0:00:03 > 0:00:06Tonight, we speak to the former football starlet who says he's been
0:00:06 > 0:00:11cheated of the chance of justice after his alleged abuser died.
0:00:11 > 0:00:13Plus, should politicians do reality TV, with Kezia Dugdale
0:00:13 > 0:00:17about to enter the jungle?
0:00:41 > 0:00:42Welcome to Timeline,
0:00:42 > 0:00:47and to John, who's here this week standing in for Glenn.
0:00:47 > 0:00:48Tonight we're looking at the biggest bugbears
0:00:48 > 0:00:50on a night out if you've got a disability.
0:00:50 > 0:00:54Also, would you know how to save a small child from choking?
0:00:54 > 0:00:58We speak to the heroic nine-year-old who did just that.
0:00:58 > 0:01:01Plus, the widow of Hollywood legend Gene Kelly on his location
0:01:01 > 0:01:10scouting trip to Scotland for Brigadoon.
0:01:10 > 0:01:15This was kind of his place and he arrived at Central Station and there
0:01:15 > 0:01:19was a great photograph of him as he steps out. They got a car and drove
0:01:19 > 0:01:29all around and Gene had scoped it out.People have seen me deal with
0:01:29 > 0:01:32rats and snakes in my time but the jungle will be tougher, I have a
0:01:32 > 0:01:33feeling.
0:01:33 > 0:01:36She goes into the jungle tonight - we speak to Kezia Dugdale's former
0:01:36 > 0:01:38advisor, and former I'm A Celeb star Christine Hamilton,
0:01:38 > 0:01:40about how she'll get on.
0:01:40 > 0:01:42A man, who says he was abused as a teenager
0:01:42 > 0:01:45by a former football scout, says he's devastated his alleged
0:01:45 > 0:01:48abuser will not now stand trial, after his death this week.
0:01:48 > 0:01:50Levi Stephen says he's being denied the chance of justice,
0:01:50 > 0:01:54after the death of 84 year-old former Rangers and Liverpool
0:01:54 > 0:01:56scout Harry Dunn, who was awaiting trial on historical
0:01:56 > 0:02:02child sex abuse charges.
0:02:02 > 0:02:06Levi has been speaking to Mark Daly.
0:02:06 > 0:02:12Just a warning that this report contains descriptions of sexual
0:02:12 > 0:02:20abuse.
0:02:20 > 0:02:27I wanted to play football. I just wanted to play the best I could and
0:02:27 > 0:02:34impress people.In the 1980s, Levi Stephen was one of the most
0:02:34 > 0:02:38promising young talents in Scottish football, coveted by almost every
0:02:38 > 0:02:43major team in the UK, but as he tried to make his way in the game he
0:02:43 > 0:02:50loved, he carried with him a secret. A secret he found the courage to
0:02:50 > 0:02:55tell a BBC documentary earlier this year. He says he had been sexually
0:02:55 > 0:02:59abused as a 13-year-old by a football scout.
0:02:59 > 0:03:06I opened the door and he tripped me up. I landed face first and he got
0:03:06 > 0:03:13on top of me. He was trying to take my pants down. I could feel his
0:03:13 > 0:03:21direction in the back of my leg. I fought him off.
0:03:21 > 0:03:27This had been the second alleged attack on Levi Stephen by this man,
0:03:27 > 0:03:31Harry Dunn, for decades a scout for several of Britain's biggest clubs
0:03:31 > 0:03:37including Liverpool, Chelsea and Rangers. Harry Dunn was arrested in
0:03:37 > 0:03:42March this year on charges of sexual assault, attempted rape and rape. He
0:03:42 > 0:03:45was to stand trial but was found dead at his home in Edinburgh this
0:03:45 > 0:03:49week. Levi Stephen and the other boys who say they were abused by
0:03:49 > 0:03:56Harry Dunn will never see him in court. TheI was looking forward to
0:03:56 > 0:04:01it, so it could go ahead and I could look in the eye and tell the truth.
0:04:01 > 0:04:11And watch him squirm in his seat. Had used started to visualise it?
0:04:11 > 0:04:18Yes, I... But no, I just had a lot of hate and frustration and anger
0:04:18 > 0:04:24and negative thoughts in my head. But you just have to get on with it,
0:04:24 > 0:04:26that's life. Do you feel cheated?
0:04:26 > 0:04:32Of course I was cheated, but not just me but other victims.
0:04:32 > 0:04:38Do you feel cheated? Do I feel cheated? I am just
0:04:38 > 0:04:46disappointed more than she did. I am disappointed that I can't prove it.
0:04:46 > 0:04:50-- I am disappointed more than cheated. I have been denied the
0:04:50 > 0:04:52opportunity to prove what he did to me.
0:04:52 > 0:04:56How did you feel when you heard there were other boys who had gone
0:04:56 > 0:05:04through the same as what you did? You have a guilt. Because... Because
0:05:04 > 0:05:11of the crime was not reported when it happened, obviously other boys
0:05:11 > 0:05:18were interfered with. So I had a sense of guilt there.
0:05:18 > 0:05:26The only other person Levi says he told was his mother. For years the
0:05:26 > 0:05:30two kept the story Sigrid, fearing speaking out would hurt his chances
0:05:30 > 0:05:36of a football career, -- they kept it secret, but the mother had been
0:05:36 > 0:05:39ready to testify against Harry Dunn. I felt not anger about sadness
0:05:39 > 0:05:44because I felt my son was robbed and all the other victims were robbed
0:05:44 > 0:05:52and did not get their day in court with him. I was more sad for my son.
0:05:52 > 0:05:54It is a precious thing because what he did, that could have destroyed
0:05:54 > 0:06:05me. He has taken my innocence. He has deprived me of my innocence.
0:06:05 > 0:06:11Do you feel that because he got away with it for so long, as you say, do
0:06:11 > 0:06:21you feel that he has ultimately in the end got away with it now?
0:06:21 > 0:06:27He has definitely got away with it. He knew... But you don't know how
0:06:27 > 0:06:34many years he was active for. This is one of... This is only the tip of
0:06:34 > 0:06:38the iceberg. He abused me when he was about 50 years old and it must
0:06:38 > 0:06:43have happened back then, there must be a lot of other victims. But back
0:06:43 > 0:06:50then you just put up and shut up. I think society now, people are
0:06:50 > 0:06:53starting to come forward and they are not afraid any more and they are
0:06:53 > 0:07:05not scared. You know, it was back then, don't show emotion...
0:07:05 > 0:07:11Deprived of the closure of his day in court, does Levi now regret
0:07:11 > 0:07:15speaking out? I will never regret speaking out.
0:07:15 > 0:07:22Never. Maybe a wee bit sooner. It is worth it. Yes, it would have been
0:07:22 > 0:07:29nice to have went to court and told the truth and got out of there, and
0:07:29 > 0:07:32got it in the public domain so people would know the real truth.
0:07:32 > 0:07:38But that has been taken away. But this is part of the healing process,
0:07:38 > 0:07:46isn't it? He died and things happened. What can you do? You just
0:07:46 > 0:07:53have to get on with it. The bit more positive... Maybe look for an avenue
0:07:53 > 0:08:02to help others in a similar situation.
0:08:02 > 0:08:05If you've been affected by any of the issues raised by this,
0:08:05 > 0:08:07you can call the BBC Action Line.
0:08:07 > 0:08:10The number is on your screen now - 0800 055 055.
0:08:22 > 0:08:30Mark is here now. That is raw emotion. How is Levi doing now?
0:08:30 > 0:08:33He is a tough person and then he put a brave face on things. He will take
0:08:33 > 0:08:38some days to process this, and he has tough times ahead. This is a
0:08:38 > 0:08:43thing for him which happened in three big stages... The abuse nearly
0:08:43 > 0:08:4730 years ago... How he had to process it then and the decision to
0:08:47 > 0:08:51speak out in our programme earlier this year, and then he was building
0:08:51 > 0:08:56up to this trial, and now this has happened. He would not wish, though,
0:08:56 > 0:09:01anybody to be put off coming forward, because this is the nature
0:09:01 > 0:09:04of how historical allegations are investigated. It is not necessarily
0:09:04 > 0:09:14about trying to get closure of a conviction... Levi would say it is
0:09:14 > 0:09:16just about speaking out and confronting these secrets of the
0:09:16 > 0:09:18past, coming to terms with them. And it just speaking to someone in the
0:09:18 > 0:09:23police, of course... But when it comes to an elderly alleged abuser,
0:09:23 > 0:09:27we would want anyone to come forward as soon as possible.
0:09:27 > 0:09:30Where are we with all the investigations into these
0:09:30 > 0:09:32allegations? It is about exactly a year since
0:09:32 > 0:09:38Police Scotland launched this operation. This came after a single
0:09:38 > 0:09:42allegation made by the former player from Crewe football team and he
0:09:42 > 0:09:47would word from a team he suffered at the hands of Andy Bernal, this
0:09:47 > 0:09:51trial will be next year. An update from police got in today, in terms
0:09:51 > 0:09:55of how many allegations they have had, in into day 288 crimes have
0:09:55 > 0:10:02been recorded so far, 167 reports of information were received, and 153
0:10:02 > 0:10:09victims in Scotland were identified. To date 13 have been arrested and
0:10:09 > 0:10:12charged with offences relating to child sex abuse, and some of those
0:10:12 > 0:10:18people will go on trial next year in cases that we will watch closely.
0:10:18 > 0:10:20Thank you very much indeed, Mark.
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0:10:32 > 0:10:35He was the star of Singin' In The Rain and Brigadoon,
0:10:35 > 0:10:39among many others.
0:10:39 > 0:10:42I always thought Brigadoon was real but probably not.
0:10:42 > 0:10:44Gene Kelly was one of Hollywood's biggest names.
0:10:44 > 0:10:47Now, decades on from his heydey, his widow Patricia is touring two
0:10:47 > 0:10:48special shows about his life.
0:10:48 > 0:10:50She's been here this week to talk about the time
0:10:50 > 0:10:52he came to Scotland, as he wanted Brigadoon
0:10:52 > 0:10:53to be filmed here.
0:10:53 > 0:11:03She's been speaking to Pauline McLean.
0:11:07 > 0:11:10First of all, tell me how you met your husband.
0:11:10 > 0:11:15That is one of the most often asked questions. I was a nerdy Herman
0:11:15 > 0:11:20Melville scholar and I basically spent most of my time in a library
0:11:20 > 0:11:23and I wanted to write a documentary about Herman Melville and other
0:11:23 > 0:11:28writers. The narrator ended up being somebody named Gene Kelly and I had
0:11:28 > 0:11:34no clue who he was, the director put us in the room together... My study
0:11:34 > 0:11:40in graduate school was word origins, etymology and poetry, and this kind
0:11:40 > 0:11:44of studies... We sat in this room for one week quoting poetry back and
0:11:44 > 0:11:49forth and playing word games. By the middle of that week I had been
0:11:49 > 0:11:52enchanted. By six months later he called me and ultimately he asked me
0:11:52 > 0:11:57if I would stay and write his memoir... And I went out expecting
0:11:57 > 0:12:02to go for two weeks and interview him and we ended up getting married
0:12:02 > 0:12:07five years into the process. You had a very special access, an
0:12:07 > 0:12:11insight into who he was. Did you feel they wanted to share everything
0:12:11 > 0:12:16was there are some part of it that he would say, maybe that is not for
0:12:16 > 0:12:18public consumption? The reason I created the one-woman
0:12:18 > 0:12:22show which has been touring around the world since 2012 was to give
0:12:22 > 0:12:27people an idea of the many dimensions of him. He just expands
0:12:27 > 0:12:30on their mind and they begin to understand that he created what they
0:12:30 > 0:12:35are seeing, and the role that he had behind the camera which was really
0:12:35 > 0:12:40happy which is to be remembered. I inherited his archives, and so every
0:12:40 > 0:12:45day I am opening a new box and pulling out something and it is a
0:12:45 > 0:12:49mix of emotions. You have great joy that you find something, and then it
0:12:49 > 0:12:57often hits with a powerful, you know, thing in your gut. Like
0:12:57 > 0:12:59finding a note he left around the house.
0:12:59 > 0:13:04You are still doing that now? I still do and I still have many
0:13:04 > 0:13:07boxes to go through. The image in my head at the moment
0:13:07 > 0:13:12is the one of him outside this very hotel in Glasgow in the 1950s and
0:13:12 > 0:13:16when he was going off to scout for potential locations for Brigadoon.
0:13:16 > 0:13:19Did he tell you about that, this visit to Scotland?
0:13:19 > 0:13:24He loved it and took the train, the overnight train with a producer,
0:13:24 > 0:13:30Arthur, the great producer of many MGM musicals. They got a car and
0:13:30 > 0:13:33drove around and Gene had sculpted having figured out exactly what to
0:13:33 > 0:13:43do. He was so disappointed that they had to reduce it to the stage.
0:13:43 > 0:13:49Was that down to whether and... ? MGM was beginning to tighten up on
0:13:49 > 0:13:55budgets and do something overseas like this... With the variables of
0:13:55 > 0:14:02whether... I get more mail about Brigadoon van many of Gene 's other
0:14:02 > 0:14:10movies. He found that the ballet section, the dance at Heather on the
0:14:10 > 0:14:18hell, was one of the best he ever did on film. -- Heather on the Hill.
0:14:18 > 0:14:21I think it connects very much to Scotland.
0:14:21 > 0:14:24He had his connection to Scotland and you had your own connection to
0:14:24 > 0:14:28Scotland because you came here before with your show...
0:14:28 > 0:14:30I did. Did this make sense you would end up
0:14:30 > 0:14:36back here with this show, working with this?
0:14:36 > 0:14:39It is called "Gene Kelly: A Life in Music". People think of dance when
0:14:39 > 0:14:42they think of him and I think of music, how does it relate to his
0:14:42 > 0:14:48dance? The next show, the big show with the orchestra live on stage,
0:14:48 > 0:14:52will actually take people into their creative process.
0:14:52 > 0:14:55Already we have got past that notion that we just like the films because
0:14:55 > 0:14:59they are bright and colourful and upbeat and lovely but there is
0:14:59 > 0:15:02something beyond that, isn't there are? There is a man there on the
0:15:02 > 0:15:08screen who has become a movie star, and or movie person...
0:15:08 > 0:15:13He described himself as tough but tender a man of great integrity who
0:15:13 > 0:15:15represents something positive about America.
0:15:15 > 0:15:19Nevermore needed then at the moment as well.
0:15:19 > 0:15:26I was pitching my show on the day after the election last year, and I
0:15:26 > 0:15:29just felt demoralised, and everybody surrounded me and they were all from
0:15:29 > 0:15:34different countries, and they said, no, this is exactly the time and he
0:15:34 > 0:15:36represents the best of who we are.
0:15:36 > 0:15:38Patricia Kelly there, who's at the Glasgow Royal
0:15:38 > 0:15:39Concert Hall tonight.
0:15:39 > 0:15:41And that show, "Gene Kelly: A Life in Music",
0:15:41 > 0:15:46is at the same venue in April.
0:15:46 > 0:15:48Would you know what to do if a child was choking?
0:15:48 > 0:15:51There's a drive in Scotland this week to get more
0:15:51 > 0:15:54people up to scratch, as part of First Aid Week.
0:15:54 > 0:15:56Here now are some heroes and experts - Jackie Nelson
0:15:56 > 0:15:59and her daughter Skye, who was just eight when she
0:15:59 > 0:16:01rescued her baby sister, and Stuart Callison,
0:16:01 > 0:16:06who is from St Andrew's First Aid.
0:16:06 > 0:16:13Thank you so much. Skye, we know you are nervous. Take us back to the
0:16:13 > 0:16:19day, what happened?My little sister was choking on a piece of chocolate.
0:16:19 > 0:16:26And what did you do?I started patting her back. And it's dislodged
0:16:26 > 0:16:33the chocolate.Were you scared? You must have been?I wasn't scared.How
0:16:33 > 0:16:41did you know what to do?I watch 24 hours in A & E.It stood you in good
0:16:41 > 0:16:47stead!And inside ambulance, all those kinds of programmes, she's
0:16:47 > 0:16:53quite keen.It is such a great story. And you must be hugely
0:16:53 > 0:16:57emotional because one child save the other child's life.It is quite an
0:16:57 > 0:17:00emotional thing. But I think as time has gone on, have learned to cope
0:17:00 > 0:17:08with the emotions!Were you there when it happened?I was upstairs.So
0:17:08 > 0:17:14you heard the screams?I heard Skye saying her sister was choking, but
0:17:14 > 0:17:19then she realised that her lips are turning blue and realise she was
0:17:19 > 0:17:23choking. And they raced downstairs to get hurt and by the time I took
0:17:23 > 0:17:29off Skye, that was when she was sick.Wow. And you knew just by
0:17:29 > 0:17:33watching on telly?Yes.Fantastic. You did a great thing.
0:17:33 > 0:17:41Well done. She did really well, Stuart? Was that textbook?It's
0:17:41 > 0:17:44extraordinary that she had the presence of mind to go to the aid of
0:17:44 > 0:17:48her sister. And unfortunately, not every story and so happily. Around
0:17:48 > 0:17:54one scot per week on average chokes to death. On average, from the NHS
0:17:54 > 0:17:59statistics.Is that because people don't know what to do?In many
0:17:59 > 0:18:07cases.In many cases. At the NHS is encouraging people to have a go as
0:18:07 > 0:18:10Skye dead and inform themselves what to do so they can stay calm and know
0:18:10 > 0:18:17what to do in an emergency.Just tell everyone, then. Skye saved a
0:18:17 > 0:18:21life but the rules are what? If there is a small public choking,
0:18:21 > 0:18:26what did you do?The basic... The degree of force you would apply
0:18:26 > 0:18:32would vary depending on whether it's a baby, a toddler or a grown adult.
0:18:32 > 0:18:37First of, the two ways you can choke somebody may be coughing, you would
0:18:37 > 0:18:40encourage them to cough in case they can just cough it up, or their
0:18:40 > 0:18:43weight may be blocked completely in which case they will not be able to
0:18:43 > 0:18:47make any noise at all. -- there is we may be blocked. The best person
0:18:47 > 0:18:53to do would be to get that person to lean over slightly, do what Skye did
0:18:53 > 0:18:56come off backed loans between someone's shoulders and hopefully
0:18:56 > 0:19:02that will remove the obstruction. If that does not work, stand behind
0:19:02 > 0:19:06them, form assist, and around, but a centimetre above the belly button,
0:19:06 > 0:19:14pull hard and operate. Hard and upwards. And that would generally be
0:19:14 > 0:19:18the obstruction. If it doesn't come off ambulance immediately but keep
0:19:18 > 0:19:22trying. And if someone should lose consciousness, immediately start
0:19:22 > 0:19:27CPR. But the key thing is not to be afraid. A lot of people may be just
0:19:27 > 0:19:30think they can wait for the ambulance, but you need to be
0:19:30 > 0:19:34quicker than that. Don't be afraid, you cannot do harm, do something
0:19:34 > 0:19:41rather than nothing.And uni that already, Skye.Yes.You knew
0:19:41 > 0:19:44deriving. You are nervous about coming to Iraq, but not about saving
0:19:44 > 0:19:47a life. You knew what to do. Congratulations. We are proud of
0:19:47 > 0:19:55you. Thank you for coming. That is a great story.
0:19:55 > 0:19:58Nights out can be great fun, but often have the potential to go
0:19:58 > 0:20:00wrong - and that's especially true if you've a disability.
0:20:00 > 0:20:02Robyn Sneddon knows that only too well.
0:20:02 > 0:20:05She missed out on a place in Liam Gallacher's new music video
0:20:05 > 0:20:07after the Glasgow venue it was being filmed in didn't
0:20:07 > 0:20:08have wheelchair access.
0:20:08 > 0:20:10She's made this film for us about her biggest bugbears
0:20:10 > 0:20:20when she's out on the town.
0:20:25 > 0:20:30Believes it or not, disabled people love going out just as much as
0:20:30 > 0:20:34anyone else. But sometimes it can be a bit tricky. Here are if you have
0:20:34 > 0:20:42the issues I face going out all the time. -- Askew of the issues. Now,
0:20:42 > 0:20:47this is actually a lovely pub with good disabled access. But let's
0:20:47 > 0:20:52pretend for a minute that it's not. Hi, there, I was wondering if you
0:20:52 > 0:20:58could tell me where the disabled access is into the building?You
0:20:58 > 0:21:09could maybe try... It's one thing boasting about how
0:21:09 > 0:21:12accessible it places for wheelchairs. It's another thing
0:21:12 > 0:21:21actually passing that information to your staff.
0:21:21 > 0:21:29There you go.Hi, how are you? Will be girl in the wheelchair be OK
0:21:29 > 0:21:33through the back?That's fine.Some people think if you're in a
0:21:33 > 0:21:36wheelchair you can't talk for yourself or sub it's as if my
0:21:36 > 0:21:38friends are my keepers. And it doesn't help that I'm done here.
0:21:38 > 0:21:48Hello?
0:21:49 > 0:21:55I'm going to nip to the toilet. Who doesn't love a couple of drinks on a
0:21:55 > 0:21:58night out? Eventually, though, like any other
0:21:58 > 0:22:03human, I'm going to need to use the ladies. Seriously? It's great that
0:22:03 > 0:22:07you got a pilot I can actually use, some places don't even offer that.
0:22:07 > 0:22:10But it doesn't help when it is filled with junk. If you can't let
0:22:10 > 0:22:17me spend a penny, I want spent my money. -- if you can't spend a
0:22:17 > 0:22:24penny, I will not spend my money. What's that? In our's wait for an
0:22:24 > 0:22:29accessible taxi? You got to be joking me. -- an hour. It's not easy
0:22:29 > 0:22:34for anyone to get home after a night out, but how do I feel without is
0:22:34 > 0:22:37waiting for a taxi that can take my wheels are being stranded and
0:22:37 > 0:22:41forgotten about at the train station. It is not easy. Keep that
0:22:41 > 0:22:44in mind next time you're out and about and see someone like me. But
0:22:44 > 0:22:49no matter what happens, you can never go wrong with a bag of chips.
0:22:49 > 0:22:51Well, Robyn was able to be light-hearted about some
0:22:51 > 0:22:54of her bugbears as a wheelchair user, but she's highlighted problems
0:22:54 > 0:22:55facing lots of disabled people.
0:22:55 > 0:22:58If you're one of them, tweet us your own bugbears @bbctimeline.
0:22:58 > 0:23:04Now to one of my favourite programmes.
0:23:04 > 0:23:11Is it? I'm A Celebrity? Absalom, I love it.
0:23:11 > 0:23:13and it's just got more interesting with the arrival
0:23:13 > 0:23:14of Kezia Dugdale in the jungle.
0:23:14 > 0:23:18Let's look at the first glimpse of her on the show last night -
0:23:18 > 0:23:22and a preview of what's in store tonight.
0:23:22 > 0:23:25People have definitely seen me deal with rattlesnakes in my time, but I
0:23:25 > 0:23:29have a feeling the jungle will be a lot tougher.
0:23:29 > 0:23:32The next few days, I will fly just related a part in I'm a Celebrity...
0:23:32 > 0:23:36Get Me Out of Here. I think is an amazing opportunity to talk to the
0:23:36 > 0:23:43people who watch this programme did about politics. We got to do
0:23:43 > 0:23:50horrendous tasks, do beasties. Wish me luck!
0:23:50 > 0:23:53So how will she fare as a reality TV star -
0:23:53 > 0:23:55and should she be there as a serving politician?
0:23:55 > 0:23:57Let's speak to Kezia's former advisor, Alan Roden,
0:23:57 > 0:23:59and former I'm A Celeb campmate, Christine Hamilton, who finished
0:23:59 > 0:24:05third in the original series of the show.
0:24:05 > 0:24:10Christine, should she be there as an elected politician?I don't think
0:24:10 > 0:24:14she should. She is correct that it will be an amazing experience, but
0:24:14 > 0:24:18for her, whether she is really going to get much chance to talk politics
0:24:18 > 0:24:22that will be broadcast, it's not necessarily what they are aiming to
0:24:22 > 0:24:26do. I don't think she should. And out of her own mouth, she doesn't
0:24:26 > 0:24:30really think she should. Only last year, she called for an end to
0:24:30 > 0:24:34second jobs with MSPs and she said she wanted to have a new kind of
0:24:34 > 0:24:38politics. She once told Nicola Sturgeon, I'm sure you know this
0:24:38 > 0:24:44better than I do, to get on with the day job. So she has criticised other
0:24:44 > 0:24:47politicians running outside interests. And it isn't just two
0:24:47 > 0:24:51weeks in the jungle. You will be away for a month. Once she goes in,
0:24:51 > 0:24:55whether she's in there now, she will have no contact with the outside
0:24:55 > 0:24:58world, absolutely nothing. I just don't think that that is what people
0:24:58 > 0:25:03are like the percentages for. -- elect their representatives for. If
0:25:03 > 0:25:08you are a note elected representative in any form, whether
0:25:08 > 0:25:12it's Scotland Westminster Wales, you have a duty to be there while your
0:25:12 > 0:25:16institution is sitting at have strong reasons not to.She shouldn't
0:25:16 > 0:25:21be there, she should be getting on with her day job, Alan?It's not a
0:25:21 > 0:25:24second job, it's three weeks away from work to appear on a TV show.
0:25:24 > 0:25:27She can talk to millions of viewers every night in a way you could never
0:25:27 > 0:25:32reach from home.She's being paid for it.She is and an eight part of
0:25:32 > 0:25:37that fee to charity. There is so much doom and gloom about politics
0:25:37 > 0:25:40and I think people need to lighten up. If a politician wants to go and
0:25:40 > 0:25:45spent three weeks in the jungle to entertain people, I think great.Do
0:25:45 > 0:25:49you think producers are going to keep in all the stuff she says about
0:25:49 > 0:25:53Labour values?Maybe not in the show on ITV between nine and ten, but
0:25:53 > 0:25:59there are other platforms, spin off shows, opportunities after that. In
0:25:59 > 0:26:03print or broadcast. She will get the opportunity to raise her profile and
0:26:03 > 0:26:07let's see some politicians as human beings for the first time in a long
0:26:07 > 0:26:13time.Christine you're shaking your head?On several levels. First of
0:26:13 > 0:26:18all, politicians tend to do not well in the jungles. 19 Tories came 11th.
0:26:18 > 0:26:34They tend to be at first. -- but there's also this business of
0:26:34 > 0:26:38donating to charity. As I understand it, these to be a close in her
0:26:38 > 0:26:42register of members of interest that at all outside earnings will be
0:26:42 > 0:26:45deleted charity, that has now mysteriously gone and she is saying
0:26:45 > 0:26:49she would donate her Parliament salary, the equivalent of what you
0:26:49 > 0:26:54get for the three or Watt weeks she is aware, that is a fraction of the
0:26:54 > 0:26:58vast amount of money she would have been offered for ITV.Allen, can you
0:26:58 > 0:27:09clarify what she's giving away? So much is giving away £2500 to the
0:27:09 > 0:27:14RockTrust, which looks after, Jim people. She would later fee to
0:27:14 > 0:27:17charity as well when she returns, we cannot reveal what that is at the
0:27:17 > 0:27:23stage. And since she has been an MSP, she had needed £20,000 to
0:27:23 > 0:27:31charity. And that was changed for tax reasons in June long before she
0:27:31 > 0:27:38was on the show.I have never stood for election for anything, I not an
0:27:38 > 0:27:41elected politician. I was on the show in 2002 when was nobody. And
0:27:41 > 0:27:47it's not the same as Ed Balls going on strictly or an Widdecombe,
0:27:47 > 0:27:52because they were no longer elected politicians. So it's different. And
0:27:52 > 0:27:56it's equally not the same as, I understand Ruth Davidson has done
0:27:56 > 0:27:59celebrity bake off, was that one day or something? And she wasn't
0:27:59 > 0:28:04completely out of contact. And I just think it is completely wrong.
0:28:04 > 0:28:06It is a privilege to serve your constituents and I think that should
0:28:06 > 0:28:13be your prime focus when your institution or assembly Parliament
0:28:13 > 0:28:17is sitting. I think it is wrong. Alan, how do you think she's going
0:28:17 > 0:28:21to do? She's afraid of spiders and birds?It doesn't look like she's
0:28:21 > 0:28:24doing great in tonight 's task from the preview, but I think she will
0:28:24 > 0:28:31get stuck in. She is scared spiders and birds but I think she will get
0:28:31 > 0:28:39stuck in. She is a great curries, so if you get the opportunity she will
0:28:39 > 0:28:42make some friends there.Thank you very much indeed. We have run out of
0:28:42 > 0:28:46time, sorry. Contentious issue!
0:28:46 > 0:28:48That's your Timeline for this week.
0:28:48 > 0:28:54Thanks for watching.