someone to keep you company. Mum! Oh, Sun! It's

:18:11. > :18:14.all right. It's all right. I'm here. That was very powerful, quite

:18:15. > :18:21.emotional for you, watching it. No acting required in the scene. We

:18:22. > :18:24.really got into it. I was as distressed as the character because

:18:25. > :18:29.physically I was having so much trouble even contemplating walking

:18:30. > :18:34.up the staircase for a take stop even getting my line out, because I

:18:35. > :18:37.couldn't breathe properly. Luna, who plays my mother, was such a support

:18:38. > :18:43.and the producers were so supportive. That scene was very

:18:44. > :18:49.scary to play because he was getting hoped but I felt hopeless. The

:18:50. > :18:54.writer actually won a writer's Guild award because of how they handled

:18:55. > :18:59.it. There isn't a lot of sympathy for people in that situation, people

:19:00. > :19:02.with obesity problems. You don't find a lot of sympathy, especially

:19:03. > :19:10.in the media, and seeing it through Bob was McMahon and Bob's eyes, that

:19:11. > :19:15.was the first time to see the sympathetic look at a character that

:19:16. > :19:20.people laugh at. Normally there is a tuba playing in the background and

:19:21. > :19:25.it isn't taking seriously. We broke ground on River City by doing that.

:19:26. > :19:32.You've lost 17 stone. I phoned you once and said, fancy a while? I

:19:33. > :19:39.couldn't walk! I would have got to the bottom of the stairs and had to

:19:40. > :19:43.go back up -- fancy a walk. Very moving coming hearing you talk about

:19:44. > :19:50.how this is a mental health problem. Absolutely, that's part of it. A big

:19:51. > :19:54.part was mental illness, I suffer from depression and anxiety. It is

:19:55. > :19:59.under control but identified that as being the root of my eating and it

:20:00. > :20:04.was also about not wanting to participate in life. I was happy

:20:05. > :20:07.when I was going to work in River City because I was a different

:20:08. > :20:11.person and it was a world I could go to but the rest of the time I didn't

:20:12. > :20:16.want to leave the house because I had a bit of agoraphobia, the

:20:17. > :20:20.depression had taken hold and I didn't understand what depression

:20:21. > :20:26.was. Sometimes you would sit and stare into space, sometimes weeks

:20:27. > :20:32.would go by when I didn't leave the house. One of the tweets coming into

:20:33. > :20:35.the programme, you had an operation, they were playing devils advocate,

:20:36. > :20:41.they asked whether it was cheating. I don't think so. I was beyond the

:20:42. > :20:48.point where I could have closed the fridge and gone out for a walk, and

:20:49. > :20:50.that happens. I'm not saying that I'm not responsible for being in

:20:51. > :20:55.that position, I take responsibility. But the operation

:20:56. > :20:59.was like having stabilisers on a bike, getting a helping hand. I had

:21:00. > :21:04.to get into the rhythm of eating properly, I had to lose five stone

:21:05. > :21:10.before I had the operation and then I have lost another 12. I have been

:21:11. > :21:15.spurred on every stone I have lost I have gained a stone of confidence

:21:16. > :21:20.and energy. We can see it in your face! It is a joy, like getting the

:21:21. > :21:26.keys to Disneyland. I have one of these fitness watches, I am walking

:21:27. > :21:30.everywhere, it is like getting a second chance at life. If it is

:21:31. > :21:36.cheating to get a bit of surgery, it really isn't. Congratulations, we

:21:37. > :21:40.wish you well. Thanks for telling us about it.

:21:41. > :21:43.Abeer Darwish arrived in Edinburgh with her family just last year,

:21:44. > :21:47.She had just started a career as a TV presenter before

:21:48. > :21:50.Abeer spoke to Timeline about her experience

:21:51. > :21:53.of arriving in a new country, where everything is

:21:54. > :22:11.When I got here, it was very difficult to live here. Everything

:22:12. > :22:28.is different, everything. Food is different. People. My second

:22:29. > :22:40.language is Arabic. Now I am learning English. And the accent is

:22:41. > :22:49.a very strong accent. It's difficult to deal with a word like water.

:22:50. > :22:57.After I finished university and got a law degree, I left Syria. I left

:22:58. > :23:10.Syria because of the war. The fighting everywhere. And I went to

:23:11. > :23:17.Kurdistan. It's very close to Syria. By had a very good opportunity to

:23:18. > :23:22.work as a newsreader at an Arab TV channel. -- I had a very good

:23:23. > :23:35.opportunity. I was very happy. I will be famous

:23:36. > :23:50.and everybody will is Deeney. -- will see me. But I left my job to go

:23:51. > :23:54.to Scotland. And start from nothing. Can you imagine how difficult it is

:23:55. > :24:02.to start a new life, when you can't work, because you don't speak

:24:03. > :24:11.English? I was with my family in Kurdistan. So we came here together

:24:12. > :24:20.as refugees. Now we live close to each other. I miss my country, I

:24:21. > :24:31.miss my job, I miss my mum. I can't speak about my previous life in

:24:32. > :24:44.Syria because it's... It's very sad for me to speak about it. I want to

:24:45. > :24:47.say it's a very bad situation. For children, for women, for men. It's

:24:48. > :24:59.very bad. When the war finishes in my country,

:25:00. > :25:11.we will go back. Abeer Darwish from Syria adjusting

:25:12. > :25:12.to her new life in Scotland. We wish her well.

:25:13. > :25:15.Just one more week to go before we know who will

:25:16. > :25:19.Of course, it's been a snap election, so we haven't had too long

:25:20. > :25:23.But there have still been some pretty entertaining moments -

:25:24. > :25:25.we asked comedian Elaine Malcolmson to give us her thoughts

:25:26. > :25:37.You can't avoid the public unless you don't go out in public. If you

:25:38. > :25:42.want to win an election, you need to know what the public want. You only

:25:43. > :25:46.find out what they want if you ask them, but they'll throw anything at

:25:47. > :25:53.you. Immigration control, NHS funding, eggs. Why did the general

:25:54. > :26:02.public wants to meet politicians anyway? -- why do. Our taxes pay

:26:03. > :26:08.their wages, we should be able to call on them for any reason, at any

:26:09. > :26:14.time. Why should I have to pay for a yoga class to relax when I could

:26:15. > :26:20.fall to a politician for free? There are many other things in our

:26:21. > :26:25.manifesto. My bus was stuck in traffic yesterday and I missed

:26:26. > :26:32.Hollyoaks! I thought you people were about protecting British culture!

:26:33. > :26:39.Childcare and education are important but I can't get a signal

:26:40. > :26:48.when I'm on the toilet! All I hear is Rex did this, Brexit that. But

:26:49. > :26:57.Mrs May, my library only has this one copy of 50 Shades Of Grey. I

:26:58. > :27:04.understand that the NHS is under immense pressure, but, Nicola, I can

:27:05. > :27:16.hear pigeons nesting in my next-door neighbour 's chimney. I worry about

:27:17. > :27:21.social care, Tim Farron, but... Tim Farron, my bins only get emptied

:27:22. > :27:30.once a fortnight! So, how do politicians cope? Well, I've been

:27:31. > :27:33.watching very closely. If you keep smiling and laughing through the

:27:34. > :27:41.exchange, it looks like everything is completely fine and you're really

:27:42. > :27:46.enjoying the discussion. Be confident and repeat what you were

:27:47. > :27:50.told to say. Repeat after me, strong and stable, a brighter future, the

:27:51. > :27:57.many, not the few. A second referendum. We need to test

:27:58. > :28:03.politicians' readiness to meet the public. Maybe some kind of krypton

:28:04. > :28:07.factor for politicians. Before they can go walkabout they should be able

:28:08. > :28:12.to eat a bacon sandwich, falling down a zip wire while holding onto

:28:13. > :28:17.their self-respect and a baby. The important thing to deal with --

:28:18. > :28:20.remember when dealing with the public is that they decide whether

:28:21. > :28:21.you become a member of Parliament or just another member of the general

:28:22. > :28:24.public. If you have anything you think

:28:25. > :28:35.should be on the show, You can add us know what you would

:28:36. > :28:41.like us to follow up on Facebook or Twitter. Next week it is the general

:28:42. > :28:47.election, there will be no timeline but join us for the election

:28:48. > :28:50.coverage. We will be back on June the 15th. Goodbye for now.